Pogacar Smashes Lance Armstrong's Doped Record 23 Yrs Later
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Tadej Pogacar smashed Lance Armstrong's totally doped record on Pla d'Adet during stage 14 of the Grand Boucle 2024 after climbing Tourmalet and smashing Jonas Vingegaard and Remco Evenepoel with a wonderful tactic by the Saunier Duval team with Adam Yates who didn't miss COVID positive Juan Ayuso at all. Stage 15 with Peyresourde, Portet, Menté, Agnés and finish on the legendary Plateau de Beille will be key for Vingegaard to have any chance of taking the yellow jersey from Pogi.
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These e-bike races are getting intense.
standing golf clap.....well done sir, well done
Lol 😂....u know it's going to be the next big controversy of the sport.
@@dobiacco that was funny.. Made my day
😂
@maxwellmcdowell3744 it's already happened like 10 years ago when F. Cancelara was smashing all the time trials.
2 minutes faster than peak EPO and blood doping. And a lot of people believe cycling is clean now ...
and steroids
It's hilarious.
@@cattycats4 that is a very bold statement. If you check cycling highlights videos you can hear how poggie has got two spanish trainers and how he is using oxygen chambers. Show me strong solid evidence of doping THEN and only THEN will I believe it. Strong evidence that will stick in court.
@@christianfibiger3146
Nobody cares what you believe or what evidence you want to see especially as you have your head up your a£&e regarding the data we can all see re times. FFS 🤦♂️
@@christianfibiger3146 Lance did take steroids its been proven, strong evidence that did hold up in court, lmao
Pogi is going up 7% grades like they're flat and smashing LA confidential's doped records but we're expected to believe he's clean?!
The bike, it all has to do with the bile says GCN. Buy one of those 10000 euro bikes and you will fly.
FWIW, I don't think he's doped.
@oliviernoir6669 10k, you say? That's peanuts, mate. 😂 if you go by GMC's recommendation, you'd riding a 2 wheel ferrari.
@@davefoc Then you haven't paid attention.
believe anything you like
If Pog beat the record by 2 minutes then Jonas would have broken the record... Think about that.... a guy who took 30 days off (NO exercise at all) less than 100 days from the TdF would have beaten one of the most doped riders ever to race a bike after a 30 day lay off (and don't forget he was recover from injury at that time too). The powers that be, that the ASO, UCI, teams and media want to sell the idea that is clean performance. If you rally believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you.
Not just Jonas… even the 13th rider across the line (Simon Yates) beat it.
And some of them have some kind of mechanical doping for sure
Čisto??? Vsak dan 200 kilometrov in brutalnih klancev.....Ja pa kaj še.....
Gorsko kolesarstvo....je veliko bolj ostro in pošteno
@@LoZANOfab Evidence?
@@rockhopper01convicted doper Simon Yates.
"Break records thanks to nutrition" LOL
and good gens
And they are skinnier than previous riders
2040 Pogi the confession. I hope they have some kind of Oprah in Slovenia
@@Daiski87 exactly....mitocondrie doping at cell level
We will need some more coming out until that might happen. Wiggo though looks like he is financially in dire straits, so he may be one selling his secrets.
@@Daiski87 Genius
This will not happen in Slovenia. It is one of the more corrupt countries in Europe. Moreover, the chorus of people who analyse the stages every day in the studio are themselves ex-racers who have already been suspended for doping (Tadej Valjavec, Jani Brajkovič, Kristjan Koren, . The level of accountability and self-criticism in Slovenia has always been equal to zero.
Even the people who are in the top positions in Slovenian cycling Milan Eržen, Andrej Hauptman (now directeur sportif in UAE) have all been suspended or suspected of doping abuse.
This will not happen in Slovenia. It is one of the more corrupt countries in Europe. Moreover, the chorus of people who analyse the stages every day in the studio are themselves ex-racers who have already been suspended for doping (Tadej Valjavec, Jani Brajkovič, Kristjan Koren, . The level of accountability and self-criticism in Slovenia has always been equal to zero.
Even the people who are in the top positions in Slovenian cycling Milan Eržen, Andrej Hauptman (now directeur sportif in UAE) have all been suspended or suspected of doping abuse.
7.4Watts/kg for 40 minutes. Why does no one want to even talk about this. He has improved more then 10% above the numbers produced by Pantatini and Lance and others. I want to believe, but it is such a dominate performance that it has taken the fun right out of the sport. Even the other riders are snickering and saying they are not even remotely close. There is not one other endurance sport in the world that has improved by that much in the last 10-20 years. in the 90s we were already at human limits.
We talk about that in this channel. Stay tuned
Also factor in that these are the best riders in the world. How is it that his genetics are that much better than the best? Is the guy on a TUE? No one seems to talk about TUE's anymore.
@johngillis7625 Well said; it's a joke at this point, beyond the realm of possibility and natural human potential (imo).
@JFlo-ln6dx Jonas is 100% on them after his crash, JV said so, as for Tadej I don't know. I just somehow believe he's clean
He is the best and clean on all tests.
of course the next 13 riders also beat that record.
I was a Lance fanboy back in the day falling hook line and sinker for all the bollocks and the commentators and performances are eerily similar these days 😮😮😮
one bollock even: )
No big deal. The tour has had a reputation for being the dirtiest sport for 30 years or more. For I just chalk it up to learning from life.
@@theundead1600 Actually, it has been a dirty sport since the very first race. The first winner was banned the next year for taking a freaking car during the race. Everyone used whatever they could get to survive. There were times when doping was just a time penalty. Checkout a two book series by Bill McGann on the history of Tour de France. 100+ years of great stories but also cheating non stop. Do you know the name Tom Simpson for instance?
Most of us were fooled and bought into the Lance story. The watts these guys are doing is “unreal”.
@@basslenny117 LOL
Ye, he just uses better drugs, that are allowed/untrackable, dont kid yourselves. Todays professional sports has a list of "suplements" that were considered drugs years back and new compounds that leave the body in 24h and are still hard to detect by any test.
Anyone who believes that the riders on the tour are clean today are just kidding themselves. I love watching it but get real.
Everybody that the tour had cleaned up multiple times only to find out later nothing had changed.
testing has never been more advanced today, stop kidding yourself
I've known a former rider from fdj (vichot) for about 20 years, and I can vouch that he was clean when he was riding, although it won't mean anything for you coming from a random on the internet. Him and a few riders have been advocating for permanent bans for cyclists who get caught. He's finished the tdf, won a stage of the dauphine, and was French champion twice. He retired early as his body couldn't cope with the volume of riding anymore.
@@Kenzou-bp3rbare you serious you sound as naive as those who used to claim but but but Lance has never tested positive
@@mattd6593 exactly. Lances big claim was always “listen , I’ve been tested hundreds no thousands of times and I have NEVER once tested positive”.
@@Kenzou-bp3rb 🤣🤣🤣
To use the logic of a lot of cycling fans, this should not have been possible. Tadej must be doping.
PS. I just think both Jonas and Tadej are incredible cyclists. No blood doping involved.
The only cycling commentary I can stomach. Informative and entertaining. Bravo good sirs.
AMAZING...always so full of content and truth about these riders in Armstrong Era. Just funny thinking Hincapie won that stage 2005 (stage 15) beating for example PEREIRO, CAUCCHIOLI, BOOGERD and BROCHARD. I remeber that Armstrong said after his final tour that Hincapie could win the tour. We never thought Armstrong and his team was just doped up with blood, before the tour and during the two restdays!
Armstrong said that about liitle big Georgie, because he knew that Georgie knew the recipe for sucess. But Strangely , as little dirty georgie said on his book, he stopped using drugs in 2006 !!..can you believe this guy? The nerve...
Sorry about Dr. Sainz wrong pic, obviously is the guy in the right of the pic of Poulidor. Editors, you know..
Sadly, one has to have lingering questions about the type of fuel required to propel a bike that fast up such step inclines.
Ketones are a new type of furl these riders are using. They are close to sugars but not sugars so insulin doesn't trigger a bonk
Today’s stage in the Pyrenees was extremely suspicious. He accelerated up a 13% gradient like it was a descent! I was aghast. He’s on something.
@@lanceblack888 look at his Strava there you can see his speed 5km from finish. It seemed he accelerated to 35km/h. Went down to 27... You can even see remcos Strava.. He was closed behind and tried to follow.
Visions of Rasmussen...
@@martinmartin400 I can’t hold 5 kmph up a 13% gradient. His explosive power suggests anabolic steroids or testosterone. Even the tiny Dane couldn’t get up that hill at that speed and he’s the perfect build for climbing.
Some definite roid rage during that celebration at the end. He didn't even look like he was suffering at all.
@@robertgreenwood6940 that’s what I was thinking. How can one person’s fitness level be that so far superior to everyone else?
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
@@MarkKanaster-ev6pq The truth is out there.
These videos are beyond brilliant..
Merckx tested positive for banned substances three times in his career, and was expelled from the 1969 Giro d'Italia while leading the race after providing a sample that contained a banned stimulant.
I have no doubt he did, but even in Italy, even the radis Italian faans, they're ashamed of that corrupt stunt that had Merckx DQ'd. The story behind that bust is sordid, and Merckx was justly outraged. well... on that occasion at least.
That's because is the doped Eddy
Also he presents Ferrari to Lance
& yet many say Merckx is the greatest of all time...the facts are 'as King Kelly always says' his competition was nothing compared to today's riders, indeed even the 80's onwards.
I know it. You know it. They know it. We know they know it. They know we know it. We know they know we know it.
It's all in the zone 2 training.
I do not think is EPO, I think they have a tiny motor connected to the groupset battery and activated by the di2 hidden buttons. There were tests done online and a di2 battery can easily give you the needed boost to win the race. Remember all they need is a few watts!
At least this channel is clean and a lot more exciting than the race
this, so much this lol
The race is a dopers joke and I only watch your updates. Keep up the good work🫶
Haven’t watched race since Cav’s gift. Suck it, Prudhomme. Never watch your “theatre” again.
@@isitrachelorj3953I wonder who is naïve enough to believe Cavendish won that stage through skill alone.
@@backalleycqc4790what happened then? all other sprinters being paid off?
@@Charizardlison
@@backalleycqc4790 wow u so smart man. but would you bother answer my question?
I’m happy the old days are back, we might see exciting racing now 😀
He did it without doping ? Yeah sure , that's what they're going with ? Greg Lamond lays it out perfectly . Everyone should listen to his explanation about watts , power output , and duration of max output . What these guys do is super human . And many of them do it . Give Lance his titles back .
Roche and Kelly were the best Irish superdopers from the past, but Healy was the big surprise today, what did he eat for breakfast? What was in his blood? He was faster on his own than most superhelpers and pureclimbers, one by one, they all failed to get him back, while Healy was in the breakaway the whole day. And Healy almost did a Landis all on his own, only being caught a few kilometers before the line. Maybe he drink/ate the same as the Irish superdopers Roche or Kelly? And no that was not just a guiness, some bloodbags maybe or a few pills, who knows?
OMG....the alcoholic beggar😂😂😂😂😂😂😂thats had me in stitches
Tiny Tim and always a friend of the channel😂😂😂
Back to back legendary performances with Giro in his legs.
Incredible, ecstatic, very entertaining, I hope they improve even further.
Grill the Herring....
No one a beat Lances record for the most PEDs in his blood stream. Lance was super juiced.
No much different to his main rivals (at least until june 2024 after Dauphine)
im watching him blow the tour de france apart.. AFTER .. winning the giro.. he has zero fatigue.. nobody else has come anywhere close to this. i desperately want to believe but this just feels ridiculous, his accellerations are just unbelievable
Just curious, how do you know that he has zero fatigue?
Nickname for Benji Naesen: Lantern Stooge? Yes or no?
🤣
A resounding yes.
Dodged a Cheetoes 8:38
why is everyone butt hurt about cycling not being clean? when has it ever been??
Today's cyclists sell that about the change in cycling since Lance confession
Dope-free but not Covid-free Tour de France 2024.
only among the vaxxed!
@@patrickwong4824 lets see about 20 years about this doped free tour. Doping now is on cell level, mitocondrie level..
Weakened immune systems?
The sport is clean as mud 🫣
LOL IT IS NOT A SPORT BUT A SHOW
the best doped win
2 mins is so little means lance had motorbike as well so did his opponents interesting...
There is a fair age difference between the riders age when they set these records and the understanding of sports science (esp. fueling) is at another level.
You should do a video on Orla’s screeching foghorn vox. Her endless hysterical laughter and cacophonous monologues are torture to my ears. Her vainglorious outbursts add nothing to TDF coverage. I wouldn’t be surprised if she started taking selfies during her “performances” 📢
Safe that the war between Pogacar and Vingegaard's fans is just relegated to tossing Cheetos in the face.
While that between American Presidential Candidates' fans have resulted in . . . 'shots were fired'.
Let's keep cycling safe!
So cleanly complete- tomorrow is a different day- the tour will be decided tomorrow 🎉
Cycling highlights is that you Rowing up cheap potatoes at riders at tour the France ?😅
😂
No dude. Our enemies aren't the cyclists
@@cyclinghighlightsnot even tiny tim??😢😢
Exactly, they are going up like there’s. 0 gravity/weight hahahhaa
Poggi is doped this year.. 100%
Thankfully there are other clean riders, Jonas for example.
you can't win the tour with just a bottle of water .
POGI = Doped as hell for sure !
Why is doping and record breaking only an issue in cycling? Do you think other athletes, like soccer players, basketball players or swimmers win all clean? It's just in cycling that they are capable of "secretly doping"?
Pogi's secret sauce is really just his 165mm cranks.
Only Rihanna on a Van Rysel, Van Ryhannasel, can beat clean Pogi 😁
Remeber Ben Johnson's amazing doped 9.79s 100m Olympics? It shocked the world. Of course Johnson later got busted for steroids. At the time, nobody though running under 9.80 was possible. Well 9.80 is still a rare fast time today and not may can hit it. But as we've all seen, Bolt has smashed it with his WR 9.58s!!! So yes, there can be a clean athlete who can come along and smash the previous doper's record. Armstrong didn't even have the highest VO2max on his team and definitely not in the peloton. His VO2 was about average among GC riders, but EPO bumped it up 10% which is enough to allow him to dominate (remember the top and bottom GC guys were only seperated by about 2-3% difference in VO2max, so a 10% bump was massive). But to think Lance's performance was the maximum humanely possible and that any performance above that must be doping,,, is like buying into a false narrative. Pog has show much more talent then Lance has ever shown as a GC and as a general bike racer.
UAE can promise their cyclists way more than77 virgins for every stage win.
People think Lance was the only one. Sheesh
But Pogi isn't doped, believe us😂
Jonas lost time ,but he's happy.
Tomorrow he will say 'It's not the winning it's the taking part"
Awesome commentary. Funny TOO
i am just watching tdf for the scenic views on the telly, testing negative for dope, doesn't mean you are clean.
Im a Dane and I find theese tour performances hard to believe.
LA is not comparable with Pogi . LA did not race at any race but Tour De France . Pogi , I hope will win Tour De France , and how many racers
you know with Giro and Tour wins at same year ? Not many , only a few legends . LA is not worth to compare with Pogi . Pogi is a million miles
away from LA .
Pogi is about to climb Sheryl Crow's mountain too.
Urska is prettier and also he prefers rap songs so probably climbing the Minaj's plastic round hill
@@cyclinghighlightslol
A moto that identify as a bike. With ebike, guys like Pantani or Ullrich would have to use the brakes going uphill...
Who's to say Pogacar is not also doped up to the gills? I don't trust anyone in this sport to be clean. That's how much damage Lance did.
Lance said he didn't make the rules. He was just the best at playing a game that was established long before he came along.
They all use enhancements. Which of those are classified as doping are then semantics imo.
Pogs doped out of his head.
It must be the aero socks!!!!!
On PdB they also used aerodynamic bras, ketones, marginal gains and carbon monoxide inhalers. 😂
Like bicycles the dope has improved
Why are cyclists getting covid so often?
Immune systems fecked by all the doping i dunno
Great cover story
Those keystones and vitamins are amazing
I follow Irish sports media and with interest Benny Hilly is getting almost zero traction over there. Think they are onto something? Great show as always cheers!
Still a solid ride by Lance. He just didn't have the nutrition back in the day.
Its the old " spoon jar jar spoon trick "
My door is ajar...
Well pull it pull it!
Its the Keto Diet....
They all dope from Eddie to now!
No, from the start. Only the complexity and efficacy of the products has changed.
It's a gladiatorial sport, how the hell would they participate in this ludicrously tough challenge otherwise
Slovalien won the tour today.
It's not over. The fish has that special juice in the 3rd week.
@@Mike-rm1lb 2 mins, I'd say it's over.
Yes I salute Pogacar:)
@@christianfibiger3146 I salute you!
What is that?
Incredible how certain top cyclist improve their performance in 2 years, compare 2022 vs 2024 and you will see different numbers in w/kg against time to maintain that w/kg. That very strange due bike, training, food is the same
Johnny V would never hire a doped hair died punk (ala Virenque) on his squeaky clean team. Greatest show on earth 🙃
Why is there suddenly so much COVID floating around?
So according to this channel, EVERYONE is doped ? Wow.
No dude only clean ppl could beat Lance
@@cyclinghighlightsremember on a book that was written by Tyler Hamilton (somewhere in the book that has a history about EPO) on the part of Eddy Merckx that if you want to beat his 5 Tour De France yellow jerseys, you have to do it clean.
So yeah.... Trust me, I may be seeing ghosts from those "7 straight" Big Blue Lance Armstrong wins right now... Idk why... Am I wrong to think that....?
It's pretty obvious some are doping.
@@cracked229 Stefan Schumacher, German rider, strong but not one of the top guys, faced a lawsuit. He had confessed to doping, so that was clear. The case was about whether he had betrayed the team or not. He argued that doping was organized in the team and not his exclusive personal decision. There were no definitive proofs, but he was acquitted. In the trial, he said it was unhealthy to ride the TDF without doping.
@@cracked229 Yeah, it'd suspect that some are but everyone? I don't know enough about all the ways they are or what's now considered doping. Are ketones considered doping? Amino acids ? Anything not natural? Who knows.
How is The Great Bjarne Riis a friend of this channel, may i ask?
We have contacts
Vingegaard has been down 2 minutes before AND won the TDF. Let's NOT forget THAT!
He does not look fully juiced thus far. When he wins a TT against Remco, we will know he is.
What? When? If I remember correctly biggest gap he had was in 2022 - 39 sec after stage 10.
But bikes are faster right? 😂
In theory, exogenous ketones produce more energy per ml O2 than carbs (I think +28%?) But in studies it never actually improves performance as a salt or ester. Perhaps in another form?
Did the white Kenyan finish within the time limit??
Not nominated
@@StatistikinDD 😭😭
For all the people who think riders are doped up today- why do you still follow the sport?
And why not? Don't you enjoy films and tv series full of fiction?
I find it sobering to see what the world is about. Cycling, or any professional sport, is just one of many examples. How do you get out of it? Do you follow politics, knowing a lot is happening behind the scenes that is not said openly? How decisions are explained as if there were humanist motives rather than conflicts of power interests? Do you watch movies, knowing Hollywood is quite a dark place (see Ricky Gervais monologue at the 2020 Golden Globes)?
@@StatistikinDD this doesn't answer my question. If you think cycling is full of cheaters and liars, why do you watch or follow it? Do you enjoy being treated like an idiot?
@@cyclinghighlights we all understand that movies and TV shows are fiction. With alleged doping in cycling, you are tuning in every day to be lied to and treated like an idiot. What is the point?
If Pogacar used one of the bikes from 90s he would not be much faster that is for sure
From the 2000s
What does a two minute advantage say about professional cycling? Maybe Lance was right. You have to be into it to win it.
C’mon man! Who are they kidding?
seems the covid card is also a trump card; no relation to the incident today.
Which incident
@@cyclinghighlights leftists tried to take DJT out.
The kiss blowing, masked man is finished..
so sad the peloton doesn't give a chance to Benny Hilly to win the stage....would be a dream to dedicate the victory to Piccolo....hopefully he will win....Forza Benny Hillyyyyy the celtic tiger 🤣🤣
Lance was the only one who admitted that’s all, he’s still #1
Pogačar G.O.A.T.🚀
It's a small assist located in the rear hub. That's all I can say.
Tom "Can you turn the cameras off" Pidcock
Do we actually think they aren't doping????
No...Next question
Some people actually do, just like 20 years ago when we watched Lance destroy everyone, this is Lance all over again, minus the aggression and ruining people's lives over it etc etc.
Yes. It's always people who weren't even alive when Armstrong was riding.
Pogi also got a lot of help from a motorbike and car in front of him.
The new juice!