Because content creators are not normal people. They are people sure and have their own qualities and defects but you cannot make it as a public figure if you are like everyone else.
this isnt abnormal. most adults have had a toxic relationship by 30. unfortunately 75% of people who care about the drama are v1rgs whove never slept in someone elses bed.
Man, I don't have much relationship experience, but this just sounds like an awful relationship. Of course it's only one side of the story but it sounds really, really bad on Coder's end, and I want to say to people in any relationship that if some of this shit happens, you should just cut it off and don't look back. Imagine having a girl who wants to play Yu-Gi-Oh with you and you're trying to get her coach to quit? Insane.
its not insane at all. why would you want your friends staying in contact with your ex gf? the "i dont have much relationship experience" speaks wonders
Honestly, Lofton needs to be completely canceled for this situation. I respect Coder and Laura for keeping as much of this off the internet as they did, and it should've stayed off. It was resolved, Coder and Laura broke up, and they are now staying away from each other, and it was buried as it should've been. Then Lofton comes in with malicious intent and decides to unearth this so that he can be some internet savior. Laura did not want to necessarily want Lofton to release the information, but he did so without consent anyway. Yes, I understand that Coder and Laura did horrible things to each other, some of which leaned more one way to another, but that happens in a relationship where both partners abuse each other. Coder and Laura were in the wrong for not handling the relationship properly. Coder's friends were also in the wrong for not intervening to stop Coder from losing his shit. Laura's friends are in the same boat. Should all of them be held accountable? Absolutely not. This shit had already been dealt with behind as many closed doors as it has. We're human, we make mistakes, but I see calls to cancel Coder because of his shortcomings in this relationship. Should we also cancel Laura too for being abusive to Coder? Should we then cancel the inner friend groups of the individuals who could've properly supported both of them and separated both of them before the real problems began? No, we shouldn't have to cancel Coder, Laura, and their groups for improperly handling this shitshow. We should not go after Coder due to this, as there is no point in doing so. We should instead go after Lofton for bringing this to light as it should've stayed in the dark. Lofton has always had problems, and this is just one that we can't look away from. We should cancel Lofton, and then we should wait if Coder makes his official public response and see what happens next.
This 100% It was sorted between the two of them. They handled it like adults and sorted it behind closed doors despite having an audience. They had moved on and (hopefully) have grown from it to be better people. They both clearly hated it and feel remorseful from the whole ordeal. People need to stop this parasocial "holier than thou" bullshit and just leave it alone. People's reaction to all this is what Lofton wanted and congrats. You're all playing into his hand. Note: this is from someone who doesn't really watch coder anymore since Master Duel cuz I find that content kinda cringe.
I think if you wanted to get a point across you should edit this down. Lofton is an asshole, yea we’ve gotten that covered. But it’s not the real problem here, he wasn’t the abused, abuser, or enabler; just the glorifier.
You are acting like Lofton abused someone. If this is how Coder acts, then he and Leblanc should both be banned since I personally wouldn't feel safe from them. Honestly they both need to go to jail.
@@SonuTheNecroboth Laura and coder abused each other. Stevie, being friends with Laura, clearly decided to omit many facts about the situation. Why do you think she deserves a free pass?
@@SonuTheNecro It's a dick move to break news that isn't yours, especially when it's very sensitive and private matters. If what happened was handled behind closed doors then re-opening the wound is only a net negative for all parties involved because misinformation, hate and ignorance spreads worse than a virus.
Holy shit I see why Coder had to tell his side of his story. This video makes him seem like the worst thing ever when Laura was super toxic as hell and there are witnesses of her hitting Coder and he didnt fucking smother her he just put the pillow to her face for a second to try to get her to lower her voice NOT smother like throw her on the floor and try to suffocate her or some shit. This is why videos like this are awful when the other side hasnt said their side of the story where Laura makes it seem this was one sided abuse as most toxic women do all the time. Laura made it seem she was the only victim when she abused him physically non stop. Coder DID NOT call the police and never forced her to some psychological ward when that is police protocol. His father did when Coder was crying thinking she was serious as she even made a post saying goodbye to the world with a pic of the street. Also she was provoked him nonstop saying shed run away with a male friend who was constantly flirting with her and she never set boundaries with any male friends and coder literally just had old likes from before their relationship of random instagram girls. He never was actively looking at them later in their relationship and never hung out with females unlike Laura who went out to drink with male friends that would make any man wary especially if one of them has shown to try to get laid with her. Women get to abuse men and when the man yells back its the man is a piece of shit and poor woman got hurt. Please dont disresepect men being vicitims of domestic violence as in relationships like this the one time a man gets semi physical he is seen as the worst and the woman like Laura who punched his throat, slammed a door on his hand, punched him in the chest and slapped him with him not resisting is not domestic abuse apparently?! At the end of the day BOTH were in the wrong. BOTH were toxic abusers BUT Coder was never physically abusive that is a lie unlike Laura who punched him in the throat and slammed doors on his hands. Both were controlling and jealous as Laura had him take nonstop pictures of where he was at and would stalk his social media and confuse old likes of random instagram girls for new ones. She would threaten him constanlty with implied cheating on him with the guy that was nonstop around her. That "guy" friend that girls SWEAR theyd never do anything with. Im not saying Coder is some saint. He was an asshole but Laura was just as bad if not worse who twists events to make it seem worse than it is. People please learn to hear both sides. There are witnesses to her toxic behavior so this isnt anedoctal shit from Coder. Legit witnesses that can vouch how toxic and manipulative she was and he responded in kind unfortunately. But I hate this notion he beat her and smothered her with a pillow when that is not the case. Ive seen toxic relationships. Ive had a brother I lived with who let his girl hit him all the time over small shit she got randomly mad at. One day he literally just grabbed her arm to stop her punch and she screamed bloody mary he was abusing her even though he had scars from her abuse. He immediately was seen as the bad guy and no one believed him he literally just grabbed her arm to stop her punch once Coder and Laura have moved on from this shit and this is in the past. People act like they wouldnt snap at someone like Laura yelling at you, punching you, gas lighting you, threatening to cheat on you or threaten to do OF to manipulate you. Im surprised Coder took 3 years of that because I would have been dipped. I wrote all this shit that will be probably ignored by simping white knights who believe woman are not toxic when theyve never seen women like that but you live with one and youll see how good they are at being the victim and exaggerating things as their PoV theyre the victim and never did wrong. Always listen to BOTH sides. Glad people here arent judges because yall would give people death sentences for stopping a punch or a kick from a women.
While I agree with everything you said here, I was under the impression Coder has went physical before. You could say it was only after she did so it was in self defense by then, but you probably still shouldn't do that to someone you're supposed to be caring about. But yeah, Coder being painted as the sole villain is ridiculous.
I know I'm 4 months late but thanks this was very informative as I couldn't find the other side of the story in detail. I only came to find out about this because I had Coder listed as an Inspiration to me as a Content Creator and someone told me I should probably remove it. So I thank you for taking the time to explain the other side so others can make their own proper informed decisions for themselves.
So let me get this straight. Laura admits to being toxic and physical, there's a VOD of her blaming herself for everything. Coder makes a statement saying he admits to being toxic and physical and regrets everything. They're no longer together. So whats the issue here? This is two people that shouldn't be together realizing they shouldn't be together. You can't blame Laura for feeling awful enough to want to hurt herself. You can't blame Coder for wanting to make sure she's fine in that situation - anyone would do the same for anyone else, especially someone they knew or once knew. They're both people that have made big mistakes and they're both working out how to get through it. The only issue I see here is that they're both getting flak from a certain someone making this public, and the only true "wrong" committed here that hasn't been sorted out in private is the fact that this even went public, especially so far after the fact. There was no good reason to make this public. No one that cares for either of their wellbeings would spread this. But it's now been spread, and now we have to deal with that. You can't un-reveal information.
I agree there’s no reason to the public at all it’s just him trying to spread a little bit of misinformation so that his friend doesn’t get him the same troubles coder also pushing coder down further down in the situation is pissing me off because even though coder is also responsible, it doesn’t matter that he’s trying to claim. Laura didn’t do much at all while coder did a lot of it and saying that he should be banned and that his friendship it just shows he’s trying to put bias into this to spread this information to make it to where coder seems like the full of bad guy
@@isaiahjack3140 Sorry if I missed it, I said I just meant like the way he makes it sound coder Is a very bad guy, but I also know that coder is also one of my favorite people to watch That’s why I still trust coder
Coder has shown several times he has anger issues. Not really only in his relationship with Laura but he's thrown strays at people that were not even trying to be hurtful towards him. I might be misremebering the situation context wise, but during a stream during the dkayed situation that got him banned to begin with I remember farfa being in chat and saying something mundane, to which Kevin responded to with: "You're just gonna fucking react to this on your channel after it's all done." or something along those lines, yelling and implying farfa was not there to be helpful or friendly towards him. His character (the raging at ygo, etc) sure has seen some exaggeration on stream, but the guy clearly has issues with controlling his aggression, specially with people he seems to be close with. During his subathon I clearly remember that he also was arguing with Laura at some point on screen, mics on. It wasn't an argument that escalated to the degree shown in screenshots or the ones described by both parties, but if that's how he has behaved on camera, fuck, man... I cannot begin to imagine how he was in fucking private. He needs help and he needs to be away for a while before he says or does something tha the regrets more than just tarnishing his online career.
To be fair Farfa seems like the shit ass friend who likes to poke buttons when people are mad. If I was banned from something I love more than anything I’d probably be pretty irrational too, look at Tatsym.
@@dpacula63 That wasn't even what happened that time, he wasn't even banned at the time, the situation didn't merit implying farfa was just there to content farm. None of this is justified lmao
@rienobuko4324 DistantCoder has beefed with like 4 different Yu-Gi-Oh! Content creators, one of them being Ruggles. Who tf beefs with Ruggles? 🤣 Coder is just a toxic individual.
lofton only relevancy too yugioh is always drama, and serious situations he shouldnt be involving himself in. honestly this shouldnt even be a video, everyones misery is only used for content and drama engagement. no one learns anything. should have summarized it and called out Lofton instead.
"If a person I don't like does terrible things we should cancel him to death. But if my friend does it, it's a tragedy and probably there is a reason for that to happen, everyone should focus in their own bussinesses" That's such a bs mentality that I have seen in the ygo community. Hipocrisy at its finest
It's really hard. I have a ex-friend who I thought the world of, in the end it turned out that she was terrible towards her husband and child and when i learnt i didn't believe it. I knew her for years and never would have thought she would do such things. I'm still not past it even after cutting ties with her.
While I'm a big fan of the likes of MBT and Farfa whonI believe are friends with Coder, Coder himself has always had a weird energy that felt completely off putting.
Fuck Coder but you also need to reflect on your characterization of the "psych ward" incident. Going off the information YOU provided, Laura said she was going to kill herself, while drunk, and Coder called the police. Did Coder know 100% she wasn't going to do this? Did her friends she was with contact Coder to even say "fuck off she's fine she's with us" or something? If not, then why shouldnt he call the police? Just because someone hasn't threatened self harm in the past doesn't mean you shouldn't take as threat of it seriously. Imagine if she did do what she threatened to do. Then the story would have been "She told Coder what she was going to do and he didn't even care enough to report it and try to stop it".
This. I'm not going to defend coder's actions (as it's undoubtedly messed up), but I've been in a relationship similar to this (not as extreme, but yes, I was emotionally abusive), and I believe him when he says that there was abuse on both sides. Unrelated to my relationship, I've been admitted to a psych ward "against my will" for the same reason that Laura was. That video she took was at the hospital, before going to the psych ward. As Stevie said himself, she had no cell access there, which is true, they basically hold certain belongings from you (like cell phones) while you're there. I can imagine if I were in her scenario and wanted to paint a bad picture of what had happened, it would have been very easy to do so. In regards to the audio of the elderly person at the hospital... I mean I've been to the hospital before and heard people in severe pain, that doesn't mean they're being neglected. When you're taken to the hospital for the reason that she was, you stay there at MOST overnight, then you're taken to the psych ward, where they generally care for you pretty well. I do not believe the claim that they were drawing blood from her every hour. In a psych ward you have your blood drawn once a day, and the patients are basically called in small groups to have their blood tested (likely one group per hour, based on her claims). It's easy to paint this as some horrific thing, but it's done for the patients' safety (as many of them have drug problems). So... idk, just wanted to share my personal experience for perspective. Hopefully Stevie sees this reply (or anyone for that matter)
@@BigBahss so you have been to the psych ward in the same place she went to? because I saw several people saying they treat you terribly there. and you are the only person I saw saying they treat you well.
Exactly. Coder made a response how that part of the story happen and what had happened was she threatened him saying she had found some guy who said he loved her and how he was a better man than Coder would ever be insuniating she would cheat to rile Coder up and then she threaten to jump into the street when Coder got mad. She didn't answer a single call and he couldn't reach her. Also she wasn't with friends. She was on her own hanging out with people at that bar and had constantly hung out with "guy" friends at bars by herself where if Coder had done that he'd been seen as a womanizer. No man is going to be okay with their women getting drunk with men who have actively tried to get with their girlfriend. Anyways she also made a social media post saying Bye and a picture of the street insuinating she was serious on her threat which made Coder freak out BUT his father called the police on his own against Coders wishes as Coder wasn't sure what to do. Also police protocol puts you in a ward when you threaten sucidie and she must have visibly shown signs of being unstable if they treated her that rough with treatments. They wouldn't have treated her if she was chill and admitted it was all a ruse to make her boyfriend scared and they'd chalked it up to some dumb GF but she clearly must have been belligerent for them to take caution. People act like Coder told the cops to throw her in there when she brought that on herself on threaten something you SHOULD NEVER do to anyone. That is signs of an unstable person to threaten sucidie to the point you make goodbye posts.
Yeah, I saw that, and it was more like helping more than causing trouble (if only they had good Healthcare) If someone did that to me when I needed to, I would be thankful that happened. Sometimes, professional help could make you get perspectives that you didn't have, even if in this case, it was literally ending your relationship I wish Healthcare conditions gets better for everyone lol
Lofton always finds a way to sound petty AF. I'm very surprised about all of this and now so many little things I noticed are so much clearer. I remember when Coder and Laura were testing how he'll stream at locals and she looked like COMPLETE shit, it was a near 180 compared to other times she appeared on stream. 6:44 Being an autistic person myself, something about this part caught my eye. His long pause didn't feel like a "trying to find an excuse", rather it seems like he was realizing that he never fully grasped how bad his past actions were. This doesn't change how I feel about said actions, I um... honestly IDK how to describe it, I just simply found it interesting.
Odd, maybe if Coder wasnt a hypocrite attacking Chris and sending his fans after him its almost like the private information wouldn't have been released? Coders a hypcorite and thats all lofton wanted to show. The amount of death threats and harrassment Chris gets when Coder did the exact same thing should not be ignored. Defending coder in this situation just proves you dont care about the actual situation at all and are just defending your streamer.
While I share your standpoint on this matter stevie, you're way to bias against coder in the reporting/ summary. I expect some bias since Laura is your friend AND Kevin/ Coder looks like the way bigger partner at fault here... to say that every move of him is wrong, especially the psychiatric ward: She hung up on him after threatened him with suicide while in a intoxicated state of mind and in a way to toxic relationship... so is the big threat of her going to ooof her self? Yes... he actually did the right thing by alerting the professionals/ emergency service to check up on her. Did he know that she's going to be in a shit psychward? No. Was he responsible for the state of the psychiatric ward to any capacity? Also no. So to say that he's close to solely responsible for this part is flat out wrong and shows way to much bias against him. Again I'm still agreeing with the statement that he is a narcissistic, anger filled controll freak that need to better him self but both of them are at fault in this toxic relationship. Instead of saying that Coder needs to leave this space for good you only should need to say that he needs to better him self as a person under any circumstances. So yeah in summary: both of them were toxic lovers and we all just hope that they better them self. Learn the mistakes and move on. Oh yeah and fuck lofton.
THANK YOU! I have a bad habit of doom scrolling comment sections for no reason, and I'm shocked how many people have failed to notice many instances of Stevie being biased against Coder, and just want Coder removed from the community no questions asked. Again, Coder did fuck up, but it sounds like Laura was just as bad. I've had exe's that would think of oofing themselves a lot, and it really pushed my mental health. So I say in the circumstances, Coder made the best call that he made this entire relationship. I myself self reflect regularly and am still learning many things about myself. So for what it sounds, Laura and Coder are gonna need a lot of self reflection and therapist to help them try to be better people. And all this was dealt with in private, but Lofton just wanted the last laugh, so he just wanted to be petty and just created the shitshow, which even gave enough public knowledge of the situation for a video to even be made. So I agree, fuck lofton.
Yeah idk. People are acting like the best option would've been for Coder to do nothing. So now what? She potentially actually offs herself and now these same people are going to call him a heartless monster who ignored her cries for help in her final hour.
Both Laura and Kevin were terrible to each other. However, Coder is a hypocrite for being outspoken against certain yugioh players but has his own skeletons in his closet related to abuse that he was a part of. Sexual, emotional, psychological, and physical abuse - the implications of any type of abuse can be dire consequences for victims because of the trauma that is attached it and there is a large spectrum on how someone experiences/deals with traumatic events. Moreover, the whole pillow thing in itself is so pathological in nature because of its implications., even if it was for 1 second or there was immediate regret. The fact that Coder prevented Laura from receiving coaching from Pak is telling of how pervasive his mental health was at the time. However, Laura appears to have also been extremely abusive too, as she admits to being "toxic" and there were talks amongst both being physcial, throwing the phone and hurting Kevin, slapping, and punching in the throat. This should be well prefaced because of the stigma related to violence of women towards men in relationships. Both were in a co-dependent, trauma-bonding-like cyclical relationship. Based on both streams, both were abusive, insecure, controlling, manipulative, coercive, selfish, and appear to be liars (e.g., minimizing their part or conveniently leaving out information[not that they owe us any information]) based on both of their sides explaining their side of the story. I hope they both can get help because they need it.
This might be distasteful to say, and probably not of the best time, but that sounds like somthing that can be called "match made in hell" of relationship. 😅
in the grand scheme of the situation, Laura seemed to be a huge gaslighter and put alot of stress on Coder, obviously that doesn't make his behavior warranted. But when someone is under that amount of stress constantly, his reaction is honestly EXTREMELY tame. My mom is the same way to my dad and she was the same way to her other 4 ex husbands. She would constantly berrate them and belittle them, going for personal attacks. Then one day they would snap and beat the shit out of her. Obviously, beating the shit out of her is not the right thing. But none of them never went to jail as they all proved that she was manipulating them and gaslighting them into a fit of rage.
@ieatwater6550 you are correct, we should definitely only side with one party that we enjoy the most. As a feminist I'll go with Laura so I can see the bad white man as the abuser and completely remove any nuance from the conversation only to serve my own catharsis.
Stevie Blunder sure did a blunder on this stand. 1st: They should not have air this stupid relationship out in the open. 2nd: They both are in the wrong for physically and mentally abuse each other. 3rd: Suicide threats should not be taken lightly, since feeling changes over time INTERNALLY and rarely surface, both of them DID admit of saying ""off themselves" to each other. 4th: Both of them need to walk away from the Internet and work on themselves instead of trying to find acknowledgement from strangers if they are right or wrong.
OMG FINALLY someone who understands and not just attacks the male in the relationship bc "we always go after the male unless he is completely innocent and all abuse was done by the female". You are so right both of them are at fault. Also stevie says f*ck coder and support laura... wtf... support both of them... they uqually at fault and equally need it...
Yeah, cause it makes me frustrated that he’s not giving all the information and just being biased in the video especially because people are explaining the actual situation making the video obviously being biased when you read the comments and watch it
Firstly, I feel like it needs to be said that I believe many of the allegations against Coder and the fact that he was physical with a partner is unacceptable. That being said, the way that blunder here qualifies Laura’s physical violence with Coder is such a bad look. (To be clear not times where she is defending herself obvi) but if there is not reason to be the aggressor and physically violent with someone than even if Coder is hiding text messages and cheating it does not mean you can be violent. I’m sorry.
as a person who was on both ends of abusive relationships i must say that both abuser and abused are so fucked up during and after such relationships that they both need serious therapy. I hope both Laura and Kevin will go to some therapy and will be able to heal from this traumatic experience.
That’s the thing though. Laura wanted to work through and go to therapy. Coder failed to keep his promise to stick with therapy. Coder even admits to trying three different therapists, and he blamed the therapists for them not working. Which is totally narcissistic.
@@davidmesa7008Not necessarily narcissistic, it's just how people think therapy works, just like in depression, therapist will never hand over you a magic solution, unlike with medicine, it's not an external factor you can "eliminate" from your body, therapist won't tell you the solution, just point the problem and give you an array of tool you can use to find a solution to it, but people dont want that, they want the solution to be given to them, and because therapists will never give it to you, you feel like they're scamming you, because when you don't see any progress being done without you proactively working on it, it's easy to dismiss therapy as useless no matter how many people you see, the funny thing is, more often than not, when you manage to get out of the hole, it's by your own, because that's what therapy is supposed to do, but you feel like you did all the work and the therapy was a waste of time.
@@davidmesa7008 You do not work through this stuff. Especially since you cant trust either party with the other. Therapists especially in the US and Canada are also not exactly high quality.
I will add that it’s completely reasonable for a guy to not want his gf thirst trapping on the internet or hanging out with guys who she knows want to f her. Weird that people are fixating on that considering the much worse things being thrown around
@@MegaMetal96Context is pretty important, while it isn’t a bad idea to have your partner sent to get help if they’re unwell, if you both have a history of violence, jealousy, manipulation, and pettiness, it completely changes the context from what is most likely an act of love and fear to an act of control. Felt pretty cut and dry, you can’t just take that point as it is alone
9:50 I dont condemn you for being biased but that framing is disingenuous: calling the police because someone made a suicide threat and you cannot reach them is trying to get them admitted in a psych ward, it's the most reasonable way to handle that situation. Trying to frame this as a controlling move seems extremely unfair.
She was literally with her friends, they could’ve handled her. Plus like Stevie said, she only said that because Coder was being an angry controlling abusive asshole. Instead of stopping and reflecting on how he was treating her to make her say that, he did the most psychotic thing possible.
@Cerdoconpatas the context adds to show Coder's character, but nonetheless there was not a better way to handling this issue if Laura wasn't responding to calls and was no way of calling her friends who were with her. It is an awful situation, but it stems from a relationship that in the first place should no have lasted that long.
@davidmesa7008 mate, if someone loses a ygo game and says "im gonna kill myself" it means nothing. If someone is having a very heated and emotional argument with their SO and says it, then that has weight. It is exactly because of Coders attitude that that reaction was warranted.
Oftentimes, even if a relationship goes a bit sour, theres still a great Deal of love and affection for each other left, which makes leaving a relationship really difficult. Especially since you know they were better and more loving once. And jumping on another comment Made before me, IT IS very difficult leaving an abusive relationship, especially if you're very co-dependent.
For everyone chiming in y'all weren't in that relationship, and y'all don't know how toxic a relationship can be at times. Both parties mistake was not walking away from each other a lot sooner. And they're so called friends not keeping a buck to both of them. Everyone gonna choose a side, but what I hate is people using other's personal business for clicks and views. We don't need TMZ in this community. Everyone wishing ill on another, you really need to work on your soul.
if you read my comment it will tell you a story of my own run-in with them in Dueling Book i even gave them a second chance and gave them a sub on UA-cam even though they wronged me but i just unsubbed a few moments ago as in the TCG community there are some sick idiots out there and that's the sad truth and i am even a believer of all women take some form of self-defense class just in case god forbid the worse happens and they need a way to defend themself and escape
I was never a big fan of coder because I saw him as a content creator who gets needlessly loud and can be irritating (to me) as a result. I did respect his admittedly nice niche of being a rulings centric yugituber. Never thought he was like THIS though. What in the actual hell man 😮
your whole video is biased lmao. especially the part about the hospital. in canada police cannot take someone away to a mental health unit unless the police get an admission from that person that they are a threat to themselves or see direct that they intend to injure themselves immediately. if she was taken to a mental health unit its because she admitted herself your significant other cannot admit you to a mental health unit. the amount of facts that were admitted by both parties you got wrong shows your intention is to support your friend and discredit your competition. saying "im gonna go drive off a bridge" when theres no bridge to drive off is a lot different than saying "im gonna jump in front of a truck" and then sending a picture saying "bye" with you standing next to a major intersection. would you rather have a phone thrown at you or a pillow? youre right it is like comparing a bucket of water to an ocean of abuse.
Coder has always been a hot head this isn’t surprising 🤦🏻 just watch when he plays and starts losing or makes shitty plays, he gets an attitude. If he’s gonna get heated over a card game obviously he’s gonna get heated in something more serious
I haven't been in the ygo scene for like a year so I'm just finding out about this given Coder's "return". I've seen Coder's weirdness with Laura on stream in the past and all of it just makes sense now. I don't think this should have ever been public, Lofton is fked for that but at the same time I think people who follow Coder should know what he did. It's just a terrible situation.
Is nobody ignoring this guy portrays coder in the worst light possible, is lying about not being a drama youtuber, gives 0 chatity to him, says that coder being concerted about his girlfriend suicide baiting is abuse and is biased towards his friend? Both of the people in this situaiton seem awful, but what world needs less of is "concerned friends" making biased accusations in order to "protect their friend". This guy is Nickisnotgreen of the Yugioh community.
So heres the thing, i havent liked coder since the d-kayed drama. It was pretty clear by his uncalled for and unprompted aggressive behavior towards d-kayed he couldnt control his emotions. MBT (love him, but defending indefensible behavior isnt being a good friend, its enabling poor behavior) defended coder with the line "you know what i love about coder, hes so honest, hes always 100%" for anyone else out there reading this, if you cant control yourself or your emotions and start insulting people over relatively minor things like the very understandable mistake of what is or is not legal in online yigioh, you are not honest, youre a child. YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOURSELF.
Thank you for actually covering this. I'm ashamed at all of Coders friends in the YGO community who want to remain silent even after Laura and Coder have said their peace. Thank you for always being the person who speaks out against these things and I hope Laura heals from this.
Btw making it very much clear, the framing of this and the majority of the this frames coder as the sole abuser. This is not true and it's very easy to be swayed into thinking that. They were very much just as bad for each other as each other. Very toxic all around and both need to split and stay very far away from each other
Damn this situation just sucks :/ i feel really sorry for Laura and i hope shes happier now... also kinda sad that coder will be shunned from the community since i found his videos enjoyable, but that isnt even close to justify his behaviour
If this is all true then I hope his yugituber friends have some actual integrity and shun him like the community did with LeBlanc (?) But genuinely dont know if that is gonna happen.
Hi, Nurse here. I work in psychiatry in Sweden, and do take care of people who are there against their will (under LPT, the Law of Forced Psychiatric Care). It gets rough sometimes. Being forcibly admitted is a traumatic event for anyone, and I hope that your friend hasn't lost faith in our profession because of it. Can't speak for anyone else, but I take great care to try to help my patients through what is perhaps the worst time in their lives, and ensure they never feel abused or abandoned.
How is this any better than Lofton? Both parties have said their piece and ur just rehashing what has already been said for clicks n views. Your bit on the hospital shows a complete lack of awareness of how that works which makes sense if u never leave ur house
Months late to the party but thats why you dont say anything inferring you are suidical unless you are 100% sure. Law officers and hospitals dont play with that, everything that happen to her while admitted is common practice. Coder didnt do anything wrong in that aspect because, 1. He cant make the ultimatum that she even goes, her own words are what decided that unless you are completely out of it. Being drunk absolutely didnt help. 2. You have no idea how someone is going to react when they threaten to selfharm so a panicked response isnt so absurd. Probably not the first time shes threatened it before. That phone call doesnt happen that quick with someone you've known for a long time. Those 2 sounded awful for each other and this deadass shouldve stayed private
I only watched the very beginning but it seems to me like he's biased towards coder bein the bad guy, he said while "coder was screaming in her face" several times while trying to minimize any time the chick hit him by providing a context that "she was just frustrated?" All the while tge screenshot he kept on screen has nothing to do with what he is describing and it's about 2 other people talking about coder. News flash when people have a break up especially if it's a nasty one people have a tendency to shit talk their Ex to drum up sympathy points for themselves
I might get a lot of hate for saying this but, I (am / used to be) a distant coder fan! I don’t know how I feel about this news. I’m having a hard time processing the news. It’s just like the “SkyDoesMinecraft” situation all over again… I am just shocked that he would do such a thing?! Coder was my hero, he made me laugh with his bishbaalkin videos, I know I’m going to miss him if he leaves the platform but like you said it’s probably for the best.
So what’s crazy is one I want someone neutral to tell the story between the 2 cause this video is only showing coder to be the bad guy which he is but I don’t wanna hear the woman had issues too but u don’t go into deep detail like u do for coder if they both abused each other why is it that the girl get a list of things but coder got the rest of the video it seem like ur completely only going after him to help the girl stay in good grace
The reason that’s it’s not neutral is that he’s friends with Lauren. Any admission of her doing wrong would likely make her turn on him. The only way to get all the information is to go through all the screenshots and VODs yourself. It seems though that many are trying to compare the actions to either justify what Laura did, or ignore it outright by saying what coder did was worse. At the end of the day, what is clear, is that they were both toxic and abusive individuals who should never have been together.
The only reason this stuff was leaked in the first place was because Coder kept harrassing Chris and Lofton just wanna to prove hes a hypcorite which personally I have nothing wrong with. Attacking someone for something when you privaetly do the same thing is so fucking weird.
I typed MBT into the search bar on youtube and this was the third video. I don't play yugioh and haven't watched any yugioh content in months, but was wondering if he was still posting.
Y’all need to stop acting like this is the abuse Olympics tallying up who was hurt the most to determine the winner. Both parties have admitted to being abusive physically and mentally, nobody wins in this kind of relationship and that’s a fact.
I disliked Coder before this drama just because I thought he was annoying. But seeing how many people are against just him and not Laura when both parties are at fault makes me feel kind of bad for him.
@@andrejv.2834 Yeah maybe, I'm not defending him nor do I want to but Laura getting a pass for physical abuse just because everyone is against Coder is kind of crazy.
@@somethingasd6377 I don't think she's getting much of a pass, just not as much criticism as coder, which is fair here imo Also this video doesn't show all the details, laura herself made a near 3 hour vod where she discusses the things she did that hurt coder, and the things he did to hurt her, just putting it out there, if you care about this whole thing enough and have the patience to watch it all Also another reason why she maybe doesn't get criticised as much as some think she should is because she already blames herself, maybe even too much, in said vod, for a lot of things that went wrong
@@andrejv.2834you’d be surprised, speaking Ill of Laura for her actions will get you seen as a coder meatrider, or whatever other term they fancy saying. There’s also others who chime in saying ‘but coder was worse’ when they talk about Laura’s actions. Ultimately how much they did doesn’t really matter in the context of saying that Laura is an abuser. There is no threshold that needs to be met to be labelled an abuser, yet people have been acting as if there is. It’s like if you were to compare 2 killers, one killed 5, the other 10. Yes on killer killed more people, sure, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have issue with the other. It doesn’t mean that we should treat what they did as fine or negligible just because someone else did ‘more’. Coder has rightfully stepped away and sought help. Lauren, aside from the VOD, has generally been acting as if she was just a victim and had done no wrong. As far as I’m aware at least, she hasn’t sought help for her behaviour. Yes what Laura went through was horrible. In the same way, what coder went through was also horrible. People don’t seem to understand that it was just a toxic relationship between two people that should have never been together. They’re both terrible people.
@@jamesmacey1673 regarding the "coder meatriders", while yes they are bad comments, I've only seen them on posts that just defend coder, not ones that talk about both, although tbf I'm not really engaging with this outside of the vod so I could've missed some Also wasn't laura already getting help? I think i saw that somewhere but I could be misremembering And not trying to defend her, but I from what we heard I think the only action she did bad on her own without being provoked by coder (not saying that slapping, closing a door on his hand or throwing his phone were warranted) was yelling, as she says she used to yell a lot at him too early on, but stopped when both of them found out coder had anxiety, and being yelled at probably didn't help with not only that but also his insecurities Although this is something both need a lot of help for, even for people who don't have anxiety or insecurities, a lot of yelling won't lead to a nice relationship
Thanks for the explaination.... I was confused why there was so less Videos of coder... But Yeah... Is coder still alive? When He says that He wants to Crash his car... And wants to Die without her? Have no social Media... Is also a serious meant question...
Yeah they were both toxic, but the way Coder would control her, get mad at the way she dressed, posted in IG, Streamed, told her people only watch her because she was attractive, etc. it’s all textbook misogyny.
@@Kylada-o5tinsecurity and misogyny work hand in hand. A lot of the people who are Uber incels or people who listen to Andrew Tate are insecure (not saying Kevin is an incel, just using that as an example). Saying a woman is success entirely because she is attractive is a misogynistic mindset. Also, being controlling of a woman's outfits and saying that she's "wearing it to get the attention of men" is also misogynistic. Both are meant to show that either a) women only have an audience because of men being attracted to their looks and b) women only dress for the attention of men.
Both need some help, but Coder needs way more AND needs to be held accountable and own up to what he's done. He clearly has issues that need addressing, but that does NOT excuse the behavior
You are being too subjective. I'm not a fan of coder but your judgement on him through the police situation sounds extremely biased. Laura threatened to harm herself, coder calling the police is not an unreasonable response to ensure her safety.
So happy for Stevie being one of the first YGO react andies that got to cover this drama. Rookie mistake for not including any sponsors or ads in the video but it is what it is.
You've got problems lil bro. Not defending him by any means but feeding off this shit like it's some entertaining Saturday morning TV series is fucking sick. Get help.
this is so depressing. It's very difficult for me to recommend games like yugioh to women in my life knowing how common guys like this are within the community.
@@jamesmacey1673 I don't even care about this being a men are shit situation. This kind of behaviour is endemic of figureheads in largely male-centred communities. Where individuals are acknowledged and given platforms for their skill or social influence within such a group , there is always gonna be those who abuse it. Looking at esports, card games, art communities etc; it's usually guys who exhibit controlling behaviour, where most of their friends are members of the community who hold them in high esteem.
@@jamesmacey1673 I dont really care to explain this further, as I can see there are many crawling up Kevin's ass right now and congratulating him for stating that he might seek a therapist. This community has such an ugly side man
@@melleen629 he didn’t ‘abuse’ the position he had, he was just a shit person in a shit relationship with somebody just as shit. Anyone who tries to minimise Laura’s part in all this clearly doesn’t care about the actual issue, abuse, and is just using it as a means to spew their sexism.
@@jamesmacey1673 I'm sorry if I'm in a relationship and someone's hitting me. Go to the f****** cops. To try to get a restraining order against them I'm sorry I don't care about the excuses go to the f****** cops. The first time your boyfriend or girlfriend hits you your first instinct should go to the police. Not we can work through this
Idk why we are making Coder the bad guy. Like- how is that the take away after watching this. I see y’all in the comments when- he’s not They BOTH would argue and yell and from what I see- SHE was physically abusive FIRST and for awhile before he started also being abusive So- ITS ON BOTH OF THEM Also the photos…Coder is right. Coder is right about those SPECIFICALLY. She is showing off her ass. That’s- just true. That was her purpose for the photos. Now I’m not saying doing this is a bad thing- but it is what she was doing. Just the truth
And? Why do people make such a big deal about women just being comfortable showing themselves like that. Yeah, he's discussed that he was not comfortable with her doing that (or the potential of her opening an OF) and if that is the boundary that he is gonna latch onto that was broken, then he should've also broken up at that point; however, he tried and succeeded at controlling what she did, said and how she behaved around and with others. People bashing on her for showing her ass or showing more skin is just retarded ass incel behavior.
While from the context of the video I tend to agree with most of this, they’re both awful people who abused each other to maybe not equal but comparable amounts, the part about the pictures is a bit stupid, early on in the video Stevie mentions that coder was LITERALLY HIDING TEXTS from Laura, while coder actively acted like an insecure man baby when it came to how she dressed consistently. Coder wasn’t just “pointing out what she was wearing” he has shown a history of berating her based off what she wears despite the fact that he himself was being shady af with another woman. That’s insanity he also clearly gets super insecure around other men based on what Laura has said, so with the context to say he’s right about the pics feels a bit dishonest
@@Ekatkid What I’m about to say might be completely wrong BUT I thought the time when he was being suspicious with another girl was during the period she was physically abusive and before he started also being physically abusive. Making that whole situation slightly understandable on his end……and then he messed that up but getting physically too And saying he’s completely right about the clothes and picture she takes would be dishonest. Hes sometimes right. And other times he’s just being insane. But I feel like from what we see- he right most of the time. She is literally pushing her butt out towards the camera while wearing tight pants like…that’s on purpose. But her flexing for the camera in literally normal gym clothes showing a progress photo is just…normal Again I think they are both doing in the wrong and for now I GUESS coders in the wrong more. I mean he for sure did way more but at the same time I’m sure Laura left out the bad stuff she did and she did stuff first so- we’ll see who’s more in wrong later. For now they both wrong
It always gets me when people say the abuse is both ways, when one is the clear instigator and the other is responding to the instigation, often after being the peverbal bear being poked until they stop putting up with it and retaliate at said instigator, who then pretends to be the victim. Or Gaslighting 101.
ok so judging by the comments there seems to be side to the story that wasn't told here, and unfortunately it seems Coder deleted the VOD where he tells his side, but Coder has always struck me as a potentionally unhinged person so I'm not surprised he did some of the shit that's claimed against him Anyway I will comment on one thing I found odd in this video, Laura saying "I wish I wasn't good looking so I don't get attention" in response to Coder criticizing her instagram pics....I'm sorry what kind of response is that? she could've said "fine I'll delete all my photos" or "I'll stop posting pics of myself on my insta, is that what you want???" which would've made more sense, it doesn't matter if she'd do it, it's just a better response because obviously Coder's problem isn't that she's good looking, it's that she posts pics of herself there Second thing is, I'm sorry but that ass picture celebrating "her defeating anorexia" is just bs, no one in their right mind would believe that that picture isn't purely to get attention....like come ON She strikes me as an attention seeker....they both seem to be unlikeble people for different reasons
"For the most part I've tried to stay away from drama videos" feels pretty untrue but sure
I think he more meant recently and also was probably referring to the more serious drama like this and the JCD Godot situation a while back
Lol I think he's literally the only yugioh creator that actively makes drama videos
@@eringobraugh2485 there hasnt been any He makes vids on as much gross drama stuff as possible
@@ryanhall5360 as for now hes the only ygo related content creator who has made a video about this drama lmao
@@ryanhall5360honestly more power to him
Why is it so rare for content creators to have normal fucking relationships
Because content creators are not normal people. They are people sure and have their own qualities and defects but you cannot make it as a public figure if you are like everyone else.
Most people can’t have normal relationships that’s why.
Because they get affected most by parasocialism via social media
toxic relationships are extremely common. fact is 75% of people who care are virgins whove never slept in someone elses bed
this isnt abnormal. most adults have had a toxic relationship by 30. unfortunately 75% of people who care about the drama are v1rgs whove never slept in someone elses bed.
Didn't have this on my 2024 bingo card
Man, I don't have much relationship experience, but this just sounds like an awful relationship. Of course it's only one side of the story but it sounds really, really bad on Coder's end, and I want to say to people in any relationship that if some of this shit happens, you should just cut it off and don't look back. Imagine having a girl who wants to play Yu-Gi-Oh with you and you're trying to get her coach to quit? Insane.
Girls suck at this game tbf there's a reason it's male dominated
its not insane at all. why would you want your friends staying in contact with your ex gf? the "i dont have much relationship experience" speaks wonders
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Honestly, Lofton needs to be completely canceled for this situation. I respect Coder and Laura for keeping as much of this off the internet as they did, and it should've stayed off. It was resolved, Coder and Laura broke up, and they are now staying away from each other, and it was buried as it should've been.
Then Lofton comes in with malicious intent and decides to unearth this so that he can be some internet savior. Laura did not want to necessarily want Lofton to release the information, but he did so without consent anyway.
Yes, I understand that Coder and Laura did horrible things to each other, some of which leaned more one way to another, but that happens in a relationship where both partners abuse each other.
Coder and Laura were in the wrong for not handling the relationship properly. Coder's friends were also in the wrong for not intervening to stop Coder from losing his shit. Laura's friends are in the same boat. Should all of them be held accountable? Absolutely not. This shit had already been dealt with behind as many closed doors as it has.
We're human, we make mistakes, but I see calls to cancel Coder because of his shortcomings in this relationship. Should we also cancel Laura too for being abusive to Coder? Should we then cancel the inner friend groups of the individuals who could've properly supported both of them and separated both of them before the real problems began?
No, we shouldn't have to cancel Coder, Laura, and their groups for improperly handling this shitshow. We should not go after Coder due to this, as there is no point in doing so. We should instead go after Lofton for bringing this to light as it should've stayed in the dark. Lofton has always had problems, and this is just one that we can't look away from. We should cancel Lofton, and then we should wait if Coder makes his official public response and see what happens next.
This 100%
It was sorted between the two of them. They handled it like adults and sorted it behind closed doors despite having an audience. They had moved on and (hopefully) have grown from it to be better people. They both clearly hated it and feel remorseful from the whole ordeal.
People need to stop this parasocial "holier than thou" bullshit and just leave it alone.
People's reaction to all this is what Lofton wanted and congrats. You're all playing into his hand.
Note: this is from someone who doesn't really watch coder anymore since Master Duel cuz I find that content kinda cringe.
I think if you wanted to get a point across you should edit this down. Lofton is an asshole, yea we’ve gotten that covered. But it’s not the real problem here, he wasn’t the abused, abuser, or enabler; just the glorifier.
You are acting like Lofton abused someone. If this is how Coder acts, then he and Leblanc should both be banned since I personally wouldn't feel safe from them. Honestly they both need to go to jail.
@@SonuTheNecroboth Laura and coder abused each other.
Stevie, being friends with Laura, clearly decided to omit many facts about the situation.
Why do you think she deserves a free pass?
@@SonuTheNecro It's a dick move to break news that isn't yours, especially when it's very sensitive and private matters. If what happened was handled behind closed doors then re-opening the wound is only a net negative for all parties involved because misinformation, hate and ignorance spreads worse than a virus.
Holy shit I see why Coder had to tell his side of his story. This video makes him seem like the worst thing ever when Laura was super toxic as hell and there are witnesses of her hitting Coder and he didnt fucking smother her he just put the pillow to her face for a second to try to get her to lower her voice NOT smother like throw her on the floor and try to suffocate her or some shit.
This is why videos like this are awful when the other side hasnt said their side of the story where Laura makes it seem this was one sided abuse as most toxic women do all the time. Laura made it seem she was the only victim when she abused him physically non stop. Coder DID NOT call the police and never forced her to some psychological ward when that is police protocol. His father did when Coder was crying thinking she was serious as she even made a post saying goodbye to the world with a pic of the street. Also she was provoked him nonstop saying shed run away with a male friend who was constantly flirting with her and she never set boundaries with any male friends and coder literally just had old likes from before their relationship of random instagram girls. He never was actively looking at them later in their relationship and never hung out with females unlike Laura who went out to drink with male friends that would make any man wary especially if one of them has shown to try to get laid with her. Women get to abuse men and when the man yells back its the man is a piece of shit and poor woman got hurt. Please dont disresepect men being vicitims of domestic violence as in relationships like this the one time a man gets semi physical he is seen as the worst and the woman like Laura who punched his throat, slammed a door on his hand, punched him in the chest and slapped him with him not resisting is not domestic abuse apparently?!
At the end of the day BOTH were in the wrong. BOTH were toxic abusers BUT Coder was never physically abusive that is a lie unlike Laura who punched him in the throat and slammed doors on his hands. Both were controlling and jealous as Laura had him take nonstop pictures of where he was at and would stalk his social media and confuse old likes of random instagram girls for new ones. She would threaten him constanlty with implied cheating on him with the guy that was nonstop around her. That "guy" friend that girls SWEAR theyd never do anything with. Im not saying Coder is some saint. He was an asshole but Laura was just as bad if not worse who twists events to make it seem worse than it is.
People please learn to hear both sides. There are witnesses to her toxic behavior so this isnt anedoctal shit from Coder. Legit witnesses that can vouch how toxic and manipulative she was and he responded in kind unfortunately. But I hate this notion he beat her and smothered her with a pillow when that is not the case. Ive seen toxic relationships. Ive had a brother I lived with who let his girl hit him all the time over small shit she got randomly mad at. One day he literally just grabbed her arm to stop her punch and she screamed bloody mary he was abusing her even though he had scars from her abuse. He immediately was seen as the bad guy and no one believed him he literally just grabbed her arm to stop her punch once
Coder and Laura have moved on from this shit and this is in the past. People act like they wouldnt snap at someone like Laura yelling at you, punching you, gas lighting you, threatening to cheat on you or threaten to do OF to manipulate you. Im surprised Coder took 3 years of that because I would have been dipped. I wrote all this shit that will be probably ignored by simping white knights who believe woman are not toxic when theyve never seen women like that but you live with one and youll see how good they are at being the victim and exaggerating things as their PoV theyre the victim and never did wrong. Always listen to BOTH sides. Glad people here arent judges because yall would give people death sentences for stopping a punch or a kick from a women.
While I agree with everything you said here, I was under the impression Coder has went physical before. You could say it was only after she did so it was in self defense by then, but you probably still shouldn't do that to someone you're supposed to be caring about.
But yeah, Coder being painted as the sole villain is ridiculous.
I know I'm 4 months late but thanks this was very informative as I couldn't find the other side of the story in detail. I only came to find out about this because I had Coder listed as an Inspiration to me as a Content Creator and someone told me I should probably remove it. So I thank you for taking the time to explain the other side so others can make their own proper informed decisions for themselves.
I think now it is safe to say that Coder will win a YCS
Gonna win 5 to spite the YGO community
ygo champ requirement = gf/wife beater
So bad, but yet so funny
So let me get this straight.
Laura admits to being toxic and physical, there's a VOD of her blaming herself for everything. Coder makes a statement saying he admits to being toxic and physical and regrets everything. They're no longer together.
So whats the issue here? This is two people that shouldn't be together realizing they shouldn't be together.
You can't blame Laura for feeling awful enough to want to hurt herself. You can't blame Coder for wanting to make sure she's fine in that situation - anyone would do the same for anyone else, especially someone they knew or once knew.
They're both people that have made big mistakes and they're both working out how to get through it. The only issue I see here is that they're both getting flak from a certain someone making this public, and the only true "wrong" committed here that hasn't been sorted out in private is the fact that this even went public, especially so far after the fact.
There was no good reason to make this public. No one that cares for either of their wellbeings would spread this. But it's now been spread, and now we have to deal with that. You can't un-reveal information.
To give stevie credit, he wasn’t the one that revealed all this.
I agree there’s no reason to the public at all it’s just him trying to spread a little bit of misinformation so that his friend doesn’t get him the same troubles coder also pushing coder down further down in the situation is pissing me off because even though coder is also responsible, it doesn’t matter that he’s trying to claim. Laura didn’t do much at all while coder did a lot of it and saying that he should be banned and that his friendship it just shows he’s trying to put bias into this to spread this information to make it to where coder seems like the full of bad guy
@@YuyaSakaki385coder is not all bad , he’s my top 5 people I like watching and this changes nothing for me
@@isaiahjack3140 Sorry if I missed it, I said I just meant like the way he makes it sound coder Is a very bad guy, but I also know that coder is also one of my favorite people to watch That’s why I still trust coder
@@YuyaSakaki385 I also trust him .
Coder has shown several times he has anger issues. Not really only in his relationship with Laura but he's thrown strays at people that were not even trying to be hurtful towards him.
I might be misremebering the situation context wise, but during a stream during the dkayed situation that got him banned to begin with I remember farfa being in chat and saying something mundane, to which Kevin responded to with: "You're just gonna fucking react to this on your channel after it's all done." or something along those lines, yelling and implying farfa was not there to be helpful or friendly towards him.
His character (the raging at ygo, etc) sure has seen some exaggeration on stream, but the guy clearly has issues with controlling his aggression, specially with people he seems to be close with. During his subathon I clearly remember that he also was arguing with Laura at some point on screen, mics on. It wasn't an argument that escalated to the degree shown in screenshots or the ones described by both parties, but if that's how he has behaved on camera, fuck, man... I cannot begin to imagine how he was in fucking private. He needs help and he needs to be away for a while before he says or does something tha the regrets more than just tarnishing his online career.
I remember that
To be fair Farfa seems like the shit ass friend who likes to poke buttons when people are mad. If I was banned from something I love more than anything I’d probably be pretty irrational too, look at Tatsym.
@@dpacula63 That wasn't even what happened that time, he wasn't even banned at the time, the situation didn't merit implying farfa was just there to content farm. None of this is justified lmao
He's clearly not mentally stable enough to do streaming as a job. He should probably quit.
@rienobuko4324 DistantCoder has beefed with like 4 different Yu-Gi-Oh! Content creators, one of them being Ruggles. Who tf beefs with Ruggles? 🤣
Coder is just a toxic individual.
lofton only relevancy too yugioh is always drama, and serious situations he shouldnt be involving himself in. honestly this shouldnt even be a video, everyones misery is only used for content and drama engagement. no one learns anything. should have summarized it and called out Lofton instead.
Like dude won a YCS, he could be making bank with regular Yu-Gi-Oh content, but instead chooses to be an asshole.
Lofton is a damn loser.
It's always the content creators I watch..
Seems like a you problem, coder has always come off as an unhinged ass hole to me
You like them toxic, it seems
@@ollievirus6695 uh. Did I say that? I never knew this about coder. I only watched him every now and then and never got that impression.
@@Lightstation_ I know the feeling.
@@Lightstation_ chill, it's not your fault
"If a person I don't like does terrible things we should cancel him to death. But if my friend does it, it's a tragedy and probably there is a reason for that to happen, everyone should focus in their own bussinesses"
That's such a bs mentality that I have seen in the ygo community. Hipocrisy at its finest
Literally
It's really hard. I have a ex-friend who I thought the world of, in the end it turned out that she was terrible towards her husband and child and when i learnt i didn't believe it. I knew her for years and never would have thought she would do such things. I'm still not past it even after cutting ties with her.
While I'm a big fan of the likes of MBT and Farfa whonI believe are friends with Coder, Coder himself has always had a weird energy that felt completely off putting.
Fuck man... Your instincts never fail you
Yeah, he always seems a little opinionated
@@jasonlu4514 And liberal. Libs always act like this.
@@Tony-hn8qy MBT is liberal. Does he act like this?
@@SunnyHF-nf4bcdid you not see his “ban republicans from yugioh” tweet?
Fuck Coder but you also need to reflect on your characterization of the "psych ward" incident. Going off the information YOU provided, Laura said she was going to kill herself, while drunk, and Coder called the police. Did Coder know 100% she wasn't going to do this? Did her friends she was with contact Coder to even say "fuck off she's fine she's with us" or something? If not, then why shouldnt he call the police? Just because someone hasn't threatened self harm in the past doesn't mean you shouldn't take as threat of it seriously.
Imagine if she did do what she threatened to do. Then the story would have been "She told Coder what she was going to do and he didn't even care enough to report it and try to stop it".
This. I'm not going to defend coder's actions (as it's undoubtedly messed up), but I've been in a relationship similar to this (not as extreme, but yes, I was emotionally abusive), and I believe him when he says that there was abuse on both sides.
Unrelated to my relationship, I've been admitted to a psych ward "against my will" for the same reason that Laura was. That video she took was at the hospital, before going to the psych ward. As Stevie said himself, she had no cell access there, which is true, they basically hold certain belongings from you (like cell phones) while you're there. I can imagine if I were in her scenario and wanted to paint a bad picture of what had happened, it would have been very easy to do so. In regards to the audio of the elderly person at the hospital... I mean I've been to the hospital before and heard people in severe pain, that doesn't mean they're being neglected. When you're taken to the hospital for the reason that she was, you stay there at MOST overnight, then you're taken to the psych ward, where they generally care for you pretty well. I do not believe the claim that they were drawing blood from her every hour. In a psych ward you have your blood drawn once a day, and the patients are basically called in small groups to have their blood tested (likely one group per hour, based on her claims). It's easy to paint this as some horrific thing, but it's done for the patients' safety (as many of them have drug problems). So... idk, just wanted to share my personal experience for perspective. Hopefully Stevie sees this reply (or anyone for that matter)
@@BigBahss so you have been to the psych ward in the same place she went to? because I saw several people saying they treat you terribly there. and you are the only person I saw saying they treat you well.
Exactly. Coder made a response how that part of the story happen and what had happened was she threatened him saying she had found some guy who said he loved her and how he was a better man than Coder would ever be insuniating she would cheat to rile Coder up and then she threaten to jump into the street when Coder got mad. She didn't answer a single call and he couldn't reach her. Also she wasn't with friends. She was on her own hanging out with people at that bar and had constantly hung out with "guy" friends at bars by herself where if Coder had done that he'd been seen as a womanizer. No man is going to be okay with their women getting drunk with men who have actively tried to get with their girlfriend. Anyways she also made a social media post saying Bye and a picture of the street insuinating she was serious on her threat which made Coder freak out BUT his father called the police on his own against Coders wishes as Coder wasn't sure what to do. Also police protocol puts you in a ward when you threaten sucidie and she must have visibly shown signs of being unstable if they treated her that rough with treatments. They wouldn't have treated her if she was chill and admitted it was all a ruse to make her boyfriend scared and they'd chalked it up to some dumb GF but she clearly must have been belligerent for them to take caution. People act like Coder told the cops to throw her in there when she brought that on herself on threaten something you SHOULD NEVER do to anyone. That is signs of an unstable person to threaten sucidie to the point you make goodbye posts.
Yeah, I saw that, and it was more like helping more than causing trouble (if only they had good Healthcare) If someone did that to me when I needed to, I would be thankful that happened. Sometimes, professional help could make you get perspectives that you didn't have, even if in this case, it was literally ending your relationship
I wish Healthcare conditions gets better for everyone lol
Coder is a POS but you're not wrong. We should always take these kind of threats towards their own well-being as serious.
Lofton always finds a way to sound petty AF.
I'm very surprised about all of this and now so many little things I noticed are so much clearer. I remember when Coder and Laura were testing how he'll stream at locals and she looked like COMPLETE shit, it was a near 180 compared to other times she appeared on stream.
6:44 Being an autistic person myself, something about this part caught my eye. His long pause didn't feel like a "trying to find an excuse", rather it seems like he was realizing that he never fully grasped how bad his past actions were. This doesn't change how I feel about said actions, I um... honestly IDK how to describe it, I just simply found it interesting.
No matter the case Lofton is always the biggest asshole.
Odd, maybe if Coder wasnt a hypocrite attacking Chris and sending his fans after him its almost like the private information wouldn't have been released? Coders a hypcorite and thats all lofton wanted to show. The amount of death threats and harrassment Chris gets when Coder did the exact same thing should not be ignored. Defending coder in this situation just proves you dont care about the actual situation at all and are just defending your streamer.
While I share your standpoint on this matter stevie, you're way to bias against coder in the reporting/ summary. I expect some bias since Laura is your friend AND Kevin/ Coder looks like the way bigger partner at fault here... to say that every move of him is wrong, especially the psychiatric ward: She hung up on him after threatened him with suicide while in a intoxicated state of mind and in a way to toxic relationship... so is the big threat of her going to ooof her self? Yes... he actually did the right thing by alerting the professionals/ emergency service to check up on her. Did he know that she's going to be in a shit psychward? No. Was he responsible for the state of the psychiatric ward to any capacity? Also no. So to say that he's close to solely responsible for this part is flat out wrong and shows way to much bias against him. Again I'm still agreeing with the statement that he is a narcissistic, anger filled controll freak that need to better him self but both of them are at fault in this toxic relationship. Instead of saying that Coder needs to leave this space for good you only should need to say that he needs to better him self as a person under any circumstances. So yeah in summary: both of them were toxic lovers and we all just hope that they better them self. Learn the mistakes and move on. Oh yeah and fuck lofton.
THANK YOU! I have a bad habit of doom scrolling comment sections for no reason, and I'm shocked how many people have failed to notice many instances of Stevie being biased against Coder, and just want Coder removed from the community no questions asked. Again, Coder did fuck up, but it sounds like Laura was just as bad. I've had exe's that would think of oofing themselves a lot, and it really pushed my mental health. So I say in the circumstances, Coder made the best call that he made this entire relationship. I myself self reflect regularly and am still learning many things about myself. So for what it sounds, Laura and Coder are gonna need a lot of self reflection and therapist to help them try to be better people. And all this was dealt with in private, but Lofton just wanted the last laugh, so he just wanted to be petty and just created the shitshow, which even gave enough public knowledge of the situation for a video to even be made. So I agree, fuck lofton.
I agree with both of you, I was too searching for these rare kind of unbiased comments
Yeah idk. People are acting like the best option would've been for Coder to do nothing. So now what? She potentially actually offs herself and now these same people are going to call him a heartless monster who ignored her cries for help in her final hour.
God I hate stevie blunder
This shouldn't even be a video, all Stevie does is stir the pot for his gain
Both Laura and Kevin were terrible to each other. However, Coder is a hypocrite for being outspoken against certain yugioh players but has his own skeletons in his closet related to abuse that he was a part of. Sexual, emotional, psychological, and physical abuse - the implications of any type of abuse can be dire consequences for victims because of the trauma that is attached it and there is a large spectrum on how someone experiences/deals with traumatic events. Moreover, the whole pillow thing in itself is so pathological in nature because of its implications., even if it was for 1 second or there was immediate regret. The fact that Coder prevented Laura from receiving coaching from Pak is telling of how pervasive his mental health was at the time.
However, Laura appears to have also been extremely abusive too, as she admits to being "toxic" and there were talks amongst both being physcial, throwing the phone and hurting Kevin, slapping, and punching in the throat. This should be well prefaced because of the stigma related to violence of women towards men in relationships. Both were in a co-dependent, trauma-bonding-like cyclical relationship. Based on both streams, both were abusive, insecure, controlling, manipulative, coercive, selfish, and appear to be liars (e.g., minimizing their part or conveniently leaving out information[not that they owe us any information]) based on both of their sides explaining their side of the story. I hope they both can get help because they need it.
This might be distasteful to say, and probably not of the best time, but that sounds like somthing that can be called "match made in hell" of relationship. 😅
Holy shit slow it with the therapyspeak
huh?@@ieatwater6550
in the grand scheme of the situation, Laura seemed to be a huge gaslighter and put alot of stress on Coder, obviously that doesn't make his behavior warranted. But when someone is under that amount of stress constantly, his reaction is honestly EXTREMELY tame. My mom is the same way to my dad and she was the same way to her other 4 ex husbands. She would constantly berrate them and belittle them, going for personal attacks. Then one day they would snap and beat the shit out of her. Obviously, beating the shit out of her is not the right thing. But none of them never went to jail as they all proved that she was manipulating them and gaslighting them into a fit of rage.
@ieatwater6550 you are correct, we should definitely only side with one party that we enjoy the most. As a feminist I'll go with Laura so I can see the bad white man as the abuser and completely remove any nuance from the conversation only to serve my own catharsis.
Stevie Blunder sure did a blunder on this stand. 1st: They should not have air this stupid relationship out in the open. 2nd: They both are in the wrong for physically and mentally abuse each other. 3rd: Suicide threats should not be taken lightly, since feeling changes over time INTERNALLY and rarely surface, both of them DID admit of saying ""off themselves" to each other. 4th: Both of them need to walk away from the Internet and work on themselves instead of trying to find acknowledgement from strangers if they are right or wrong.
How is them airing out their relationship in any way Steve's fault?
OMG FINALLY someone who understands and not just attacks the male in the relationship bc "we always go after the male unless he is completely innocent and all abuse was done by the female". You are so right both of them are at fault. Also stevie says f*ck coder and support laura... wtf... support both of them... they uqually at fault and equally need it...
Can't get past the biased verbage used while retelling events. Hopefully someone further from the drama will cover it
Yeah, cause it makes me frustrated that he’s not giving all the information and just being biased in the video especially because people are explaining the actual situation making the video obviously being biased when you read the comments and watch it
Montreal hospital be like
Firstly, I feel like it needs to be said that I believe many of the allegations against Coder and the fact that he was physical with a partner is unacceptable.
That being said, the way that blunder here qualifies Laura’s physical violence with Coder is such a bad look. (To be clear not times where she is defending herself obvi) but if there is not reason to be the aggressor and physically violent with someone than even if Coder is hiding text messages and cheating it does not mean you can be violent. I’m sorry.
TL;DR two people who shouldn’t have started sleeping with each other and moving in together, one may have been worse than the other
distant coder is a human being ohh nooo! and in other news the world keeps on going.
as a person who was on both ends of abusive relationships i must say that both abuser and abused are so fucked up during and after such relationships that they both need serious therapy. I hope both Laura and Kevin will go to some therapy and will be able to heal from this traumatic experience.
That’s the thing though. Laura wanted to work through and go to therapy. Coder failed to keep his promise to stick with therapy. Coder even admits to trying three different therapists, and he blamed the therapists for them not working. Which is totally narcissistic.
@@davidmesa7008 i mean, finding a good therapist is a hard task, and it seems he sadly is not ready yet for that
@@davidmesa7008Not necessarily narcissistic, it's just how people think therapy works, just like in depression, therapist will never hand over you a magic solution, unlike with medicine, it's not an external factor you can "eliminate" from your body, therapist won't tell you the solution, just point the problem and give you an array of tool you can use to find a solution to it, but people dont want that, they want the solution to be given to them, and because therapists will never give it to you, you feel like they're scamming you, because when you don't see any progress being done without you proactively working on it, it's easy to dismiss therapy as useless no matter how many people you see, the funny thing is, more often than not, when you manage to get out of the hole, it's by your own, because that's what therapy is supposed to do, but you feel like you did all the work and the therapy was a waste of time.
@@davidmesa7008 You do not work through this stuff. Especially since you cant trust either party with the other. Therapists especially in the US and Canada are also not exactly high quality.
Anyone who’s watched his DB judging videos could see that he had major rage issues. Not surprised unfortunately
I will add that it’s completely reasonable for a guy to not want his gf thirst trapping on the internet or hanging out with guys who she knows want to f her. Weird that people are fixating on that considering the much worse things being thrown around
She threatened to off herself and he’s a bad guy for having her committed? Are you people insane?
tbf have you seen the kinda people that call for judges? any normal person would get mad lol
@@Slybandito7 yeah but he gave off Reddit mod energy
@@MegaMetal96Context is pretty important, while it isn’t a bad idea to have your partner sent to get help if they’re unwell, if you both have a history of violence, jealousy, manipulation, and pettiness, it completely changes the context from what is most likely an act of love and fear to an act of control. Felt pretty cut and dry, you can’t just take that point as it is alone
9:50 I dont condemn you for being biased but that framing is disingenuous: calling the police because someone made a suicide threat and you cannot reach them is trying to get them admitted in a psych ward, it's the most reasonable way to handle that situation. Trying to frame this as a controlling move seems extremely unfair.
The framing would be disingenuous if there were not a shit ton of additional context
She was literally with her friends, they could’ve handled her. Plus like Stevie said, she only said that because Coder was being an angry controlling abusive asshole. Instead of stopping and reflecting on how he was treating her to make her say that, he did the most psychotic thing possible.
@Cerdoconpatas the context adds to show Coder's character, but nonetheless there was not a better way to handling this issue if Laura wasn't responding to calls and was no way of calling her friends who were with her. It is an awful situation, but it stems from a relationship that in the first place should no have lasted that long.
@davidmesa7008 mate, if someone loses a ygo game and says "im gonna kill myself" it means nothing. If someone is having a very heated and emotional argument with their SO and says it, then that has weight. It is exactly because of Coders attitude that that reaction was warranted.
@@f.ah.c2114apparently not enough weight to stop and reflect on yourself to try and be a better partner.
Weird that they stayed together for so long. Hope they learn and live better lives.
It's not easy leaving an abusive relationship
Oftentimes, even if a relationship goes a bit sour, theres still a great Deal of love and affection for each other left, which makes leaving a relationship really difficult. Especially since you know they were better and more loving once.
And jumping on another comment Made before me, IT IS very difficult leaving an abusive relationship, especially if you're very co-dependent.
For everyone chiming in y'all weren't in that relationship, and y'all don't know how toxic a relationship can be at times. Both parties mistake was not walking away from each other a lot sooner. And they're so called friends not keeping a buck to both of them.
Everyone gonna choose a side, but what I hate is people using other's personal business for clicks and views. We don't need TMZ in this community.
Everyone wishing ill on another, you really need to work on your soul.
im wishing ill on Lofton tho. guy started shit for clout and i hope he gets so removed from the YGO community that we all forget about him entirely
This
We as a community should be completely distancing from Coder and Lofton like we did Leblanc.
#DistanceFromCoder
if you read my comment it will tell you a story of my own run-in with them in Dueling Book i even gave them a second chance and gave them a sub on UA-cam even though they wronged me but i just unsubbed a few moments ago as in the TCG community there are some sick idiots out there and that's the sad truth and i am even a believer of all women take some form of self-defense class just in case god forbid the worse happens and they need a way to defend themself and escape
@@salbaca1104 he/him
Unintelligible word salad @@salbaca1104
The dkayed and DLE drama just was the begining of his meltdown
Coder got drama with everyone, but the craziest one before this revelation was threatening to copy strike Db grinder.
@@bertomo9on what basis?
Remember the DLE stuff last year?
Exactly...
What happened? Who's DLE? Duel Links Entertainment? Isn't that channel consists of multiple people?
I was never a big fan of coder because I saw him as a content creator who gets needlessly loud and can be irritating (to me) as a result. I did respect his admittedly nice niche of being a rulings centric yugituber. Never thought he was like THIS though. What in the actual hell man 😮
your whole video is biased lmao. especially the part about the hospital. in canada police cannot take someone away to a mental health unit unless the police get an admission from that person that they are a threat to themselves or see direct that they intend to injure themselves immediately. if she was taken to a mental health unit its because she admitted herself your significant other cannot admit you to a mental health unit. the amount of facts that were admitted by both parties you got wrong shows your intention is to support your friend and discredit your competition. saying "im gonna go drive off a bridge" when theres no bridge to drive off is a lot different than saying "im gonna jump in front of a truck" and then sending a picture saying "bye" with you standing next to a major intersection. would you rather have a phone thrown at you or a pillow? youre right it is like comparing a bucket of water to an ocean of abuse.
He probably doesn’t want to ruin his chances with Laura
holy shit what a horrible thing to say
Coder has always been a hot head this isn’t surprising 🤦🏻 just watch when he plays and starts losing or makes shitty plays, he gets an attitude. If he’s gonna get heated over a card game obviously he’s gonna get heated in something more serious
I haven't been in the ygo scene for like a year so I'm just finding out about this given Coder's "return". I've seen Coder's weirdness with Laura on stream in the past and all of it just makes sense now. I don't think this should have ever been public, Lofton is fked for that but at the same time I think people who follow Coder should know what he did. It's just a terrible situation.
Is nobody ignoring this guy portrays coder in the worst light possible, is lying about not being a drama youtuber, gives 0 chatity to him, says that coder being concerted about his girlfriend suicide baiting is abuse and is biased towards his friend?
Both of the people in this situaiton seem awful, but what world needs less of is "concerned friends" making biased accusations in order to "protect their friend".
This guy is Nickisnotgreen of the Yugioh community.
So heres the thing, i havent liked coder since the d-kayed drama. It was pretty clear by his uncalled for and unprompted aggressive behavior towards d-kayed he couldnt control his emotions. MBT (love him, but defending indefensible behavior isnt being a good friend, its enabling poor behavior) defended coder with the line "you know what i love about coder, hes so honest, hes always 100%" for anyone else out there reading this, if you cant control yourself or your emotions and start insulting people over relatively minor things like the very understandable mistake of what is or is not legal in online yigioh, you are not honest, youre a child. YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOURSELF.
it's crazy how nobody seems to talk about this on twitter, i just saw this video, else i wouldn't have know about it
Thank you for actually covering this. I'm ashamed at all of Coders friends in the YGO community who want to remain silent even after Laura and Coder have said their peace. Thank you for always being the person who speaks out against these things and I hope Laura heals from this.
Coder being a XQC fan is really the nail in the coffin for me.
real
Nah xqc is cool. He doesn't abuse his partners
Btw making it very much clear, the framing of this and the majority of the this frames coder as the sole abuser. This is not true and it's very easy to be swayed into thinking that.
They were very much just as bad for each other as each other. Very toxic all around and both need to split and stay very far away from each other
Damn this situation just sucks :/ i feel really sorry for Laura and i hope shes happier now...
also kinda sad that coder will be shunned from the community since i found his videos enjoyable, but that isnt even close to justify his behaviour
coder wont be shunned lol all the biggest yugitubers are his personal friends
If this is all true then I hope his yugituber friends have some actual integrity and shun him like the community did with LeBlanc (?) But genuinely dont know if that is gonna happen.
Hi, Nurse here.
I work in psychiatry in Sweden, and do take care of people who are there against their will (under LPT, the Law of Forced Psychiatric Care). It gets rough sometimes.
Being forcibly admitted is a traumatic event for anyone, and I hope that your friend hasn't lost faith in our profession because of it. Can't speak for anyone else, but I take great care to try to help my patients through what is perhaps the worst time in their lives, and ensure they never feel abused or abandoned.
bro i just wanted to check on a funny card game youtuber, now the channel activity explains itself
Not surprised he always seemed off
I never read Coder and Laura messages. Its heartbreaking, and scary to read them
I've never been a fan of DistantCoder's personality (at least from the very few videos I've watched), so this doesn't really surprise me if true.
I understand the need to review this but .., they both want it to go away . Why not respect both parties wishes
giving lofton personal information about your love situation is just hella stupid ngl
Bro is out here trying to end another career. This could have stayed private
It was, but it was leaked by someone else. From what I hear, this all happened at least 6 months ago
Damn I sat beside coder during his first regional back in Niagara, he seemed pretty chill and we even shared a few jokes. That’s so crazy
man this takes the D-kayed and Coder situation to a new level.
How's that ?
Coder being abusive towards his gf doesn't have shit to do with Dkayed wtf are you talking about
I can't fathom how anyone would willingly give Lofton any personal information to begin with.
How is this any better than Lofton? Both parties have said their piece and ur just rehashing what has already been said for clicks n views. Your bit on the hospital shows a complete lack of awareness of how that works which makes sense if u never leave ur house
Both parties have said their pieces on livestreams, not easily accessible youtube videos
Because Stevie isn't holding the info hostage behind a discord...?
I'm not surprised. The way Coder has been grand standing so aggressively on issues I thought there had to be an underlying reason.
Months late to the party but thats why you dont say anything inferring you are suidical unless you are 100% sure. Law officers and hospitals dont play with that, everything that happen to her while admitted is common practice. Coder didnt do anything wrong in that aspect because, 1. He cant make the ultimatum that she even goes, her own words are what decided that unless you are completely out of it. Being drunk absolutely didnt help. 2. You have no idea how someone is going to react when they threaten to selfharm so a panicked response isnt so absurd. Probably not the first time shes threatened it before. That phone call doesnt happen that quick with someone you've known for a long time.
Those 2 sounded awful for each other and this deadass shouldve stayed private
NOWAY Stevie not getting into drama
Ah yes, Coder...
the 9-13 minute mark of this video is actually hilarious to me. you thought this was gonna be a good idea ?
I only watched the very beginning but it seems to me like he's biased towards coder bein the bad guy, he said while "coder was screaming in her face" several times while trying to minimize any time the chick hit him by providing a context that "she was just frustrated?" All the while tge screenshot he kept on screen has nothing to do with what he is describing and it's about 2 other people talking about coder. News flash when people have a break up especially if it's a nasty one people have a tendency to shit talk their Ex to drum up sympathy points for themselves
I might get a lot of hate for saying this but, I (am / used to be) a distant coder fan! I don’t know how I feel about this news. I’m having a hard time processing the news. It’s just like the “SkyDoesMinecraft” situation all over again… I am just shocked that he would do such a thing?! Coder was my hero, he made me laugh with his bishbaalkin videos, I know I’m going to miss him if he leaves the platform but like you said it’s probably for the best.
This is way way worse than i thought.
When i first saw this i guessed Lofton just wanted to be toxic again
So what’s crazy is one I want someone neutral to tell the story between the 2 cause this video is only showing coder to be the bad guy which he is but I don’t wanna hear the woman had issues too but u don’t go into deep detail like u do for coder if they both abused each other why is it that the girl get a list of things but coder got the rest of the video it seem like ur completely only going after him to help the girl stay in good grace
The reason that’s it’s not neutral is that he’s friends with Lauren. Any admission of her doing wrong would likely make her turn on him. The only way to get all the information is to go through all the screenshots and VODs yourself.
It seems though that many are trying to compare the actions to either justify what Laura did, or ignore it outright by saying what coder did was worse.
At the end of the day, what is clear, is that they were both toxic and abusive individuals who should never have been together.
The only reason this stuff was leaked in the first place was because Coder kept harrassing Chris and Lofton just wanna to prove hes a hypcorite which personally I have nothing wrong with. Attacking someone for something when you privaetly do the same thing is so fucking weird.
the hospital in that situation should've been sued over the inhumane quality of care administered
Another YugiTuber ruined
Another?
I typed MBT into the search bar on youtube and this was the third video. I don't play yugioh and haven't watched any yugioh content in months, but was wondering if he was still posting.
Y’all need to stop acting like this is the abuse Olympics tallying up who was hurt the most to determine the winner. Both parties have admitted to being abusive physically and mentally, nobody wins in this kind of relationship and that’s a fact.
didn't see that coming
I disliked Coder before this drama just because I thought he was annoying. But seeing how many people are against just him and not Laura when both parties are at fault makes me feel kind of bad for him.
That's because he was way worse
@@andrejv.2834 Yeah maybe, I'm not defending him nor do I want to but Laura getting a pass for physical abuse just because everyone is against Coder is kind of crazy.
@@somethingasd6377 I don't think she's getting much of a pass, just not as much criticism as coder, which is fair here imo
Also this video doesn't show all the details, laura herself made a near 3 hour vod where she discusses the things she did that hurt coder, and the things he did to hurt her, just putting it out there, if you care about this whole thing enough and have the patience to watch it all
Also another reason why she maybe doesn't get criticised as much as some think she should is because she already blames herself, maybe even too much, in said vod, for a lot of things that went wrong
@@andrejv.2834you’d be surprised, speaking Ill of Laura for her actions will get you seen as a coder meatrider, or whatever other term they fancy saying.
There’s also others who chime in saying ‘but coder was worse’ when they talk about Laura’s actions.
Ultimately how much they did doesn’t really matter in the context of saying that Laura is an abuser.
There is no threshold that needs to be met to be labelled an abuser, yet people have been acting as if there is.
It’s like if you were to compare 2 killers, one killed 5, the other 10. Yes on killer killed more people, sure, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have issue with the other. It doesn’t mean that we should treat what they did as fine or negligible just because someone else did ‘more’.
Coder has rightfully stepped away and sought help.
Lauren, aside from the VOD, has generally been acting as if she was just a victim and had done no wrong. As far as I’m aware at least, she hasn’t sought help for her behaviour.
Yes what Laura went through was horrible.
In the same way, what coder went through was also horrible.
People don’t seem to understand that it was just a toxic relationship between two people that should have never been together. They’re both terrible people.
@@jamesmacey1673 regarding the "coder meatriders", while yes they are bad comments, I've only seen them on posts that just defend coder, not ones that talk about both, although tbf I'm not really engaging with this outside of the vod so I could've missed some
Also wasn't laura already getting help? I think i saw that somewhere but I could be misremembering
And not trying to defend her, but I from what we heard I think the only action she did bad on her own without being provoked by coder (not saying that slapping, closing a door on his hand or throwing his phone were warranted) was yelling, as she says she used to yell a lot at him too early on, but stopped when both of them found out coder had anxiety, and being yelled at probably didn't help with not only that but also his insecurities
Although this is something both need a lot of help for, even for people who don't have anxiety or insecurities, a lot of yelling won't lead to a nice relationship
Thanks for the explaination.... I was confused why there was so less Videos of coder...
But Yeah...
Is coder still alive? When He says that He wants to Crash his car... And wants to Die without her?
Have no social Media... Is also a serious meant question...
Yeah they were both toxic, but the way Coder would control her, get mad at the way she dressed, posted in IG, Streamed, told her people only watch her because she was attractive, etc. it’s all textbook misogyny.
tbh its looks more like insecurity rather than misogyny.
@@Kylada-o5twhy do you think manosphere weirdos are the way they are?
@@Kylada-o5tinsecurity and misogyny work hand in hand. A lot of the people who are Uber incels or people who listen to Andrew Tate are insecure (not saying Kevin is an incel, just using that as an example). Saying a woman is success entirely because she is attractive is a misogynistic mindset. Also, being controlling of a woman's outfits and saying that she's "wearing it to get the attention of men" is also misogynistic. Both are meant to show that either a) women only have an audience because of men being attracted to their looks and b) women only dress for the attention of men.
@@queenautumnween27961000%
Lmfao what a weak take
Ah yes, let's downplay your friend's physical violence over texts messages. Seems about right
FINALLY SOMEONE, absolutely agreed
Wow blasting one person but not the other when both of them were awful 2 each other hypocrites all over
Dark humor or not, it’s probably not a good idea to joke about black people not bruising easily. Yikes.
Finally, some fucking drama.
You're one hell of a storyteller,
Good god man, can we just have youtube/twitch make everyone sign a contract that says they can't fuck or date at this point?
Both need some help, but Coder needs way more AND needs to be held accountable and own up to what he's done. He clearly has issues that need addressing, but that does NOT excuse the behavior
When both of them admits to being both abusive, you know the codependency is gonna be toxic af.
No waaay I'm sooo shocked lmao
You are being too subjective. I'm not a fan of coder but your judgement on him through the police situation sounds extremely biased. Laura threatened to harm herself, coder calling the police is not an unreasonable response to ensure her safety.
Dam, has coder said anything about this
So happy for Stevie being one of the first YGO react andies that got to cover this drama.
Rookie mistake for not including any sponsors or ads in the video but it is what it is.
Wow, it's always the people you most expect.
Yes coder downfall yeeeeess
You've got problems lil bro. Not defending him by any means but feeding off this shit like it's some entertaining Saturday morning TV series is fucking sick. Get help.
this is so depressing. It's very difficult for me to recommend games like yugioh to women in my life knowing how common guys like this are within the community.
Laura was just as bad, so this isn’t a ‘men are shit’ situation.
@@jamesmacey1673 I don't even care about this being a men are shit situation. This kind of behaviour is endemic of figureheads in largely male-centred communities.
Where individuals are acknowledged and given platforms for their skill or social influence within such a group , there is always gonna be those who abuse it.
Looking at esports, card games, art communities etc; it's usually guys who exhibit controlling behaviour, where most of their friends are members of the community who hold them in high esteem.
@@jamesmacey1673 I dont really care to explain this further, as I can see there are many crawling up Kevin's ass right now and congratulating him for stating that he might seek a therapist.
This community has such an ugly side man
@@melleen629 he didn’t ‘abuse’ the position he had, he was just a shit person in a shit relationship with somebody just as shit.
Anyone who tries to minimise Laura’s part in all this clearly doesn’t care about the actual issue, abuse, and is just using it as a means to spew their sexism.
@@jamesmacey1673 bro, I didnt even mention her. you are not being honest about what is upsetting you here.
So you're saying both of them are abusive 🤔
He won’t explicitly say Laura was abusive, because that would ruin his chances with her
Why didn't she go to the cops first
Because they settled it behind closed doors. That was until someone else revealed this information to distract from his abusive friend
@@jamesmacey1673 I'm sorry if I'm in a relationship and someone's hitting me. Go to the f****** cops. To try to get a restraining order against them I'm sorry I don't care about the excuses go to the f****** cops. The first time your boyfriend or girlfriend hits you your first instinct should go to the police. Not we can work through this
Did Coder's isolation of Lara extend to family or just male friends?
If you look in the comments on his most recent video hes clearly botting positive comments and deleting negative ones. Pretty uncanny
Not gonna take any sides or believe in anything anyone says without definitive proof.
Stevie? Farming drama? Noooooo never :)
Idk why we are making Coder the bad guy. Like- how is that the take away after watching this. I see y’all in the comments when- he’s not
They BOTH would argue and yell and from what I see- SHE was physically abusive FIRST and for awhile before he started also being abusive
So- ITS ON BOTH OF THEM
Also the photos…Coder is right. Coder is right about those SPECIFICALLY. She is showing off her ass. That’s- just true. That was her purpose for the photos. Now I’m not saying doing this is a bad thing- but it is what she was doing. Just the truth
And? Why do people make such a big deal about women just being comfortable showing themselves like that. Yeah, he's discussed that he was not comfortable with her doing that (or the potential of her opening an OF) and if that is the boundary that he is gonna latch onto that was broken, then he should've also broken up at that point; however, he tried and succeeded at controlling what she did, said and how she behaved around and with others.
People bashing on her for showing her ass or showing more skin is just retarded ass incel behavior.
While from the context of the video I tend to agree with most of this, they’re both awful people who abused each other to maybe not equal but comparable amounts, the part about the pictures is a bit stupid, early on in the video Stevie mentions that coder was LITERALLY HIDING TEXTS from Laura, while coder actively acted like an insecure man baby when it came to how she dressed consistently. Coder wasn’t just “pointing out what she was wearing” he has shown a history of berating her based off what she wears despite the fact that he himself was being shady af with another woman. That’s insanity he also clearly gets super insecure around other men based on what Laura has said, so with the context to say he’s right about the pics feels a bit dishonest
@@Ekatkid What I’m about to say might be completely wrong BUT I thought the time when he was being suspicious with another girl was during the period she was physically abusive and before he started also being physically abusive. Making that whole situation slightly understandable on his end……and then he messed that up but getting physically too
And saying he’s completely right about the clothes and picture she takes would be dishonest. Hes sometimes right. And other times he’s just being insane. But I feel like from what we see- he right most of the time. She is literally pushing her butt out towards the camera while wearing tight pants like…that’s on purpose. But her flexing for the camera in literally normal gym clothes showing a progress photo is just…normal
Again I think they are both doing in the wrong and for now I GUESS coders in the wrong more. I mean he for sure did way more but at the same time I’m sure Laura left out the bad stuff she did and she did stuff first so- we’ll see who’s more in wrong later. For now they both wrong
It always gets me when people say the abuse is both ways, when one is the clear instigator and the other is responding to the instigation, often after being the peverbal bear being poked until they stop putting up with it and retaliate at said instigator, who then pretends to be the victim. Or Gaslighting 101.
Oh my
I have no idea who anyone here is and know nothing about Yugi-Oh but I like drama so here I am
Lot of stevie said on the video are not true and only one side of the story. Just watch coder’s view before draw the conclusion
ok so judging by the comments there seems to be side to the story that wasn't told here, and unfortunately it seems Coder deleted the VOD where he tells his side, but Coder has always struck me as a potentionally unhinged person so I'm not surprised he did some of the shit that's claimed against him
Anyway I will comment on one thing I found odd in this video, Laura saying "I wish I wasn't good looking so I don't get attention" in response to Coder criticizing her instagram pics....I'm sorry what kind of response is that? she could've said "fine I'll delete all my photos" or "I'll stop posting pics of myself on my insta, is that what you want???" which would've made more sense, it doesn't matter if she'd do it, it's just a better response because obviously Coder's problem isn't that she's good looking, it's that she posts pics of herself there
Second thing is, I'm sorry but that ass picture celebrating "her defeating anorexia" is just bs, no one in their right mind would believe that that picture isn't purely to get attention....like come ON
She strikes me as an attention seeker....they both seem to be unlikeble people for different reasons