How to Break Out of Encirclements - Panzergrenadier on the Eastern Front
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2017
- This video looks at official German Panzergrenadier instruction from 1944 on how to break out of an Encirclement and also on the views by Oskar Munzel a Panzer General and Post-War Commander of a Panzer Training School.
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Ausbildungsvorschrift für die Panzertruppe - Führung und Kampf der Panzergrenadiere - Heft 1 - Das Panzergrenadier-Battaillon (gp.) - H.Dv. 298/3a (5. 8. 1944)
Munzel, Oskar: Die deutschen gepanzerten Truppen bis 1945
Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg - Band 8 - Die Ostfront - Der Krieg im Kosten und an den Nebenfronten
English Version: Germany and the Second World War: Volume VIII: The Eastern Front 1943-1944: The War in the East and on the Neighbouring Fronts
Klatt, Paul: BAKALOWO - Ausbruch au seiner Einschließung - Ukraine 1944; in: Truppendienst - Gefechtsbeispiele aus dem Zweiten Weltkrieg, S. 207-2014
Lexikon der Wehrmacht: Munzel, Oskar
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6:00 That's some great colorized footage.The colors look amazing.
I don't think it's genuine. Do you see the guy with the black T-shirt in the background?
It isn´t, it´s staged, you can see one of the germans laughing, fake.
I think he editet it out now? It's just a black screen for me
Samuel_bo It was a joke,if you didn't notice the picture is supposed to be a night attack and you know that's the only thing you can see at night.
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In his memoirs, Hans von Ahlfen desribed an interesting variation of this during the Battle for Silesia: The moving Cauldron. Basically, a Panzer Division and remnants from other units were encircled and already too far behind the friendly lines (which were also busy defending against the thrust across the Vistula), so they moved their cauldron at night through side roads etc. and actually made it back to friendly lines somehow.
The Great War, I love your channel. Your videos could easily be twice as long
I love UA-cam's little community of military historians so much 💙
yeh its harder to corrupt And proganadize it. remember that its the victor who tells what happened
Get outta here with that stupid quote
The Great War Indy it's good to see you over here. Yall do great work, and yalls videos have captured the interest of my 14 year old daughter. She wants to be (to me personally the bravest, and craziest job of all) The Combat Medic.
Please will yall do anything there is about females doing that job?
Keep fighting the good fight you two.
You went all out on that footage at 6:00 must have taken you hours to find it
You dont get the joke dont you?
What made it especially tricky was it was in a dark room guarded by a black cat during a power outage.
I died with the "German, such a lovely languaje" and the wonderful pic at 6:00. Really good work
Red Schmidt, German is THE language of love
Actually, it's a video on 6:00
Joel Walmsley *language of anschluss
HANS, WHERE ARE YOU?
Yes, if you consider commands, declarations of superiority, and animal grunts as LOVE. Then, yes, you are right
Very handy tutorial, thanks! But now I have a new problem...how do I take Moscow?
Malsy Pright You dont
drive a truck towards it
By night
Adamast by night is not the solution for every tactical problem
You should ask Polish people - they seem to be the only ones who managed to pull it off.
6:00 Where are our sources for this clip? It looks so exciting! ;)
its pitch black becaause its night time
wow
I dont think people are getting the joke at 6:00...
What joke?
So many comments on this, I think a good majority do...
Can’t say MHV isn’t up on his memes
I guess this even works on two levels first as a joke and secondary as critique of coloring WW1/2 source material in popular TV documentaries
I have a weird urge to annex the Sudetenland now
I'll be ready.
Free the Sudetenland you mean? and Danzig to,
Danzig for Slovakia? No? Ok
Peace in our time!
The germans need to get things in order inside Germany before they can try to retake lost land.
Soviets lost so many due to encirclements in the beginning of operation Barbossa. Hundreds of thousands of men pocketed near Minsk, Kiev etc.
...and now we know why Germans ultimately lost. Barbossa had only *almost* caught captain Jack Stalin.
Adolf Hitler Greatest Leader
In a war of atrittion yes. Then ressources (human and other) are essential.
Note that e.g. through "Blitzkrieg" tactics or technological superiority even larger unprepared opponents can be defeated.
well compare the german population to that of the allies
I think we came pretty far with our tactics
Solzhenitsyn suggests that the Soviet troops let themselves be encircled so they could surrender themselves, many troops came from Siberian concentration camps and weren't too keen to fight for Stalin.
Yeah same happend when the germans forced the communists to fight when the soviets approached berlin
Note that the communists and social democrats where to first people hitler put in concentration camps
so they werent keen to fight for him
Some great footage you found there!
As can be expected from this channel, a very good presentation. I know nothing of the “author” in regard to whether or not he is a professional historian, but his videos are always professionally done.
I applaud your skill. I've learned many things watching your videos. The fact that you usually get me to laugh at least once, while teaching seemingly dry material, is a testament to your skill.
Dear Native English Speakers Who Want to Learn History,
Please note that the presenter speaks English to explain material that is originally ALL IN GERMAN. That he can read the primary sources' language while providing simultaneous English translations is an open window into the past: good service, or even a *gift*. Be grateful for the verisimilitude. :-)
[Hint: Pause the video if you can't read English as fast as he reads German.]
It only sounds like he's reading the German fast. German is like that.
Great job with that colourised footage, found it very interesting, where did you find it?
I dont usually comment but I just wanted to say: Usually I press like in the end of the video when I feel that I have learned something/just enjoyed the subject. But now I just had to pause your video and give a like because I found it hilarious when showcasing the panzers moving in the dark. Hope you will make your videos more funny in certain parts in the future!
god damit you got me with the footage
Well Done, this explains a lot. We would practice break outs when I was in Germany in the late 70's in the event we were ran over by 5000 T62's...
If you could get into more detail as to less well-known encirclements of German forces such as at Demyansk, Korsun or Kamenets-Podolsky, that would be amazing!
5:10 I would translate this rather as: "It was a matter of honor", as the Germans didn't insist on rescuing their wounded comrades because they felt it'd give them honour, but rather because they feared that leaving their wounded comrades to be captured and/or killed would bring them dishonour... along with a serious blow to morale of course.
"Colorized Footage"
Any color you want, so long as it's black.
Lumpytusk paint it black! (Song starts to play)
Fukkup in the English translation 5:10. "...even if the latter could not be used for ammunition..." needs a "lack of" inserted.
Great visuals of the night break through. Truely compelling.
Keep reading the german text! I for one enjoy hearing it!
And thanks for the heads up on how to break out out of an encirclement, it will come in handy when surrounded by the in-laws... ;)
Ooooh, the humor! I have never belly-laughed so much at an academic military history presentation before. You really got me with this one. Great job! :-D
Still the best of the best! No other channel can touch your videos in quality
Those panzergrenadiers aren’t going to catch me slipping now! Thanks bro!!
I like the new style of these videos, very nice!
your sense of humor in these videos is developing nicely
The humor in this video is great!
All those good jokes! Keep up the good work! I will try to spread the word about your channel so that more people can watch your videos!
This one has a really good balance between information and entertainment. Some of the later videos were a bit heavy on the numbers.
Whoa! I've done a lot of WWII research, but never have I seen such a remarkable piece of archival footage as the night attack! Thank you for bringing that to us! Can I used that in an upcoming presentation I have? ;)
3:06 "Energetic leader" that is a very interesting simbol for energetic you have there.
Great video
This is probably the last real experience with large modern armies being encircled we have.
frozen at chosin? dien bien phu? khe san? just wake from a 75 year coma or something?
The first gulf war was a classic encirclement.
1974 Egyptian army encircled
Damn, this guy just got schooled.
310 👍 out of encerclement 1 👎 someone still in encerclement
You have the best humor.
Much of this also applies to Normandy. Especially the part about the order to hold the position.
Instructions we're unclear. Got forces stuck in Russian Winter. :D
Interesting... On that way you should make a video about the Soviet 3rd cavalry corps (AKA "Dovator group") breaking out of the encirclement of Vyazma in october 1941. It's today considered a breaking point of the battle for Moscow, as that cavalry group was able to fight again some days later as part of the 16th Army under general Rokossovski (the guy who executed Operation Uranus in Stalingrad), having its corps commander (general Dovator) killed in action during the battle of Volokolamsk Highway (part of the battle for Moscow).
One sidenote: In 1941 the Soviet cavalry was actually semi-motorised, and included tank battalions attached at a divisional level and tank brigades attached at a corps level (a cavalry corps included 2 cavalry divisions and could also include 1 or 2 tank brigades), so its situation was similar as the one described in the video.
I love your videos!!! :)
There is no way out
Nein, Erich
humor is clearly breaking through with this one.
very unGerman?
Jeff Keith when he said he wanted more humour in his ww2 videos, they all laughed. well... they are not laughing anymore!
wow, you must have had lots of fun doing this video! :-)
I tend to listen to videos while doing something else. So although I enjoyed once I sat down and read your content, I can't listen to this video as I do most on youtube.
Just watched this yesterday - now I can't sleep! Every time I close my eyes all I can see is the vivid color footage of a German night attack on a Soviet position. AAAAHHHH here come the Panzers!!!
Thanks strange Austrian guy! I'm sure I'll find this handy in sticky situations.
5:59 , man that was a really dark night !
6:49 "every reigh mark.. ammm... dollar helps" - short moment of awkward silance - Savage! xD
I love your content!!!!!! ♡♡♡♡♡
Goddamn "mechanized infantry" could mean a very different thing in the near future.
where did you find that awesome colorized night assault footage? lol, gotta love your channel
I recall reading about the German's abilities to recover from encirclements, learned on the Eastern front, were a nasty surprise to the allies on the Western front.
While on the subject of breakouts, it would be interesting with video about the breakout from Küstrin in the spring of 1945.
Thanks. I will use this information in my cardboard wargames (EFS series from GMT)
I am under the impression that the manual mentioned was written from the Tcherkassy-Korsun experience ... breakthrough even against higher orders, relief operation, get all the worthiest elements for the breakthrough ready for a night attack with as little noise as possible (ie close combat) (source : Jean Lopez study)
I wonder however how effective these actions were. Germans managed to get a sizeable force out of Korsun, but the relief force (several Panzerdivisions) knew horrific losses, and the relieved soldiers were so shocked they were sent back for retraining. Has anyone any source of the outcomes of other encirclements ? For instance the Falaise pocket ?
I don't get the footage at 6:00
I think the Tiger having the desert camouflage is a mistake from the people who colorized it
Bacon Gamer805 probably didn't have time to paint it before they got themselves surrounded. It's that Sherman that is throwing me for a loop...
How does this doctrine apply to other situations? I got the idea from the video that this was intended for small scale operations where the vast majority of troops are mechanized, but what about larger scale encirclements, or when the encircled force is foot infantry?
Very interresting video, i love ur accent, remind me my grandfather ..Greetings from France :).
FANTASTIC! Glad to see German speakers have a sense of humour
lol I was looking at the "footage" of the German night advance like "why can't I see anything is my brightness too low?" And I got the joke and I was like dang I'm stupid and started laughing
Greetings from the future. I find it exceptionally amusing that this video would resurface today. I'm not going to name any names but there's a certain group of soldiers that I bet had access to this video right about now.
Please make a Patton way of war like you did for General Mattis
Interesting. My gut feeling would've told me to take on one of my surrounding foes/concentrations on my way through, on the karateka understanding that two foes in pursuit are a lot better than three of them; not to mention the knot of chaos caused by making the other enemy groups move through the remnants of the one I broke through. I can see the error in my idea, however; deploying to attack allows the other enemy elements to gather on my flanks and rear before I finish off one or another. Glad I don't have to make choices like that with the fates on my men riding on my shoulders.
Danke.
Reichsmark uhm Dollar's.....😂😂😂😂😂
My one question is, when they are deciding where to breakout, don't they only have a 270 degree max window through which they can chose from? Would they chose a breakout point thats in the direction of where the enemy came from, like would the Germans have chosen an eastern location in Stalingrad to breakout of?
Thank yoi
I have a question, in actual battle, Panzergrenadiers will fan out and fight along side tanks, combat vehicle or stay behind the tanks lik in most of movies?
So during night its best time to break out of encirclment but what if they are waiting for us and ambush us then what to do? Does it applies in mordern warfare?
6:00 I had to re-watch it 2 times but now I get the joke hahaha
Hi there. How about the troops who used motorcycles, is he a panzer grenadier? Tnx
How common was successful breaking out of encirclements? I got the idea from the video that it was fairly common ("not problematic" for mobile force). What would have been the typical size/scale of an encirclement?
Tripticket it requires highly motivated troops and commanders who react within a day or two of the encirclement. If not then a relieving force is required to attack from the outside as well. In WW2 North Africa the terrain made encirclement harder but most got out by leaving their heavy weapons behind.
Ich habe eine Frage an den Autor dieser Präsentation: Woher hast du dieses enorme Hintergrundwissen zu dem Thema WK2? Machst du beruflich etwas mit Geschichte oder Militär oder hast du dich selbst aus Interesse eingearbeitet? Würde mich einfach mal interessieren weil ich selbst bin Laie aber lese auch sehr viel zu den Hintergründen und Einzelheiten des Weltkrieg.
lesen, weitere infos siehe faq militaryhistoryvisualized.com/faq/
Danke für die Info
Looks really good, but I can't help but be underwhelmed considering that large parts of Army Group Center were encircled and forced to capitulate during Operation Bagration. Am I being overly harsh? Or maybe it worked better when the formations involved were smaller than divisions?
Do you cover the battle of the Falaise pocket from the German perspective? Was it a limited success (under the circumstances), or a disaster?
Hey MHV can you please do a topic about all german aces of ww2. Wittmann, Hans-Ulrich Strudel etc etc.. Thanks
hey man, could you do some more videos for the pacific conflict? particularly the imperial japanese high command before, during and after the war. i find your videos very useful for my studies.
the Energetic Leader with demon red eyes ... epic.
Thank you for your great videos. Do you have any videos that addresses why the Luftwaffe wasn't able to destroy the British Navy in the English channel thereby allowing Hitler to invade Britain? WWII saw the rise and dominance of the aircraft carrier. Why didn't mainland Europe essentially act as an unsinkable aircraft carrier for the Luftwaffe which could have bombed the British Navy out of the English Channel?
"It neither human is nor deer, it is a Panzergrenadier." Or how was that German saying going?
Es ist kein Mensch, es ist kein Tier, es ist ein Panzergrenadier. It is no human, it is no animal, it is a Panzergrenadier. It rhymes in german.
The Korpsgruppe "von Tettau" breakout around five times and always get in a pocket again, in February-April 1945. Seems like really bad luck XD
"Colorized footage of night breakout attack" I needed that laugh
"Notice how closely the infantry is following the panzers" I really needed that laugh!
2:06 Hans, wo is dem Flammenwerfer?
You had a lot of fun doing this one, didn't you ;D
Serious question regarding the dark nights: Wouldnt the enemy fire star shells regularly, at the latest as soon as the first Soviet soldier hears tracks moving?
well, yes, but at where, also they give away your position and in the worst case, light you up but not the enemy.
Not to mention, you need them etc.
So, it really depends.
Is his book translated in English? Having already read Infantrie Greif An, Panzer Leader (Guderian), Achtung! Panzer, and Panzer Commander (Von Luck), I would love to read another bio on the German Panzer divisions (my favorite topic...go Tigers!! lol).
Very funny. Well done. It sucks to be Nachhut
"Every Reichsmark [...] helps" I would love to send in a few RM if you are interested, my bank doesn't support RM tough, so it'd have to be in an old-school envelope
How do you make the outstanding videos
lovely indeed 1:03
There's an easy answer to "What is a Panzergrenadier" - "Halb Mensch, halb Tier - ein Panzergrenadier!"
6:01 I don't see anything. was there a picture?
Hube's mobile pocket was a classic
+MilitaryHistoryVisualized What was the impact of the harsh treatment from the Soviets on the German surrendering? I meant empirically. How much less time might it have taken if the Germans surrendered more often?
Your sense of humor, sehr subtil.
Did the American attempt to breakout of Bastogne? My grandfather never indicated they tried. Reason? Thanks
The Americans in Bastogne were put there to hold the town against the German advance. Breaking out of the town would have defeated the purpose of being there in the first place. They held the town until the rest of their army was able to push the Germans back.
I hope you get more ad revenue from the 3 min. LG commercial I have to sit through, than the 30 second Volvo commercial.
6:00, GJ lol
6:00. We have a comedian here!
I'm sure you've received other feedback on this but I'd like to say it nonetheless.
When you have a dark background, don't use black font. Haven't you ever been taught how to make a PowerPoint?