Seymour Duncan Antiquity Humbuckers Vs. Seth Lovers SH-55

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2017
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    I have been wanting to do a video like this one for a long time. Two of the most popular Duncan PAF sets back to back with a few similar licks.
    Everything on the amp, recording equipment and software stays exactly the same. I kept the height and pole pieces of the pickups even to the best of my ability. I tried to eliminate all variables other than the pickups themselves. I hope you enjoy this video and it is useful for you.
    Cheers!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 236

  • @funkyjones
    @funkyjones Рік тому +12

    CLEAN
    antiquity neck : 0:16
    antiquity middle : 0:24
    antiquity bridge : 0:32
    seth lover neck : 0:42
    seth lover middle : 0:48
    seth lover bridge : 0:53
    CRUNCH LEAD
    antiquity bridge 1:04
    antiquity neck : 1:15
    seth lover bridge : 1:26
    seth lover neck : 1:43
    CRUNCH RHYTHM
    antiquity bridge : 2:01
    antiquity neck : 2:14
    seth lover bridge : 2:30
    seth lover neck : 2:51

  • @lathspell87
    @lathspell87 3 роки тому +22

    My Antiquities in my LP are never coming out. They are the best sounding humbuckers I have ever played through. I actually didn't like humbucker equipped guitars until I threw a set in my LP. Now it's one of my favorite guitars to play. Just love the overtones, "woodiness", and articulation I get with those pickups.

    • @megalodon8473
      @megalodon8473 3 роки тому +3

      I just threw a set of antiquities in my Les Paul too, and they're never coming out either, exactly the tone I was going for, and the tone I had in my head when I was searching for "that sound". Good call - the articulation and response are second to none. One of my smartest purchases!

  • @acegibson9533
    @acegibson9533 4 роки тому +6

    Both of them are excellent, boils down to personal taste, can't go wrong with either one of them.

  • @jackp.walker6247
    @jackp.walker6247 6 років тому +1

    GREAT, GREAT DEMO !
    Thank you very much.
    Your video made me realize (again) that i got the right pick up set (Seth Lover) to go into my PRS SE Santana !
    Cannot wait to hear the transformation from stock thin sounding stock SE units to the the Seth Lovers.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words my friend. That’s what it is all about! Feel free to subscribe if you haven’t already.

    • @roncarter2188
      @roncarter2188 5 років тому

      I got a PRS SE and I was really surprised how much I disliked the pickups, I still have the original neck pup in mine but it will be replaced soon.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      I don’t know what the SE guitars come with but I hope you find a great set to fit your axe! Hope you subscribe and check out the many i have showcased!

  • @ericcurry7309
    @ericcurry7309 6 років тому +6

    Great show of comparison! I gotta go with the Antiquities myself. They just sounded "fuller" to me in the headphones. There's that heavier riffs I was mentioning. Again, great show of difference. 😎🤘

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      Thanks for hanging out!

  • @trahnettilhcs
    @trahnettilhcs 6 років тому +8

    What an outstanding demo. Thanks for putting in the time to do this, it helped me and will help others on a similar tone quest. I think I liked the SL better? But I’m more confident every day that I really want a P90 neck to pair with whatever bridge pup I choose. Thanks again!

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +2

      Thanks for chiming in and the kind words! Hope you enjoy the other videos as well!

  • @musicspeaks1074
    @musicspeaks1074 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you,Great Comparison demo.Both sounds wonderful.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching my friend!

  • @lousekoya1803
    @lousekoya1803 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for this great video !!........You got me hooked on the Seth !

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      I love some seth lovers! Hope you subscribe!

  • @williamkyle6275
    @williamkyle6275 5 років тому +28

    Bottom line is, you can't go wrong with either one however, the Ants sounded more chimney and sensitive.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +4

      You’re right! And even if one could go wrong, they’d probably change their mind in less than a year anyway! 😀🍻

  • @81ghale
    @81ghale 5 років тому +6

    Man that's a tough one. I really dig both sets. I have Pearly Gates set in my LP Traditional and they're awesome too. I get bored and like trying different pickups for no reason other than just trying different things so I'm considering other sets, but everytime I pick up my LP I start having doubts about swapping lol. It's the only guitar I have that I've left alone after the first change. I really didn't like the stock Burstbuckers at all. Great video, gonna check out your others.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Hey man, thanks for chiming in! Hope you enjoy all the pickup vids and subscribe. Lots of great options out there. I love some PGs. The best part about pickups is that they can go back in just as easy as they come out! 😉 cheers brother!

  • @PicksPaints
    @PicksPaints 4 роки тому

    Cool video of these 2 pickups man! I dig stuff like this. It's eye-opening. 😉

  • @MisterTee
    @MisterTee 4 роки тому +10

    The antiquities remind me of my days living in Stockholm while the seths remind me of my younger days in Gothenburg.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому +3

      Haha every set is a winner!

  • @classicrocker889
    @classicrocker889 2 роки тому +2

    I am looking to replace my Lead pickup in 81 LP Custom and I really like how these SD Antiquity Pickups sound.

  • @michael.davides
    @michael.davides 2 роки тому

    Great review. Also, you have great taste in gear.

  • @JonathanFerretCampos
    @JonathanFerretCampos 6 місяців тому +1

    Love the Seth Lovers neck in my tele but in a Les Paul I would definitely go with the Antiquities.

  • @smollande
    @smollande 3 місяці тому

    The Antìquities are ny fiirst set of unpotted pickups and they sound really different. There is a clicking 'pick attack' sound that took getting used to but its cool vintage sounding after I got used to it. But what I dont understand is how when i pick at a certain angle on the D and B strings especially higher up the neck, I get this 'quacky' stratty effect, almost as if im pinching a harmonic but not quite cos the clicking blends in with that tone and together it all sounds quacky. Am I hearing things?😅

  • @CustomTele52RI
    @CustomTele52RI 4 роки тому

    Listening through a Dragonfly USB DAC and Sennheiser HD600 headphones makes this an easy call. Glad I sprung the extra $35 for the Antiquity - my 52RI Telecaster will benefit from the warmer, richer, more complex tone more in line with that fantastic powerful Tele bridge tone. FWIW I like the Fender CS Nocaster or Seymour's Jerry Donahue for the bridge. A lot of folks like the Broadcaster Tele bridge PU, too.

  • @CBGypsy03
    @CBGypsy03 Рік тому

    What is your favorite humbucker ?? I rock a set of 59s and a set seth lovers. Great video

  • @astraplaneta4656
    @astraplaneta4656 5 років тому +1

    Man you've done some fantastic video's! after playing all those boutique PAF's whats your opinion of the Seth Lovers? Thinking about getting them as my first set of PAF's

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Hi there! Sorry for the late reply. The Seth’s were my first set as well. I think they are an absolutely fine choice of you are just starting to dip your feet in the PAF world. Think about pairing them with some 50s wiring too (if its a gibson) Since you gotta open it up anyway! :) cheers and hope you subscribe!

    • @jaycee30865
      @jaycee30865 4 роки тому

      Visual Guy did you use reverse audio taper in the volume pots? Crucial. Linear at worst. 50s wiring is best thing ever. :)

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому +1

      I use RS guitarworks superpots. Custom taper.

  • @j.staley7425
    @j.staley7425 6 років тому +9

    Seth lovers for me! Thanks

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      Right on! Thanks for tuning in!

  • @pgong
    @pgong 6 років тому +16

    Nice comparison and thanks for putting in the work. I have both sets. My Seths are 20 years old now! I do prefer the Antiquities though because they are more articulate with a more complex harmonic content.
    One thing a video does not convey is how they respond to touch. The Ants have a sharper, faster attack followed by a bloomy compressed envelope whereas the Seths' attack is more velvety and warmer, yet more powerful, perhaps due to the stronger magnets, with a less compressed decay.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      +pgong thanks for tuning in. You are right, too. This is my first pickup compare in one video. I’ll definitely keep that in mind next time I do this, and try to show the differences in attack. Hope you hangout. I have a lot of pup videos in the works and other gear things! Cheers!

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +2

      pgong I just uploaded a Lust For Tone video that I made sure to show about attack, and response to touch. I just wanted to say thanks for the suggestion, and I’ll be doing all my videos with a clip that shows the amp cranked with various levels of pick attack. It really made the video better and I thank you for the suggestion/critique! Cheers!

    • @pgong
      @pgong 6 років тому

      So which set do you personally prefer?

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 6 років тому +1

      Visual Guy the great thing about some of Duncan's alnico 2 pickups like the ants and the salsh set is that in the attack they start off tracking like an alnico 5 based pickup or a single coil but then bloom in to that alnico 2 humbucker finish. it's hard to get both of those attributes in an alnico e based humbucker but duncan nails it. it's said alnico 2 based pickups are his passion and it shows. so much more refined then gibsons alnico 2 pickups not that gibsons a2 pickups are bad there just not quite as articulate .

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      I couldn’t agree more. Although, I have played a few sets that have amazing Attack. I think that’s a challenge any good winder tried to accomplish. And it has to be tested on many different amps and settings to see. Thanks for the input.

  • @mojo9291
    @mojo9291 5 років тому +1

    Would like to see how they compare with different volume and tone settings too

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +1

      The volume settings are just woth the guitar turned down. So I gave ya that. But I don’t have these anymore to
      Do another video, unfortunately. But I will be comparing lots of modes soon. Hope you subscribe for the fun! Cheers!

  • @clarkscott8532
    @clarkscott8532 4 роки тому +1

    Have you tried arcane triple clones or 57 experience,? Just wondering how they compare to antiquity etc

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому +1

      Never tried either. Hope to one day!

  • @zelon1983
    @zelon1983 4 роки тому +11

    Antiquities all the way

  • @CenterThePendulum
    @CenterThePendulum 4 роки тому +1

    Looking for pickups to mellow a very bright 335 currently with a p94 neck and MHSII bridge. Seth Lovers seem like they’ll add some warm mellow. Formerly had Lollar Low Wind Imperials and Lollartrons, all the wrong direction tonally for my particular es (though may work for others). Otherwise for LPs OX4 wins the day, every time.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Great choices!!! Let me know!

  • @davindra67
    @davindra67 2 роки тому +3

    Seth lovers for me, more complete and responsive thanks for the demo

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  2 роки тому

      Cheers i hope you the others!

    • @davindra67
      @davindra67 2 роки тому +1

      I was disturb with the tremolo effect of the Seft but in fact in the whole test Antiquity is wider in the scale of possibilities.
      Seft are likes having Texas Special in a Strat very colored styliched

  • @bleufishtv
    @bleufishtv 6 років тому +5

    I personally like the Seth lover better . I also have a Seth lover in my tele

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      bleufishtv Nice man. The SLs are great pickups. I never put one in my tele but the PAF chime would definitely have complimented that guitar. Thanks for tuning in! There are lots more PAFs to come. Stay tuned!

  • @ModifiedSound
    @ModifiedSound 5 років тому +10

    Imo, the perfect setup would be antiquity bridge, seth lover neck. My antiquity neck gets too muddy and bassy, I have to EQ the amp just for it...

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +4

      Have you tried adjusting the pole pieces and lowering the pickup to add brightness? Thanks for the input, hope you subscribe!

    • @Sparky6string
      @Sparky6string 4 роки тому +2

      I agree with this assessment. Antiquity bridge, Seth Lover neck.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers!

    • @Tyler-qw8kn
      @Tyler-qw8kn 3 роки тому

      Replace the magnet in your antiquity neck with a full strength A2 magnet. Problem solved!

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому +1

      I’d go with a degaussed A5 if I were trying to solve muddiness.

  • @gunjabeans
    @gunjabeans 5 років тому +7

    The antiquities sound like a pair of seths real nice and broken in.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +3

      Haha. If you mean weaker magnets, then yea. They are. 😉

    • @gunjabeans
      @gunjabeans 5 років тому +2

      +Visual Guy Yes but also, the sonic edges are rounded off. They are not as stiff and immediate.

    • @lathspell87
      @lathspell87 3 роки тому +2

      I believe that is literally what they are.

  • @kennyh5083
    @kennyh5083 Рік тому +1

    These puppy are amazing! Hoever while I prefer the neck Antiquity in the Bridge I need more of those compelling Gibby Classic 57 Plus mids or I jus ain't happy! and the combination is off the charts, and thru a Marshall nothing can touch them for that magical classic LP tone IMO! Except for when ya want that 59 LP blues vibe then ya gotta have a Duncan sh1 59 in the neck of yer missing out!

  • @Mark-ro1yg
    @Mark-ro1yg 6 років тому +1

    So what are your favorite.. the Seth Lovers, the Antiquities or the Fralin PAFs?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      +Mark Hey Mark. I’d take the Fralin out of those three. They all are great in their own right. Fralins (to my ear) probably have just a little “more” of everything good. And they have better resale! Haha

    • @shred5
      @shred5 5 років тому

      The Duncans aren't as open as they should be for a PAF replica. The Antiquities are probably the best of them, but you can get much better PAF replicas elsewhere. Personally, I'm between Creamery 59s in Alnico II or IV, Lollar Imperials or Fralin's Pure PAFs.

  • @mirrorxful
    @mirrorxful 3 роки тому +4

    anitiquity for me all days

  • @heyou429
    @heyou429 3 роки тому

    What are the tone pots set at? Are the Seth Lovers that thick-to-muddy at 10, or was the tone scaled back a bit?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      They aren’t muddy. They are just bolder than the Ants bc of the stronger magnet. Lower them and raise the poles for less or more. Tone pots were likely set at 10 for neck and 7 for bridge on both but I filmed this years ago and have no memory of that for sure. Just guessing based on my normal approach

  • @davidmann1869
    @davidmann1869 5 років тому

    Used this comparison to choose which pickups to put in my Sheraton picked Seth lovers my Sheraton had good tone but now it sings had will be putting them in an Epiphone LesPaul

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Awesome man. Thanks! Hope you subscribe. Enjoy!

  • @tonytribble2977
    @tonytribble2977 4 роки тому +1

    Seth Lover. Best humbucker ever ! Got it right the first time !

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Hope you subscribe to the channel, brother!

  • @SandeepSingh-zc5sh
    @SandeepSingh-zc5sh 4 роки тому

    I've got a triple humbucker warmoth tele I built with a JB in the bridge. I've got a spare set of Seth Lovers laying about and I'm soooooo tempted to put them in the neck and middle position for that SG Custom vibe 🤔

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Do it!!!!

    • @SandeepSingh-zc5sh
      @SandeepSingh-zc5sh 4 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy Forget that, I'm gonna put them into my 2015 Firebird Non Reverse now after hearing how they sound in your videos and how PAFs sound in a Firebird in Matthew Scott's videos🤣

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      DO IT! Tryem in everything!!!

  • @shred5
    @shred5 6 років тому +8

    Well the antiquities are definitely a bit more open sounding.

    • @guitarman89
      @guitarman89 5 років тому +3

      That's exactly how I heard it. I definitely prefer the Antiquities in this video.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +1

      Gord Basa thanks for chiming in! Hope you subscribe. I have demos of the ants up against tons 10 other big sets

  • @SteeringSteel
    @SteeringSteel 3 роки тому

    I don’t know which pickups sounded better but I do know that the amp sounded great.

  • @richardgregory3644
    @richardgregory3644 6 років тому +1

    Visual guy would like to see you demo the Dimarizo 59 PAF

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Let me see what I can do when I finish what I have coming out soon! Cheers!

  • @evhwolfgang2003
    @evhwolfgang2003 3 роки тому

    I'm building out an es335 kit. So torn between these pickups.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      I vote you look at the Righteous Sound PAT 64! :) but I’d probably go with Antiquities between these two because they are slightly brighter and the semi hollow will have a woody tone, naturally.

  • @DrummerJRyan
    @DrummerJRyan 5 років тому +1

    Seth's for modern rock, Antiquity pups for classic rock in my opinion. Funny story, bought a $300 used Tempest from Guitar Center, showed up with Antiquity pups in it and MJ's initials on the back. Score!

  • @Fugettaboutit
    @Fugettaboutit 7 місяців тому

    Pretty much the difference between aged/degaussed Alnico II magnets (Antiquities) and new magnets (Seths), since the pickup builds are so similar.

  • @MaxCarton
    @MaxCarton 6 років тому +2

    Cool video! I subbed :) Found the antiquity buckers much better imho ;) Love me some pafs :)

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      +Max Carton thanks for tuning in man! Much to come!

    • @MaxCarton
      @MaxCarton 6 років тому +1

      Visual Guy No problem! I love Gibson, paf's and old Marshall Plexi's! I've got a 1987x Marshall reissue that I love. And I like the dimarzio paf :) I've got one in my 61ri SG! Cheers mate

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Cheers brother! We will have some good convo! Thanks for tuning in! I will be doing a before and after RS upgrade in the SG tonight!

    • @MaxCarton
      @MaxCarton 6 років тому +1

      Visual Guy Great! I would love to do a collab of some kind with you some day!

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      +Max Carton i could get behind that!

  • @gillesgenete9598
    @gillesgenete9598 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for demo. I like both sets. I have the SH55 in a ES clone that please me so much. As I listen to the comparison, may be the Antiquities will more suit a Les Paul like in this demo
    Overall it is a matter of taste. 👍

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words. Indeed it is definitely about taste, and the rest of the ingredients. My JTMs and bass heads like the antiquities and make the Seth’s sound warmer. But for a brighter amp, that changes. Nothing definitive buts it’s nice to have things compared equally. Cheers!

  • @AllenPinchloaf
    @AllenPinchloaf 5 років тому +1

    You have tested many humbuckers. Do you have a desert island favorite?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому +1

      Sorry to be boring but not really. If I was on a desert island, I’d probably just worry about getting rescued and not play guitar! 😂😂😂

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      In all seriousness, I have dug them all for diff reasons. Different ones shine in diff guitars. I’ll take any of the A2 sets and adjust to taste!

  • @richq8530
    @richq8530 6 років тому

    Nice video. Have you tried the Seth lovers in the SG? I've got a set of 57 classics in my 17 standard and not over keen. I have been thinking about getting the Seth lovers for it. Got the vintage rs kit for it as well but not fitted it yet.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      +Rich Quinnuk thanks man! I haven’t put a set of Seth’s in the SG, yet. I am doing the vintage RS kit upgrade, before and after video tonight, and then I am gonna throw the Seth’s in for a reference. I’d say they are gonna be pretty good, but I think I am gonna dig a hotter bridge than the Seth. We are gonna do several demos in the SG so stay tuned! Get that RS kit in soon man. It’s next level!!!

    • @richq8530
      @richq8530 6 років тому

      Visual Guy I'll keep an eye out, cheers! I ordered it weeks ago and it's finally coming tomorrow. Ordered 2 sets for my les Pauls as well. Heard good things about them

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      +Rich Quinnuk 2 sets of which, brother?

    • @richq8530
      @richq8530 6 років тому

      Visual Guy For the 2 les Pauls I have ordered the rs "pre-wired vintage electronics upgrade kit" and for the SG I have ordered "pre-wired vintage sg upgrade kit"

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      +Rich Quinnuk Nice! You should
      Have told them you chatted with Visual Guy! Hey’d probably be like “who is that”? Haha Hope you enjoy them!

  • @tylerrose2891
    @tylerrose2891 4 роки тому +1

    My goodness they’re both excellent. Kinda hard to pick. I really don’t understand why anyone would need anything besides Seymour Duncan for aftermarket pickups.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Have you tried a lot of aftermarket pickups? I can understand why they would want and need others, but I’ve owned upwards if 50 sets

    • @tylerrose2891
      @tylerrose2891 4 роки тому

      Visual Guy oh I can’t really say I’m an expert or anything no. Very much just a recreational player. But to the layperson it seems like SD offers pretty much anything you could imagine. Can’t lie I’d love to hear a set of ThroBaks in person but my skill definitely does NOT match the price of them 😂

  • @deancarsononmusic2792
    @deancarsononmusic2792 4 роки тому +2

    Antiquity w a little more brights on the top of the PAF

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      I agree with this I think! Cheers!

  • @adamwatson6916
    @adamwatson6916 3 роки тому +1

    I like the antiquity cleans over the Seth's but prefer the Seth's overdriven .

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      Most of the time, on videos, the more low end, the better sound when a guitar is being played by itself. I think the antiquities would shine a little more in a mix with the slightly sweeter high end. Either set would do fine with adjustments tho. It could also just be my playing, being more authoritative and intentional on the Seth OD take. Who knows!!! They are both great! Thanks for watching

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 2 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy since I watched this video the first time ended up buying a set of seth lovers and now I have a hard time imaging any humbucker set Ants included that I would like better for clean tones . The seth neck is amazing I have them in a Gibson les paul 50s standard and the clean tone from the neck is a dead ringer for Jimmy pages live clean tones with his number 1 les paul . The seth nails his clean tone from Ramble on when he plays it on it might get loud and also nails his clean tone from the live version of over the hills and far away . The bridge pickup is also killer and it nails Alex lifesons 2112 era live tone. It does not quite do the Page thing as well as the neck pup which is due to the fact that page uses A5 based pickups in the bridge I have been told if I put an A5 or unoriented A5 in the bridge it will nail the page Bridge sound. People have also said pairing A duncan 59 in the bridge with the seth neck will not only do a better job of the page bridge tones but also mixing it with the seth will nail the page middle tone. But I really love the seth bridge in this stock form because it does the Rush thing so well which is kind of strange conserving Alex Lifeson used Gibson t tops which are quite different. Unless the T tops he was using had A2 Mags and not A5. Apparently T tops with A2 Mags were quite common in the late 60s and early 70s even though they were supposed to have A5. Quite a few aftermarket winders have repaired and examined quite a few t tops from that Era which had A2 instead of A5. So maybe Alex had some A2 sets . They certainly sound warmer and more rounded then the ones Page was using .

  • @barrypearson644
    @barrypearson644 5 років тому +3

    I like the Seth Lover pickups better.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Awesome man! Thanks for chiming in. Hope you subscribe

  • @BoozyBeggar
    @BoozyBeggar 5 років тому +2

    The differences sound negligible, and that's only if I'm *really* paying attention. I'll go for the cheaper set if I ever get an ES-345 and decide to replace the pickups.

  • @homonavitus6113
    @homonavitus6113 3 роки тому +4

    Antiguity are the best pickups I ever heard. Anyway, Seths have something really special in em, somthing really charming.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching!

  • @kentfranklin736
    @kentfranklin736 3 роки тому +1

    Are you using the stock 300k volume pots or did you go to 500k?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому +1

      500k

    • @kentfranklin736
      @kentfranklin736 3 роки тому

      Thanks for replying. I was deciding between 300k or 500k for my seths but wasn't sure of 500k because I heard seths/antiquities are very bright already

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      That’s why we have tone knobs!

  • @joshiuahallenbeck531
    @joshiuahallenbeck531 5 років тому +3

    That Seth Lover sounded more like Dickie and Duane.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Awesome! Hope you subscribe!!!

  • @finoroverato7640
    @finoroverato7640 5 років тому +1

    Are you in Southern California?

  • @tylergolka9521
    @tylergolka9521 4 роки тому +2

    Seth lovers have a thicker les paul style sound. Antiquities have like a fender style sound but more than a fender has but not as much of a les paul lol. Seth lovers for me but would defineately be just as greatful to have antiquities. 🤘

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Antiquities are def brighter. Probably the weaker magnets compared to fully charged A2 in seth.

    • @musicspeaks1074
      @musicspeaks1074 4 роки тому

      Tyler Golka I agree with you ,got to have both sets 😄

  • @GibsonLesPaul2273
    @GibsonLesPaul2273 4 роки тому

    The antiquity is slightly brighter the Seth is slightly more bass and middle.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe!

  • @christiandude3149
    @christiandude3149 2 роки тому

    Both great... the atiquity Sounds a little more powerful for me so they is my Favorit...
    The Seth Lover is somewhere betwen Duane Allman and Peter Green...
    The Antiquity is somwhere betwen Kossof an Page...

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe! I have a lot of other shootouts!

  • @ac9110
    @ac9110 4 роки тому +3

    Seths sound warmer, more mellow so the ones for me as I play mostly quiet, clean songs.

  • @avaris1280
    @avaris1280 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly.. Seth lover neck and antiquity bridge

  • @hi13ts
    @hi13ts 6 років тому +2

    Both sound excellent, but I think the Antiquities have a sparkle that the Lovers don't, to my surprise as I was sure I'd like the Lovers more! I'd say Antiquities sound like a less aggressive and sparkly 57 Classic.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      +hi13ts Yea man, they are less charged A2 magnets, so they have some extra brightness. But I think it really depends on other things too. If I had a brighter amp, the Seth may be a better choice. It all
      matters, but I do agree. In this video, I think the Antiquities sound better. Thanks for tuning in! Cheers!

  • @AllenPinchloaf
    @AllenPinchloaf 5 років тому +1

    Now get those Fralin pure Paf in there for a comparison

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Here we go!
      ua-cam.com/video/Sak0M0Wi7YY/v-deo.html

  • @felixjordan186
    @felixjordan186 6 років тому +1

    How does the antiquities compare to the Sheptone tribute in your opinion ?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Hey man - you’ll likely find the Sheptones to be a tad brighter. They have A5 magnets as opposed to the Antiquity A2 (softer). They are also slightly lower DCR. Brighter for a LP is a good thing for me, because I use my Tone controls a lot and I dig the tele on steroids thing. Both are great sets and unless you put them in a guitar and record them to A/B them, whichever you end up with are an excellent choice. I’ll have a couple of Shep vids coming out this week. One Tribute 4 vid, and one that compares the two Tribute sets he offers. Just FYI. Cheers!

  • @mcspankies1799
    @mcspankies1799 4 роки тому +1

    This solidifies my chouce to get a pair of seth lovers

  • @myvintagesunburst7418
    @myvintagesunburst7418 5 років тому +7

    Ants sounded fuller , more complex , less 'in your face' compared to the Seths .

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      Thanks for chiming in! Getting ready to put them up against a few. Throbak, wizz, lollar. We’ll see! Hope you subscribe!

    • @myvintagesunburst7418
      @myvintagesunburst7418 5 років тому

      I want a set of Throwbacks , but they're a bit pricey . I opted for a set of Antiquities for my Les Paul as they were half as many shekels ...

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  5 років тому

      I have bought up a bunch of sets to compare for youtubers to hear. Starting the vids this week!

  • @GeekLevelAsian
    @GeekLevelAsian 2 роки тому

    0:48 Saves The Day - At Your Funeral?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  2 роки тому

      I don’t know what that means lol

    • @GeekLevelAsian
      @GeekLevelAsian 2 роки тому +1

      @@VisualGuy haha my bad. Your chord choice is legit the chorus to that song. It starts out with single notes and then they ring out G D A, same tempo, timing, etc.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  2 роки тому

      Nice! Don’t know it but lots of songs have that chord arrangement. Got lucky!

  • @ricmel8008
    @ricmel8008 3 роки тому

    I wonder how the Jazz would do in this battle.

  • @chanceterrill5346
    @chanceterrill5346 3 роки тому

    Which do You prefer in general?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому +2

      Antiquities

    • @chanceterrill5346
      @chanceterrill5346 3 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy antiquities vs sle? I currently wcr/Wagner Darkbursts and they are great as well....I hate to be this guy...... But..... Have u ever played any wcr/wagner pups? N is there any chance at all to see a comparison between the throbak and say a darkburst or crossroads?

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      You can see an SLE + vid VS antiquities. I’ve never tried the actual SLE-101. Never played any Wagner. I may one day, but so far I’ve not come across any.

    • @chanceterrill5346
      @chanceterrill5346 3 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy oh I saw the video I should have clarified I was asking what you preferred, like what was your favorite of the entire shootout if you had to pick both neck and Bridge they don't have to be of the same set just your favorite neck pickup and your favorite Ridge pickup of the entire shootout

    • @chanceterrill5346
      @chanceterrill5346 3 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy and definitely keep your eyes peeled for a Wagner darkbursts or Crossroads, he has a little bit different construction method to the typical paf cloners but he somehow achieves a recorded paf EQ, basically he winds his pick up till they sound the way he wants, and they end up sounding like some of the best paf ever recorded

  • @godsgifttotheinternet4538
    @godsgifttotheinternet4538 6 років тому +6

    Antiquities are noticeably better, I didn't think there would be that much of a difference but there definitely is

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for the input!
      You UA-cam name is so great, by the way. 😂

  • @slashingbison2503
    @slashingbison2503 4 роки тому

    Seths for me

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Awesome! Thanks for watching! I have tons more shootouts on my channel if interested

  • @fekkyb
    @fekkyb 3 роки тому +1

    When doing comparisons like these IMHO you should play EXACTLY THE SAME Chords and Lines for both in order to get a real COMPARISON. Thanks anyway.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      This was one of the first shootouts I ever filmed. Try the other 85 in my playlist and you’ll find what you want there. Cheers.

  • @Jakal-pw8yq
    @Jakal-pw8yq 3 роки тому

    Would have preferred a better sounding amplifier to start with and more Dynamic playing to follow up. Sorry but this demo didn't really provide any solutions for me

  • @J.C...
    @J.C... 6 місяців тому

    You gotta do, bridge vs bridge, middle vs middle, neck vs neck. This whole do all these licks and then do them all again with the next pickups doesn't work. You, can't compare pickups like that. It doesn't work.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @TroyPosey
    @TroyPosey 3 роки тому +1

    I just did a comparison video showing the Epiphone 57CH(G) and the Gibson USA '57 Classic Plus bridge humbuckers.
    ua-cam.com/video/L38c_YKcyWU/v-deo.html

  • @Morte_Deus
    @Morte_Deus 6 років тому

    Really they are so close, the difference can be made up with tone changes on the amp. to me the Seth lovers sound better in the solo and the antiquities sound better using chords.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      Yep! Very true.

    • @Morte_Deus
      @Morte_Deus 6 років тому

      Hey thank you for doing the comparison, i bought an antiquity for my les to put in the bridge and that's what im about to do now !

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +1

      I love doing these things. It’s pretty informal but I had yet to see one using the same guitar. Thanks for the kind words and please keep in touch! Don’t forget, only solder the metals! if you smell chicken... you check for all 10 fingers! 😂😂🍻

    • @Morte_Deus
      @Morte_Deus 6 років тому

      I have had that antiquity in my guitar for over an hour now and it's never coming out, it's freaking incredible! Better than what i expected. I'm trying to get the strings all at the same volume, the high E and B are a bit louder than the others, so im messing with the pole screws to get it right. What i did was move the 57 classic + from the bridge to the neck and put the antiquity Bridge in, the balance is prefect.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      Glad you have having so much success with it bud! Keep me posted!

  • @shawnreese6538
    @shawnreese6538 3 роки тому

    The Antiquities bridge sounds like Jimmy Page early zeppelin, and the and the Lover bridge sound like Free, Paul Rodgers...

  • @TheScunion
    @TheScunion Рік тому +1

    I hate when people do comparison videos and they go through all three positions on one set and then go through all three on the next set. By that point you have no reference as to what they sound like position to position relative to each other. Going from a bridge in one to the neck on another. I wish people would keep this in mind when they edit and post these comparison videos.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  Рік тому

      Open two browsers. Chapter the video in the comments. Or make your own version that is better. All great options other than complaining. This has been addressed many times in the comments. There are solutions.

    • @TheScunion
      @TheScunion Рік тому +1

      @@VisualGuy I’ll complain because you’re presenting this as a comparison video and I shouldn’t have to do all that crap in order to actually be able to compare them; you should have put the work in. Learn to edit.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  Рік тому

      I made this 5 years ago. I've learned. Dare you to subscribe.

  • @ignavumasinus5908
    @ignavumasinus5908 6 років тому +2

    That wax potting really muffled the Lovers! Great demo

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +7

      +Ignavum Asinus actually, neither pickups are potted! It’s just the Lovers are a little warmer. Both sets come with no wax... as God intended and I much prefer! Cheers!

    • @bee.normal
      @bee.normal 6 років тому +6

      ... AS GOD INTENDED...
      Truer words have never been spoken.
      Subbed.

    • @shred5
      @shred5 6 років тому +1

      It's not the potting. I've heard enough potted pickups that are much more open than any Seymour Duncans...

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому

      True, but there is no potting on the Seths. 😉

  • @AllbeeHivezChristianAllbee
    @AllbeeHivezChristianAllbee 4 роки тому

    To me, the Seth Lovers sound hotter (possibly like a brand new PAF) with the Antiquities sounding brighter and softer.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching! Hope you check out the others!

  • @roknfnrol
    @roknfnrol 6 років тому +1

    First!

  • @jsebsteelguitar
    @jsebsteelguitar 2 роки тому

    Seth Lover sounds better for me

  • @johndoheny8459
    @johndoheny8459 3 роки тому

    seth lovers sound better!

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      Thanjs for watching. Hope you subscribe

  • @derrysetiawan3056
    @derrysetiawan3056 3 роки тому

    Both sound like chinese pickup brand GnB

  • @d179654582248
    @d179654582248 3 роки тому

    So much nice and expensive gear, unfortunately the player doesn’t do all that gear justice at all.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      “Justice”. That is a very strong word. I’d argue that the point of this video, regardless of the playing or their ability, is to show some differences, (if any) of the two sets of pickups. Therefore, your comment does this video no justice because it doesn’t contribute to the overall purpose or topic. But I’m no debater. I hope you still enjoyed the video, and and remember to be polite to your fellow earthlings! Cheers!

    • @SpeedoBaggins
      @SpeedoBaggins 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you for contributing such positivity to not only the guitar community, but to the human race. Will be awaiting the videos of your excellent playing and gear demos with bated breath.

    • @d179654582248
      @d179654582248 3 роки тому

      @@VisualGuy shitty playing actually makes you judge gear more harshly because your ear keeps pointing out overly sharped bends or missed notes during a fast picking run. So I would argue this video is almost the opposite of a comparison or promo.

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  3 роки тому

      Like I said, I’m no debater. Just remember to be polite to your fellow earthlings. I wish you all the best in your playing and if I ever come across your content I will do my best to lift you up. If you ever need any feedback about pickups, I’m happy to tell you my experiences. Cheers!

    • @SpeedoBaggins
      @SpeedoBaggins 3 роки тому +1

      Almost 100 different people commented on this video with positivity. Thank goodness you came here to set the record straight. Instead of complaining on the videos of others, why don’t you post your own gear demo videos and contribute more to the community by “doing gear justice”, instead of sitting around your house dumping on people that are actually taking the time to contribute.

  • @Muddybagclean
    @Muddybagclean 4 роки тому

    Jesus Loves You

  • @manu80182
    @manu80182 6 років тому +46

    CLEAN
    antiquity neck : 0:16
    antiquity middle : 0:24
    antiquity bridge : 0:32
    seth lover neck : 0:42
    seth lover middle : 0:48
    seth lover bridge : 0:53
    CRUNCH LEAD
    antiquity bridge 1:04
    antiquity neck : 1:15
    seth lover bridge : 1:26
    seth lover neck : 1:43
    CRUNCH RHYTHM
    antiquity bridge : 2:01
    antiquity neck : 2:14
    seth lover bridge : 2:30
    seth lover neck : 2:51

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy  6 років тому +6

      Thanks for doing that. Cheers!

    • @manu80182
      @manu80182 6 років тому +7

      Thank you for this video !

  • @bruhdamartinasty3636
    @bruhdamartinasty3636 2 роки тому

    CLEAN
    antiquity neck : 0:16
    antiquity middle : 0:24
    antiquity bridge : 0:32
    seth lover neck : 0:42
    seth lover middle : 0:48
    seth lover bridge : 0:53
    CRUNCH LEAD
    antiquity bridge 1:04
    antiquity neck : 1:15
    seth lover bridge : 1:26
    seth lover neck : 1:43
    CRUNCH RHYTHM
    antiquity bridge : 2:01
    antiquity neck : 2:14
    seth lover bridge : 2:30
    seth lover neck : 2:51