This was awesome! I just spent half an hour trying to get an idea of how this accent sounded and these two minutes helped more than any of it! Great video!!
Dude, you're so useful, thank you very much, I'm linguist myself, I speak like 4 used to speak 6, I'm into languages and accents so bad. Still can't believe Mark helped to discover your channel, i mean that could be anyone but him😁 please keep it up
Awesome - I've never been a languages dude but I love me some accents. Plan is to get a little video like this out every Wednesday, next two weeks are queued up already :)
I'm geniunely surprised how well that works. As someone from outside the UK, I find the Welsh accent to be one of the harder ones to imitate, but trying your light L suggestion on the phrase "Can I have some milk" gets pretty good results. I still a lot to learn on how the Welsh enunciate words, but this was a good start.
I have a Welsh trainer and it’s hard to try to replicate his accent but the one thing that stands out how soft the whole language is compared to the English accents. Not as flowy as Irish but no crazy vowels like Scottish. The soft L is very much a staple but I find the entire language to be very soft…
I just want to say if you are using this video is 2023+ it has changed a bit with the rise of the internet and older people talk like this but you get people like in their 20 and below have a mix of this welshy accent and American accent and only really use slang so the accent can get lost a bit but it’s still a great video ❤
I'm Welsh and I didn't even realise no one else did this, before you showed that we use the light L for everything I was thinking "eh? my tongue doesn't go that far back"
I've badly imitated Rhys Ifans before without realizing that I was doing this tongue position thing as well as some other tonal shifts, but doggone it if you aren't right! Dark L shall be my Sith name! Which I guess makes Welsh Jedi by contrast.
Hi Pranav - that's great. You're right - I should put some information on the site about when it'll start. I don't currently have a due date on it at the moment. It's going to take a lot of work to film it, and build the tools that go alongside it. I also work full-time leading a small team of web devs. But I'll get it out.
I went off and did web development for 2 years. I'm still doing it, but I miss teaching accents - so I'm hoping I can combine the two and make some cool accent apps ❤️ Thanks for asking!
@@starchamberproductions3903 they do sound like it, literally tons of actual welsh people agreeing in the comments. I guess maybe you didn't learn the accent like a normal person?
hi Matt im trying to learning the RP accent I'm starting with the vowels. and I also listen to bbc radio 4. saw ur rp vid btw. do u have any idea how I can improve I want to speak it as fast as possible pls reply if you have time
Matt Pocock I’m originally from South Africa but I lived with my aunt since I was a kid in Dubai so I speak Arabic like a native. So Arabic is the only language I know beside English however I live in the uk now
@@mohao7402 Vowels sounds like the right place to start. Especially with placement of short vowels, like /ɪ/ and /ʊ/. Also with fricative endings of words. Hard to know without hearing your voice.
I disagree. I’m Welsh and I’ve been considering the placement in my mouth for these words and this sound and he is right. It’s the influence of the Welsh language I think. Very interesting video.
@@Knappa22 It may describe the way you say it. I don't know. That does not alter the fact it is nonsense to describe this as common to Welsh a cents. (I'm Welsh too, and have been considering the way I say things, and more importantly the way other Welsh people say things for too many years to be healthy.) Uninteresting because facile and incorrect. (In my opinion, of course.)
@@starchamberproductions3903 There will always be nuances in accents, and Welsh people (like anyone in a particular geographical area) will always be acutely aware of differences in accents within that area but *in general* this 'l' does sound like the way a great many Welsh people say it. Similarly most Welsh people will have a lilt in their accent, a kind of rhythm derived from Welsh, which is accented on the penultimate syllable. Not sure why you find it facile. How do you suppose accents and dialects are taught to actors? They need these basic general guides, which they can then explore further and refine if they need to play a character from a particular region / country.
@@Knappa22 Because this is not a good generalisation. I'm not sure why you think.it is. The Welsh accent, like all accents, has many different variations over regions and people. Generalisations can be made, but this is not a good generalisation. It is facile as it does not produce the accent. I'm a Welsh speaker, from a Welsh speaking area, and this does not produce the accent of other Welsh speakers (or monolingual English speakers) in my or many other areas. Incidentally, the penultimate syllable rhythm is not taken into English by Welsh people, whether they speak Welsh or not - a strong difference between stressed and unstressed is, along with stressing of important words, and sometimes fronting them in sentences. It is this which provides the distinctive lilt. But that's not addressed in this video.
@@starchamberproductions3903 I disagree. It would be facile if this were a paper delivered to a room of phonology students studying the extreme nuances of accents, but it's not, it's a brief general intro, and in that context it does the job. I also disagree that it does not produce the accent of Welsh speakers and English speakers. I am a Welsh speaker too and from a Welsh speaking area (mother born west glam / Carms border, father from south Ceredigion) and I think it's pretty accurate. So we have a moot point there from the point of view that you have not one jot more authority than I do in deeming what is accurate or not, and vice versa. Your incidental point is also wrong imo, the lilt doesn't come from stressing important words but from the rhythm and stress in each individual word, which definitely derives from the cadences of the Welsh language.
As an American who has never set foot in the UK, I really love this video. I had no idea what a Welsh accent sounded like before this.
This was awesome! I just spent half an hour trying to get an idea of how this accent sounded and these two minutes helped more than any of it! Great video!!
Dude, you're so useful, thank you very much, I'm linguist myself, I speak like 4 used to speak 6, I'm into languages and accents so bad. Still can't believe Mark helped to discover your channel, i mean that could be anyone but him😁 please keep it up
Awesome - I've never been a languages dude but I love me some accents. Plan is to get a little video like this out every Wednesday, next two weeks are queued up already :)
@@MattPocock nice, can't wait already, cheers!
He returns! And with more tips than before! Hell yeah!
Woo the king of accents is back! Keep making videos please :)
That's the plan ;)
Yay, nice. Ever thought about a german accent tutorial? Cheers
viel danke
You're an excellent teacher Matt. Thank you x
He's back!!
I'm geniunely surprised how well that works. As someone from outside the UK, I find the Welsh accent to be one of the harder ones to imitate, but trying your light L suggestion on the phrase "Can I have some milk" gets pretty good results. I still a lot to learn on how the Welsh enunciate words, but this was a good start.
I have a Welsh trainer and it’s hard to try to replicate his accent but the one thing that stands out how soft the whole language is compared to the English accents. Not as flowy as Irish but no crazy vowels like Scottish. The soft L is very much a staple but I find the entire language to be very soft…
Hello, you are finally back! Could you please do a tutorial in a German or Italian accent please!
I just want to say if you are using this video is 2023+ it has changed a bit with the rise of the internet and older people talk like this but you get people like in their 20 and below have a mix of this welshy accent and American accent and only really use slang so the accent can get lost a bit but it’s still a great video ❤
welcome back matt
Hearing Stacey on Gavin & Stacey tv show say Year has me boggled as a 🇨🇦
Woohoo! Best accent site on the web, bar none.
I'm Welsh and I didn't even realise no one else did this, before you showed that we use the light L for everything I was thinking "eh? my tongue doesn't go that far back"
thank you mr. pocock
This is a great video! I thought the diagrams were super helpful along with the sound being made at the same time!
i’m welsh and i found this so hard😂
😂 same here lol 😂
I thought there was no "Dark L" in Welsh
(In Irish, the L is always clear)
I've badly imitated Rhys Ifans before without realizing that I was doing this tongue position thing as well as some other tonal shifts, but doggone it if you aren't right! Dark L shall be my Sith name! Which I guess makes Welsh Jedi by contrast.
Return of the King
That paper you’re sitting on, are you reading it?
Whose coat is that jacket?
Whose shoes are those trainers?
Came hear to learn how to proper read Will Herondale's lines aloud, and ended up confused
So helpful
Mr.Matt, I've signed up for your videocourse.But,when will it commence?
Hi Pranav - that's great. You're right - I should put some information on the site about when it'll start. I don't currently have a due date on it at the moment. It's going to take a lot of work to film it, and build the tools that go alongside it. I also work full-time leading a small team of web devs. But I'll get it out.
@@MattPocock I know you'll do a great job, sir.
Just waiting for it since years!
Best accentbin the world
i guess the elfs in lotr spoke some kind of welsh ahaha
Me learning how to do this accent so then I can disguise myself as different people 💅💅💅
I'm sorry I'm high right now but 'the dark l' is fucking killing me 😂 forbidden linguistics show me the Dark L
I'm Welsh and I have no clue why I'm here aha 🏴
is this about north wales or south wales
As far as I can tell, it's about neither.
I think it’s about both.
Even in Welsh speaking you can discern a more dental sound to t d and l in north Wales Welsh.
00:13
I gotta practice, because I keep feeling like I'm going to accidently choke on my own tongue.
Sound quality is too quiet mate
The light L reminds me of German speak
For heaven’s sake Americans have both types of Ls .
Is that not exactly what he said in the video?
Why’d you leave??
I went off and did web development for 2 years. I'm still doing it, but I miss teaching accents - so I'm hoping I can combine the two and make some cool accent apps ❤️ Thanks for asking!
Matt Pocock no problem! I’m just glad that you’re doing what you love!
I will just say, as a Canadian dialect coach, North Americans do NOT use a Dark L for all of our sounds. Far from it.
And Welsh people don't sound like this video. So it seems absolute nonsense from start to finish.
@@starchamberproductions3903 they do sound like it, literally tons of actual welsh people agreeing in the comments. I guess maybe you didn't learn the accent like a normal person?
I can't hearing from you what did you say
Man’s forehead 😂😂
hi Matt im trying to learning the RP accent I'm starting with the vowels. and I also listen to bbc radio 4. saw ur rp vid btw. do u have any idea how I can improve I want to speak it as fast as possible pls reply if you have time
Hi Jaden, what's your native accent? Is English your first language?
Matt Pocock no English is my second language but I’d say I’m decent
And what's your native language/accent?
Matt Pocock I’m originally from South Africa but I lived with my aunt since I was a kid in Dubai so I speak Arabic like a native. So Arabic is the only language I know beside English however I live in the uk now
@@mohao7402 Vowels sounds like the right place to start. Especially with placement of short vowels, like /ɪ/ and /ʊ/. Also with fricative endings of words. Hard to know without hearing your voice.
Unus Annus gang?
were you there for the end?
@@theeyeiswatching8036 yes
@@sebsta8894 makes me happy, I set an alarm for those final moments. shame about all the 'fans' that cant help but re-upload everything.
UNUS ANNUS UNUS ANNUS
@@mencshighlights3390 hahaha
🏴🏴
I have dark l by default and I'm finnish
Pretty much like the Spanish L sound.
Exactly, and also similar to the Irish L
bruh
This is absolute nonsense.
I disagree. I’m Welsh and I’ve been considering the placement in my mouth for these words and this sound and he is right.
It’s the influence of the Welsh language I think.
Very interesting video.
@@Knappa22 It may describe the way you say it. I don't know. That does not alter the fact it is nonsense to describe this as common to Welsh a cents. (I'm Welsh too, and have been considering the way I say things, and more importantly the way other Welsh people say things for too many years to be healthy.) Uninteresting because facile and incorrect. (In my opinion, of course.)
@@starchamberproductions3903 There will always be nuances in accents, and Welsh people (like anyone in a particular geographical area) will always be acutely aware of differences in accents within that area but *in general* this 'l' does sound like the way a great many Welsh people say it.
Similarly most Welsh people will have a lilt in their accent, a kind of rhythm derived from Welsh, which is accented on the penultimate syllable.
Not sure why you find it facile. How do you suppose accents and dialects are taught to actors? They need these basic general guides, which they can then explore further and refine if they need to play a character from a particular region / country.
@@Knappa22 Because this is not a good generalisation. I'm not sure why you think.it is. The Welsh accent, like all accents, has many different variations over regions and people. Generalisations can be made, but this is not a good generalisation. It is facile as it does not produce the accent. I'm a Welsh speaker, from a Welsh speaking area, and this does not produce the accent of other Welsh speakers (or monolingual English speakers) in my or many other areas. Incidentally, the penultimate syllable rhythm is not taken into English by Welsh people, whether they speak Welsh or not - a strong difference between stressed and unstressed is, along with stressing of important words, and sometimes fronting them in sentences. It is this which provides the distinctive lilt. But that's not addressed in this video.
@@starchamberproductions3903 I disagree. It would be facile if this were a paper delivered to a room of phonology students studying the extreme nuances of accents, but it's not, it's a brief general intro, and in that context it does the job.
I also disagree that it does not produce the accent of Welsh speakers and English speakers. I am a Welsh speaker too and from a Welsh speaking area (mother born west glam / Carms border, father from south Ceredigion) and I think it's pretty accurate. So we have a moot point there from the point of view that you have not one jot more authority than I do in deeming what is accurate or not, and vice versa.
Your incidental point is also wrong imo, the lilt doesn't come from stressing important words but from the rhythm and stress in each individual word, which definitely derives from the cadences of the Welsh language.