WFL M60 MillTurn Complete Crankshaft Machining - MARTECH Machinery, NJ - USA
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2012
- The WFL M60 demonstrates it's capabilities by machining a complete crankshaft in one operation. Contact www.martechcnc.com
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This is a modern miracle.
I can imagine the hours of work, put in by mechanical, metallurgists, electrical software, toolmakers, and all the logic that went behind the scenes not only the logic of the cutters but that tool changing and the coordination of the degreesof freedom involved. I like the manner in which the crankpins are made.
I must not forget the mathematicians who coordinated the steps to cut.
A modern miracle indeed that few can appreciate.
In the old days , the product was more beautiful than the tools used to make it but in modern times the tool is more beautiful than the product.
Excellent video. No added music. Just the pure sound of the cutters.
Glad you liked it!
Those cutting depths are phenomenal. I also like the optimisation of the fast travel; when the cut is finished the tool doesn't just go back to where it started but rather goes on in the same direction, which is much shorter, and starts to cut from there. Great video!
As a former CNC programmer : Respect. So many tools , so many parameters, , so many spindel speeds, feed rates, so many hours of programming and simulating.
Impossible to fathom...
Barthoization approximately how long would it take to program for this job ?
@@netdoctor1 nah
@@MrAli171 may have a stroke trying to do that by yourself.......................
is this manuel programming? not CAM?
Incredibly,beautiful work.knowing what I know about such things, I can only imagine the thousands of hours of machine design, cad hours, programming ,not to mention tool design and application,to make such magic appear for all to enjoy on youtube. My hats off to all who made it possible. I've always said " humans make space ships out of dirt"
Ты живой еще?
Incredible time savings, congratulations to the detailing and modeling staff !!!!
Watching this video is just a thing of beauty... Wish I could just afford to buy one of these cranks to hang on my wall in my living room.. Automotive Art! And what an awesome CNC Machine! :)
I would buy wfl 😸
No matter how you view this, its still magic and artwork rolled into one ! So very cool. Wish I had one, but would hate to have to program it.
What an awesome piece of machinery. The things you could make with that once you were trained properly, are only limited to imagination. It makes bridgeports, drill presses and lathes look like fisher-price toys.
Bravo, bravo! The amount of team work it takes to reach this mastery is divine!
Brilliant! I just love the different crank-throw counterweight, based on the overall balance when the engine is assembled. I was look out for this in particular but you did not disappoint! Of course, we know that crankshafts should be machined from a drop-forged blank but your video goes to show that it's also viable from a straight bar. Well done, sir.
+Gordon Burns That used to be the case but not any longer. As Shepherd Ginzburg correctly points out above: "No, we use billet cranks for strength. MichaelkinsfordGray is correct in entirety. When you build a top fuel racing engine that makes 8,000 horsepower, only a billet crankshaft will survive. Even then you are lucky to get 10 passes out of it before cracks appear."
I have no idea what I’m watching, but it’s freaking awesome and I can’t get enough.
Awsome piece of programming.
WOW, that depth of cut is huge! I almost couldn't believe it when I saw the first cutter go in, that's some serious hardware.
i thought the exact same thing when the first cut started, holy CRAP that was deep!
RustyDockLight Did you see the carbide get red hot. That was amazing.
Michael Schalk That was Not the carbide... if your carbide glows like that, it’s not there anymore... what you see glowing are the Chips
That was pretty wild. Multi-axis machining, live tooling, rigid tapping, etc. Cool stuff!
Thank you Martech for the upload. Impressive machine. :)
As a manual machinist, this blew me away, i watched the whole video from start to finish. WoW.
Can you imagine how many different set ups and tool changes this would be on manual machines , it would take a month
It’s like Michael Angelo looking at a stone marble and seeing David
This is a piece of raw metal and creating a masterpiece
if you start from a forged semi-finished product ..... much more guarantee and resistance for the same material.
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@@mauriziocosta3858 Могли бы из пластика нарезать и не портить кругляк )
This is incredible in so many ways. I have never seen machining like this before.
That is one fantastic machine and almost hard to believe it's capabilities. Excellent video, thank you very much!.
One hundred years ago, men did this with slide rules and their wits. It took a lot longer to complete. The same kind of men put this into a computer program and made life much easier for the machinist.
People who build machines like this are my hero's.
It's a thing o' beauty to watch it go through that process. The guy who set it up, who had to work out the different sections of the program, needs a good pat on the back too.
:)
Thanks for MillTurn's video
This took a lot of team effort by metallurgical, computer, and manufacturing engineers as far as I can see. Hopefully society will learn to have a higher respect for engineers after watching UA-cam videos like this. They help us to enjoy the good life. Nice cars etc. Every September the news media shows university students having this good time. They never talk about the engineering students who upon arriving at university have to almost immediately immerse themselves in heavy mathematics, physics, and working the computers from morning to late night almost everyday from September to April. They are under a lot of stress, and they have to achieve high grades. Only so many people out there can achieve a university engineering degree.
***** Yes, I can attest to what you say.
***** kudos to your dad !!
Yes. Given the depth and rigor of their education, engineers are rather poorly paid.
Mechanics and technicians will always curse automotive engineers because of the stupid things they have to replace in the impossible to reach places, as well as bad design flaws.....
Ageed. An Engineer is a certain breed of person for sure. Highly analytical but also with very keen visual and spatial abilities. Kind of the bridge between art and science but skilled in both !!
This CNC is amazing and the programmer is a genius!
Its software programmed... like damn... people really think that shits handmade?
A truly beautiful piece of mechanical art.
This CNC is awesome I work for a company that we make crankshafts I'm a grinder a finisher never see a cnc like this one, Love it.
since when i was kid seeing the tv shows about cars always question me how fabrique this part of the engine now i know it.
in some way this is inspirings me
Ahhh yes my favorite insert in the beginning CNMG
Have to say, never seen a 9 or 15 axis machine working like this. Pretty damn impressive!
Speedy and accurate machining. I like.
😳👍 Amazing to watch this great Millturn-Videos. Go Far 😊
Having been a manual machinist I'm amazed by many aspects of the CNC process. Like for instance how it knows which tools need cutting oil. How no matter how long the tool is it never chatters. How fast the tool spins. (doing it manually you would never turn the cutter head at like 4,000 rpms and certainly not without cutting oil.but this machine does it successfully) How its taps as fast as it does. How it speeds up right in the middle of a cut once it reaches a part that has continuous metal and knows it won't beat up the bit. How it takes off like .600" per cut while turning the lathe portion. and most, how it takes the perfect amount of material off per cut to get a smooth , shiny finish. I know from experience that when you get close to your desired size, you take small amounts off. And when doing so, the finish often times is not smooth and shiny. The machine (or programmer) knows how much to take off on its final pass to achieve a smooth, presentable finish. I realize it will all get polished anyway, but there is something satisfying about a sweet looking final cut. And of course there is the machine itself. It has like 50 tool heads. A door opens and an arm comes out, inserts a tool, then the arm goes back in and the door closes like something from The Jetsons. It lathes, it mills at any angle, it drills at any angle, it taps at any angle. Then the head turns 180 degrees and it spins the other way on a dime, and does the same things the other direction. Amazing. Maybe i'm making a bigger deal out of it than it really is....... But I don't think so. There are things made on a CNC machine that simply can't be made any other way. All while maintaining strict tolerances.
There is also the thing that CNC programming is not quite like just programming. You have to have a great deal of hands-on (technical) experience to accomplish something of this size.
***** well said.Elite programmers take shops to the next level.
Alan Burgueño Its not just something you go to school for
MrMarkpark Yeah, I agree this video is amazing, and I also wonder, for example, how is the cilindricity of the crankpin journal, since it's machined controlling the spin rotation and the miller head simultaneously.The bad quality finish when machining a last little portion is probably due to the depth of cut being equal or smaller than the tool "sharpness" radius, so as it does not properly cut the metal but actually extruded and ploughs some little bits of material. The choice of using or not oil usually comes from a lot of research regarding cutting a material A with a carbide B, within parameters of cutting speed, feed and depth of cut, then evaluating the life time with or without oil, etc.
bsbravati concentricity I think is what you were looking for.
what really amazes me is the person that needs to program that piece of machinery
+sam schrenker I think is not the programmer but the mechanical engineer that designed the machine
you may be correct
it would be impossible to do that in gcode, this is why we have CAM software
+sam schrenker I imagine the fine-tuning of this machine would've been an absolute nightmare.
+sam schrenker Programmers and Engineers are the bane of a machinist's world! We're the on the ground operative... but they don't want to hear a word of what we have to say. What does that plebe know? Don't get me started. And I did engineering work, AutoCAD, for 17 years. I prefer cutting metal in a shop.
Amazing CNC process. Thank you for sharing. I really liked the video as it showed complete process in building a crankshaft. Thanks.
Wow! This thing is removing massive amounts with each pass. Super impressive!
does anyone else think that is very satisfying and relaxing to watch
I'd rather watch that magic than hear a concerto. The lathe is much more exciting than th music and I adore music.
Man, this is hypnotic
I´m lost for words. Awesome! Great work :)
The power and precision man-built machines can achieve is just astounding.
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Wow this is best video in whole month. Really fascinating. Great vid ;)
Thanks Liutauras! Much Appreciated!
Fantastic work
one of the best videos!
Yes, the machine can be programmed and set-up to make anything. From a Porsche 930 Turbo crank to a landing gear for a 747. We are a dealer fpr the equipment. Unfortunately, we don't offer machining services.
Fuck, that was intense!
My son just started machine tool in trade school. I graduated from the same school 32 years ago as an automotive technician. A trade is the best education you can receive . With manufacturing returning to the US a trade is your best bet in today's market place.
Joseph Matarese
You've got that right. For years, people have been getting out of collage with the idea of being a suit. It's getting very hard to find people that can actually produce anything and there are way to many suits for the amount of jobs.
After fifty years of toolroom work, there was always an argument about who was the most important, the engineer, the cad cam programmer, the machinist. After all those years, I still love the sound of heavy chips raining down into a chip pan. Those tool holders are amazing to see. The person that programs parts like this, is earning his/her pay.
It was an absolute treat to see this process unfold! The level of skill necessary to create such a machine and then program the operation is quite astounding. What engine is the crank shaft for?
To me this is like something out of science fiction ! Remarkable !
How is amazing you see a machine making a good work, using excellence in software and trained employees 👏. Congratulations.
That’s a work of art both in planning and production.
That isn't a crankshaft that's a work of art!
6:26 rigid tapping 8 holes with no oil or coolant. brave!
one cutting edge on the tap breaks and a whole damn crankshaft is scrap
no coolant is just for the camera
This is amazing, but I find more amazing that people with just creativity and craftsmanship were able to do this 100 year ago and still have the same level of precision .
They weren't nearly as precise as CNC. They could still make good parts and knowing how to use manual machinery is important, but CNC is where it's at. One of my tenants has a CNC shop and not one of his guys can run a old Bridgeport. If the computer goes down no parts are made. Kinda sad really, they're programmers not machinists
By far the best MILLTURN machine on the market nothing even comes close
Thats some SERIOUS Chips flying..........
I cant believe how much material it takes off in one pass... Impressive as hell though!!!
me too. scary.
I make furniture from large slabs of wood, trees cut by chainsaw and millied on my property trees which I planted 20 yrs ago. There's a world of difference with the precision and high cost of the tooling in the video - yet some concepts are similar. I liked the video!.
+Ken Albertsen You making stuff from trees you yourself planted 20 years ago is WAY cooler than anything in this video!
great vid technology is moving pretty fast it will be amazing to see what we will be able to engineer in the next 10/15 years !
that is goooood leson
thank you
OMG! it is amazing, i love it.
Looks precise as hell
Pure Mechanical Symphony this..❤️
I been cnc machinist over 26 years I do all you can think but when I see
The work some people do you think you have long way to go it’s not a easy job you need to know a lot abut programming tooling and setup and how to run the job
It’s not like a flipping hamburger 🤔
1985 i started mylar tape an cassettes Yep an corporate think can you do more
its crazy that one bar of aluminum,or steel, or whatever it is can be shaped in to something so different. Amazing
Amazing.i never see this before!!
Wow amazing just awesome. The only thing that's better then the way this machine works is the thinking ability of a programmer. Very very outstanding
I've worked on a Mori Seiki MT253 5 axis. The machine was epic but the parts weren't. Now I'm on a 20 year old 3 axis mill. I'd go back to the Mori any given time.
I have intimate experience with both the Mori NT Series and the WFL. Although the Mori is not a bad machine, it is not in the same class as the WFL. The machine construction is completely different. One important point about the WFL, is that they build ONLY MillTurns. That has and continues to be their focus.
MARTECHcnc how much would the WFL m60 cost to purchase?
There's no info on their website. Thank you!
There's no info because you have to quote(?) them for the price, but several hundred thousand is good guess to start with.
Loukas Dimitriou Hello - If you would like to make an inquiry, please visit our website and use the machine inquiry form. The machines are typically configured and quoted after through review of your application. Thank you for your interest.
***** MARTECHcnc thank you both for your reply!
"I swear, Oscar, if I find one thing wrong with this next crankshaft we're melting you down into cans" -Manager
Damn I loved watching this. I'm a retired CNC Machinist. I actually miss setting up and running these things, just don't miss the hours of working 2nd shift till 1 am. LOL
Im also same as you and i miss that so much
Gracias por el video, que belleza es algo que me quedo súper emocionado. Felicidades.
I watch something like this and I realize just how much I don't know.
Welcome to manufacturing; there’s always more to learn!
It's amazing how a machine can take 1's and 0's, a billet and turn it into a usable part.
Chisa che fondi tutto e anche tu
@@gingersquatch9844 you don’t know nothing about it it’s works with CNC technology not just 1 and 0 like a pc
@@tommeis345 I mean until you get into CAD/CAM, then you use a computer to talk to the machine. As opposed to doing it yourself.
This is more awesome than the Robots in the Pacific Rim!
That was really awesome!
Great Video and great info I enjoyed watching keep up the good work!
Thank you for a great video! Is that the crankshaft for an engine? Looks to me like a triple or, more likely, a V6...With staggered crank pins on number 1 & 2??? More info would be appreciated!
This Crank is not for any specific engine. It is merely a Demo to showcase the machines capabilities. Cycle time for this part is about 2.5 hrs.
@@MARTECHcnc Ah ok, I was getting really confused as to what kind of engine this thing belonged in! 🤣
I'm just a hobbyist...this blew me away! You watch this and wonder how did they build a crankshaft in the 1920's!
my exact thought as I began watching it, seeing it transform, the rotation speed was ridiculous towards the end.
I have been in this type of manufacturing my entire working life (not going to say how long that is .. ) but I wonder the same thing! I went through the engine room of the Queen Mary (keel laid 1931) some years ago and looked at the giant gears and shafts and was in awe ..
Awesome video. Thank,you!
Need a crankshaft for a Merlin engine!!! :)
How many crankshafts did they destroy to program this right. Or do they use wood?
Impressive!
With today's modern software, complex components like this crank can be programmed and the program/tools 3D Modeled. Most of our users are working with very expensive alloys and/or castings. Trial & Error or scrapping out the first few "test" pieces, is simply not an option. No wood used.
This was probably programmed based on a model in solid works, module works or some similar cad program. All the tool paths were programmed there based on the precise footprint of the tool. As it is an improperly programmed CNC mill won't generally destroy the work piece, but rather its tools with improperly set feeds and tool speeds, which is often times a more expensive error than if the mill just destroyed the work piece with an improper cut.. With a large piece like this likely not, but often you'll be working smaller parts like fittings, adapters, or spacers. Where the cost of the material is far below the cost of the tools.
That’s jaw dropping! A piece of art!👍👍👍👍👍
I am very impressed!! Nice video of your capabilities.
Wauw what a huge groove tool. And no vibrations... Amazing machine
At 4:50 it sounds like Inception sound effect
What engine is this for? Seems strange to have slightly off set pistons on the same throw, then a perfectly aligned pair on another throw.
It's just a demo crank, it is to show the machining operations that this particular machine can do. This crank shaft will not run in a car.
However, the split journals are for even fire v6's, so there are vehicles that run the split journal style crankshaft.
autofixation It looks like they've got multiple style journals on this. Some single, some dual. I will say this: Audi/VW loves to use that split throw style setup, I've seen it multiple times in their 2.7 V6 engines.
This is strictly a demo crank to demonstrate the machines capabilities.
I didn't think this was ready for an engine either. The con journals didn't seem to have a final finish on them.
What impresses me the most is the intelligence and knowledge that must go into the design and construction of such a complex and versatile machine and I should have written why is ,cooling not required in some instances.A most interesting video.Thank you.
Hope my previous answer helps, but to add to it.... For this type of steel, where the chips can freely evacuate the work area, the heat leaves with the chip. (Heat is always the killer). For the drilling operations (for example) the chips would Gaul because they can not be freely evacuated. The coolant both cools and helps to push the chips out.
MARTECHcnc
Thank you for the info.I should have thought of that myself.Steel being not simply one substance.Once again,thank you and keep up the good work.
I found this simply wonderful machine, perfect job all this is called technology.
6:57 - Interesting to hear the RPM increase to hold the surface speed constant.
G96
When you use some CAD & CAM program like Mastercam or NX it is not so difficult to make this kind of part. I can even say it is quite simple because this program calculate for you everything. Of course it is possible to do this kind of part manually on control panel as well. You have to just focus on 1 operation at the moment and then when you done with this one just proceed to next one. No rush! Quality first :)
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You would have to be extremely competent to be able to program this on the control panel. You would probably need a masters degree in mathematics as well! Mastercam doesn't set the tools up for you, either.
Eddie J. Parsons The only time you need mastercam or others CAD/CAM software program in this case is simultaneous 4 axis milling. I didn't say it is easy to make this part on control panel. The easiest way is to use some CAD program (can be mastercam again) to find exact points for tool. There is too much calculating to do it manually because of eccentricity.
Mariusz Rodziewicz I use Solidworks (models) and AlphaCAM Mill/Lathe (machining). AlphaCAM is all you need, I definitely wouldn't recommend Winmax for beginners, it's a dreadful software.
Mariusz Rodziewicz
I agree
It seems most of the ''former cnc programmer '' of this comment section have no idea what they're saying
That was AWESOME!
Swiss lathe machinist here. I love watching big pieces get machined
If you watch this video and think that machinists are being made redundant, you are not looking far enough ahead. The human race is being made redundant.
gotta run and program that sucker, it doesn't just do it by itself.
+BA_300_AAC Not yet . . .
someone already said that.
no, more skills are being developed, for instance the 100,s writing the programmes to do this
this is some seriously serious shit! I'm guessing this was programed by a computer where the dimensions/parameters of the object were given and the computer derived the code to make it work. If it was programed by a human or team thereof they are some bad mfkrs!
+Louis Balboa all CNC s work with CAD inputs that means it was first designed in PC by engineer and CAD programmer then CAD design was done by CNC like a 3d printer roughly.
It's not programmed, just a guy eye balling it while controlling a joystick.
R. J Patt ... Ha Ha
Jaxxon: Yes, the typical method on a part like this would be that the part is first designed by CAD and then processed by CAM software.
Very interesting see how a crankshaft is made and also the amazing of the CNC machines.
To answer a question, all Top Fuel engines have a billet crankshafts,blocks, heads, cams, whole superchargers,etc. along with with many other high end race cars, bikes,boats, planes etc. Very pricey items made to survive severe use. I work on a 5 axis machining center and manually program for prototyping. A thinking man's way to have fun. Computers are our friends!
More of these would be good and yeah, this is porn!
Very inetresting automatic CRANK SHAFT all operations machining is very good. I could not observe inherent Q C measures if any tool chip off...etc. IT IS VERY GOOD.
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This is not work...this is pure art!
This is amazing to see.
I allways wanted a crankshaft made out of mild steel bar stock.
Most likely pre heat treated 4140, mild steel doesn't finish like that.
MainsOnTheOhmsRange What makes you think it's mild steel?