We are renovating our ENTIRE farm house top to bottom. If you'd like to see the other renovations we've done to this home then watch REALITY RENOVISION Season 3 HERE: ua-cam.com/video/s7EkGOOzTTA/v-deo.html
I really wish you reach millions of subscribers, I am a girl but enjoys listening and watching all ur renos..Son is so handsome and knows about home repairs is 👍👍👍
Hi Jeff , great progress and that boy of yours is doing a great job too over these you tube videos we have seen him grow into a taller you / It is nice to see father and son work together
Just found Ur channel and subscribed 2 both of them. I have certainly learned a lot from watching U on fixing Drywall and I'm very grateful. My house was built in the early 1940's and unfortunately I wasn't able 2do everything I wanted 2 bring it up 2 date. I know this video is a yr old, but after seeing U remove the old insulation, destroyed by rodents, insects and who knows whatever else? I now know exactly what I would find if I tore down ceilings and walls and all I can say is U have made it clear to me that I need to get out of this house asap. So? My procrastination is now over. I deeply thank you for this. I'm so glad I found Ur channel.
Enjoy your work and ideas. I get concerned sometimes as Jeff seems to always be out of breath. Hope he doesn't have high blood pressure or heart issues. Great to see the progress.
The chat room was the most fun I've had in awhile! It was awesome to get to talk to the whole crew! It was a treat to chat with Matt!!! That was a surprise! And the video was hilarious from start to finish! Max did a great job with the editing! The renovation was awesome! Just goes to show what an improvement looks like when done by professionals! Thank you all!!
me and my dad are renovating his 1906 house. His add on bathroom, guessing 1950-60 addition. Structure is all off, they put insulation in the roof but not the wall and used 2x2 boards to separate the bedroom closet and the bathroom, they fixed the cast iron sewer lines with barb wires and duct tape. With budget restrictions, we are working with what we have and going from there. Its for sale to any renter right now basically. If Jeff worked on my dads bathroom, hed probably just say tear the whole addition off and start over.
I’m so happy I found you on your tube. I’ve spent a month demoing my house down to the studs. Now I am starting to rebuild, thanks to you I feel more confident.
What a beautiful room! I'm going to love this video. I didn't realize that space is a Murphy Bed until I saw the info in the description area. And Lori Wall Beds is the best! 8 more minutes before the video starts. If I were a drinker, I'd go get a beer for this one! LOL
Jeff, you’ve taught me a lot of things, but if it all goes away tomorrow and I only remember one thing, it’s that embarking on a project like this is in a house older than about 35 years old is NOT for me
Had Same issue here. Cabin style home in woods, no one lived in for a decade.. I filled an 8gal shop vac dust bag with mouse feces.. just over my wood kitchen ceiling’s drop ceiling! 🤷🏽♀️ grow room at one time.. no clue the thought process behind the 7’ kitchen that opens to 20’ living room cathedral! Mice, rats, bats, birds.. love insulation!
I'm so excited ive been waiting for this! HDTV is good but Jeff just does it so much better! Looks like a great design can't wait for the before and afters
I felt like I needed to put a mask on while watching you look at that insulation in my own living room-toes are curling🤢-perfect music for this video I really enjoy watching you work with your son, and I’m learning a lot from your videos!! Thanks 😊
Just the fact that you got that mess all the heebie-jeebies cleaned up and out is a win win. That is awesome your son moved in with you. Does he love his new bedroom/office space or did you make a different room for him?
Pulling out the plasterboards from the ceiling and then seeing wood was so familiar... had the exact same thing in the living room.. thinking this is going to be easy.. guess not..
I have been really enjoying your channels. We just purchased a fixer upper home and you have given a lot of good info and tips. Keep up the great work and look forward to new videos and A-Z’s. Have you thought about making video on wall removal and identifying load bearing vs non load bearing.
Some people are not touching the old layer for a reason though, maybe asbestos containing material? Maybe laziness?lol but of the time it’s cheaper and less hassle to just cover it with the new one lol.
Jeff, love your videos. One question, what is the purpose of the Green Glue noiseproofing compound if it is applied on areas of the drywall that won’t come in contact with anything. In other words, why didn’t you apply the Green Glue directly on the metal track and then press the drywall into it? Cheers!
Great video, I was curious about barn board. I have never seen it on a ceiling before but I have seen it on the walls going all the way up to the roof. I am wondering what it was for and if it has any structural value to it? If you want to remove it to put in insulation is any more structural support needed to replace it?
Hi Jeff, I had to stop the video and take several goes to make sure of what I was seeing but it looks as if you have plants growing out of the old roof, what is more is that the plants look like “weed” so you might want to get rid of that before the police take a look.
I’d love to know what brand of mask PPE and filter was used? I’m a slender female and unfortunately this home is much like my own that, I am still awake after pulling an all nighter to plug up the many HOLES in the house - HUGE ones around drain pipes, cable between rooms from long ago, and massive holes behind the hot water heater….which all connects to the disgusting walls which connect to the disgusting narrow attack filled with mice and bugs! I only found this 3 x 4 ft hole behind the hot water tank 3 days ago when trying to figure plug up all the open seams of ceiling and walls in the water closet, because it literally has been an OVEN in the bathroom! And the wall also has dry rot at the base that has expanded into my daughter’s bedroom! When I saw the MASSIVE holes behind the water heater I was a little ticked at my husband I have to admit because I’m pretty sure he put in the water heater and hooked it up to the other water heater over 15 yrs ago when we converted our duplex to single family! He said he was trying to do it fast because it was supposed to be “temporary”. I need to let go of being upset every time I’m shocked at what I find and just keep DOING! It’s a health risk to our family and I work really hard to keep things very clean but it is so difficult when there are so many exposures to the walls w all that gross old insulation that comes crumbling down or out of the holes, and I’m so tired of cleaning mouse poop off shelves and out of drawers and sanitizing everything! Makes a lot of all nighters for me! Thought I was making great headway on plugging up holes until I found that water heater! Gonna be hard for me to get back there but I think hubby has agreed to start taking out the decaying walls so we can see better what might be causing the dry rot! Too bad it’s so much work because hubby thinks we might be able to build our new house here in one year or less. But I just can’t stand living in a “mouse Highway”! Anyway I need to get a better fitting mask like that young man had on that fits nice and snug! One question Jeff besides mask type: Should tile have some kind of expanding water proof caulking between the edge of the tile and the dry wall areas?? I think it is really gross how all kind of stuff easily gets in between floor trim and tile / wood / or laminate floors….or even BEHIND the trim because tops of trim aren’t sealed and because they are the particle board type “wood” trim, it bows out from the wall if different places with time - which I think is his reason for not filling the trim tops of bottoms with anything, since then it may crack. But having the spaces to harbor dirt pet hair, fleas, dust mites, whatever, is worse in my mind then potentially risking a few cracks here and there which could be repaired most likely. Pest infestation is much harder to control and get rid of, especially for chemically sensitive people like my kids and myself, then dealing with repair for a few cracks along floor boards! I asked my husband if normally these places get sealed and he said no? We have been renovating a 4 plex next door and made it look nice but there is nothing between the engineered wood and floor trim, nor at the top. He says you shouldn’t put anything there because the floor “has to move”. But I think the expanding stuff is maybe what we should be using? I actually added part of it next door myself using some product Jeff recommended for some other show. But unfortunately I could not do much of it except where the dish washer was going to go because the majority of all the new, hardwood kitchen cabinets, as well as the new floor, were/was already installed by hubby - only w just empty space between wood floors and the exterior wall of the kitchen, and no fill. So basically the floor dips down slightly there and there were spiders in there in the one I filled! Wish I could have pulled out the others but it was too late! I didn’t get to any of the interior walls either but I probably could ask the tenants if it would be OK for me to do that. He just moved in last month and is very nice and understands that we weren’t able to finish every little thing because he had to move in urgently due to him having cancer and his son living in the next unit over. But I won’t do it if Jeff doesn’t think that something that people normally do. What IS the norm? Is this really “common” to not seal that w anything??? Doesn’t seem right to me. But I’m the picky OCD one and ex engineer (chemical, not civil like my dad was…unfortunately he passed on when I was 10 yrs old). I “retired” from engineering and now full time mom of a boy and girl! 🤓 💙💖
Holy crap. After tearing that down to the frame I would have gone bananas with a big sandblaster to get rid of the nasty surface just because knowing what is behind that new drywall would freak me out and the OCD would haunt me in my sleep for the next five years.
absolutely perfect Jeff. What did you end up doing for between rafter's insulation? rigid foam or bat? did you have to worry about leaving some room beneath the roof for air flow? thanks.
Hi Reza. we used batt and no worry about air flor. the attic does not have fresh air soffit so the only downside is the shingles will only last 25 years instead of 50.
I am building an office. To do this I am adding one wall and a French door (not touching other walls). Would there be any value to soundproofing the new wall in some fashion when there is a French door opening? It would be nice to keep some house noise out of the office when working at home.
Hi Jeff, I cannot help it, I always spot the odd things on the ceiling, when you were talking about being able to move fitting after the inspection I noticed an electric box high up on one of the boards that went to the top of the roof, as I don’t think you would have an exit from your roof and the lights were on a different circuit what was the junction box for?
You should not have removed the existing collar ties before putting the new ones in. You should also have checked that the walls were a consistent distance apart from one en to the other. If not, then you could have corrected by pulling the walls in a bit.
So you say in this video that you'll go metal roof, but you decided not to, so I'm wondering what the logic of the metal roof in the first place was, and what you had to do since you decided not to go that route.
We are renovating our ENTIRE farm house top to bottom. If you'd like to see the other renovations we've done to this home then watch REALITY RENOVISION Season 3 HERE: ua-cam.com/video/s7EkGOOzTTA/v-deo.html
🤣🤣 they're so hilarious
That wooden ceiling surprised was epic..🤣🤣🤣 I laught for at least 5 minutes..WHAATT!!
At 28:43 jeff almost ran through the wall when that piece of insulation hit his shoulder...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..Like aaaaaahhhhhh....what's on my neck...
What is the STC difference between fiberglass and rockwool?
Jeff is not a big fan of protective gears. So when you see him geared up from toes to head, you know things are getting serious:D
That what I was thinking, no safety squint for those turds.
You have to protect yourself from those horse rats!
I was thinking the exact same thing. It must be bad, if he puts on protective gear.
I really wish you reach millions of subscribers, I am a girl but enjoys listening and watching all ur renos..Son is so handsome and knows about home repairs is 👍👍👍
Hi Jeff , great progress and that boy of yours is doing a great job too over these you tube videos we have seen him grow into a taller you / It is nice to see father and son work together
Just found Ur channel and subscribed 2 both of them. I have certainly learned a lot from watching U on fixing Drywall and I'm very grateful. My house was built in the early 1940's and unfortunately I wasn't able 2do everything I wanted 2 bring it up 2 date. I know this video is a yr old, but after seeing U remove the old insulation, destroyed by rodents, insects and who knows whatever else? I now know exactly what I would find if I tore down ceilings and walls and all I can say is U have made it clear to me that I need to get out of this house asap. So? My procrastination is now over. I deeply thank you for this. I'm so glad I found Ur channel.
We recently bought our first house that's a 100yr old farm house. I can't thank you enough for all the helpful content.
Enjoy your work and ideas. I get concerned sometimes as Jeff seems to always be out of breath. Hope he doesn't have high blood pressure or heart issues. Great to see the progress.
Ive noticed that too. Maybe too many risks of not wearing a mask.
Good diagnostic doc.
He puts a lot of energy into what he does.
I'd be out of breath too! The chap is working hard!
He's doing heavy labor and isn't 20 anymore. Age does that.
The chat room was the most fun I've had in awhile! It was awesome to get to talk to the whole crew! It was a treat to chat with Matt!!! That was a surprise! And the video was hilarious from start to finish! Max did a great job with the editing! The renovation was awesome! Just goes to show what an improvement looks like when done by professionals! Thank you all!!
i love the father & son dynamic
LOVE THE "HAPPY TREE" REFERENCE FROM BOB ROSS :) 46:32
You are so funny 😂 loved your Bob Ross happy trees lol
me and my dad are renovating his 1906 house. His add on bathroom, guessing 1950-60 addition. Structure is all off, they put insulation in the roof but not the wall and used 2x2 boards to separate the bedroom closet and the bathroom, they fixed the cast iron sewer lines with barb wires and duct tape. With budget restrictions, we are working with what we have and going from there. Its for sale to any renter right now basically. If Jeff worked on my dads bathroom, hed probably just say tear the whole addition off and start over.
Watching Jeff brainstorm about what's behind the wood ceiling is like watching a kid guess what's in their present. He's so pumped for a surprise lol.
It's so good watching father and son working together.
I’m so happy I found you on your tube. I’ve spent a month demoing my house down to the studs. Now I am starting to rebuild, thanks to you I feel more confident.
WOW! Man...that looks gorgeous! I'm sure the 👪 💘 it!
tHE POPINT IS THAT YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOUR WORK. cHEERS!
Jeff Ross. Didn’t know I was watching a channel of painting. Happy trees
What a beautiful room! I'm going to love this video. I didn't realize that space is a Murphy Bed until I saw the info in the description area. And Lori Wall Beds is the best! 8 more minutes before the video starts. If I were a drinker, I'd go get a beer for this one! LOL
Glad you liked it!! You are the best Sandy! One of these days I will come to renovate your house. Cheers!
Farmhouse reno is where its at!
Well done and all your video's certainly help us DIY'ers to keep moving things forward knowing you as well are working hard as well. 🇨🇦💯👍
That attic... The way he describes it, at 2:53 - it's like Mike Rowe meets Heironymus Bosch!
I’m excited about your new video. I can’t wait to see the loft. I know there’ll be plenty of ideas that I’d not have thought of!
Awesome! Thank you!
Jeff, you’ve taught me a lot of things, but if it all goes away tomorrow and I only remember one thing, it’s that embarking on a project like this is in a house older than about 35 years old is NOT for me
Thx for the replay lolll! I was about to rewind myself 🤣
I absolutely love the work, but Jeff's banter is exceptional. It goes perfectly with the work.
I really really enjoy these videos.
Thank you very much!
Your son will treasure these memories when he's alone older too. N you have them on film!
Cant wait to finish my 1880 New England house. It’s not easy but it will be so worth it
Had Same issue here. Cabin style home in woods, no one lived in for a decade.. I filled an 8gal shop vac dust bag with mouse feces.. just over my wood kitchen ceiling’s drop ceiling! 🤷🏽♀️ grow room at one time.. no clue the thought process behind the 7’ kitchen that opens to 20’ living room cathedral! Mice, rats, bats, birds.. love insulation!
I'm so excited ive been waiting for this! HDTV is good but Jeff just does it so much better! Looks like a great design can't wait for the before and afters
Hope you enjoy it!
I can't stop watching these!!!!!
Oh, I did see the white suits and safety practices...good. I love your show.
Woo! Can’t wait! It’s time to get my learn on.
great video production quality! this could easily be a tv show.
It's funny when you say you're meeting Ethan for the first time in Episode 5 when he featured earlier, in the basement. Got to love continuity. 😂
I felt like I needed to put a mask on while watching you look at that insulation in my own living room-toes are curling🤢-perfect music for this video I really enjoy watching you work with your son, and I’m learning a lot from your videos!! Thanks 😊
Your content is just simply incredible. I wish you knew how much you've taught me.
That Bob Ross reenactment was great!
Jeff, if your wife is the one who designed the decor for the room, she has great taste. I love it.
Just the fact that you got that mess all the heebie-jeebies cleaned up and out is a win win. That is awesome your son moved in with you. Does he love his new bedroom/office space or did you make a different room for him?
This is taking creativity in projects to the next level. Love it. DRDDS
Interested to see what it actually takes to get a mask on that face. Rat droppings. Yeah, that would do it for me too.
Covid itself couldn't get a mask on that face
Learning a lot! Thanks so much!
My parents 200 year old house use to have new paper lining the wall. When the basement was exposed I would read them when I was a kid.
Soul crushing reality
Pulling out the plasterboards from the ceiling and then seeing wood was so familiar... had the exact same thing in the living room.. thinking this is going to be easy.. guess not..
I love you jeff
First video I clicked on this morning! Nice to see you back at it.
Loving this series! Keep up the good work Jeff! Love seeing all the family involved, would love to work with my family in the same way one day 😀
I have been really enjoying your channels. We just purchased a fixer upper home and you have given a lot of good info and tips. Keep up the great work and look forward to new videos and A-Z’s. Have you thought about making video on wall removal and identifying load bearing vs non load bearing.
Loved watching.
Great renovation. I like it!!!
You guys did a great job with filming n editing.
They did that to our walls in our house in the late 40s!
I ment 30s! All that cardboard infont of the instalation!
"THE POOP... IS HUGE" -Jeff Thorman
Some people are not touching the old layer for a reason though, maybe asbestos containing material? Maybe laziness?lol but of the time it’s cheaper and less hassle to just cover it with the new one lol.
That structural engineer doesn't give me much confidence. I think you Jeff are teaching him a few things. The room looks great
Great work as usual! Was the soundproofing to avoid hearing the mice when they return, :) J/K! What was done to ensure they won't return.
i used to think Jeff is like the Bob Ross of DIY... so when he said to beat the devil out of the brush, i almost pissed myself laughing :D
Jeff, love your videos. One question, what is the purpose of the Green Glue noiseproofing compound if it is applied on areas of the drywall that won’t come in contact with anything. In other words, why didn’t you apply the Green Glue directly on the metal track and then press the drywall into it? Cheers!
Great video, I was curious about barn board. I have never seen it on a ceiling before but I have seen it on the walls going all the way up to the roof.
I am wondering what it was for and if it has any structural value to it? If you want to remove it to put in insulation is any more structural support needed to replace it?
You could have gone cathedral with some really cool beams that worked structurally and ornamentally.
Hi Jeff, I had to stop the video and take several goes to make sure of what I was seeing but it looks as if you have plants growing out of the old roof, what is more is that the plants look like “weed” so you might want to get rid of that before the police take a look.
I’d love to know what brand of mask PPE and filter was used? I’m a slender female and unfortunately this home is much like my own that, I am still awake after pulling an all nighter to plug up the many HOLES in the house - HUGE ones around drain pipes, cable between rooms from long ago, and massive holes behind the hot water heater….which all connects to the disgusting walls which connect to the disgusting narrow attack filled with mice and bugs! I only found this 3 x 4 ft hole behind the hot water tank 3 days ago when trying to figure plug up all the open seams of ceiling and walls in the water closet, because it literally has been an OVEN in the bathroom! And the wall also has dry rot at the base that has expanded into my daughter’s bedroom! When I saw the MASSIVE holes behind the water heater I was a little ticked at my husband I have to admit because I’m pretty sure he put in the water heater and hooked it up to the other water heater over 15 yrs ago when we converted our duplex to single family! He said he was trying to do it fast because it was supposed to be “temporary”. I need to let go of being upset every time I’m shocked at what I find and just keep DOING! It’s a health risk to our family and I work really hard to keep things very clean but it is so difficult when there are so many exposures to the walls w all that gross old insulation that comes crumbling down or out of the holes, and I’m so tired of cleaning mouse poop off shelves and out of drawers and sanitizing everything! Makes a lot of all nighters for me! Thought I was making great headway on plugging up holes until I found that water heater! Gonna be hard for me to get back there but I think hubby has agreed to start taking out the decaying walls so we can see better what might be causing the dry rot! Too bad it’s so much work because hubby thinks we might be able to build our new house here in one year or less. But I just can’t stand living in a “mouse Highway”! Anyway I need to get a better fitting mask like that young man had on that fits nice and snug!
One question Jeff besides mask type:
Should tile have some kind of expanding water proof caulking between the edge of the tile and the dry wall areas?? I think it is really gross how all kind of stuff easily gets in between floor trim and tile / wood / or laminate floors….or even BEHIND the trim because tops of trim aren’t sealed and because they are the particle board type “wood” trim, it bows out from the wall if different places with time - which I think is his reason for not filling the trim tops of bottoms with anything, since then it may crack. But having the spaces to harbor dirt pet hair, fleas, dust mites, whatever, is worse in my mind then potentially risking a few cracks here and there which could be repaired most likely. Pest infestation is much harder to control and get rid of, especially for chemically sensitive people like my kids and myself, then dealing with repair for a few cracks along floor boards!
I asked my husband if normally these places get sealed and he said no? We have been renovating a 4 plex next door and made it look nice but there is nothing between the engineered wood and floor trim, nor at the top.
He says you shouldn’t put anything there because the floor “has to move”.
But I think the expanding stuff is maybe what we should be using? I actually added part of it next door myself using some product Jeff recommended for some other show.
But unfortunately I could not do much of it except where the dish washer was going to go because the majority of all the new, hardwood kitchen cabinets, as well as the new floor, were/was already installed by hubby - only w just empty space between wood floors and the exterior wall of the kitchen, and no fill.
So basically the floor dips down slightly there and there were spiders in there in the one I filled!
Wish I could have pulled out the others but it was too late! I didn’t get to any of the interior walls either but I probably could ask the tenants if it would be OK for me to do that. He just moved in last month and is very nice and understands that we weren’t able to finish every little thing because he had to move in urgently due to him having cancer and his son living in the next unit over.
But I won’t do it if Jeff doesn’t think that something that people normally do. What IS the norm?
Is this really “common” to not seal that w anything??? Doesn’t seem right to me. But I’m the picky OCD one and ex engineer (chemical, not civil like my dad was…unfortunately he passed on when I was 10 yrs old). I “retired” from engineering and now full time mom of a boy and girl! 🤓 💙💖
Holy crap. After tearing that down to the frame I would have gone bananas with a big sandblaster to get rid of the nasty surface just because knowing what is behind that new drywall would freak me out and the OCD would haunt me in my sleep for the next five years.
absolutely perfect Jeff. What did you end up doing for between rafter's insulation? rigid foam or bat? did you have to worry about leaving some room beneath the roof for air flow? thanks.
Hi Reza. we used batt and no worry about air flor. the attic does not have fresh air soffit so the only downside is the shingles will only last 25 years instead of 50.
Cardboard actually can make great insulation, I forget the R value but its pretty good at even an inch. Not as great as store bought but still haha
Someone please do a meme of Jeff dressed up like Bob Marley when he paints that Christmas tree with the glue! Please! Lol
Jeff..... your channel is fckn great!!!!!
@ 47:18 I’m intrigued how you got the gear drive panel lift and all the big equipment up into the loft.
Random, but I'm feeling the oddest impulse to search out an old copy of The Money Pit ... and also anxious that no one fall through any floors.
great vdieo
Max doesn't get the props he deserves on these videos lol
I am building an office. To do this I am adding one wall and a French door (not touching other walls). Would there be any value to soundproofing the new wall in some fashion when there is a French door opening? It would be nice to keep some house noise out of the office when working at home.
Hi Jeff, I cannot help it, I always spot the odd things on the ceiling, when you were talking about being able to move fitting after the inspection I noticed an electric box high up on one of the boards that went to the top of the roof, as I don’t think you would have an exit from your roof and the lights were on a different circuit what was the junction box for?
Hi John. that was box for the integrated fire alarm. it was moved later! Cheers!
Yay!!
Just a questions Jeff why didn't you finish the back wall with the shelves and the bed with drywall before you installed it? to bring the cost down?
Mirror to my soul 😂
Your son has grown up!
You do know that you are building the bed that your grandchild is going to be conceived on!!!!!
You’re like the real Canadian Holmes on homes! Question though, you soundproofed the entire room except behind the Murphy bed...why?
You should not have removed the existing collar ties before putting the new ones in. You should also have checked that the walls were a consistent distance apart from one en to the other. If not, then you could have corrected by pulling the walls in a bit.
Better than bees like I’ve got
During the depression. They probably used what they could get their hands on to keep out the cold.
They use that metal drywall framing clips in France alot
Did you finish the wall behind the Murphy bed?
I’ve been watching you for 2 years and just discovered this channel today. Bad fan i have to do better 😂
Can you do that vapor barrier, on the 1st fl or just the top floor?
did they use spirit levels when that house was built?
Do you have a how to video for the tongue and groove ceiling?
Nice video! I subscribed
Awesome thank you!
That was some serious Baywatch stuff with the old insulation coming down! Sexy!
What is the STC difference between fiberglass and rockwool?
Why was there no sheetrock on the wall you put the bed against?
So you say in this video that you'll go metal roof, but you decided not to, so I'm wondering what the logic of the metal roof in the first place was, and what you had to do since you decided not to go that route.
More of These !! (back to the framing projects)
Bay Area listing: "Attic living space for rent. Has character. $2,500 per month."
Hahaha so true
If only Bob Ross had some Green Glue
Can somebody please let me know what the other channel is that jeff keeps referring too ? Thanks in advance.
Homerenovision.
32:00 in Jeff was like John Wick
and apparently Bob Ross at 47:00 lol
don't touch my dog. LOL
finally