Threezero Robo-Dou Robotech VF-1J Veritech Rick Hunter- Is it worth your collecting money?

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  • @Echowhiskeyone
    @Echowhiskeyone 2 місяці тому +3

    Just got my VF-1J today. Surprisingly nice, I like it. Now pre-ordering the VF-1S. To me, it is well worth it.

  • @TheToyOdyssey
    @TheToyOdyssey 2 місяці тому +3

    I'm not surprised. Threezero makes incredible toys.

  • @alastairmurray5061
    @alastairmurray5061 3 місяці тому +3

    Fantastic comparison video, gave me everything I wanted to know when comparing.😀

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the post, and very glad it could help. Happy collecting!

  • @theemptyworld8
    @theemptyworld8 2 місяці тому +2

    I've had this preordered for what seems like years, can't wait to get it. I also have a kitzconcept vf-1s and it's trash. The ONLY thing it has going for it is it "looks" decent. Just don't try to touch or transform it!

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  2 місяці тому +1

      Couldn't agree more! It would be nice if Kitzconcept re-engineered their designs for better tolerances and playability. If they did, they could potentially have the best bang for the buck. Thanks, and happy collecting!

  • @mattcarper9853
    @mattcarper9853 3 місяці тому +2

    It's always Macross to me, but I can set that aside. I pre ordered a VF 1S already. Waiting to see how Fast Packs are done

  • @DannyDuczeminskyj
    @DannyDuczeminskyj 4 місяці тому +1

    I would just like to say that I really appreciate your video comparison. It helped me pull the trigger on ordering one. You do a really good job focusing on each figure. Subbed!

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! Compliments make the world go round. I'm truly happy that you pulled that trigger. Once you have it in hand you'll really appreciate all the attention and passion that Threezero invested into this project. Happy collecting, brother!

  • @TheQuikMix
    @TheQuikMix 4 місяці тому +1

    REALLY happy to hear that this was a good one. I was worried about the long delay that these experienced.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      I can understand the concern, but luckily for us, this VF-1J was totally worth the wait! Thanks for the post, and happy collecting!

  • @tungvu
    @tungvu 4 місяці тому +1

    Grew up with Robotech. Being new to this, I appreciate learning about the various brands and model lineups. I like the Threezero version.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      Welcome to best way to get your nostalgic fix. I also find that Threezero is becoming my preferred fix for the Valkyrie/Veritech fighter. Thanks for the comment, and happy collecting!

  • @lemelstudio
    @lemelstudio 2 місяці тому +1

    Just to clarify, in this video he has a 1.0 version of the Kitzconcept Valkyrie. The 2.0 versions have a completely updated sculpt which is improved and much, much better. Unfortunately many collectors don't realize this, and gave up on the line after the first release. I personally like the surface detail on the Kitzconcepts best. The Bandai DX does a few things better (the elbow, design for one), but it's a tough choice between Bandai and Threezero (except for the size, of course). I prefer Threezero's lower leg sculpt, as they are a bit more rounded. The Threezero has hard black anime panel lines, even though the lines are already scribed. All in all, I agree with the review of the Threezero: it is extremely well done for the price. It's also surprisingly heavy due to the amount of metal in the internal structure. The construction quality seems really high. I think a lot of people slept on this one and might regret it later.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the post. I couldn't agree with you more about the Threezero. You're also right about, personally speaking, collectors giving up on the Kitzconcept. However, I think that with Threezero in the mix, Kitzconcept should focus on the other two Robotech series and maybe develop the mechs to compliment the action figures they have for Southern Cross and Mospeada(future releases).
      Thanks again!

    • @99nessuno99
      @99nessuno99 2 місяці тому

      @@lemelstudio the threeZero has a defect on the elbows articulation. Why nobody notice it?

  • @fangchern691
    @fangchern691 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your reviews. Can I check are all the white areas painted or just bare plastic?

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for the kind comment. Regarding the white paint on the VF-1J, it honestly looks like there is paint on most of the visible areas. I wish I could be more precise for you, but Threezero applies a clear matte/satin finish to the model. This finish really makes it look like there's paint on the surface. If you've built Gundam kits and sprayed a matte clear coat on bare plastic, you'll know what I mean. Regardless, this Threezero has a very clean and polished finish, along with sharp tampographics and printing. It all comes together to give you the best finish out of all the readily available products. Thanks again, and happy collecting!

  • @jonathanchin3396
    @jonathanchin3396 5 місяців тому +1

    I love this video, thank you for posting it, you get a real sense of all of the iterations in all different scales of the VF-1 that have been released over the years!
    The DX is the creme de la creme but the ThreeZero is a very worthy alternative, especially if you find the aftermarket prices of the DX, and even the Yamatos/Arcadias, disagreeable and the Hi-Metals too small.
    Don't even bother with the KC, even though the human figures look alright.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. I'm glad you liked it, Jonathan. I've got to tell you, the more I mess around with this Threezero, the more I hope that they make all the key mechs from every Robotech series. I'd be in nerd heaven, brother! Thanks again, and happy collecting.

    • @jonathanchin3396
      @jonathanchin3396 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cesardavis8700 Thanks, Cesar, Roy Fokker has gone up for PO and prototypes for Max and Milia have been shown over the last year.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 4 місяці тому

      @@cesardavis8700 I'm hoping we get some Zentraedi and Invid from them. Invid mechs with Threezero engineering would be amazing.

  • @Doiboy35
    @Doiboy35 4 місяці тому +1

    As someone who only got into Macross relatively recently, I have been looking for a good Valkyrie (or Veritech) figure. The only thing that is keeping me from pulling the trigger on buying the Three Zero version is if it is possible to have the robot mode without the gap fillers? I've heard mixed responses to this question.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for the post. The short answer is yes. You can have it in Battroid mode without the gap fillers, and it will hold just fine. The real question is why would you not use the filler? It really helps to finish the look, plus they're already included with the package. It's just another option for you, and options are a good thing in this case. Threezero put just as much attention to the accessories, as the main figure. Come to the dark side, young padawan. You'll appreciate the whole package! Thanks again, and happy collecting!!

    • @Doiboy35
      @Doiboy35 4 місяці тому +1

      @@cesardavis8700 Thank you for the response. I'm kind of a klutz so for a figure as pricey as this (still a great value compared to other similar figures, but still relatively expensive) I would be paranoid of losing pieces especially if they are integral to the transformation (same reason why I probably won't get the Bandai HG Macross kits). So if the gap fillers aren't necessary, for my own peace of mind, I would probably keep them in the box and only pull them out for photography or the odd stop motion. I mean, looking at the original Takatoku figure I personally don't mind the gap, and I imagine the Three Zero figure's gap would look similar if not better.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      You bring up excellent points that I failed to consider. In terms of the gap, the Threezero, like the Bandai DX, has a wider side profile in the upper torso. This makes it more visually disruptive. You can look at the Bandai DX in the video and see what it looks like without the fillers in place. The Takatoku has a considerably slimmer profile, and is not as distasteful. I think we, as collectors, also tend to look at vintage figures through very nostalgic lenses, if you know what I mean. Regardless of my rambling, that option is there for your choosing with the Threezero. Hope this helps your decision. Thanks again.

  • @drewlovelyhell4892
    @drewlovelyhell4892 4 місяці тому +1

    Finally a review in English!
    I've only hear good things about ThreeZero products, so I wasn't too worried.
    I passed on the VF-1J, because I assumed they would make a VF-1S. Hoping they'll make Super/Strike parts available soon. Probably don't need the GBP armour, since I have the Yamato 1/48 version.
    Hope ThreeZero make some Destroids too.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment. So far, I've had an excellent experience with the Threezero VF-1J, and I can't wait for their future releases. Once you have them in hand, you can't help but feel the passion and attention to detail that Threezero put into this VF-1J! Do yourself a favor and get one while they're still available for retail price. Thanks again, and happy collecting!!

    • @drewlovelyhell4892
      @drewlovelyhell4892 4 місяці тому +1

      @@cesardavis8700 I have the VF-1S on preorder. I keep missing out on the Bandai versions (Hi-Metal-R or DX Chogokin), so I've wanted that particular one for ages.
      Shame ThreeZero only have the Robotech license, otherwise they might be able to do other Macross mecha like the VF11, YF-21, etc.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      @@drewlovelyhell4892 I totally sympathize with you. Hopefully the legal resolution between Harmony Gold and Bigwest will free up the marketing and distribution of all Macross merchandise.

  • @adamreed31
    @adamreed31 2 місяці тому +1

    Tough to tell from the vid. How much taller(robot mode) or longer (fighter mode) is the threezero compared to v2 vf yamato or arcadia? Same size?

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  2 місяці тому +1

      @@adamreed31 the difference in size is minimal, so you could possibly display them together. The big difference is the execution of the design. Yamato's design is definitely more linear and angular, where Threezero's take seems more bloated or rounded like in the animation. The other huge difference is the finish. Yamato/Arcadia has an opaque plastic look to its surface, where Threezero has a semi-gloss painted finish throughout. If you painted the Yamato's surface in a similar way to Threezero's version, I think you could definitely make it work in a display. Thanks again.

    • @adamreed31
      @adamreed31 2 місяці тому

      Thank u!! ​@@cesardavis8700

  • @flanker517
    @flanker517 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi Cesar great informative video. I was wondering how this three zero compares to the bandi products. I am looking forward for the VF1S release! -Frank

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for the post. To answer your question, I would first consider a few factors. Mainly budget and space. If you have the luxury of that not being a consideration, then I would buy both lines. If you do have to take both factors into consideration, then definitely go with the Threezero. It's also great to be able to get in on the ground floor, as they say. Thanks again, and happy collecting!!

  • @PavelQuijanoOno
    @PavelQuijanoOno 4 місяці тому +1

    good video, is the quality of the plastic good? Bandai and Arcadia use thin plastic, does this Threezero figure use thicker plastic?
    Is it made of real ABS plastic? What is its resistance?

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      @@PavelQuijanoOno the plastic is definitely ABS. So far it's held up extremely well, and most importantly does not feel brittle when handling. I'm not sure about the comparison between Bandai/Arcadia because I feel that Bandai uses better materials than most other manufacturers. I personally haven't had any problems with the Bandai DX line, where the Yamato/Arcadia pieces have had cracking, breaking, and yellowing. If I where to rank all the manufacturers of Robotech/Macross mecha presently, Bandai and Threezero would be top two. All other manufacturers are inferior in quality and engineering, with Toynami and Kidzconcept being the worst. Hope that helps.
      Thanks, and happy collecting!!

    • @PavelQuijanoOno
      @PavelQuijanoOno 4 місяці тому

      ​@@cesardavis8700Thanks for the information, I have a few Macross figures: VF25S Osma from 2008 Bandai DX, it is made entirely of ABS plastic, it is very solid and durable, although it is old, YF-19 Arcadia 2022, thin plastic, that's why I bought the YF- 19 Bandai DX 2024, thinking it would be better, it turns out that it also has thin plastic, of both YF-19 Arcadia is more solid and heavier, it has more metal, although YF-19 Bandai DX is more modern, it has improvements, it sounds a little Brittle, although it will not break if treated with care, I will not buy YF-21 Bandai DX has even more problems. It's good to share information, thanks and happy collecting!!

  • @pdean75
    @pdean75 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks. Great comparison vid. Looks slightly shorter than the yamato 1/60 V2 so I think it is approximately the same height as the yamato 1/60 Version 1

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for the comment. You might be correct about your assessment. My version 1 Yamato can't hold a standing pose anymore. Regardless, next to the Threezero it just looks dated and basic. Yamato's version 2 was much more sophisticated in looks and engineering. Threezero's product is so much more accessible than Yamato ever was. I still remember the anxiety and fomo when a new model was announced in the Japanese toy/model magazines. Most of their releases were Asian markets only.

  • @reganlau5094
    @reganlau5094 3 місяці тому +1

    Would have been nice to have the Toynami Masterpiece version in there for comparison.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment. I tell you what, when Threezero releases their VF-1S Focker edition, I will dig out every single iteration that's worth comparing. Not that I mean the Toynami Masterpiece doesn't merit a comparison, it's just that I have to get them out of my storage. Happy collecting!!

  • @errorGOT
    @errorGOT 5 місяців тому +1

    ncie collection bro !! I have one when I was little, but I forget which version or maker

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the comment. If you get the chance to get this collectible, you'll be ecstatic!

  • @JoseSanchez-rw2gn
    @JoseSanchez-rw2gn 4 місяці тому +1

    Yo lo veo igual al de Kitz Concept pero con una mejora en el esqueleto. Ambas figuras se ven a un precio similar en Aliexpress. Faltó comparar el mismo robot.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for the comment. You make an interesting observation, but they actually feel very different in hand. The Kitzconcept feels fragile, and is quite brittle around the areas where die-cast meets ABS plastic. It is also smaller in comparison with the Threezero. The Kitzconcept is 1/72 scale versus 1/60, give or take, for Threezero. The transformation is also quite fiddly when manipulating, where the Threezero had the benefit of seeing and handling all the preceeding offerings from other manufacturers. I'm positive they took the best, and improved on most of the competition's shortcomings. In short, the Threezero is the superior product. If you can still find it for a good price, you won't regret it. Hope that helps.
      By the way, when the Threezero VF-1S is released I'll do a huge comparison video. I will also rank all of the commercially produced Roy Focker Valkyries.
      Thanks again, and happy collecting!!

  • @malcolmar
    @malcolmar 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for the comparison. I was waiting for something like this. I too am an old school ROBOTECH fan. Thanks again for the comparison.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the comment. I hope you get a chance to add this piece to your collection. You'll be reminiscing about the good old days in no time!

    • @malcolmar
      @malcolmar 5 місяців тому +2

      @@cesardavis8700 Thanks. Too bad about the Kid's Logic Veritech. Thanks for the update. Still sad I missed out on the Bandai DX version but hopefully I can go all in with the Threezero offerings. I also hope they make Battle Pods and I really hope we see some Hovertanks.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  5 місяців тому

      ​@@malcolmarDuuude!! I just imagined every key mech from each generation being produced by Threezero. Take my credit card, please!

  • @99nessuno99
    @99nessuno99 4 місяці тому +1

    Is it bigger than the Yamato or smaller?

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому

      @@99nessuno99 thanks for the post. Per your question, the Yamato is ever so slightly taller. If you were to display them on the same shelf, I personally feel that you could make them work together visually. The Threezero is however, more sophisticated in its surface detail and finishing. You might have to add some detail and panel lining to the Yamato/Arcadia to make them mesh well with the Threezero. Hope that helps. Thanks, and happy collecting!

  • @josemagsajo
    @josemagsajo 4 місяці тому +2

    Threezero should have made this a 1/48 or bigger scale

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the comment. I think that would be a cool idea in theory, though I wonder how it would affect the price and accessibility. Not to mention the fact that Bandai has an established 1/48 scale that more than measures up to many collectors' expectations. Thanks again, and happy collecting!

    • @jennyc7543
      @jennyc7543 4 місяці тому +1

      Also to note, scale isn’t everything. Yamato had released VF-1 toys in both the 1/48 and 1/60 scale, and for the longest time, up until Bandai’s DX, their 1/60 releases were considered the best VF-1 toys made, even better than the Yamato 1/48.

  • @panzergrenadier2946
    @panzergrenadier2946 4 місяці тому +1

    Shame though that Threezero doesn't make any battlepods.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      Too true, my friend!! Let's hope that it makes financial sense to them in the future of their line. Bandai seemed to have done well with their 1/100 battlepods. Thanks for the post, and happy collecting!!

  • @99nessuno99
    @99nessuno99 3 місяці тому +1

    I made a video to explain the issue in my channel

  • @THERoflberryPwncakes
    @THERoflberryPwncakes 2 місяці тому +1

    Doesn't seem to have a greater range of motion than the Hasegawa stand alone Battroid

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the post. In all honesty, I've not had the opportunity to build any version of these mechs, so I'll take your word for it. That being said, I would not typically compare model kits to action figure collectibles. The tolerances and plastic densities are so different in either product because of their respective intended purposes. Regardless, thanks for commenting, and teaching me something new! Happy collecting, and building, too!!

  • @natives602CC
    @natives602CC 4 місяці тому +1

    Too bad he's not the height of the DX that's the only thing that's holding me back.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the post. I agree with you, but in case you were looking for a shelf-space-friendly version with all the engineering plus exquisite finishing. You can't go wrong with the Threezero. Happy collecting, brother!!

    • @natives602CC
      @natives602CC 4 місяці тому +1

      @cesardavis8700 Most of my collections are 1/6 scale figures. I can see he's like a compact size for shelves. Lol

    • @natives602CC
      @natives602CC 4 місяці тому

      @@cesardavis8700 I went and pre ordered mine LOL

  • @99nessuno99
    @99nessuno99 3 місяці тому +1

    Please explain to me how a reviewer like you cannot notice a manufacture defect as the elbow piece STUCK inside the forearm. This piece should move (as it's shown in the pictures in the box) but it cannot. All copies of this toy seems to have this defect. DO NOT BUY It. If at least ONE of UA-cam reviewers had noticed that I would have not bought this fucking toy, now THREEZERO ask to send the toy to them in Hong Kong (I'm in Italy!!) at my own expenses!

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  3 місяці тому

      I feel your pain, brother!! I also had QC issues with their Voltron release. They initially made it pretty hard to resolve the situation, but Threezero did come through and sent me a whole new sample.
      I'm sorry for your issue. However, my copy did not have this dilemma. Articulation of the arm and elbow joints is fine and smooth. Another acquaintance also purchased this piece, and has not had any issue with articulation. The only minor complaint that's developed in the time I've posed it around on my shelf is the waist swivel. It seems that it is getting a little loose. Regardless, you can't hate the company for not wanting to eat the cost of shipping. They're still willing to fix the issue. Best of luck with this issue, and post a video about your problem. You might help someone else with a similar problem.

    • @99nessuno99
      @99nessuno99 3 місяці тому

      @@cesardavis8700 i made a video on my channel to explain

    • @lemelstudio
      @lemelstudio 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cesardavis8700 I can confirm that mine also has this elbow 'defect', and every review video I've seen so far shows the same defect. it's hard to see in your video, but I think yours has it too from what I can see.

    • @cesardavis8700
      @cesardavis8700  2 місяці тому

      Yes, it does have this defect. I had already confirmed this on the original poster's video. It does not however, affect articulation in the least. I chalk it up to prototype photography being used for the packaging.

    • @99nessuno99
      @99nessuno99 2 місяці тому +1

      @@cesardavis8700 it doesn't affect articulation in movements but aesthetically it affects it a lot! It looks horrible. It is absolutely evident to me that that articulation piece, which is die-cast, was intended to rotate exactly like in the Bandai Dx but they made a design mistake and the thin part that should be the SECOND point of rotation of the elbows actually works as well as first point of rotation because it is too long. So it doesn't put pressure on the die-cast part that cannot rotate simply bending the arm and you cannot grasp it because it is almost completely inside the forearm and there is no place to find a hold and pull the part somehow. Now i don't know if they decided to glue the die-cast part inside the forearm plastic parts or if it is simply stuck, i asked them and they don't give me an answer. Anyway after i explained with emails, pictures and the videoclip to them what was the issue i was referring to (and they told me to send it to them for fixing) they wrote back to me, after receiving the object (i spent 43€ for shipping) , that there is no issue and that the box pictures where intended to be "a prototype" and that the actual toy is different from those pictures. I became furious and they decided to send back to me another new toy more with my old one. They say they are going to release a new batch of the vf-1j in October and they will send one to me. It's not clear if the new batch has that defect corrected or if it's identical. In my opinion the issue could be corrected simply if you could glue the thin articulation plastic part to the die-cast part so that the die-cast part would force to move and the thin joint part would work only as second rotation point as it was certainly designed from the beginning. But if the die-cast part has been glued to the inside of the forearm and you glue the thin part inside the die-cast part you would block the first rotation point of the articulation ruining the toy.... I hope I wrote it clearly