Why radiant players never go pro

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  • Have you ever wondered why so many of the top 100 Valorant players aren't pros, or maybe why so many of your favorite pro players aren't even Radiant. Well ask no longer, watch as Tenz, Tarik & Kaplan break it down for you!
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  • @Sugarist0
    @Sugarist0 Рік тому +7437

    Labelling Tarik as a ranked demon who can’t go pro in the thumbnail is somehow so ironic yet 100% true

    • @kdot4879
      @kdot4879 Рік тому +167

      Tarik could def do damage in t2 if he wanted to

    • @ViXoZuDo
      @ViXoZuDo Рік тому +891

      @@kdot4879 I'm sure he could be pro in T1... it's just that he doesn't want to... it's a lot of work, and he's making way more as a streamer with an easier life.

    • @freightFPS
      @freightFPS Рік тому +497

      major MVP of the only NA major ever won in CS (a harder game mechanically and very similar fundamentally) while IGLing, tarik could easily go pro in this game

    • @mat.quantum2671
      @mat.quantum2671 Рік тому +51

      @@freightFPS he goes pro when he doesn’t roza for 3 days in a row

    • @freightFPS
      @freightFPS Рік тому +73

      @@mat.quantum2671 he goes pro when he chooses to join a team and actually plays in scrims and gets acclimated to teamplay again
      he won't do it though bc streaming makes him more money and it's a better lifestyle for him

  • @caykahve5869
    @caykahve5869 Рік тому +4487

    SEN are lowkey recruiting rank demons and they thought we wouldn’t notice but we did

    • @alecksjr
      @alecksjr Рік тому +87

      i think only TenZ is a ranked demon on sentinels lol

    • @waytun9608
      @waytun9608 Рік тому +233

      @@alecksjr sacy is actually really good 😭 I remember in zekken clip , zekken checked his account he was like match mvp every game when he was playing Brazil

    • @caykahve5869
      @caykahve5869 Рік тому +2

      @@alecksjr maybe but my comment was that they’re recruiting players lol

    • @aintcitrus6612
      @aintcitrus6612 Рік тому +105

      @@alecksjr Isn't Sacy the only player to be rank 1 in 3 different regions?

    • @warrior1563
      @warrior1563 Рік тому +7

      @@caykahve5869 I mean all the players recruited had tons of professional experience. U can say that TenZ and Sacy are ranked demons but the rest not so much.

  • @Olahragaaja
    @Olahragaaja Рік тому +1287

    Next Video = Why Spike Rush Demon Never Play VCT

    • @carllively4813
      @carllively4813 Рік тому +177

      It’s bc it would be too easy for spike rush demons. They need a REAL challenge. VCT too easy

    • @lucasgriffith6117
      @lucasgriffith6117 Рік тому +26

      perfectly described why I play spike rush. I need genuine challenge.

    • @Sg190th
      @Sg190th Рік тому +1

      I feel attacked

    • @jonny7444
      @jonny7444 Рік тому +3

      Swiftplay*

    • @notaguy3387
      @notaguy3387 Рік тому

      @@carllively4813 very true

  • @Natty11100
    @Natty11100 Рік тому +617

    I think one thing people forget is boredom, ranked isnt worth enough that people will play slow just to win 1 round but in franchising sometimes they play so slow just waiting for someone to make a mistake and capitalize on it, in ranked theyll run it down 2 v5 and sometimes get lucky

    • @woken5088
      @woken5088 3 місяці тому +1

      Idk why but I find that more fun than ranked

    • @beasthuntermohit567
      @beasthuntermohit567 3 місяці тому +6

      @@woken5088 It is because there are things at stake.

  • @youtuberyoutuber312
    @youtuberyoutuber312 Рік тому +1118

    Now Sen needs to win LCQ so i can regain some of my sanity and not lose my voice.

    • @vyk2low
      @vyk2low Рік тому +1

      lol sen sucks, aqui é favela caralho aspas top 1

    • @harmfull763
      @harmfull763 Рік тому

      107 likes and no replies lemme fix that real quick

    • @spicymilk2685
      @spicymilk2685 Рік тому

      i been! losin it

    • @KingKarim174
      @KingKarim174 Рік тому

      how didn’t you lose it when they lost year and somehow thought shroud would fix their problems

    • @yawn4290
      @yawn4290 Рік тому

      No wait this is so real

  • @clarysshow3253
    @clarysshow3253 Рік тому +482

    I used to play CS a lot back when I was like 15 or something. I hit global once or twice eventually end up being in a local team, played a lot of LANs, or ESLs overall the rank experience in CS GO is much different to those playing LAN events or tournaments in general. It just feel different, not the comms, not the people not the pressure, just the game itself feels different when you go out there and play for your team and not for yourself, you don't want to rank up or save your rank there, you want to fight for what you have, you don't make big decisions as it may screw up the team play, you stick to your role. Maybe I was a kid or something but I never felt the pressure, both in lan or in ranked CS GO. Although, the game does feel different somehow

    • @asdsad5059
      @asdsad5059 10 місяців тому +8

      you're right these guys are making huge cope tbh lmao 99% of "pros" cant even hit top rank or hang with top rank

    • @fuyuv_
      @fuyuv_ 10 місяців тому +53

      @@asdsad5059 ngl, pros are mostly pros because of how well they play with their set teammates, if someone left that team it could take a while to regain the team chemistry they once had, etc. it isnt cope when ranked in valorant is just a gamble most of the time. some people play better solo or duo (the people who are consistently top of the LBs, but cant play pro play) and some people play better with their team theyre comfortable with (the pros who cant reach the top of the LBs, but are insane with their team)

    • @artmanrom
      @artmanrom 9 місяців тому +1

      So "pro"- play takes your creativity away turning you in just a cog in a machine, that's not everyone is willingly to give away.

    • @hexrin5191
      @hexrin5191 8 місяців тому +15

      ​@@asdsad505999% of pros would literally take the top Radiant spots and never leave. These guys train strats, set plays and teamwork, scrim and in their off time whoop the people who dedicate themselves to the ranked grind. Imagine if they actually tryharded and went elo hungry lol. Literal slaughterfest.

    • @hexrin5191
      @hexrin5191 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@artmanromSticking to your role is not losing your creativity. For example, Nats' role might be to lurk but while he's lurking he isn't working off some rigid preset routine, he's constantly feeling out the enemy team, gathering info and going off instincts to make high risk-high reward plays all off his own individual playstyle. The only "constraint" is that he lurks not how he lurks. The freedom in these roles is very high and pro players constantly stretch these limits. If anything, high level pro Valorant is much norepinephrine creative than the autopiloting slugfest that is the ranked experience. Even a large amount of the strats you pull in your games are inspired from a pro player or coach who made those strats in the first place.

  • @SixhawkSix
    @SixhawkSix Рік тому +423

    "They're like a one trick"
    *Shows Dasnerths stats😂

    • @thegodkira3953
      @thegodkira3953 Рік тому +2

      Dasnerth is a pro now

    • @srinjansingharoy202
      @srinjansingharoy202 Рік тому +25

      ​@@thegodkira3953 no he isn't, he joined BRKA as a content creator

    • @mattsayer5623
      @mattsayer5623 Рік тому

      @@srinjansingharoy202 hes a player not content creator

    • @SixhawkSix
      @SixhawkSix Рік тому +4

      @@mattsayer5623 Bruh he literally has 100k followers on Twitch and 50k on UA-cam wdym he's not a content creator?

    • @yupthesesh
      @yupthesesh Рік тому +3

      @@SixhawkSix dasnerth got signed as a player not as a content creator. In reality hes both but the reason he is signed is to play competetive matches not produce content

  • @xandroid001
    @xandroid001 Рік тому +610

    I hope Riot can sponsor or own top teams from premiere. What stopping people from going pro is that not enough team that recruits. And what stopping from new team to be establish is money. Riot can do that for 1 or 2 teams.

    • @rodclarence4147
      @rodclarence4147 Рік тому +61

      That's so true, also, many teams doesn't recruit unpopular people even if their stats is on par with their current team. I saw a radiant player on a cheap computer cafe, he managed rose rank on radiant having 120 fps, cheapest low poi mice, keyboard and 60hz monitor, the guy was insane, shitting on radiant players who prolly have the best pc for valorant.

    • @cooldude32ism
      @cooldude32ism Рік тому +7

      Teams do have a way to go pro. They have to qualify for challengers. Then qualify for ascension. Then if they win ascension they are pro and play in the pro leagues.

    • @KricketGD
      @KricketGD 11 місяців тому +7

      @@cooldude32ism I think you misread what OP was saying. He said that most people don't have enough money to make a pro team happen.

    • @cooldude32ism
      @cooldude32ism 11 місяців тому +7

      @@KricketGD I didn’t misread. But no one is investing in players that haven’t proven themselves. How do you prove yourself? Take your premier team and go play in challengers qualifiers which is free.

    • @cooldude32ism
      @cooldude32ism 11 місяців тому +6

      You don’t have to have a professional org with money to qualify for challengers. Look at turtle troops. If your team wins ascension. Riot literally does what op described

  • @DKingFisher
    @DKingFisher 10 місяців тому +25

    One of the main reasons is, going pro requires so much time and focus on this game where you have to abandon a lot of things.

  • @toriberryy
    @toriberryy Рік тому +51

    really like this type of content, would love to see more info about this stuff!

  • @alecksjr
    @alecksjr Рік тому +97

    6:40 Sen casually roasting themselves

    • @free_microwave
      @free_microwave Рік тому +4

      nah that was a flex they like "pug type shit hella loses to long term strategized play but our team yeeted it anyway and shit on em"
      some og TSM shit

    • @alecksjr
      @alecksjr Рік тому +1

      @@free_microwave i took it as them saying "we dont scrim and practice as much as other teams leading to a pug type of playstyle in matches"

  • @l1ttleprotag370
    @l1ttleprotag370 11 місяців тому +80

    Perfect explanation for Tenzs CSGO career. Insane on ESEA but dropped the ball in pro play.

    • @PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii
      @PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii 5 місяців тому

      thats probably why he also had the best explanation out of the 3, because he understood the problems he had in csgo.
      He mentions how most of them are a 'one trick pony' and that it works in pugs because of lack of structure or use of proper utility, and he couldn't be more right.
      I do the same in FACEIT on CSGO, i always play whats more favorable to me, i got many shenanigan tricks that work wonders half the time and if i am VS a team that has better utility/structure it can sometimes backfire to 0% of my dumb strats working etc.
      As was mentioned in the video, them boring structure strats are proven statistically to win most of the time vs lucko one time tricks you do on pugs.
      I also follow a lot of these demons personally and its always funny to see them in PUGS doing so well. And the moment they sign up for LANS/tournaments to give it a go, they get shit on.
      Most recent one is the curent open qualifiers for the PGL in csgo. So funny to see all these top pug players attempting a team and losing so badly to actual teams XD.

  • @n1cotea
    @n1cotea Рік тому +146

    What i had seen is that playing in a Pro team or becoming a pro player has its own ups and downs. The benefit of playing Pro is that they have a much more patience than those who are just grinding rank. It also trains their mindset to become a IGL because of all the practice and hardwork. Its always put into how they gonna approach the situation TOGETHER. Many players just plays in their own mind and isolates themselves to the play. (Although i'm not a pro player nor i'm a rank demon. I'm just an ASC 1 player telling some facts to those who played the game but not fully understand it.)

    • @jokertm6889
      @jokertm6889 8 місяців тому

      From what I have seen is that most of time coordinating is hard and peoples just play for themselves even if u make selfless plays

  • @gametron1100
    @gametron1100 Рік тому +36

    2:00 one day bro is gonna go inside his monitor 💀

  • @Synaxxx
    @Synaxxx Рік тому +46

    our "good buddy" tarik 🙏

  • @butter_nut1817
    @butter_nut1817 Рік тому +10

    Another big difference is that comp players have different goals. Most people want to win but won't comm or throw team util. Other's just want to get kills or goof off. The amount of times I have heard teammates tell people to stop giving comms is crazy

  • @thezombieking8133
    @thezombieking8133 Рік тому +1

    I’m so glad someone finally addressed this topic

  • @Alex-jk9pq
    @Alex-jk9pq Рік тому +123

    I’ve always dreamed of having a pro team centre their entire team and play style on a Yoru main like Eggster. Maybe we’ll only ever see it with agents like Jett or prime chamber but I’ll still never lose hope lol

    • @globalgoofy
      @globalgoofy Рік тому +2

      that's PRX

    • @yutanox2798
      @yutanox2798 Рік тому +13

      I don't know who Eggster is, but the issue with Yoru is how predictable he becomes. Sure in ranked he works well enough for a few player to main him, but that's exactly why they are so good, because their are few of them. Just watch how Fnatic beat PRX on Bind last year to realise that. Boaster knew every single play that Forsaken was trying to pull of.

    • @Alex-jk9pq
      @Alex-jk9pq Рік тому

      @@yutanox2798 yea :/

    • @fuyuv_
      @fuyuv_ 10 місяців тому +1

      the problem with that is that is how much the meta changes per map. its impossible to play a certain team comp on some maps, because of how unfit that agent is to compete on that map. for example, omen can be really good on some maps, but lack behind really badly on others, so someone who is an omen main whos trying to go pro is not gonna be able to compete on some maps as well as for example someone who might be worse on omen, but can play all the other controllers really really well.

    • @fuyuv_
      @fuyuv_ 10 місяців тому

      i doubt that hypothetical team could even get to t2 pro play

  • @turtlelizard1531
    @turtlelizard1531 Рік тому +11

    The thing too is how ranked demons will have to analyze general opponent mistakes, and oft freestyle, whilst pros usually have coaches whom they get their communications from, which usually leads for a more specific and less broad approach, as you might study your enemy team rather than ranked who are playing against randoms.

    • @alancrome3684
      @alancrome3684 3 місяці тому

      Yeah and what's worse is you can't always rely on your randoms to be collecting good intel that you can use to form a plan lol so you really got to just wing it constantly.

  • @Lianouw
    @Lianouw Рік тому +1

    I looove these videos, and the editing is god tier

  • @jacobplayz3530
    @jacobplayz3530 Рік тому +5

    i hope players from challengers/even ppl from premier or sum arent like gatekeeped in the community bc they came from lower tier val, with the new system it should make getting into pro play easier to get ur name out there but teams better be willing to take time to develop ppl

  • @LOLMES45CR
    @LOLMES45CR Рік тому +2

    I love the content you're creating, amazing

  • @joshglez369
    @joshglez369 11 місяців тому +1

    This video is so valuable. Thank you!

  • @ParadoxAntz
    @ParadoxAntz Рік тому

    This was super helpful thank you

  • @apricity.1337
    @apricity.1337 Рік тому

    the graphics for this explainer video are incredible!

  • @Holyspiritrecieved
    @Holyspiritrecieved 9 місяців тому

    Major issue with these tactical games are the maps once mastered you can exploit every pixel. Esoecally left/right headglitches

  • @guptakunal2003
    @guptakunal2003 Рік тому +67

    Tenz vs Tarik. Lets Actually see them against each other, it would be hilarious.

    • @duitnaa2396
      @duitnaa2396 Рік тому +4

      Technically that did happen because Tarik tried out to replace tenz on the team but didn’t make it or smth

    • @geymseksion
      @geymseksion Рік тому

      ​@@duitnaa2396how did he try to?

    • @Mastergenius_
      @Mastergenius_ Рік тому +8

      @@duitnaa2396 you can't just take his words that seriously, he's always trolling

    • @Mastergenius_
      @Mastergenius_ Рік тому +1

      @@duitnaa2396 the only thing that is true is he joined them as a content creator and a sub

    • @SynergyHD
      @SynergyHD Рік тому +1

      ​@@duitnaa2396 tenz fanboys always knows how to make everyone laugh😂

  • @silversan9300
    @silversan9300 Рік тому

    this is s sick video great format

  • @aassassin
    @aassassin Рік тому +9

    6:58 You all forgot the most important step: Build connections. I don't know why you didn't include that but you can't be a pro if you don't have connections.

    • @johon127
      @johon127 2 місяці тому

      works like that for pretty much anything so that's a given

  • @miguelsealtiel2108
    @miguelsealtiel2108 Рік тому +7

    Rank Demons Vs. Pro Players.
    I want to see that!

  • @SpeedyTheGoddess
    @SpeedyTheGoddess 7 місяців тому +1

    Not that I'm ever likely to go pro, or even particularly likely to hit radiant lol, but i like to think that if I ever do, it helps that I main astra and already have to know what my team is doing (often just based on what it looks like they're about to do, in games where no one uses comms. Which is reasonably often since I'm only in gold one haha). But, I dont heve any site executes or protocols, because i either solo q or play with a friend or two.

  • @SnipFred
    @SnipFred 9 місяців тому +1

    This is a question I've always had when it comes to gamers, amazing video

  • @13Havoc
    @13Havoc 8 місяців тому +2

    tenz wearing fear of god is pretty cool

  • @EctoGamer
    @EctoGamer Рік тому +3

    I'm no pro player, but even 5 stacks are majorly different, I used to play league where ranked is a complete circus, even with 5 stack of friends, the games could have first blood in first 20 seconds (but usually around 1 minute mark) end with teams having 70 or even 150 kills in a game, where is in clash (leagues casual tournaments) with friends, where it's a 5v5 stack, the games could end with only 5 kills per team, first bloods only happening at 25 minute mark. It's vastly different

  • @holderian0
    @holderian0 10 місяців тому +8

    I think it's also because not everyone wants or can spend the time grinding 'proper' Valorant against structured teams. Making a living going pro in any game is really difficult, so for a lot of those ranked demons their job or other responsibilities gets in the way.

    • @360dog
      @360dog 10 місяців тому +4

      it basically takes over your entire life, new job playing a game you're good at. i doubt most ranked demons want to do that anyway, they just want to sit at home play valorant with themselves or friends, not go crazy on stages and have the pressure of a thousand fans behind you

  • @improvementchannel270
    @improvementchannel270 4 місяці тому +7

    Why would Tarik ever wanna go pro again when he makes 10x entire teams salary streaming

  • @alibekselpiev8301
    @alibekselpiev8301 4 дні тому

    just came back and if you look icy who is now on g2 was then a ranked demon but is now a pretty good player in tier 1.

  • @minhpp2852
    @minhpp2852 Рік тому +10

    The most basic explanation is the ENVIRONMENT is different. When playing rank, the pressure is not strong, players can play with a chill feelings or just try to beat the game as good as they can. However, in a tournament is a completely different story, the pressure is so much, if they lost, so the audience will blame them and else, so the different between PLAYING and COMPETING is a big gap.

  • @YadNeschla
    @YadNeschla 7 місяців тому

    The Premier mode is so good for that too. I love playing premier and i almost always play better than in ranked eventhough we are mostly playing against people in higher Ranks than me.

  • @joancasas9264
    @joancasas9264 10 місяців тому

    How the editor does that effect? It’s awsome. I mean the map-like thing with all the abilities.

  • @rrchy.
    @rrchy. Рік тому +22

    i love that zekken pointed out how it isnt hard to reach a pro lvl with aiming in valorant. its simply an easy aim game, much easier than any fps ive ever played. too many people think they're just gonna go grind dms and thn out aim everyone but there will be mid ascendant trashcans who have insane aim and thn people in my immortal 3/ radiant lobbies with the same aim that i had as a diamond.

    • @zorionzorion
      @zorionzorion 10 місяців тому +6

      I think you're looking at that wrong. They might have the same aim as you did in diamond, but that probably means that's what most responsible for your rank for you, aim. For them, they're the same rank as you, but if their aim is bad, then they have really good positioning, or util usage. They're your same level of skill, just for a different reason.

  • @machoD2
    @machoD2 11 місяців тому +2

    There’s a big scrim factor too. You can be t500 in ranked but if you don’t scrim, people won’t know who you are.

  • @soos.mpvier3187
    @soos.mpvier3187 2 місяці тому

    That difference is why i dont queue premiere anymore, only one of my friends wanted to play the teamgame...

  • @kenarnarayaka
    @kenarnarayaka Рік тому +12

    Demon1 is also an example of a ranked demon who became even better in pro

    • @Fc11124
      @Fc11124 Рік тому +1

      He claims he barely played ranked. & was just doing AM scrims and stuff

    • @kenarnarayaka
      @kenarnarayaka Рік тому

      @@Fc11124 oh seriously? Ignore my comment then

    • @kevoneh
      @kevoneh Рік тому +3

      @@kenarnarayaka nah his "barely played" still is at least 1k hrs lol

  • @lejayxox6828
    @lejayxox6828 11 місяців тому +4

    Tarik was the IGL in C9 when they won the major lmao

  • @kaitofv
    @kaitofv 2 місяці тому

    Haven’t played val in years, but this applies to majority of FPS games.
    Currently been t100 rank in Ow2 since Ow2, including peaking at #5. However I tend to lose a good chunk of scrims against former OWL players, who sometimes don’t even reach that t500 rank.
    The thing that often times separates a “rank demon” and a professional, usually boils down to game sense, team play, etc. essentially experience when playing.
    As most of the time, there isn’t a large mechanical difference between these kinds of players.

  • @Noizy-Edits
    @Noizy-Edits 9 місяців тому +1

    2:01 DAM! so close to the moniter

  • @FackerDroiid
    @FackerDroiid 2 місяці тому +1

    I want to see a 5radiant top vs sen

  • @lionblaze210
    @lionblaze210 Рік тому +13

    This is why I don’t worry about my kills all the time in ranked, I keep my options open to support my team and set them up for success, not get all the kills.
    The goal in winning is to plant the spike and let it blow to win, or the opposite, to defuse. Not get all the kills. But in standard ranked, people lose many rounds trying to find the last players and egoing to get kills, leaving one player to defend site over holding it strategically to win the round.

    • @pawlie3419
      @pawlie3419 10 місяців тому

      You are a small minority with a brain - 95% of monkeys playing can’t comprehend this concept.
      Frags/score determine skill to these apes and are more important than actually playing as a team with the main team objective of winning the round

    • @junoperberry
      @junoperberry 10 місяців тому +1

      Don't you automatically win if you kill everyone though

    • @rutherfordthebrave2516
      @rutherfordthebrave2516 8 місяців тому +3

      I know youre talking about val but I started doing the same in cs. They changed the scoreboard so it doesn't show the person with the most kills at the top anymore. It's who has the most damage which helps really shows your impact, but also shows who's baiting

  • @haroldtumala390
    @haroldtumala390 Рік тому +12

    try comparing tier 1 teams to tier 3 teams (close to ranked demons)
    there is a big difference in decision making, teamwork, and strategy. however, aim-wise are just close

    • @HaydenDom
      @HaydenDom Рік тому +2

      thats what zekken says in the video

    • @wimpymike
      @wimpymike Рік тому +2

      there's probably immortals with better aim than some pros

    • @JohnSmith-zk3kd
      @JohnSmith-zk3kd Рік тому +4

      @@wimpymike there's ascendants with better aim than some pros they just have the game sense of bronzes

  • @foopygoopy1860
    @foopygoopy1860 Рік тому +7

    No but this is true. This is video is a great highlight of the differences and its a reminder to myself that im not good to be pro, and never will be. Thats why id rather be an analyst. Because i watch these games, i look at the strats, the coordination, the mistakes that happen, why did G2 lose multiple 4v2? Well they played X and X positions which dont help each other, allowing multiple 1v1 fights or 1v2 in a short succession. Analyzing gameplay is my go to, its my fun thing to do when watching VCT. The difference is astounding. IGLing in ranked is miserable lmfao

    • @not_urmom8021
      @not_urmom8021 Рік тому +1

      you can of you really put yourself to it

  • @victormatautia1157
    @victormatautia1157 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s like the difference between playing a round of soccer at a park with a bunch of strangers vs the World Cup. Same game, only one side treats it like a game as the other treats it like a job

  • @iMakeMagicHappenn
    @iMakeMagicHappenn Рік тому +1

    is this a whole ad for premier?

  • @nlineofficial_
    @nlineofficial_ Рік тому +3

    bro pulled up Dasnerths tracker 1:29 LMAOOOOOOOO

  • @Kevvyn-
    @Kevvyn- 26 днів тому +1

    Icy ranked demon in intro went pro

  • @jjglaser
    @jjglaser 5 місяців тому +1

    You have to gel with a random team on the fly, vs practiced teamwork with the same players.

  • @azkplex2301
    @azkplex2301 9 місяців тому

    you should make a video ascendant ranked players with no strats vs pro players

  • @abdulmubdibindar9932
    @abdulmubdibindar9932 11 місяців тому

    5:31 this exact footage is what sets Sentinels content team apart from the other orgs'

  • @Cavaleria52
    @Cavaleria52 Рік тому +2

    Next Video: ranked demons vs pro team 5v5

  • @soufianeelbrahli8627
    @soufianeelbrahli8627 Рік тому +2

    Now i understand why sentinels became a ranked team after iceland

  • @nathanialwashere2404
    @nathanialwashere2404 9 місяців тому +1

    Play a game with no structure but the enemy team doesn't know to confuse them

  • @addictedow9551
    @addictedow9551 11 місяців тому +1

    Something they didnt mention is that so eonme can be high on the leaderboard and NOT want to go pro. In overwatch i have been t500 for a few years now but i am at a point in life now where i have a full time job and barely have enough time or energy to play so i just play to maintain my t500 position.

  • @projectgg6730
    @projectgg6730 8 місяців тому +1

    Back when halo reach was absolutely popping off I played in a team and competed in smaller LAN tournaments. And whenever I played with friends in random public lobbies they'd always talk so much shit when I did bad or was just playing casually. like "omg mr pro over here is gettin gcarried" (it didn't help that was a cocky teen at the time 😅) but honestly people just play differently when they don't have a reason to win. And going from scrims to that is almost like a culture shock at times.

  • @honorabilis1
    @honorabilis1 2 місяці тому

    lets see the top 5 not in team play these be a good watch

  • @chicken5038
    @chicken5038 Місяць тому

    I had a friend who was top tier hitting max radiant 17. The reason he never went pro is just it was too much work for him. He was on a few rank 2 and 3 teams and did scrim against a lot of other rank 2 and 3 but he kind of hit a block of just getting bounced around by teams and kinda just gave up ontop of that he is also in high school so it just took up all of his personal time.

  • @iamallen4974
    @iamallen4974 Рік тому +2

    Its like comparing Pro Panna Footballers, to Pro Footballers. Pro Panna players in niche situations can manhandle a team, but put them in a league like Premier or LaLiga, where the competition is insanely high, the Panna players would crumble down on pressure.
    Sometimes they dont, not telling all do, example is Neymar (he isnt exactly a Pro Panna Player, but you get the point).
    Its the same with Pro Ranked and Pro Players themselves, without the experience it is just very hard for the Pro Ranked players.

    • @Cxrn_zzz
      @Cxrn_zzz 2 місяці тому

      This is a very good comparison

  • @justaperson8852
    @justaperson8852 Рік тому +8

    The problem in Valorant is that duelists generally get more rr than support players. Most of your round score comes from kills, and if you play breach or controllers, you don't have the utility support to get kills. All you can do is to help your teammates, and now you are 9/12/999, and your duelist flames you for not doing anything. Now, the game ends. How much rr do you get? Maybe 15? How much does your Reyna get? 30. Riot should make assists worth much more for controller and initiator players. Controllers are the most valuable agents in the game, so why does riot punish those who play them?

  • @imnoblueberry8502
    @imnoblueberry8502 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m trying to get better at a game called breakpoint, it has a surprisingly good pvp, and would like to run a team there with some solid strategies and structure, but there aren’t that many good players playing anymore, so it’s difficult to find good matches and people to practice against. Any ideas?

  • @Noorullah1
    @Noorullah1 Рік тому +1

    I'm not much of a Valorant player, however this is definitely true in other games. A person who is high on the ranking leaderboards have the skills to climb rank, but haven't hone the skills needed to compete in a "structured" team.

    • @Tuh_qh90
      @Tuh_qh90 9 місяців тому +1

      or you can say didnt get he opportunity

  • @rockybooboo
    @rockybooboo 3 місяці тому

    The challenging aspect of being an igl is that if you're not consistently performing well or topfragging in one game, some teammates may ignore your calls/comms or input entirely.

  • @IGRISfps4716
    @IGRISfps4716 Рік тому +1

    so i just saw a pro radiant guy other day he was streaming on yt he just had like 5 subs now he stopped streaming now i cannot find him

  • @ashenro
    @ashenro Рік тому +1

    Bro thought we wouldnt recognize tarik in the thumbnail 💀💀💀

  • @chandlerwendt6328
    @chandlerwendt6328 11 місяців тому

    I'm a ranked demon and I've never got the chance to try out

  • @ByrdBot
    @ByrdBot 5 місяців тому

    Idk how they managed to stretch the simple answer of "teamwork" into an 8 minute video, very impressive!

  • @Redyf
    @Redyf Рік тому

    Loud Less: "Are you sure about that?

  • @kentharris1820
    @kentharris1820 4 місяці тому

    I watched this even though I dont play val but this is good info for any game for going pro

  • @alancrome3684
    @alancrome3684 3 місяці тому

    Yeah when I understood this it kinda killed my drive to climb ranked ladders. I'd rather play with a group of friends and get good teamplay than focus on my rank so much. But, it hinders me when I wanna go solo que or duo. I am un-able to put things together with randoms or set my self up super well.

  • @MegaHakim1999
    @MegaHakim1999 Рік тому +76

    Let's be real, networking is what makes you go pro, if you don't know people that know people, you're not going pro, very simple, but the people who know people that end being pro are still cracked so it's not a huge huge deal esports wise, but definitely discouraging for players who grind which ultimately means less talent to be able to shine for the world to see.

    • @juancarlos3653
      @juancarlos3653 Рік тому +29

      That's sadly how the world works, this is why you can have politicians and people running governments and companies even if they are truly incompetent themselves. Their money and networking makes them privileged and invulnerable to the rules.

    • @wumboTK
      @wumboTK 11 місяців тому +6

      100%, having a big name exponentially increases your chances of being on a pro team

    • @user-vc5qg6we3v
      @user-vc5qg6we3v 11 місяців тому +12

      Yes. Ranked demons can easily adapt to pro environment. Its really the networking

    • @pawlie3419
      @pawlie3419 10 місяців тому +3

      As someone previously ‘semi-pro’/verge of pro cs 1.6, I can vouch.
      You can be the best player in the world, but unless you’re ‘known’ by top tier players, you aren’t going pro.

    • @fuyuv_
      @fuyuv_ 10 місяців тому +1

      i disagree. if u can prove to teams that are looking for players that u deserve a spot, and that u have good chemistry with the other players, u will most likely get on the team rather than someone who is well known, slightly worse, and has bad chemistry. pro play imo, is just proving urself to people that u could do well in that said pro scene. to me its mostly just letting ur gameplay speak and proving u are worth the time and commitment.

  • @roguetoes
    @roguetoes 5 місяців тому

    thumbnail is hilarious bc Tarik has accomplished more in the professional fps scene than Tenz ever will.

  • @ZachareSylvestre
    @ZachareSylvestre Рік тому +1

    A simpler explanation is that pros are used to going against one way that other pros think. They have fine-tuned play against those specific types of people that they follow those specific rules and it looks so smooth because both teams have the same kind of thinking.
    Ranked play, is much more chaotic. These pros talk game sense, except the very PUGs that they play, their own game sense goes out the window because they aren't used to the chaos of enemy teams, and the high risk moves. While the pros can deal with it, they end up panicking just like other players because they definitely aren't used to playing outside of their ecosystem.
    This is also why its *very* difficult for a player to advance up to a "higher" pro bracket: even the sectioned off "lower" brackets end up generating their own ecosystem of tactics and strategies.

  • @dulatkarakushev4229
    @dulatkarakushev4229 Рік тому +41

    You know, it's kinda hard to implement things that you learnt from watching pro teams play. I am more DRX fan, and at one point of time i coordinated my game too much into team, so in just a week i lost around 30 games and won only 4 or 5. Now i just turned off my micro, and controversially started to climb up again. Therefore comp games and pro scene, definitely two different entities. Don't be too insisted on copying play style of your fav team, invest more in your abilities to come out of various in game crisises, it certainly will help you to climb up and to challenge yourself in more pro game inclined events

    • @thejessicalan
      @thejessicalan Рік тому +3

      i feel like it’s implied that set strats are meant for if you consistently play in a 5 stack

    • @NB-zs1tz
      @NB-zs1tz Рік тому +2

      Duh ur supposed to study how they use their abilities and gamesense and also theyre teams have comms

    • @Rncko
      @Rncko Рік тому

      Your experience is literally what used to be called
      "A bunch of friends vs Blind Pubs" --> both team plays completely different game in same match. (whether it is moba or fps)
      A bunch of friends usually play typical "Power Ranger Style" where you all just group and rush/gank the isolated enemy over and over again. Surprisingly it can works even when enemy has smurfs. (cuz that 1 smurf ain't much if the rest of their team crumbles)

    • @Malam_NightYoru
      @Malam_NightYoru Рік тому +1

      This is why valorant, in a tactical level, will never be something really tactical. The game sucks as a tactical shooter. I would argue even CS is more tactical

  • @muslimchad6267
    @muslimchad6267 10 місяців тому

    2:00 bro is sniffing his targets

  • @ttvhero1890
    @ttvhero1890 Рік тому

    In short ranked is individual for the most part and pro play is team

  • @connerastrader
    @connerastrader 20 днів тому +1

    Crazy after g2 make shangai I see icy on there 😂😂

  • @chan_for
    @chan_for Рік тому

    watching n0thing stream is equivalent to watching Pros decision making & calls

  • @shinkouhai919
    @shinkouhai919 Рік тому +1

    ....as hiko said, most people dont want to play support, and the thing is because there is no obligation of winning, toxic and throws, trolls just become a Normal thing to face in ranked games.

  • @RexusEdits
    @RexusEdits 4 місяці тому

    personally i think most ranked demons arent used to work as a team or dont follow a certain strategy which is very important for a esports

  • @watashiwasmartphonega6601
    @watashiwasmartphonega6601 Рік тому +4

    They forgot to say the simplest reason, maybe some of these ranked demons just didn't want it lmao.

  • @drmoss6950
    @drmoss6950 Рік тому +9

    No shot you put Demon1 as a rank demon example.

    • @genn8062
      @genn8062 Рік тому

      Im pretty sure they put him as a ranked demon who put in the time and effort to go pro and had success

    • @Reyna-hk9tu
      @Reyna-hk9tu Рік тому

      Demon1 is VCT demon bro. The next diablo. The guys himself started that i don't even play ranked too much. Only had 200 hours when we was signed for EG. Guys out of league

    • @drmoss6950
      @drmoss6950 Рік тому

      @@genn8062 He doesn't have many hours in ranked...

    • @itsAvient
      @itsAvient Рік тому

      to be fair, this Americas league was his debut, so until literally a month ago, he was a ranked demon

    • @drmoss6950
      @drmoss6950 Рік тому

      @@itsAvient No, he was active in other tier tournaments. He had almost no hours in ranked.

  • @primal9238
    @primal9238 Рік тому +3

    What's the difference between Rank Demons and Pro Players? Pro players have coaches and resources pumped into their training. They also play over and over and over with the same team. Really doesn't seem like much of a barrier -- just a lack of opportunity. Sure there's options for people if they want to take it seriously... but it's just a hard field to get into to. Especially when Esports is not doing well as a whole.

  • @Banane-ql5vw
    @Banane-ql5vw 10 місяців тому

    I am a Killjoy main because i like to make setups and just holding a site i dont wont to run on side and Kill all guys on side

  • @Yuniliel
    @Yuniliel 5 місяців тому

    Sen is literally into the game, look how close he is from the monitor like just 5cm away...

  • @dabyss2481
    @dabyss2481 11 місяців тому

    2:00 bro looks like hes gonna eat the dam monitor

  • @gigachadcat3239
    @gigachadcat3239 Рік тому

    how do you go from Ranked demon to A pro like how do you get expiriance to get on team?

  • @Djego2001
    @Djego2001 Рік тому

    on the other hand there are some pro teams who picks up ranked demons and make it work like PRX

  • @Klaws_TTV
    @Klaws_TTV Рік тому +7

    Man I wished this video existed for my school team. At first our team was made up of 1 high Imortal, 3 high plat to low diamond, and me a silver and it was great. We won in the NECC Emergents Division as first seed and got to play in nationals. In a year later we made a new team it was made of people almost completely new to the pro play scenes. The team was made up of 1 high diamond low Immortal, 2 gold, 1 silver(me still), and 1 bronze player. This team only lasted about a semester of school. By the spring no one on the team wanted to play. I felt that the new team didn't have the discipline or patience that is required for a ameture pro player. Almost everyone, including me, was treating the game as if it was a ranked game. By the time the season ended we didn't even qualified for regionals. In my eyes this video is perfect to show to struggling new ameture pro teams that have a hard time in transitioning from the ranked scene to the pro scene.

    • @BbCslayer123
      @BbCslayer123 Рік тому +13

      dude u got a silver in pro team its not gonne work

    • @Klaws_TTV
      @Klaws_TTV Рік тому +3

      @@BbCslayer123 at first it didn't but I started to improve. Just didn't play ranked is all.

    • @samuellinn
      @samuellinn 11 місяців тому +2

      Im surprised you got in. How did you keep up?

    • @Klaws_TTV
      @Klaws_TTV 11 місяців тому +1

      @@samuellinn repeated practice with the team and just practicing how to playin a pro scene

  • @NearOnVAL
    @NearOnVAL Рік тому

    PRX be like: "Hold my...just hold someting"

  • @AlexNY999
    @AlexNY999 21 день тому

    So am i doing it wrong to start as a one trick as a beginner ? (I started with sage)

  • @Forsxk3n
    @Forsxk3n Рік тому

    the demon 1 clipss

  • @kalikeliihoomalu1661
    @kalikeliihoomalu1661 Рік тому

    2:01 that is CRAZY😂. What he doin there?