This PS VR2 Gunstock is Almost Perfect! - Kobra Vader One PSVR 2 Gunstock Review
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Check out the Vader One in Kobra VR's Etsy Store here - www.etsy.com/listing/14323057...
Nothing in this world is perfect, but the Vader One is petty darn close. When the Playstation VR2 launched 22 February 2023 it was missing one important peripheral that makes playing VR shooters immensely more enjoyable and immersive; that being a VR gunstock. In this video we'll take an in depth look at the Vader One gunstock for the PSVR2 from Kobra VR, to help you decided whether or not it's the right choice for you.
Kobra VR is not new to the VR gunstock market. They've been developing and selling VR gunstocks since 2016 and in my opinion have created some of the most innovative and functional gunstocks on the market today. The Vader One is another great addition to that legacy and does all the important things right. There is a few things though that hold it back from being the perfect virtual reality gunstock so sit back and relax and let's get into it.
I want to thank both Falandorn and his wife, Jynxed, for this amazing opportunity to check out and review the Vader One. I am by no means a super skilled gamer but I do really enjoy VR and their stocks have been a big part of my VR hobby. I made my first review of the Kobra Elite simply because I liked it so much. I had no aspirations of developing a working relationship with them so this opportunity has been another treat I'm very grateful for. Once again to Falandorn and Jynxed, Thank you. :)
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Wanna skip to a particular part of the video? Use the Chapters. :)
Chapters
0:00 - Playstation VR2
0:10 - what does a perfect VR gunstock look like?
0:30 - the BIGGEST reasons to use a gunstock in VR
0:55 - THIS is the Vader One
1:03 - there's no need to weight
1:28 - it's all about the performance
1:59 - different is good IMO
2:55 - the Vader One 'hinges' on this feature
4:03 - I'm usually not a fan of magnets, but...
4:41 - sniper rifles, check!
5:12 - pump shotguns, check!
5:31 - SMG's & AR's, check!
6:23 - mounting your PS VR2 sense controllers
7:32 - wanna snipe using a bi-pod?
8:06 - the Vader One is almost perfect
9:40 - find Kobra VR on Etsy
#psvr2 , #vr , #KobraVR, #VaderOne, #virtualreality, #sony , #playstation , #playstationvr2 , #gunstock - Наука та технологія
Thanks so much for the review, picked up on positives as well as negatives which is important for potential buyers. You understood the concessions we had to make re weight on rear stock and unfortunately clearance is a little tight on the menu button. Again that was a caveat to having strut sit central but angled without occlusion at rear tracking LEDs. We could have raised the strut but that affects balance and handling, all about trade-offs. We will continue, as always, to improve designs based on feedback so greatly appreciate that 💪
All in all it looks like you did a really good job on this one. Props to you and your team. I will likely be ordering one soon. And, yes great review!
Still looking forward to getting mine. Hopefully shipping to USA won't take too long. I ordered this immediately when it came available.
Thanks for the follow up explanation. It is evident that you guys are doing a lot of work developing this. Cheers for that. I ordered mine a month ago, patiently waiting...
My Vader One is literally a few days away from being delivered. I havent played Pavlov or After The Fall in like 3 weeks. This should pair up nicely with my vibrating Woojer Vest
Just ordered mine last night, the wait is going to kill me. Can't wait!
nice review, was waiting a long time for a proper one, kudos!
Good review. I got the Kobra CQB for my Q2 on the back of your review and love it. Now I also have invested in PSVR2 I’ve just ordered this and will be playing Pavlov and Sierra squad with this badboy.
Great review thank you!
This thing looks great. Gonna wait and hope that Firewall Ultra brings some sort of weapon peripheral to the table. If not, this looks like a solid option. Thanks for the review 👍
I’m hoping Falandorn comes up with something like this for the quest pro controllers. I’ve looked at his maglock pro but it’s too bulky. I’m keeping my fingers crossed he can do something like this
Ordered mine a while back & should be with me tomorrow..can't wait
How long did you have to wait?
Great video and review, I love the level of information and focus on different situations. Based on your video I've decided to pull the trigger, I guess now with Firewall Ultra and Crossfire Sierra Squad might be a good moment to invest in a gun stock. Stay safe.
Just FYI, Kobra VR actually has a new version of the Vader One that is supposed to be launching soon, so you may want to hold off for a little bit and see what it's like first?
Same issues for me can't get to the option button as for that it's great, nice review 👍
Wow looks good. I just bought mine
Perfect review ever!
Already have mine on order!
I e been waiting for something like this for decades
Bought it, thanks to your review. Thanks!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@Maraksot78 So far, I'm loving it, but it seems like I need to adjust the in-game gun position a bit because it's hard to look down scope. I tried to adjust it in Pavlov and it tells me to use the right stick to adjust it, but it didn't do anything.
I noticed that I can bend the front piece a little to align it so I wish the front was slightly adjustable. There could be something wrong with the calibration of my controllers though.
I love the look of this. uther ones look like guns and I'm thinking to myself like your not gonna see it 🙈 with the VR on
Awesome review brother!! Have you experienced any ongoing tracking issues with the stock..I am running a stock right now but am having some intermittent tracking issues, tho this setup looks a bit cleaner in terms of a clearer path for ths headseat cameras.
For the most part the tracking is perfect. I have had it lose tracking on a few occasions but it happens so infrequently I haven't been able to figure out what I'm doing differently that causes it to lose tracking. When it happens it's very short lived, typically just a few seconds, and then it's fine again. Most play sessions go perfectly though and I don't lose tracking at all.
It does look really good, I've had gunstocks, but found that I can perform much better without, as they are just in the way and make you slow with other aspects of the games. This does look really good though.
That's what I love about Kobra VR's stocks. They give you the stability and immersive feel only a physical gunstock can provide and switching to your sidearm and grenades is as fast as going stock free. Sure it does take some practice and adjusting to but once you get it down I find the experience to be much better than going controllers only.
Besides Pavlov are there other games you recommend playing with this?
Amazing work from KobraVR as usual, nice review too but that noice between cuts was a bit annoying
Yah... that was supposed to be my "nerd sense" tingling that the PSVR2 headset had moved to a different place behind me. It was much quieter sounding on my PC as I was editing it than it ended up sounding once the video was uploaded to UA-cam. I was trying to do something to make the video a little more fun rather than just informational. I think the idea worked much better in my head than it turned out. Lesson learned. 😅
Cool information! The sound between camera changes it's odd haha
Yah... that was supposed to be my "nerd sense" tingling that the PSVR2 headset had moved to a different place behind me. It was much quieter sounding on my PC as I was editing it than it ended up sounding once the video was upliaded to UA-cam. I was trying to do something to make the video a little fun rather than just informational. I think the idea worked much better in my head than it turned out. Lesson learned. 😅
My concern is wear and tear it not being a cup into the handles.
Great video, but I heard some legends say that you are making a 4070 Ti Vr review. Is that right?
I haven't purchased one yet, but I think I'll eventually get around to testing one.
Can this can be configured for lefty’s? Great review!!
Yes, when you order you can select right or left handed.
All this RE4 PSVR2 has me Eyeing toys 😆 ah accessories. My RE4 RE the Umbrella Chronicles gun thing was Sweet on the Nintendo Wii
I bought the one that came out for the first headset and all it was good for was farpoint.
Can this stock still be used if shouldered on the left side? (Do the controllers still mount correctly?
Kobra VR makes both right and left handed versions of their stocks. You just specify which you need when placing your order. Unfortunately the Vader One is unavailable at the moment. Demand has been so high for the Vader One orders greatly exceeded their production capacity to the point stocks weren't going to ship for 6 to 8 weeks. To prevent orders backing up any further, they temporarily pulled the Vader One from their store. I'm not sure when they're planning to bring it back but right now I think new orders of their Quest 2 stocks are still between 4 to 6 weeks wait time.
Does the hinge have more wiggle than the one on the sidewinder?
Yah, I feel like it does. I don't know if Falandorn has redesigned the hinge on the Sidewinder to be more like the one on the Vader One or not, but the hinge on the review sample Sidewinder he sent me was quite a bit larger/more robust than the one on the Vader One IMO. He's always tweaking things on his stocks to make them better and/or help improve production time. For example he sent me the Vader one and the next day had to send out a modified front end for it because the original design disconnected too easily. In this video I'm often holding the stock with just one hand with the left controller attached to the stock. The way I wave it around, the front controller would have fallen off with the original design. The modification he sent the following day made the front controller connection much more secure. Another example, the stock he sent me was 1" longer than what you see in the video. I felt it was a little too long so I cut 1/2" of the aluminum strut out of each half of the stock, which felt much better to me. His wife also felt the Vader One was a little too long so because of his wife and my input he decided to make subsequent Vader One stocks shorter. So yah, he's always tweaking things. Anyway, back to the hinge... My guess is the larger hinge costs more in material and more importantly, takes longer for them to 3D print. The Vader One hinge is much less bulky and I'm certain prints up much more quickly. But like I said in the video, you don't need to pull a VR gunstock firmly into your shoulder like you would a real firearm. There's no recoil so you really only need to pull it into your shoulder enough to help stabilize your aim.
My dominant hand is right hand but I shoot pistols with my left anyone have any suggestions?
Is there a way to use it with your non-dominant hand palm up?
Yes, you can position the clamp for your non-dominate hand where when attached to the stock your palm is up. I just tried it and I didn't have any tracking issues.
You had me sold on this product all up until you got to the price. Over a hundred bucks is a little steep for an accessory.
Looks good and it will be amazing real, but reload time its bad
So many toys
What's with the sound effect when changing camera angles and such?
Yup!!
Great review....but that sound is infuriating 🤬🤣
It was supposed to be my "nerd sense" tingling that the PSVR2 headset had moved to a different place behind me. It was much quieter sounding on my PC as I was editing it than it ended up sounding when I watched it back just now. Was trying to do something to make the video fun rather than just informational. I think the idea sounded much better than it turned out. Lesson learned. 😅
Not a big deal in the end, the review was good enough to make up for it :)
@Maraksot78 haha well I ordered the Kobra after watching so didn't annoy me that much.
Did you order yourself or sent for review??
This one was sent to me by Kobra VR for review. Had to buy a PS5 and the PS VR2 to be able to review it though. 😅
In Pavlov should I turn on virtual gun stock or turn it off ???
You want it turned off with the Vader One.
@@Maraksot78 Ok Thanks for the reply. I just got mine today still trying to get a feel for it
@J P you'll want to go into the shooting range and on the right most lane there's a console that allows you to calibrate each gun individually so that when you bring the stock up and into your shoulder your sites are where you want them. Aka on target. 😅
@@Maraksot78 Ok Thanks again for the help man I didn't know you could do that
@J P no problem man. Have fun! 😀👍🏻
What game was you playing
Pavlov
Run! I think the headset is alive! 😂
Thanks for watching my video Barefoot. 😀👍🏻
I like it!!!
Me too. 😁
Looks great but complicated to use. How about a gunstock like the Sony sharpshooter? 1 piece and reload by pushing a button? Opinion of both would be great. Like I think most games let you manually reload or press a button and in intense online FPS it’s much more intuitive , faster and more fun to reload at press of a button and still have great gun stability. I will deff check out this gunstock. See hours priced, etc. Looks a hell of a lot better then 1 I see on UA-cam, recently. The only problem I see is the having to detach part of gun to reload and throw grenade. I think it could be learned, like you mentioned.
The Sharpshooter is for the PS VR(1) and does not work with PS VR2, and as far as I know all VR shooters make you reload manually and physically throw grenades as it's more realistic/immersive. There isn't any single button presses for reloads or throwing grenades in any modern VR games that I'm aware of.
@@Maraksot78 I didn’t say the Sony sharpshooter was for psvr2, you just assumed. I was simply comparing and yes, some vr games let you reload at press of button.
Which game are you playing?
It's called Pavlov. At the time I made this video it was the only shooter available for PSVR2.
does this also work with the quest 2?
No, this stock is specifically for the PS VR2. Kobra VR does sell stocks for the Quest 2 also though.
@@Maraksot78 thank you
I rather wait for the official one to come out. It should be better, look nice and be cheaper.
There’s an official one coming out? Do you know a timeframe when it will release?
@@xJay2002 no but they obviously gonna do it. Sorry if I came off rude to u also
@@dalewarren81 they did any for psvr 1.?
@@GueluberTv no
@@GueluberTv yes, aim gun
New to VR, what is the game you’re playing?
The game I used to test this gunstock with is called Pavlov. At this point in time, it's one of the only VR shooters available for the PS VR2.
@@Maraksot78 thank you, I figured it out and was playing for the last half hour or so. Great game mechanics but there's definitely a learning curve!
@n_y_p_e Pavlov is a pretty good game. I really enjoy the shooting range and the kill house. I love being able to go to the gun wall and pick up whatever gun I want, throw a sight on it, a fore-grip and a supressor and then play around shooting targets.
I really hope they'll bring mod support to Pavlov on PS VR2 because on PC that's one of Pavlov's best features. There are hundreds of mod maps to play on PC. There are maps from Call of Duty, Counter Strike and other popular shooters as well as custom maps people have made themselves. I played one awhile back that was the Dunder Mifflin office from the TV series, The Office. It's so fun to be able to play maps you know and love from 2D shooters in VR. You don't just get to play them, you get to be in them.
@@Maraksot78 omg that sounds amazing! I'd love to try that Office map hahaha! I hope they can bring some of those maps to the ps5.
@n_y_p_e I hope so too, because the handful of original maps they have get kinda old after a while.
You should also test the iHapticVR Carbon Shot. I ordered the other day and i'm loving the quality and feed compared to my vader. Its also on etsy.
any pc version of this?
Kobra VR mainly focuses on stocks for the Quest and PSVR2 platforms, so if you're using a Quest 2 for PCVR then yes there is a very similar version for Quest 2 called the Sidewinder. Here's a link to the review for it if you're interested. ua-cam.com/video/KfLp3SdIypM/v-deo.html
Another stock they have coming soon for the Quest 2 is the Vyper if you'd like to check it out. ua-cam.com/video/VJ7Ceq9SsaI/v-deo.html
If you use an Index, Vive or Reverb G2 or some other headset however they do not make any stocks for those platforms.
Out stock I pic up as soon go back to stock
Kobra VR has been getting A LOT of orders for this stock, so they've been taking it off their store at night to help keep them from getting overwhelmed with orders. They're located in the UK, and at the time I'm responding it's 11:30pm there, so I think they'll be putting it back up in 7 or 8 hours from now.
It’s kinda cool but way too expensive for what it is. I’d probably buy it for about £50 at most.
Really wish Sony would just make an aim2
this item is no longer on their Etsy store
Kobra VR has been getting A LOT of orders for this stock, so they've been taking it off their store at night to help keep them from getting overwhelmed with orders. They're located in the UK, and at the time I'm responding it's 6:00am there, so I think they'll be putting it back up in a few hours.
What is the name of the game?
Pavlov
"Sorry, this item and shop are currently unavailable" 😞
Yah, I noticed this several days ago and reached out to Kobra VR. They've contacted Etsy and it seems someone tried to hack their account or something along those lines . They're unable to access their account at all at the moment. Etsy shut their store down as a safety precaution. They're working to get it figured out, but it's taking some time to get things sorted.
@@Maraksot78 thanks for the speedy response my brother. And I subscribed to your channel, I just ordered my psvr2 and it should be here in a couple of days. Thanks once again 💪🏾💯✌️
100th comment 👏
94 euro for a plastic thing?
You are paying for the solution that it gives not just for the materials.
you are are paying for his expertise, years of learning, software licenses, and many more things not visible
Sadly its sold out
Kobra VR is actually a made to order business. When you make an order you get placed into the queue, and they ship out your stock once it's completed. They're actually a very small company. It's just Falandorn and his wife taking all the orders, manufacturing, assembling and shipping out all their stocks. With just the two of them handling hundreds of orders, as you can imagine, it's easy for them to get backed up. The Vader One has been very popular and they have been removing it from their Etsy store at night (they live in the UK) to keep from getting buried with orders. It's back up on their store now though.
I just ordered one. ETA says May 27 - June 26.
@Ryan Myers they've had a lot of orders for this stock. They tweeted out a picture a couple weeks ago where they must have had at least a hundred of them they were assembling.
@@Maraksot78 I believe it. I don’t mind the wait or cost as I prefer to support small businesses. Looking forward to getting it in hand. Thanks for the review.
$110 IS CHEAP!!!!!...........................................................................................
................................ since I also saw that this Vader One ejects shell casings!?!?! Drool......
Cool gona get one , what game is that your playing
At the time I made this video the only shooter available for PS VR2 was Pavlov, so that's what I played. 😁
Wtf $100 bucks that’s Insane
The smaller makers of vr accessories tend to make better products in my opinion (feedback from customers is listened to and incorporated in future products), but these operations are usually just one guy. Lots of time to make them with small economies of scale means that the product has to sell for more than a mass produced Chinese version that lacks many features. One of those "it is what it is" things.
Can we play pubg on it
What!, I need to practice shit, I am not the ultimate badass semi god at once?!...oh right, sorry, I am not a woman and I forgot the fact there is something called learning before perfection. Jokes aside, this one seems really nice, good review
r.i.p the i.r lamps and i.r tracking.
the points of attached magnets block i.r you dummy dum dummy 😂
$110 lol no.
People who need gunstocks to actually be able to hit Enemies, shouldnt be playing VR FPS in the first Place.
Hand Eye Coordination aint so hard fellas
Maybe for some. For me, it’s not the issue of hitting people it’s for more immersion. I’m really good at Pavlov now having turned off the Virtual Stock on day1 but this stock looks cool for immersion purposes. Not sure if I will buy one but still pretty cool idea
I think there’s as many prefer a stock as don’t. It’s subjective. Coming from Quest 2 Contractors was my favourite game and many of the the best players don’t use a stock, conversely many do. I prefer a stock for immersion mainly, but it does help flatten the learning curve with natural point of aim for me too.
Firstly, I will never listen to, believe or even consider any type of review from someone who receives an item for free. When you have to pay out of your own pocket for the item only THEN will I have an open mind. Secondly, I don't care what all the explanations are that people gave here in the comments section, what they're charging is far too goddamn much, especially given the terrible economy in which we live in, inflation out the ass and the cost of living at a ridiculous all-time high. Their pricing is unreasonable. I could maybe get on board if it cost $50-$60 dollars.
In my state, after tax this chunk of cheap plastic will cost me $107 dollars. Aaaaaand I have to pay a shipping fee of $25 dollars?! That brings the grand total to $132 dollars! JUST for THIS?! Sorry Kobra but you're out of your mind!