Have the NASCAR Charter Negotiations Hit A Point Of No Return? | Dale Jr. Download - Ask Jr
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- During the Ask Jr. segment of the episode, listeners wrote in questions regarding:
- The status of Dale’s Denny Hamlin bracket
- Ryan McGee’s recent article about the NASCAR charter negotiations
- Dale’s favorite NASCAR Race Hub memories
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Has anybody noticed that you never see any memorabilia anymore? You never see any t-shirts, car flags, license plate holders, window stickers, hats, jackets or anything else. They used to be all over the place but rarely do you see anybody wearing anything. Walmart used to have a dedicated section. Diecast cars used to fill the toy section. Now, you see nothing.
NHRA has their own channel and it’s AWESOME! They play stuff from as far back as the ‘50s. I can’t get enough of it.
My understanding is that it’s about percentages, 10% for NASCAR, 45% for the Tracks and 45% for the teams. If the TV deal is worth a Billion, they spit a billion, if the get just a million, they spit a million. If the next TV deal sucks for NASCAR, is sucks for everyone, not just the France family. But it does mean if the deal is a big win, then its big money for everyone, not just the France family. I think that is what Denny means when he says, “Charters cost nothing”, If the TV deal collapses so does the value of the charters, but it won’t cost the France family anything additional.
It's a big loss for the track owners they are the ones having to give up 20% , the France family is still going to get their 10.
@@ServantofYaHi777 Agreed, but that is tied to the teams going from 25% to 45%, not the charters being permanent.
Doesn't NASCAR own over 50% of the tracks that they race on?
@@codymoe4986 Probably so
@ServantofYaHi777 do you even know who actually owns most of the tracks now. If you did you wouldn't be saying that the track owners are loosing money since nascar is the major owner of most of the tracks. So basically nascar is not just getting 10%. In all reality it's getting 55% and the teams are the ones who are getting screwed not nascar or track owners
Hate that I missed it LIVE, awesome stuff and agree with DaleJr , Y'all have a great week ❣️🥰
Forget a NASCAR Chanel bring back speed network
@rydog7920 I agree 100%. SpeedChannel was the best!
I thought I was the only one who misses SPEED!
Such a great channel!
Yes it was. Better than pickleball and bowling
Here, here!
People need to wake up to the truth that Dale JR is a very savvy business man. He knows a lot, a lot more than most folks give him credit for. When he doesn't know he isn't afraid to look for someone who has a better understanding than he has.
People need to listen very carefully listen to the words he says, how he says what he says, and yes the cadence of his speech.
I wonder how much he reaches into his own pocket, easy to fund and conduct business with others money?
@@hooville9059 That's what all these Godhardt simps are forgetting. He wanted controlling equity in DEI for free, and that's all he's whining about now. He wants the Cup team without having to pay for it. Listen to that pathetic houseboat episode where he's crying poor and his 40 IQ fans are commiserating like he's one of them.
Ryan McGee should join Dirty Mo Media! He’s an excellent story teller and knowledgeable. Ryan could take the co-host spot that Mike had. Then you don’t have to share 😂
Been a NASCAR fan (attended Races at Bristol, Michigan, Martinsville , others) for 60 years…….. the smell of the cars, the excitement as "they come to the Green flag" …..the semi-haulers, merchandise haulers…the whole deal….BUT within 5 years it will all go away…. The France Family will eventually dig in their heels…..the owners will not back down, the drivers will leave NASCA$…..(to form their own series) "The Pro-Cup Racing League"….. it will all blow up. Very sad….but the good part ? True fans will go back to their local tracks……"there, they will discover true racers, in true races" It’s been real
JUST WANT IT TO GO BACK ON REGULAR NETWORK TV FOX OR NBC. why are there less fans??.... cause paying 200 dollar cable bills just to watch USA or Fox Sports is INSANE. Nascar needs to get there sh## together and demand races be broadcast on FREE TV channels. Until then, as far as I'm concerned the sh## is going to continue to be a dying sport. ❤nascar
You are absolutely correct
We stopped watching TV over an antenna at my house in 1981. We dropped Cable TV in 2016 and I didn't bother to put up an antenna. If it isn't available over a streaming service I am subscribed to or UA-cam I don't watch it.
All I have is antenna I am not paying to watch racing I'll go to the track and see it in person
Yup
I have an antenna and sling tv and prime, if u order anything from Amazon I probaly have prime already 60.00 a month not that bad
I have been asking for YEARS why isn’t there a NASCAR tv Channel. That is great news that’s where the money is having your own channel. Big Bill probably would have already had all one. If he where alive in today’s world be promoting the hell out of NASCAR
I think the charters will probably be like your license plates you got to get it you have to get them renewed every now and then
I hope and pray NASCAR can prosper, love the sport
Thank you for the video.
A Nascar Channel would be awesome
When are you going to have Bill Elliott on
Jr, eat some breakfast - it is early. Thanks for the upload yall! 🔥🙏
6:49 I'm with you junior that was the best time of the sports history when Bill France, senior and junior ren the industry! ❤
Good job on darkening the window. The camera iris behaved better today.
I’d buy a nascar subscription just like F1TV Pro…it’s great to have data and all the in car cameras.
I understand nascar saying "we dont know what will happen after the next tv deal" for why they are worried about permanent charters, but it's a risk it's taking regardless. No one knows the future but dang it grilled cheese is $11.99 at a restaurant, they need to start forking up the cash. It's simply put, an outdated system of control & the teams have many many smart people that can really help & inspire positive growth in the sport we all love.
I just think it would make the racing better. Permanent charters mean less focus on keeping the doors open, and instead BETTER PERFORMANCE ON TRACK FOCUS!
What's the little box on the table flashing scores and weather? Pretty cool!
NASCAR ought to keep doing Radioactive and releasing it on their social media
Once the percentage is agreed on from media deals the charters should be permanent. If the media deals fall apart annd their is no money from media, then the team does not recieve those funds but still own the charter. It should be based on a percentage of revenue, from all streams including TV.
Dale Jr for NASCAR dictatorship!
How many of the older drivers are still with us.
I like watching the episode s with them.
I love watching and listening to the races on the radio, the Winston cup races back in the day. Now a days, I don't know all these youngsters keep getting younger and younger. They act like toddlers when something happens to them on track. You don't see a lot of the veteran drivers whine anymore not to many fist fights back in the day, not like with the new generation of drivers there seems to be fights every week.
I think a lot of us have been asking for a NASCAR channel or another Motorsports channel such as Speed. If a race has to be moved or a network doesn’t want the race on their main channel, it could go to that Motorsports channel. If a race gets rain delayed or runs long, it could finish up on that channel. I would love to just see a NASCAR TV channel or streaming service and have stuff there.
Imagine if motortrend stepped up.
It sucks having to Google "Where to watch nascar race today?" 😢
Better than the 90s when google didn't exist
It's not really that hard, plus it's displayed on the NASCAR app every week
Nascar has a website and an app
back in the late 80's and 90's you had to look it up in a TV guide and it was like 6 different networks covering and hardly ever on the same one for 2 weeks in a row. Back then though, the product was worth the search.
If I had the money to buy a cup car, I wouldn't even worry about a charter. It's gotten to be much more uncommon to have a full field with go-or-go-home cars so I'd just start there and work my way up. I'd rather not have "guaranteed cars" anyways. Either be fast enough to make the race, or don't race.
And if Nascar does create its own channel, I REALLY freakin hope it's much more like SPEED than MavTV
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS NOW WORKING FOR NASCAR!!
HE WAS A DRIVER IN NASCAR. THAT'S WORKING FOR THEM.
What is the brand name of the ticker tape box behind you?
Junior Nation..
Cable / network tv is dying a slow death. Premium content will continue to migrate to streaming as thats where the $$$$ are. There will come a day when NASCAR and other professional sports will be subscription based streaming services only.
Saying there's no garuntee on TV deals for Nascar is true for literally every sport. France family wants to have their cake & eat it.
There's really only 2 left that I can think of from the France family Jim France and Ben Kennedy whose mother is a France!
Why are the race tracks only half full at best. Do you believe that NASCAR’s glory days are gone?
In general the glory days are gone. Not just NASCAR, but all sports / sports entertainment. I all about the $$$ now. How much can be siphoned out of the pockets of the fans.
Have you watched an NBA game or NFL game from the 90s vs nowadays? those sports have lost more of their aura then Nascar but enough kids grow up playing those sports because they are cheap while racing isnt. Sports entertainment as a whole was killed when the market crashed in 08. Its ALL about making money now not the sport and the NFL and NBA make money, thats why they seem to be doing fine but i mean watch the games and listen to how the athletes talk, its pretty pathetic. Also you gotta remember soccer is the most popular sport on the planet, and lets be real that is a rubbish sport.
A lot of that has to do with how accessible it is to watch now vs. pre-internet. If you have a phone or tablet, you can watch the race anywhere. Ticket prices havent exactly gone down either, so it makes financial sense for people to watch at home, or on the go, instead of spending literally thousands to attend a single race
Damn i totally forgot about my bracket let me go check …….few minutes later……YEP mines busted too
Idk about a first round bye, but what if the bracket winner gets 5 playoff points, like a bonus race win
There will always be somebody who wants to broadcast NASCAR Cup Series. Now, the dollars may not keep growing at the same rate, but there will be suitors for NASCAR broadcast rights. So, acting as if they 'just don't know' is a false narrative in regards to the future. What's going to hurt them in the long run, is pricing out teams for the charters.
the charters should not be permanent. they restrict access and entry to the sport
They can just set a percentage for payouts instead of a set amount. Problem solved. 20% is 20% no matter how much comes in.
Everything I have read says it is percentages
My thought is permanent charters are a no brainer. NASCAR says we don't know if we can always have the TV money to support them. Hot take: If the TV money goes away, the sport goes away. It wouldn't have near the exposure, so sponsorships no longer make sense and you have eliminated the two primary sources of money to keep racing. It feels to me like NASCAR afraid of losing their fiefdom. I appreciate your loyalty to the sport; it obviously has been a great benefit to you and your family going back a good ways, but you now have team owners who are saying I'm not sinking anymore cash into this deal without some comfort that it will be a good investment. You yourself, a giant in the sport have said, "I'm not spending that kind of money for a charter." If Dale Earnhardt Jr can't see his way past it, who can?
cool Kings Hawaiian hat Dale
hamlin is lying when he says "permanent charters cost nothing". they have value in the present and long term
What about the part of the show about the CARS Tour race at Langley? The rough driving was over the top.
Bring back a channel like Speed with a show like Wind Tunnel to recap the weekend races. I miss Dave Despain.
I’m uninterested in nearly everything on mainstream TV anymore, so give me the option to buy NASCAR content only, such as what MotortrendTV used to be, or what FLO Racing is.
Greed is causing networks to eliminate cost, same reason why they want announcer’s to stay in charlotte and work remote!
Yes that's for sure
Finally watch me TV and grit
Dale are you going to buy a charter and have cup cars?
no
He explained it last week.
I don’t understand Dale Jr’s point here. Wouldn’t NASCAR just be committing to share a certain % of the revenue with the permanent charters? Why is that a risk for NASCAR? If in10 years, the revenue is down 30%, then the teams cut will also be down 30%.
Will there be another show on TV??? I think shows like that are going to live here on UA-cam or streaming on a website. Cable TV is dying! I just don't tune into shows at a certain time on TV anymore... Sorry
Charters could be permanent by themselves, without any longterm gurantees on payouts.
There won't be any cable channels left by 2030. They are all dying from cord-cutting. The problem for NASCAR is that streaming services have been so unprofitable they will consolidate soon.
Sunscreen!!😂
wre i come to see what up in the seris.... #8 thaank ya
This is exactly the way all sports leagues operate (from tv contract to tv contract). But they negotiate in good faith with permanent team owners without obligation if there is no TV deal. Thats a silly argument.
NASCAR and the never permanent charters is only about NASCAR's control of EVERYTHING.
This will cost them in the long run.
What Denny is saying is making the charters permanent cost nascar no money whatsoever. The deal with the money is a percentage that can be negotiated for life. The charter should be given to teams and the money is separate
8:46 Move forward on what?! Good looks and charm? The NASCAR team-owner business model does NOT work anymore since big tobacco sponsorship dried up. Haulers don't run on goodwill and payroll needs to be made so everyone can eat. NASCAR is going to whither on the vine if the France family doesn't stop being so greedy!
Owners that, in recent years, that have come into the sport, keep comparing NASCAR to the NBA and the NFL.
Because NASCAR is putting on the impression that they are trying to be like other sports, which through the 90's and early 00's they prided themselves for being NOT like the other sports, which was actually a big part of the appeal as a fan.
I hope that the negotiations have "reached the point of no return". NASCAR needs to stand firm and throw the charter system on the heap of terrible decisions. While they're at it, throw stage racing, the next gen car and their championship format on the heap too.
Agreed, stop trying to be like the other sports, and bring back the formula that made NASCAR so great to watch!
Hi
I can’t pay $500 for tickets to watch a race where 60% of laps are run under cation HEY NASCAR STOP COUNTING CAUTION LAPS
Corporations gone cuckoo bout to go belly up
NASCAR has the leverage so the car owners can whine and cry but they need to accept NASCAR's terms eventually
Nascar is locking in all the future value for themselves. At this point charters are like owning a small piece of Nascar that holds a portion of the value of Nascar as a whole. Nascar has shown those charters are worthless because Nascar will take them back at any time they want to ensure they get the profits they want. In NFL, NBA, and MLB the team owners actually own something of great value like their teams and their arenas in most cases... Nascar own every bit of the league including most tracks. They dictate everything. Owners with their teams and drivers should take this opportunity to see who the France family is and look at starting their own Racing league owned by Teams like in other sports. Taking away power from the France family is the only way to get the negotiating power to even out.
France family been there done that. they don't give up leverage because they own the chess board and they lease the chess pieces
Dale, I can't believe how you speak out of both sides, its not 1970 and rulled as a dictatorship in todays world! The foolish part of NASCARs position of future income that none of us can assure. The Teams seek a higher percentage to exist for profitability as NASCAR wants and they also double dip, the pie size determines monetary amount not the percentage. The charter value is based on the series success, not NASCAR having to pay teams for not racing or a smaller pie size, 45 of X = $. How would you feel after supporting and growing a sport for 30 years having to sell all for pennies on the dollar? Would you consider that a good investment, ask Junior Johnson and countless others?
I think next year at the Daytona 500 We install a loop t loop and a ring of Fire on the front straight then have a guy in a lawn chair with a water cannon shoot water on the track at random!!
Gimmick like the bracket challenge, the stupid yellows around stages and the dumb Playoffs system need to go out with the France family and there stupid stupid ideals that make the sport look like a gimmick
Someone buy Dale a bottle of sunscreen.
Build a car and go race it........
Put the races back on regular TV (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) or continue to lose even more fans!! Its really that simple!
If they get the chance to argue for permanent charters down the road, what's the difference? It'll be the exact same excuse from nascar at that point
Ben Kennedy will most likely be CEO and chairman at that point and not Jim
@@johnhaas2523 I think the main problem is that Steve Phelps is the moderator, that's what I read from the AP anyway
Carrying water for the France family. Disappointing.
Dale there’s a thing I’ve heard of called U-Tube that does a bit of this. Charters are worthless long term, electric cars will sink all motorsports. No sounds, no smells, I’m out
Please do away with charters.... Jordan bitching about them needing to be permanent,who cares the guy supposedly knows basketball but couldn't run a basketball team so who cares what he thinks about a race team 😂😂😂😂
It won’t be long before the charters are so artificially expensive that the only new teams we’ll see will be Saudi owned.
But if tv revenue gos down then how much teams get could go down and if tv revenues go up then teams could get more money so I agree with Denny that making the charters permanent does not cost NASCAR anything so NASCAR should make a deal with the teams that stats if revenue goes down then they get less money and more money if revenue goes up and make the charters permanent and if they don’t I could see a split coming
Charters will never be the lucrative business plan that NFL franchises are because, NASCAR won't allow it to happen. Charters will be hobbies for billionaires and not a profit geared business. NASCARs fan base has dwindled and sponsorship is scarce because their return on investment isnt there. NASCAR won't share their wealth like the NFL does to keep each team competitive.
I'd trade a Kyle Larson win for a Chase Elliot win.
I think Nascar is against the sport ending up like F1. I truly hope that’s not what we end up with.
TV deals will be a thing of.history in 10 years.
"media rights" deal is the more descriptive term
No way I would watch a NASCAR channel. I love local racing, not NASCAR.
Whoever does your chapters needs to be fired ASAP. How hard could it be, to just get that one job right
They are always wrong lol
Fans didn't leave NASCAR , NASCAR left the fans
The whole model is stupid. If NASCAR folded today and went tits up, the teams would play hell getting compensated for the worthless charter. At least their equipment and crap car has some value to someone else. The charter system is a joke as much as the NASCAR cadre .
NASCAR is dying. The whole charter system is just one of NASCAR's hands strangling it.
No not enough interest in NASCAR anyway more, look at the stands
Lots of people in stands.
You are 💯 correct jeffrey ..besides thats just ridiculous that nascar stick its nose in all that content. There so stupid they cant even run the racing anymore let alone the media
@@marklittle8805 not at Bristol, some others those stands used to be packed
@@jeffreymerhar4127 Bristol spring still had like 70k. They are in a facility with 150k of seats. Which they sell all of come the night race
@@marklittle8805 Sonoma was half empty.
Nascar is boring , the only thing I enjoy is the wrecks, love that, now all the car bodies are all the same except for the wraps & motors , there’s way too many rules. I don’t watch too much anymore , like I said before , BORING
been a bit since you watched? Next gen cars have bodies closer to the actual car than we've had in a couple of decades...
I’ve seen the new gen cars they are all pretty much the same, if nascar wants to make it right, hav the cars meet exactly the same dimensions & sizes of the factory , off the assembly line. & the engines has to be sold in the dealerships as turnkey crate engines
I just hope it gets so bad that Hendrick leaves to create an INDYCAR team with Larson lol
The France family shouldn’t be able to have a charter either. This is total nonsense imo.
😂😂😂😂
The problem I see with NASCAR is that the teams do not own it. The teams should be the owners similar to the NFL.
NFL teams usually own their stadiums. NASCAR owns half of the tracks (and chooses the schedule)
Ole Dale. Making excuses and taking up for the Frances and NASCAR right on Q. If I were Cup team owners, I would tell Dale to stfu. Never give him a interview. View him a enemy. He is a part of the NASCAR France family.