Streamers Thoughts on Hal & Verhulst Drama
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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/ tsm_reps
/ zer0
/ iitztimmy
/ albralelie
Time Stamps:
00:00 Reps
00:17 Zer0
01:23 IiTzTimmy
05:43 Albralelie - Ігри
i wish we all had the reps attitude
reps is that one guy at a party that hands u a glass of water when uve been drinking TOO much. thats the vibe i get from this
Reps just chill as he is and alb is like tell about he's experience
But alb is a loser bro, they are no even the same
@@nelsonchank Evan is in the exact same situation that Alb did to himself twice
@@nelsonchank there is differences, alb built good community and that come out a lot of good people out of it and he was prove that he was the best player at that time in tourney..
do evan has that? NO he was childish.
and he even bring TL come to light after alb join them and he left TL they still got what alb teach to them...
@@rixtalinc6109 “he was the best player” you trying to compare a world ALGS champion to a loser, are you out of mind?
While Evan and other pros going thru drama are trying to figure ish out, I’m loving how Albralelie is already on his self-reflection arc❤
Unfortunately it’s been said that years earlier. Bro is some sort of arc, just not reflecting
Let evan preach. Let hal preach. All you people outside the tsm house taking sides like " evan is a snake " or " hal is so toxic " are really forgetting these people lived together for years. They have faced ups and downs. People are allowed to express what they feel in words. Both evan and hal know each other better than we fans trynna think we know them but dont know anything
Well said. End of the day, it’s there choice how they handle their relationship (both professional and as friends). I’m sure they’ll work things out, even if it’s off canera
But even Hal was blind-sided by the comments from Evan. Conversely, Hal always said how he felt. He was never two-faced. Stop trying to compare the actions of the two. They are not equal. If Evan had voiced his issues to Hal's face, this would not even be a story.
Well I say let them freaking preach for each other!! they are friends! BUT when u go and PUBLIC the issues and UNFINISHED feelings on a prodcast then DONT expect to people to not to talk!??!? So shot hell up and dont protend to be smart and be the nice guy!! EVAN is a nice guy with prsonality of a flower lillte girl who needs to grow up
@@iammj9720 so you overhear two random people you dont know in real life arguing about a situation they have and your first thought is "let me take sides cuz my opinion gonna change everything" if anything id say you need to get mature a bit. this drama or whatever you wanna call it is only being popularized by parasocial people honestly. agreed it was made public by evan while he was doing his job (streaming) but he was mainly addressing it to Hal.
Be quiet bro none of that matters stuff like this should stay behind closed doors this is all childish and so is you point
Idk what timmy is talking about from my perspective as a outsider looking in dezign is way worse. He shit talks just as much if not more than hal yet doesnt have the accolades that hal has 😅
lol w comment - the rage from dezign is extra toxic
Evan just destroying all the reputation he's build up so far
No looks like he is just fed up with Hal thinking he was so good. Hal went from people thinking he is the best to now he is the worst player on his new team. Hal fel off and so did reps tbh. Evan lost his enjoyment of the game playing with Hal always crying and blaming instead of teaching or trying to help them learn from their mistakes.
@@achange999 Hal is the worst player on the new team, what tf were you watching LMAO. Being top frag + highest damage = fell off, are you high? Such a stpid comment this one.
@@achange999Yeah bro first in pro league and winning 6 b2b scrims means Hal fell off 🤦♂️
@uniqueking13_ dark zero was doing really good with sikezz. They only got hal to take his clout and make him beneath them. A true leader never leaves his team or ship. Hal fell off
@@achange999 True Hal isn’t as good of leader as he in game but his teammates not being able to put up with his leadership only hurt themselves and ultimately led to them to “fall” off. Evan started to resent Hal cus of his own personal feelings he let his emotions toy with him and self sabotaged by not playing the game.
Albralelie got the best take imo
Alb has no relevant opinion no more. He goes "I made this this this this and this mistake but now I grind (or retire for the 4th time) and yeah I apologize to you guys for my performance" just to do the same mistakes all over again. Yeah listen to Alb guys. Alb is 100% the voice of reason.
Reps has always been the mature one since Alb and Hal fighting days. Respect to him for just doing his thing.
Hal once called Reps Mentally challenged and Jesus in one game🤣 and you dont see him ranting online. He knows its all about winning.
Reps part of the reason he left though it’s obvious lol reps knows that’s why he being mature about it
That joining TSM bit by evan was uncalled for and a huge slight at a team he still on... made no sense
Mac said no lies.
W take from Mac
Love Mac’s response. Such a genuine, honest, tough, and sweet guy.
reps has always been mature, respect
Reps has the best take 100
Because he is the mature one and he also never got dragged into it. Verhulst put in Hal and Raven into the conversation but Reps was left out. Is Reps a J Cole?
Mac a real one, super relatable dude
Team will never be forgotten😢
Reps has always and will always be my favorite outta the tsm boys
good talk from Albralelie
evan seems like he got the friend and teammate mixed up. you are there to do a job and there is a standard that needs to be meant when competing for money and trying to be the best, leave everything on the field and talk about how you feel with the people who made you feel like that in private.
From my view this is all blow out of portion by thier communities., what Evan said wasn't bad at all but chat gassed it up and I think hal responded too aggressively .
@@unitynow6043 hal was shut up until raven respond to it.. track it out bro.
@rixtalinc6109 what does raven have to do with hals reaction and behavior that caused Evan to say what he said?
@@unitynow6043 you look stpid here. Go look for the whole story before yapping sht.
Shout out WillerZ 😎
Fr this drama better not turn to clip farming, probably already is
Not an insane take, ESA was steamrolling ALGS at the time
That’s a bad take, there have been many teams that steam roll online and fail at lan, look at old nrg, and even furia steam rolled and failed at lan. Tsm has lan proven experience
they were because it was the gibby/caustic/valk meta. the moment that meta dies your team dies. a lot of teams have hard times adapting to new metas.
lol a few good months and you think you’re better than TSM is crazy
LMAOOOOO Alb. mad funny the way he just doesnt care.
Too many Ls can break a person😢
In my opinion, Mac has grown in this aspect. Sure he still makes mistakes, some of the things he still does would make you want to scoff at him, just like any other player you might support to be honest.
That being said, getting away from all the noise...his take is probably the most valid one in this particular scenario. Man has been through it, knows the actions and the consequences of it and is in a position where his opinions on the matter should be heard.
Hopefully they hash it out
please explain briefly what happened between them
In a tldr format, Evan said something about Tsm, raven and Hal to the effect of them falling off*. Raven got mad and came out video. Hal got mad came out with video. now they going back and forth
*edit: out to off
Key points:
●Evan said Raven fell off after Champs
●Raven defended himself by saying there was no passion after Champs
●Raven felt betrayed by the team's reassurance that the passion would come back
●Hal agreed with Raven
And everything in this clip is after Hal agreed with Raven.
Apex pros are finally figuring out that you DONT HAVE to be friends with the people you work with. But a relationship to some degree is needed to make things work.
this is why reps is the goat
what is verhulst doing? he's being so weird and snakey man. i really liked him.
that’s what happens when you’re a weirdo irl prior to the fame.. the real comes out sooner or later
It's not snakey to tell rhe truth that Hal is hard to play with.... he insults people the millisecond he's dead, always putting people down, the snipedown Era was the worst. Evan didn't lie and esa was winning when Evan was on it before he went to tsm so he's not lying about that either
Wtf is wrong with being honest about it when people ask? Evan never leaked anything outside Apex. This was a purely Apex discussion. No shit talk about family, friends, activities outside Apex. Everyone knows Hal is hard to work with. Alb, SnipeDown, Reps. All his former teammates have shown that before.
You try getting slurs yelled at you every time you make a minor mistake. Like kudos to Hal for winning as much as he has, but that doesn't make it any better. I agree that you need to tough love to succeed, but not to hals extent
always gotta be careful around the quiet ones. They're the most dangerous/fakest ones in the group lol
The Downfall of TSM - new jhawk vid
Evan shouldn’t had said about TSM
Business decision lol
Hal defended him when doop was shit talking him 😂 now he is saying ESA is better? He is out of his mind
Where did Big E get all this ego from??
Idk maybe from being the best Valk player? Please don't tell us Big E is trash or not worth being in TSM. I dont like Verhulst's take but dont doubt him. He can 1v2 you and me with his left foot and he would win.
Can we move on from this? Content is so low these days that this is what we're talking about for an entire week
I hope so too. That said, I don’t blame Zipp or the other CCs posting new vids about recent drama since it is what gets the clicks and views at the end of the day
Look at the live viewers that Hal gets vs everyone else that streams apex combined. Unfortunately like half the live stream viewers of apex watch Hal (from what I see on twitch, please correct me if I am wrong)
😂 bro that’s like saying let’s move on from the Kendrick and Drake beef. This is a big moment for the apex community.
@@mywallet7367Yea and like that beef too, its all manufactured horsecrap lol
@@keek1337 it being manufactured means absolutely nothing. It’s pure cinema for the apex community.
evans initial statement that was just a answer to a question on a podcast has meshed with his responses to hal and ravens overreaction and everyone is stupid as fuck
Bros live together, this shit is actually a joke lol
Hal is moving out btw
This channel is all about gossip basically
Team Super Meek
in term of COMPETING, goated players like hal, Kobe Bryant, or Michael Jordan will always be perceived as an asshole/toxic by others just because they cares not only on winning, but also to be the best of all time. be warned if your objective is set solely only on winning or being the champ, u ended up being complacent, lazy and less hungry after u've achieved it (just like Reps and Evan)
is hal in the wrong for treating his teammates like that? of course he is, just because he have the passion and hunger, doesnt mean they can treats others like that, but u cant just have it all, these type of ambitious and passionate players, with the drive and hunger that they have, are usually bad at communicating their thoughts, that's their weakness, and no one's perfect
well unless u are Dennis Rodman, then you can just say F it all, imma do my own thing LOL
Reps just like me fr fr 😂 grown ass man just trying to play the game, they are making money off Apex so what? Just play and forget about it
Honestly, this would hurt me personally. It is still your homie who went swimming with you and trash talked you the same day. I understand that Big E wants views but he is still a bro. You dont do that if you are a bro
why did Evan even go there bro? i thought that dude was stand up. it just feels so unnecessary to do this on stream dawg.
Let's not forget that Evan is human just like us. It's not like he's perfect, so let's just give him a chance
@@NicoDoesLP i take no side for this very reason. just sucks seeing it play out like this when i dont really think it ever should have. especially if how evan felt and what he was saying didnt match. just lame.
Evan said idgaf 😂 why u mad? Hal needs to be exposed
@@achange999 exposed? everyone knows how Hal is🤣 tf are you even talking about .
why is this drama even a thing? Verhulst basically said one thing we all know and that is playing with Hal is hard and can be really frustrating, that's why Snip and Alb left TSM .. why is everybody making such a big deal about this?
honestly hal is salt even is salty. even should've tried harder and hal should've been less of a dick and more positive. everyone stopped giving a fuck but hal was the only one to be consistent playing. not team tsm at all its all weird bro. the only person i like is even but i need to know why he did what he did or said what he said.
The quiet nice guy saying F his fans and the org he only did it for the money is no surprise. Always gotta watch out for the quiet ones.
This is not what he said, this is taken out of context by zero.
Evan didn't say what you just claimed he said. He did say joining tsm was a financial decision since the team he was on was doing better than tsm. And he did say that Hal persuaded him to join with viewers.
Nice guys are usually snakes. I've learned this the older I've gotten. This goes for the religious types too.
@@garrymiller3171 So if Evan joining was financially-motivated, how can he get mad when Hal leaves because they are not treating it like a business/job.
I think, Evan doesn't know how to deal with the fact that Hal is gone, he wants to move on by wanting to hate Hal, but he knows, he doesn't hate hal.... He just want to let go or accept it, but he doesn't know how.
evan my guy, stop the cap
Hal thinks the only reason TSM won is because of him and his temper tantrums.
Bro forgot ESA was the best team in the world without him, and that TSM with Evan and Snip3 was mid until Raven came along.
Falcons won’t be a better because of Hal and his temper tantrums, Zer0 won a lan with a sub, you could give Zer0 two dudes from the stadium and he’d still make a run.
Hal’s ego is insane and it’s easy to see why Evan didn’t want to play with him anymore.
Better to have an overinflated ego than to not give a fuck about the game and only your monthly paycheck.
Also ESA turned Optic couldn't win ALGS when they dominated early finals.
- Performance stats matter
Big E needs to shut his mouth.
Lol caring about people youve never met
Welp not a fan of little E anymore. Dude just threw the bro code out the window for views. Just a sell out snake in the grass. The fact he told Hal what he was gonna do but didn’t go in to detail tells you everything you need to know about his character. His mom seems like such a good person. Gotta be the brothers in his head. They be flowing the f out him and it finally got him to crack
lol I really don’t think it’s that deep dude
Maybe not for you because you never competed before. He sound like a female spilling tea when he was the main issue himself
Wasn't he raised by a single mother? That alone speaks volumes. Hal, conversely, has his father present. Think what you want, but I've noticed that men with fathers move differently. Usually.
@@slylockfox85 What the fuck are you yapping about????
Beta Evan could not withstand the prowess of alpha Hal. He now lashes out in the most dishonorable ways possible.