I got this too and it's pretty good. I tried to add oil, it came back out, so I put oil shocks on it and it worked okay. Played with it on the track a lot and it held up okay. Broke the bearing carrier after many many laps. Not gonna lie. I love this thing lol.
Nice! Which shocks did you go with I'd like to pick a set up. I agree though I've owned pretty much every cheap Amazon special out there and I would say this is easily top three overall
It appears you're in Florida, are you going to the Arrma Event? Jaytee and a few other content creators will be there. Just curious, because hopefully, they announce a new product, and you do a great job with leaks and previews, probably the best on UA-cam in my opinion.
Looks like an updated SCY 16201 chassis, screw holes and mountings are in the same place but they've moved to MJX setup so there's more room for a bigger battery
The 1984 Corvette called, it wants its wheels back. One day you will take one of these things apart and just sweep the pieces into the trash can. I have an old Hosim that is very close to that thing.
I don't think I would sweep this one into the trash can. I've run several packs through it now on 3S and it's pretty good. No breakages handles well and is definitely fun for the money
They actually held up just fine in dirt and grass but after the video I did run it on concrete and after a full pack of hooning around on 3S they're all pretty much gone :)
Yeah overall for the price I'm reasonably impressed with it. I've got several packs through it now and other than chewing all the nibs off of the tires on concrete it's still holding up great
Looks fun. I kinda like the design too. Just wish it had oil shocks from factory but as you said, it doesnt look like it'll be difficult to find some for it for cheap. Maybe a cool little project buggy
Yeah I put some more time on mine now and I'm still happy with it. Even on 3S with those knobby tires it's easy to control on pavement and seems pretty durable. I do wish it had oil filled shocks but it's still pretty funny without them. For 90 bucks it's not bad
I probably won't get anything from them unless something new comes out. It doesn't really make sense for the channel to get things that aren't new releases as people tend to not be as interested in them.
@@DoRC okay, understandable! JJRC also just came out with a new version of the platform with a different shell, and metal wheel hubs. The JJRC C8805 :)
4200 kv is high for 3s? Please don't tell my Gorgon that. I've been running a 4000kv Spektrum motor and 100a Spektrum esc in it since before Christmas. I didn't even realize the motor was only rated for 2s when i orders the combo. The ESC was rated 2-3s so i assumed the motor they paired it with would be. It was on sale on Amazon for less than $60 at the time so i wasn't too worried about it if i smoked it. I've ran dozens of 3s 5-6000 mah packs thru it without issue. I did add the fan also and it actually stays pretty cool. If it let's the smoke out next battery I'll have got my money's worth from it. I'm also running the biggest pinion gear that would physically fit.
Well the motor itself is rated for 50,000 RPM and if you the math 3S is a little over that. Will it be a problem? Probably not but I don't like to recommend people do things that are outside of the specifications of the hardware.
Yeah it's definitely an interesting choice. It could always just be replaced with screws if they didn't hold but so far they seem to be holding up just fine.
I personally have a grom and did NOT have the tabs fail. The internal gears completely failed. Either way for the price i think any plastic gear is unacceptable. I refuse to believe the metal diffs aren’t 50% profit margin. For a 25-35 margin over something like the redcat volcano 16 you really shouldn’t have these durability issues. My volcano has taken a beating and didn’t have an issue besides $6 rear metal driveshafts. Granted the volcano doesn’t have oil filled shocks like the groms
Surpass 2845 4200kv is 3S capable (it can take up to 12V no problem). But that motor seems to be the only good thing in that RC. Also "all metal drive" is not always a good thing. If those are "powder metal" gears in the diff, the thing will not last. And friction shocks with no fluid can be super fun (pinball bouncy) if done right, but those are not.
Yeah it seems to be able to take it though 4,200 KV usually is a bit high for 3S. Doing the math at full 3S voltage you are going to be a little over the 50,000 RPM maximum voltage if you're not careful. What specifically don't you like about it other than the shocks of course? I'm not sure I can think of a situation when all metal drive isn't good unless the metal is a really poor quality and it seems to be decent.
@@DoRC Surpass can survive 60,000 rpm. Well, at least through a single 1000mah pack. After that they never run the same, but still. Well, I fear "powder metal" gears more than plastic ones. I been there with Rlaarlo, so I enjoy and value my plastic Xray/Tamiya diff gears more.
Those surpass motors are pretty good I have same motor but 3200kv , it was hard to get a large piñon gear ⚙️ needed in the mini t not enough room on motor mount so it needed 3s , I wish these minis came 3s capable , even the reflex line all brands , and I have to waste motor esc and radio
@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah and my experience pretty much all brushless motors are decent. They're pretty simple devices so I guess there's not much to get wrong.
I agree though at least on this one it handles decently well even with the friction shocks. Sometimes they can be a real problem but this one's not too bad.
ABS recycled trash bag plastics, philips self tappers, fake aluminum shocks, crap zinc gears and those pins with 0 retention. Stay the f away from that crap, its literaly made to last the 5 min bash youtubers make and not any longer
Well it is $90 rc were talking about, the highest quality at this price point I think HBX and Udirc (on road cars) brand which is Fantastic👍 quality at this cost. Also rc youtubers often bash hard for those 5 mins to represent 2-3 months of normal use.
@@lyricofwise6894 I think that's a great point. I usually don't bash these vehicles for months before reviewing them but I do bash them as hard as I can to try to break them. Most people aren't doing that. And like you said it's a $90 car. I think for 90 bucks it's pretty good.
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I got this too and it's pretty good. I tried to add oil, it came back out, so I put oil shocks on it and it worked okay. Played with it on the track a lot and it held up okay. Broke the bearing carrier after many many laps.
Not gonna lie. I love this thing lol.
Nice! Which shocks did you go with I'd like to pick a set up.
I agree though I've owned pretty much every cheap Amazon special out there and I would say this is easily top three overall
It appears you're in Florida, are you going to the Arrma Event? Jaytee and a few other content creators will be there. Just curious, because hopefully, they announce a new product, and you do a great job with leaks and previews, probably the best on UA-cam in my opinion.
Unfortunately I'm not. I have prior obligations.
Do you know any oil filled shocks that will fit in the sg216? It's 50mm from hole to hole
Unfortunately no I don't. You might just look on Amazon and search for that length.
@@DoRC have you drove that car? It's basically undriveable with the friction shocks.
@erbl-h5d I have not
Looks like an updated SCY 16201 chassis, screw holes and mountings are in the same place but they've moved to MJX setup so there's more room for a bigger battery
Yeah it does a pretty similar
Just got this exact same car in red for 50$ shipped to the door. Looks like it’s a ripper I’m ready for it now😂
Nice!
Know what?...with decent shocks, that's a nice little car. It looks old school,i like it👍
Yeah I'm pretty happy with it. Even with the friction shocks it's not terrible.
The 1984 Corvette called, it wants its wheels back. One day you will take one of these things apart and just sweep the pieces into the trash can. I have an old Hosim that is very close to that thing.
I don't think I would sweep this one into the trash can. I've run several packs through it now on 3S and it's pretty good. No breakages handles well and is definitely fun for the money
I am wanting to know did the knobs on the tires rub off? Looks like it is missing the tire knobs on some tires. Great video!
They actually held up just fine in dirt and grass but after the video I did run it on concrete and after a full pack of hooning around on 3S they're all pretty much gone :)
@@DoRC ok so due to street racing. Cool beans.
Yeah that's understandable. They're definitely not street tires
Not a bad little buggy, nice video 👍🏻
Yeah overall for the price I'm reasonably impressed with it. I've got several packs through it now and other than chewing all the nibs off of the tires on concrete it's still holding up great
Looks fun. I kinda like the design too. Just wish it had oil shocks from factory but as you said, it doesnt look like it'll be difficult to find some for it for cheap. Maybe a cool little project buggy
Yeah I put some more time on mine now and I'm still happy with it. Even on 3S with those knobby tires it's easy to control on pavement and seems pretty durable. I do wish it had oil filled shocks but it's still pretty funny without them. For 90 bucks it's not bad
@@DoRC Yeah those tires are kinda cool. Nice to see a modern RC come with those
@Krapper515 they are cool but if you do get it be careful cuz they won't last half a pack on 3S on concrete :-)
Are you still thinking about getting the SCY 16102 Pro/variants?
I probably won't get anything from them unless something new comes out. It doesn't really make sense for the channel to get things that aren't new releases as people tend to not be as interested in them.
@@DoRC okay, understandable! JJRC also just came out with a new version of the platform with a different shell, and metal wheel hubs. The JJRC C8805 :)
@@magnusstone sweet I'll check it out.
4200 kv is high for 3s? Please don't tell my Gorgon that. I've been running a 4000kv Spektrum motor and 100a Spektrum esc in it since before Christmas. I didn't even realize the motor was only rated for 2s when i orders the combo. The ESC was rated 2-3s so i assumed the motor they paired it with would be. It was on sale on Amazon for less than $60 at the time so i wasn't too worried about it if i smoked it. I've ran dozens of 3s 5-6000 mah packs thru it without issue. I did add the fan also and it actually stays pretty cool. If it let's the smoke out next battery I'll have got my money's worth from it. I'm also running the biggest pinion gear that would physically fit.
Well the motor itself is rated for 50,000 RPM and if you the math 3S is a little over that. Will it be a problem? Probably not but I don't like to recommend people do things that are outside of the specifications of the hardware.
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I'm sorry I don't speak that language.
Very strange hinge pin set up, but if it works it works. The only negative are the shocks. Seems like a great beginner RC esp for the price.
Yeah it's definitely an interesting choice. It could always just be replaced with screws if they didn't hold but so far they seem to be holding up just fine.
Are there parts for it ?
Maybe but I really don't know much about the platform
I need parts ,
I’ve thrashed this car ,Changed the shocks , done the tyres.
It’s holding up well .
Ran 3s 2s it take it well .
@appleleroy Yeah it's probably based on some sort of common platform but I'm just not familiar enough with them to know what that platform is.
@@DoRC okay cool man
Thanks
I’ll keep hunting 👍
Could you share a link to the shocks?
is that pro version?
Pretty sure this was the pro yes.
You forgot to let us know how fast it is on 3S ??
I didn't do a speed run on 3S. I don't remember why now.
I personally have a grom and did NOT have the tabs fail. The internal gears completely failed. Either way for the price i think any plastic gear is unacceptable. I refuse to believe the metal diffs aren’t 50% profit margin. For a 25-35 margin over something like the redcat volcano 16 you really shouldn’t have these durability issues. My volcano has taken a beating and didn’t have an issue besides $6 rear metal driveshafts. Granted the volcano doesn’t have oil filled shocks like the groms
Interesting. I've only ever had the tabs fail but we'll see how these hold up.
Whoa is that your first affiliate link? About time if it is 👍
No. I've posted technically affiliate links before but just like this one they are 0% commission links. Not trying to sell anybody anything :-)
@@DoRCcommented before you said that at the end. My bad
@@GemFarmer76 np:)
Surpass 2845 4200kv is 3S capable (it can take up to 12V no problem). But that motor seems to be the only good thing in that RC. Also "all metal drive" is not always a good thing. If those are "powder metal" gears in the diff, the thing will not last. And friction shocks with no fluid can be super fun (pinball bouncy) if done right, but those are not.
Yeah it seems to be able to take it though 4,200 KV usually is a bit high for 3S. Doing the math at full 3S voltage you are going to be a little over the 50,000 RPM maximum voltage if you're not careful. What specifically don't you like about it other than the shocks of course?
I'm not sure I can think of a situation when all metal drive isn't good unless the metal is a really poor quality and it seems to be decent.
@@DoRC Surpass can survive 60,000 rpm. Well, at least through a single 1000mah pack. After that they never run the same, but still. Well, I fear "powder metal" gears more than plastic ones. I been there with Rlaarlo, so I enjoy and value my plastic Xray/Tamiya diff gears more.
@n00b247 eh. As long as they're made properly sintered steel is definitely stronger than any plastic gear. Course they have to be made properly.
Those surpass motors are pretty good I have same motor but 3200kv , it was hard to get a large piñon gear ⚙️ needed in the mini t not enough room on motor mount so it needed 3s , I wish these minis came 3s capable , even the reflex line all brands , and I have to waste motor esc and radio
@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah and my experience pretty much all brushless motors are decent. They're pretty simple devices so I guess there's not much to get wrong.
Funsky, is that Polish?
Don't think so. I think it fun sky.
Hilarious 😂
@@AsurasWrath164 Funski 😉
Would be a winner if it had oil filled shocks.
I agree it would definitely be better with oil filled shocks but it's actually not too bad without them.
Any brushless should have oil shocks lol cool looking buggy tho
I agree though at least on this one it handles decently well even with the friction shocks. Sometimes they can be a real problem but this one's not too bad.
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These cheap chargers stop charging when the battery is full.
Ideally yes they do.
ABS recycled trash bag plastics, philips self tappers, fake aluminum shocks, crap zinc gears and those pins with 0 retention. Stay the f away from that crap, its literaly made to last the 5 min bash youtubers make and not any longer
I have six packs through mine on 3s now. Still holding up fine.
Well it is $90 rc were talking about, the highest quality at this price point I think HBX and Udirc (on road cars) brand which is Fantastic👍 quality at this cost.
Also rc youtubers often bash hard for those 5 mins to represent 2-3 months of normal use.
@@lyricofwise6894 I think that's a great point. I usually don't bash these vehicles for months before reviewing them but I do bash them as hard as I can to try to break them. Most people aren't doing that. And like you said it's a $90 car. I think for 90 bucks it's pretty good.