Gustavo Kuerten vs Marat Safin Five-Set THRILLER | Hamburg 2000 Final Extended Highlights
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2023
- One of the all-time GREAT Masters 1000s finals 🍿
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If you enjoyed this one, here's the semi-final between Safin and Marcelo Rios! Lots of talent in this Hamburg tournament: ua-cam.com/video/57Xj086CkXQ/v-deo.html
The "two" most beautiful backhands during this period
Yep...these and Justine Henin-Hardin
I would add Andre Agassi, David Nalbadian, and Tommy Haas to that list.
23 years ago, and it looks like it was played today. The only thing revealing its age is the video quality. It's amazing how little has changed in the last 23 years in tennis. When you compare this 2000 match with tennis from 1977, now that looks like the Middle Ages. And of course Guga's backhand is marvelous, people can still use it today as instructional material.
You don't even have to go back full 23 years from 2000 to see a huge change.. This level of tennis was already infinitely higher, more powerfuk and better than the one played in 1990... Safin would have wiped 1991 Jimmy Connors.. Kuerten would have destroyed 1990 french open champion Andres Gomez... But these guys could easily hold their own against the current generation.. I see Kuerten defeating Medvedev on clay and Safin defeating Zverev on hard courts in a good day
So shocking thinking all people between 60-70+ years old in the stadium are already dead
Two of the most charismatic and likeable players of tennis of that time. Both slam winners and became the first number one ranked players from their country. Good times!
The first number one from Russia was Kafelnikov, Safin was the second
This clay court looks faster than most modern grass courts. Homogenization really took a lot of the thrill out of the game.
Shut up and enjoy the game
Agree. All the courts have become slow court.
Kuerten was the Picasso of Clay.
Nice ball striking from both. Kuerten’s backhand was out of this world, come on
The most impressive thing for me is how with a one-hander, he had no difficulty whatsoever with very high topspin balls. Actually, he loved those. Once he said something like he'd have a shot against Nadal in his prime. I do think so, exactly because of that.
@@BrazilDan1You cant discuss this with Nadal fanboys. Of course we will never know for sure, but be it Djokovic, Federer, Wawrinka, Thiem or who ever, they all had weak spots which Nadal was able to expose.
Djokovic plays very durable, but he has problems to constantly hurt people with on both wings.
Federer had a huge 1st serve, monster forehand and very solid backhand (in his best days) and he moved very fast, but his backhand was compared to Guga one dimensinoal, same with Wawrinka, Thiem and Djokovic.
Wawrinka had very solid strikes on both side, but he moved a bit slow and his serve isnt that good. His forehand isnt a constant winner weapon.
Thiem similar like Wawrinka. Of course Federer and Djokovic are in their prime better as Wawrinka and Thiem.
But Kuerten definatly had a total package which Nadal never faced in the form of one human being:
- Guga was almost as tall as Söderling (Guga is 190cm=6'3"), so he can handle Nadal's spin much better;
- he could constantly hurt opponents on both wings. Both were winner weapons and he didnt hit many unforced errors;
- his serve was a winner weapon too, he hit aces like Federer or Söderling, others like Wawrinka, Djokovic and Thiem cant do that;
- Nadal had the better forehand, Kuerten the better backhand, but still Guga hit overall more winners with his forehand then Nadal did with his backhand.
Buttom line: Nadal is faster, better forehand, return and defense, he brings more back.
Kuerten has a better backhand, better service and a better offense, he hit much more winner with his ground strokes but also his first service.
What is so special about Kuerten is that he has almost the height of Söderling (who could handle Nadal's spin better because he is 193cm=6'4" tall), moves much better/faster as the Swede but has ground strokes with much more varity, not just nonstop this power hitting like Robin, but also many angles etc..
Remember Djokovic, Federer, Thiem, Wawrinka etc., they are all shorter as 190cm.
I dont say Kuerten would win! But i always said he would have been the best opponent which Nadal would have faced on clay, only a prime Borg would be there with them.
At his best day, only extreme Nadal fans will say Federer, Djokovic, Wawrinka, Thiem etc. were as good or better then a prime Guga on clay.
@@chrisbach1533 rubbish, and a very long one. so funny you say Kuerten is almost as tall as Soderling but guys like Djokovic is not tall enough, when Novak himself is "almost as tall" as Kuerten....which you don't say.
Wawrinka when he is on, is better than Guga. Better everything pretty much, so don't try and sell others short just because you want to make your idol look good. Guga isn't as special as you make it out to be, otherwise baby Safin wouldn't have given him fits even when he was at his peak.
BTW I am not a Nadal fan.
@@dc0407Wawrinka better then Guga on clay, thats the real rubbish.
@@chrisbach1533 wawrinka beat peak Djokovic at RG final, don’t think Guga was ever up to that. Novak is better than Guga on clay, or everywhere….let’s not pretend otherwise.
These guys could more than hang with anyone from the current gen.
No
@@Aghoradipathi Why not? Only thing that's better is the rackets, lol... you mean to tell me that Tsitsipas is better than Guga? Or that Sinner or Medvedev are more talented than Safin?
Absolutely.
@@Aghoradipathijajaja you are a joke 😂😂😂
@@edwinivanrodriguez3769that's what your mom said before that eventful night 😂
My two favourite players growing up! Both had such an amazing charisma and that special aura, plus they were crazy talented, those backhands! Great memories, keep it up Tennis TV
Y poco después un tal Davis Nalbandian, un saludo.
SAFIN😍MY FAVOURITE❤MY FOREVER LOVE🥰
Guga in today's slow courts would have taken some GSs from the big 3
Nah he didn't have the power to go toe to toe with he big 3 in their primes. Nadal and Djokovic would abuse him.
@@Alex-dl6it I told he could take some, not that he would be toe to toe
@@alexandremagno6070 If you think he could take some, it means he has to go toe to toe in the matches. That's what I meant. And I don't think that would be possible if we are talking about Prime Nadal and prime Djokovic. Now I think he could challenge young Nadal (2004-2006) and young Djokovic (2006-2008) for sure.
@@Alex-dl6it Of course it would be early Nadal and Djokovic, because of their ages. However, even if it was not he could still do it on his day (unless probably against prime Nadal in RG). For example, he won against Federer twice after his first hip surgery, when his level was already much lower than on his prime
@@Alex-dl6itIsso nunca saberemos. O que Guga jogou em 2000, e até aquele jogo contra Mirnyi, no US Open de 2001, vi poucos fazerem até hoje. Depois daquele jogo, seu quadril lhe finou brevemente a carreira. Seria emocionante ver Guga X Nadal em RG.
How we miss 5 set matches in finals. Guga 4ever 🇧🇷
In Masters tournaments they had to play every day with no days in between to rest. Thank God, finals are played best of three sets these days. No need to exhaust players at the end of a tournament
@@orkhanb.7447 part of the reason why player in those days retired so early, but tbh the final off any ATP tour should be in 5 sets.
@@mamtomdauphong1696 I disagree with you. It takes away the uniqueness of Grand Slams
This Safin was still majorless, but would win the US open in a few months after this.
love safin’s backhand … that yevgeny style flat 2 hander
My two favorite backhands of all time. The sound of Safin's backahnd in person was crazy.
i would LOVE to see Kuerten and Nadal against each other at their respective peaks of play on clay
kuerten was good but nadal has been... a god... completely unplayable.
Prime Kuerten could beat not prime Nadal at RG. Nadal on its peak is unplayable
@@alexandremagno6070 exactly !
@@alexandremagno6070Nadal against one handers at RG is basically decided before the match begins
@@Divvy21against a typical one handed backhand, sure. Kuerten uses a semi-western forehand grip, upside down, for his backhand. Wheelchair players, who have to hit a lot of balls above their shoulder, also use this grip. 5'6" Justine Henin uses the same. Nadal gets beat by players that can smack his high balls down. Nadal's balls often land short at the service line. You can watch Kuerten hitting winners off of shots like that in his French Open final highlights. In an imaginary prime v prime match, I would be rooting for Kuerten. For me, he is a more complete player, with every stroke being a weapon. Rafa's serve would get smacked.
Um abraço para os brasileiros! Grande Guga!
Saudade da época!
Two of the best backhands to ever do it!
Epic match! Guga was a monster in clay!
could have been the goat on clay.
Quel match!
Deux grands joueurs, humbles.
RIP Alexander Volkov, player and coach
Provided legendary "coaching" to Safin before his first slam finals against Sampras. Basically told him he had no chance of winning so have fun on court. Safin played the match of his life and the rest is history. RIP.
Safin was a great player when he kept his emotions under control.
I was a Bagger Marat Safins fan ❤
didn't remember Kuertens playing style was that impressive. Very nice to watch both players.
How are these guys considered weak era?
Much better than the 2018-23 weak era which Djokovic vultured.
Good old times of great tennis.
Geez Hamburg was still a masters 1000 back then
It was for the remainder of the decade pretty much, until Madrid became a clay tournament
@@keeganandersson4281 yeah, I remember Stockholm and Sttugartt were also masters 1000 until Monte Carlo and Rome came along
2000-2008 was the golden era of mens tennis
Curious why you see 2009 as a start of a decline then. I thought 2009 was a fantastic year. The most memorable Australian Open for me with the epic Nadal-Verdasco semifinal and then the 5-set Nadal-Federer final. The best 3-set match Nadal and Djokovic ever played (Madrid, over 4 hours). The Soderling upset. Federer breaking through at the French and getting back on top for one more year, and then breaking Sampras's GS record in an amazing Wimbledon final. The emergence of Del Potro. Possibly the most loaded ATP Finals field ever.
Great quality! Love seen this classic matches!
Guga still has the best one-handed backhand ever
I remember that match ,
Both players were hitting the ball hard . 😊❤
One of the best Tennis Match ever.
Tuve el privilegio de ver jugar a Marat en Copa Davis en Chile 🇨🇱 es fue maravilloso además de ser guapísimo muy agradable ahora mi favorito es Medved 🇷🇺💪😘
A true tennis thriller 💯👌😲
What aggressive baseliner had a better one handed backhand for that particular play style? Simply amazing play from both, hitting it so damn hard and consistent
Thank you for the vedio 👍👍👍👍👍
Beautiful !
Guga é monstruoso pqp
Great Match
For those who wonder why it was played in 5 sets, it is because Hamburg was a Masters1000 before, named Masters before. Every Masters finals were played in 3 winning sets, which leads to crazy scenarios such as this final. This rule was changed in 2008
Great match up! I wondered how it would go if these two played. Such a cagey match though! Safin in such a bad mood hahaha and if his footwork was a little better he would have been a nightmare for Guga... Guga lacked a lot of power it seemed, but made up for it by being an overall clay-court master.
Guga had the best backhand of all time. Period
Lol. Safin has better and much known for his amazing two backhand.
@@jajasatorashi136Safin wasnt consistent, but when he was playing his best, his backhand was one of the best of all time. Def up there with peak Djokovic and Agassi backhands
@@Divvy21 right! he's not known for being one of the most talented underachiever tennis player for nothing.
@@jajasatorashi136 even though he underachieved, it was nice he still had something to show for it with 2 slams and many masters. Find it ridiculous the hype kyrgios gets as an underachiever
@@Divvy21 Spot on. Safin also won Davis Cup.
Guga Backhand ❤❤ the best.. Perfect.
Браво!!!
Qué nivelazo aquellos años, y después se sumaron a estos dos monstruos Nalbandian y Su Majestad RF.
A strong backhand topspin and a wonderful backhand drop shot - a nightmare for Kuerten’s opponents.
O cara era bom demais
Safin’s strokes sound like gunshots. Incredible timing
One of
The best clay court players ever
Touched the ball!!!
So rad
kuerten's backhand is just amazing
Época em que as finais dos Masters eram em 5 sets.
more extended federer from 2017 onwards 60fps and less monfils. thanks tennistv
Вау.., шикарнейший матч!!
Back in 2000, when everything was fine, weather was hot, clouds were bluer than blue. And only hearts were broken. Cornered.
I was a big Musterfan back then and hoped for more titles in Paris for him. But then came Guga.
And the rest was history, guga won a whole 1 French open
@@MistahhMingus Guga won 3 French Open. But i was refering to Muster. He didnt win a single title after the loss to Guga in Paris. He just wasnt good enough any more.
They played in Paris only once.
Larry Passos, an emotional man
Guga has the most iconic grunt ever
Aqui é Brasil, Floripa dá-lhe Gugaaa
I would have liked to see how Guga's backhand matches up against Nadal's forehand...
Something was definitely wrong. Guga was *never* this quiet before. I'm baffled.
It's also funny to hear people today talk about his backhand, when back then it was criticized for having way too much swing to have success on faster surfaces.
is it me or this clay court looks faster than today's hard courts ?
Maybe some super slow hard courts like Indian Wells, but definitely a lot slower than something like Atlanta or Washington.
The Prestige racket’s day 😊 Guga needs to coach Fed how to play on clay with one hand 😂
Guga 🇧🇷
❤️❤️❤️Marat❤️❤️❤️
Since Kuerten played poly (modern tech) and wouldn't be too out of date, how do you think he would fare if he was teleported right into Big3 era?
He would probably run alongside or close to Murray.
If wasn't for the hip injury...😢
Viva Guga !
5 sets for a non-Grand slam match? That's intense!
this is why the goat debate makes no sense, back in the day they had 5 setters year round! Not only is it physically exhausting, it's mentally draining too.
Hamburgo al mejor de 5? En fin más allá de eso el partido fue extraordinario,creo que las finales de máster mil deberían ser al mejor de 5.
jusqu'a 2007, les finales master 1000 en 3 sets gagnants
Final should be stayed in 5set
EXACTLY.
Women GS and masters finals too
bring back 5 setters in masters 1000s
AHH Savin's temprament, smashing his racket after he lost the first set in a best of 5 ...
Safin was such a great player, and I think he had a lot of potential as well he just wasn’t consistent and he had mental issues as well that were keeping him back. But I mean still very impressive record nonetheless, 6 Masters 1000s, Davis cup, World No.1 and 2 slams is still very impressive. I would bring him as the third greatest Russian Male tennis Player of all time I’m behind Daniil Medvedev, and Yevgeny Kafelnikov, and I would say Davydenko is fourth.
❤❤❤
sur la terre, il ya nadal et apres kuerten
Someone clears my doubt in the past, tournaments that were not grand slan were also played in 5 sets or were just the finals
Too many long ads here !
why 5 set?
five set?
why did they drop hamburg from a 1000 to a 500?
Masters 1000’s used to be 5 setters?
Finals. And of course top players didn't have first-round byes like they have today. And they were one-week tournaments, so plenty of matches in a single week. And they still managed to play full schedule, unlike today's players who skip so many tournaments due to fatigue, injuries or age. In other words, players used to have it much tougher back in the day.
Oldschool tennis was so doped...
wEaK ErA
Soft tennis in clay….. big difference how powerful and aggressive players after their era….Nadal
Hamburg used to be best 2 out of 3 sets??????
All masters used to be best of 5
@@guilhermerank2364 oh dang didn’t know this
100% for sure this match gave Kuerten a boost for the upcoming French Open. He won his 2nd FO title a couple weeks later. Funny is those two did great things agains each other:
- Safin was able to beat defending French Open Champion Kuerten at the FO 1998 in 5 sets, even if Kuerten was definately not in his best shape there, he lost in the weeks before on clay to Carlos Costa, Marcelo Rios and Cedric Pioline. But Safin's countryman Kafelnikov never defeated Kuerten at the French Open.
- Kuerten was able to do the same. He defeated defending US Open Champoin Safin at the US Open 2002 in 3 sets, but Safin wasnt at his best there.
Safin won USO 2000 not 2001.
Kafelnikov never defeated Kurten at FO , because he almost never played long rallys
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 True, my mistake about Safin's US Open title, it was 2000 and not 2001.
first
Guga
It was a good match. But seeing this, I think Kuerten may not even take a set from Nadal.
A healthy Guga would've take many. It's a question of matchups and the BH technic of Kuerten of taking balls on uprising, using a lot of spin, etc would neutralize the main weapon Nadal used against Federer, the high and heavy topspinned balls on RF's Backhand.
@@medina2529 lol i would be curious to see if you can hit Rafa's top spin on the rise and with topspin back. I havent seen that with Wavrinka, Federer, Thiem. Maybe Gaswqet sometimes. But anyway, he has a weak forehand. So Nadal does not have to play the way he played Roger. New matchups mean new strategies as you say :)
@@medina2529Guga will not be able to penetrate nadal's defence consistently enough on clay. On hard courts, it will be a good battle since prime Guga managed to conquer the hard courts before his hip injury cruelly robbed him of his prime years.
Kuerten could take Alcaraz, Nadal or Djokovic any day on clay...
Lol not this one in the video.
@@korayaptall the one that beat Sampras and Agassi at 2000 finals ATP
@@gugac486 yeah thats 2000. Not the one here :)
And Kuerten is behind in h2h vs both players.
Today maybe Carlitos would beat Guga in form💪
This one, "maybe". Not the one that beat Sampras and Agassi at 2000 finals ATP
Crazy how Nadal would have beat them easy in straight sets if they played a few years later
BRING BACK FAST COURTS LEWSERS! @atp