Thanks, this was very encouraging to watch! I'm in the middle of my first draft right now and I'm overwhelmed keeping all of the balls I'm juggling in the air. It's good to know that I can drop a few and then make up for it in the 2nd draft.
High Edge, congratulations on your new writing channel. My name is Robert. I'm older and something I always wanted to do was write a novel. I'm a big D&D fan. Being older last year I lost my job due to my disability, hip erosion. I grinned down my hips till, I couldn't walk. Instead of laying around in bed feeling sorry for myself. I decided to write a novel. & boy Edge, was I surprised. One doesn't just write. There are rules, a way of writing a novel, starting with show don't tell at the top of the list. So, I decided to take our D&D adventures and put them into a novel. I'm-we are 3/4th's through the 1st. draft. Thanks for the advice! 👍💥
That’s great to hear. A D&D campaign is a great place to start and it sounds like you’re making great progress. I agree, there’s a lot to learn, but it’s worth it.
If you’ve read malazan, which is highly recommend, the whole series is modelled after the authors d&d campaigns, and it’s amazing - could be good inspiration my man
Saving this to watch later because I'm only 40% of the way through my novel. At least I got through the difficult part and can start heading toward the climax
Hey,I just want you to know I have subscribed. I really appreciate your point of view. I’m half way through my first draft and you telling me it’s going to be a huge mess has lifted a massive weight off my shoulders 😂 I’ll continue finishing before I worry about it too much thanks again
Awesome advice! I'm an epic fantasy writer and really appreciated hearing your drafting and revision process. Thank you so much, I'll be following your channel :-)
Thank you for another great video. I didn’t plan my novel so by the end I had a zero draft - a big pile of horse poop! 💩 I didn’t write it in order and went backwards and forwards like a crazy person. I ended up having to go in and reverse outline just so the plot made sense! I tried to outline, but it took the joy out of writing. I need to write in order to discover the story and learn who the characters are. It took a long time to reach the end. Like you I have a family including a disabled husband and child so time is limited. Your second draft process makes a lot of sense. Next I might try it. Pants the terrible zero draft then follow these steps. It could make the process of editing easier for me, so thanks.
Glad it’s helpful. I also write out of order, usually focusing on whichever part I’m seeing most clearly. And though I start with a basic outline, by the end I usually deviate. Struggling currently with an ending that didn’t clearly resolve a few character arcs, so I’m spending extra time exploring alternatives before actually writing the second draft. Sounds like you have a lot on your plate. Congratulations for sticking with it, it’s hard sometimes.
I might be jumping the gun, or crossing the bridge before I get to it, (insert proper expression here), but I like the plans you've come up with, and may implement a few of them, even though I am still two chapters away from completing the first draft. The first read through, the scene breakdown, a combination of characters and arcs, all good stuff. However, I already know much of what needs to be changed, modified, and dropped. I'm not saying I remember everything, and the read-through will be a refresher on some of it, but the biggest stuff I already have a hang of. So, I might do at least the dropping of certain scenes on my read through.
@@The3dge Hi, Edge, thanks for the reply. It's much appreciated. The novel is an epic fantasy. I only say epic because I think I have the makings of a high concept, and it's a two-plot novel, with the plots separated by hundreds of years.
@@adamhenrysears3288 that’s an interesting structure, I haven’t tried that kind of time offset before. It sounds tricky. What kind of fantasy elements are you tackling?
@@The3dge Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid that if I reveal too much about it, there will be nothing fresh left to share. And I do hope that the concept is fresh enough to catch the eye of an agent and editor. What I can reveal here is that while there are some fantasy elements within my story (magic/supernatural beings/good vs evil) I have tried to come at them from an old but new perspective, if you know what I mean. Not to mention, there are elements of other genres within it. I love fantasy, but it's not only a fantasy epic. It is many other things as well.
My 1st (ever) draft is a mess alright. Not just loose, but scattered.no order. Scenes just came to me full blown, complete with dialogue. 300k words, still not knowing the plot. I got the theme, though: pathetic kid discovers his flaw is not to be overcome, but used as a superpower. Fine. But I got two plastic buckets of yellow scribbled on paper (both sides) to put into order, stitch together. Figure out a plot. An ending. Do other people do it so chaotically? I wrote as fast as the ink would come out and a mess is what I got. But I love it. I keep it in two actual buckets by the door in case of fire. Better treatment than my baby pictures.
300K is a lot of words, sounds like you’ve got your work cut out. I write out of order too, I’ve heard it called weaving. But it’s fun to hammer into shape. Good luck!
16:06 the audio hits a major SNAFU, you (well, a separate recording of you from this same video) start talking over yourself in current time! Edit: it ends at 16:23
I have finished my first draft and I like the top of reading your first draft All the way through first. I am often tempted to tinker with the text but I suppose that I must resist that temptation.
I'm trying something I'm going to call a skeleton draft. It's about half a page to per chapter to work out the important plot points before starting the first draft.
I like to make multiple passes, focusing on one character each time, clean up their story, dialogue, etc.
Glad you found your process. Bet that helps with consistent characterization and voices.
Thanks, this was very encouraging to watch! I'm in the middle of my first draft right now and I'm overwhelmed keeping all of the balls I'm juggling in the air. It's good to know that I can drop a few and then make up for it in the 2nd draft.
That’s great. It always feels like that for me, but eventually you’ll get it done, just keep going!
High Edge, congratulations on your new writing channel. My name is Robert. I'm older and something I always wanted to do was write a novel. I'm a big D&D fan. Being older last year I lost my job due to my disability, hip erosion. I grinned down my hips till, I couldn't walk. Instead of laying around in bed feeling sorry for myself. I decided to write a novel. & boy Edge, was I surprised. One doesn't just write. There are rules, a way of writing a novel, starting with show don't tell at the top of the list. So, I decided to take our D&D adventures and put them into a novel. I'm-we are 3/4th's through the 1st. draft. Thanks for the advice!
👍💥
That’s great to hear. A D&D campaign is a great place to start and it sounds like you’re making great progress. I agree, there’s a lot to learn, but it’s worth it.
@The3dge Thanks! For the education, we'll be watching & learning!
👍💥
If you’ve read malazan, which is highly recommend, the whole series is modelled after the authors d&d campaigns, and it’s amazing - could be good inspiration my man
Good video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it😁
Glad I found your channel. Nice to find another um… genX author. Looking forward to binging your other videos! :)
Thanks, welcome!
Saving this to watch later because I'm only 40% of the way through my novel. At least I got through the difficult part and can start heading toward the climax
That’s great. 40% is respectable progress.
Hey,I just want you to know I have subscribed. I really appreciate your point of view. I’m half way through my first draft and you telling me it’s going to be a huge mess has lifted a massive weight off my shoulders 😂 I’ll continue finishing before I worry about it too much thanks again
Glad it helped. Most writers feel that way during the first draft so go easy on yourself.
Thank you. Good guide and I can feel your enthusiasm 😂🎉❤
Awesome advice! I'm an epic fantasy writer and really appreciated hearing your drafting and revision process. Thank you so much, I'll be following your channel :-)
That’s great! I love epic fantasy. Glad to have you along.
Thank you for another great video. I didn’t plan my novel so by the end I had a zero draft - a big pile of horse poop! 💩 I didn’t write it in order and went backwards and forwards like a crazy person. I ended up having to go in and reverse outline just so the plot made sense! I tried to outline, but it took the joy out of writing. I need to write in order to discover the story and learn who the characters are. It took a long time to reach the end. Like you I have a family including a disabled husband and child so time is limited. Your second draft process makes a lot of sense. Next I might try it. Pants the terrible zero draft then follow these steps. It could make the process of editing easier for me, so thanks.
Glad it’s helpful. I also write out of order, usually focusing on whichever part I’m seeing most clearly. And though I start with a basic outline, by the end I usually deviate. Struggling currently with an ending that didn’t clearly resolve a few character arcs, so I’m spending extra time exploring alternatives before actually writing the second draft.
Sounds like you have a lot on your plate. Congratulations for sticking with it, it’s hard sometimes.
I might be jumping the gun, or crossing the bridge before I get to it, (insert proper expression here), but I like the plans you've come up with, and may implement a few of them, even though I am still two chapters away from completing the first draft. The first read through, the scene breakdown, a combination of characters and arcs, all good stuff. However, I already know much of what needs to be changed, modified, and dropped. I'm not saying I remember everything, and the read-through will be a refresher on some of it, but the biggest stuff I already have a hang of. So, I might do at least the dropping of certain scenes on my read through.
Two chapters from the end of your first draft is a great place to be. What kind of novel?
@@The3dge Hi, Edge, thanks for the reply. It's much appreciated.
The novel is an epic fantasy. I only say epic because I think I have the makings of a high concept, and it's a two-plot novel, with the plots separated by hundreds of years.
@@adamhenrysears3288 that’s an interesting structure, I haven’t tried that kind of time offset before. It sounds tricky. What kind of fantasy elements are you tackling?
@@The3dge Thanks for your reply.
I'm afraid that if I reveal too much about it, there will be nothing fresh left to share. And I do hope that the concept is fresh enough to catch the eye of an agent and editor.
What I can reveal here is that while there are some fantasy elements within my story (magic/supernatural beings/good vs evil) I have tried to come at them from an old but new perspective, if you know what I mean. Not to mention, there are elements of other genres within it. I love fantasy, but it's not only a fantasy epic. It is many other things as well.
@@adamhenrysears3288 I get it. Sounds interesting from what you've shared so far and I hope you finish and have something you're proud of!
Thank You! 👍💥
My 1st (ever) draft is a mess alright. Not just loose, but scattered.no order. Scenes just came to me full blown, complete with dialogue. 300k words, still not knowing the plot. I got the theme, though: pathetic kid discovers his flaw is not to be overcome, but used as a superpower.
Fine. But I got two plastic buckets of yellow scribbled on paper (both sides) to put into order, stitch together. Figure out a plot. An ending. Do other people do it so chaotically?
I wrote as fast as the ink would come out and a mess is what I got.
But I love it. I keep it in two actual buckets by the door in case of fire.
Better treatment than my baby pictures.
300K is a lot of words, sounds like you’ve got your work cut out. I write out of order too, I’ve heard it called weaving. But it’s fun to hammer into shape. Good luck!
16:06 the audio hits a major SNAFU, you (well, a separate recording of you from this same video) start talking over yourself in current time!
Edit: it ends at 16:23
@billyalarie929 - thanks. So embarrassing, trying to fix a mistake and I made a worse one. Guess the video needed 3 editing passes.
I have finished my first draft and I like the top of reading your first draft All the way through first. I am often tempted to tinker with the text but I suppose that I must resist that temptation.
Finishing that first draft is a big milestone. Congratulations. Good luck with your 2nd draft!
Don't have any draft
I'm trying something I'm going to call a skeleton draft. It's about half a page to per chapter to work out the important plot points before starting the first draft.
That sounds like a good way to work out the details make the 1st draft easier.
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