15 Shmups That Teach How Shmups Work

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
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    2 - www.mobygames.com/game/raiden
    3 - www.mobygames.com/game/blazin...
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    7 - store.steampowered.com/app/10...
    8 - store.steampowered.com/app/17...
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    10 - store.steampowered.com/app/25...
    11 - store.steampowered.com/app/15...
    12 - store.steampowered.com/app/80...
    13 - store.steampowered.com/app/43...
    14 - store.steampowered.com/app/94200
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    0:00:00 Intro
    0:02:02 Classic Shmups
    0:02:37 1 - R-Type and Gradius
    0:04:56 2 - Raiden
    0:06:30 3 - Blazing Lasers feat. Shoot the Core-cast
    0:09:27 4 - GG Aleste 3 feat. Shmup Junkie
    0:13:34 Bullet Hell
    0:14:40 5 - Dodonpachi
    0:16:11 6 - Mushihimesama feat. The Electric Underground
    0:19:06 7 - Fantastic Danmaku Festival 2
    0:21:37 8 - Crimzon Clover feat. Shmuptopia
    0:24:28 9 - Cho Ren Sha 68K feat. Aktane
    0:29:18 10 - Ikaruga
    0:31:13 11 - Sol Cresta feat. A Skeleton
    0:32:41 Indie Shmups
    0:33:19 12 - Zero Ranger
    0:33:50 13 - Blue Revolver
    0:34:18 14 - Jamestown+
    0:35:06 15 - Schildmaid MX
    0:35:38 Outro
    #shmup #stg #gamedev #arcade
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 71

  • @TheElectricUnderground
    @TheElectricUnderground Рік тому +68

    Awesome work on this video my friend! I bet it was a huge undertaking putting it together!

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +10

      Couldn't have done it without your help. Cheers!

    • @gabrielpineirobermudez4529
      @gabrielpineirobermudez4529 Рік тому +2

      Ey! You are here as well! You and your channel are the reason why I am working on a shmup. I'll share it as soon as I have something I can feel proud of. Thank you Mark.

  • @boghogSTG
    @boghogSTG Рік тому +36

    If you're a developer, I'd say you absolutely HAVE to get into Yagawa style games - Battle Garegga, Armed Police Batrider, Ibara, Pink Sweets. They are *very* hardcore but there are way too many great ideas there to ignore. Even if you don't find them fun, treat it as research & homework. I'd recommend everyone watch this run to get a taste : ua-cam.com/video/8tPVBpjcrxE/v-deo.html
    For actually playing the games, a good way would be to get a taste of dynamic difficulty/resource economies in Blue Revolver's Hyper mode. Then move to Muchi Muchi Pork which is a very simplified take on Yagawa's style. After that Battle Garegga & Batrider shouldn't seem that scary & obscure.
    Also a nice guide! Covered just about every game that'd come to mind. Maybe a "how to learn" follow up is in order ;) IMO getting decent at these games is a must...it's the best way to build your dev intuition. Even if that only means you can no death clear some hard bosses with savestates, or get really good at scoring in early levels.

  • @robertjohnson9187
    @robertjohnson9187 Рік тому +9

    I dumped a lot of quarters into Raiden at my hometown arcade way back when I was in high school.

  • @Eener1000
    @Eener1000 7 місяців тому +6

    Nice. It feels though like most modern shmups are the bullet hell kind. I miss the hero adventure kind like UN Squadron where it feels like you are lone pilot on a galaxy/world saving mission. Hydorah from Locomalito was a nice nod to that lost genre.

  • @septum___
    @septum___ Рік тому +4

    A Lazy Devs featuring A Skeleton !? This is a shmiracle 🤩

  • @daserfomalhaut9809
    @daserfomalhaut9809 10 місяців тому +4

    I love all but 2 of these, but if there's one game I would always recommend people, it's Axelay.
    It's short and sweet, boasting excellent presentation and a feeling of adventure with stakes. Beautiful richly detailed graphics with bold audio. It's a game you play not to 1cc or set a high score but to experience. Not that it tells a phenomenal story or anything, but it's the way the game carries itself through it's tone and powerful aesthetic across varied stages that have subtle hints of world building ending in impressive bosses. It gets you invested to see it through to the satisfying ending sequence making you feel like a hero.
    It's weapon system allows you to personalize a loadout and doubles as a very beginner friendly health system. It makes it very easy to get into being a touch easier than other Konami STG's. It's everything I love about higher echelon Super Nintendo gaming. A masterpiece from Konami.

  • @MovieBinges
    @MovieBinges 9 місяців тому +5

    Great vid featuring some truly legendary Shmups!!
    But I gotta say I'm a little sad that you didn't mention any "Euro" Shmups like Sky Force and Jets'n'Guns which I personally had a lot of fun playing.
    Anyways keep it up!

  • @EdWalker
    @EdWalker Рік тому +8

    This is hands down the best introduction to the Shmup genre I've ever seen. Excellent work!

  • @OGPimpin
    @OGPimpin Місяць тому +1

    I always recommend any Raizing game (once you become decently comfortable with shmups) to learn how to explore scoring systems, rank, etc.

  • @SavageDiavolos
    @SavageDiavolos Рік тому +7

    As a new guy trying to get into Shmups recently, I greatly appreciate this amazing work with all the resources you put together. Thanks to this I'm starting to understand more the intricacies and history of this addictive genre.

  • @goob8945
    @goob8945 3 місяці тому +1

    the shmup community is so tight knit its amazing

  • @fernfernacelli
    @fernfernacelli Місяць тому +1

    *INSTANT* sub.
    With being an avid fan of shooters (what I remember calling the genre before there was a real need for distinction from, at least, first-person shooters) AND being a ‘Day 1’ Transformers fan, the chapter/guest transitions AND the coverage in this video speak to me *at my core*.
    The guests and overall effort is AMAZING here. EXCELLENT!!!
    Shout to Zanac (Atari’s Space Invaders, and then, Zanac, were how I ‘cut my teeth’) and pretty much anything in the ‘Aleste’ realm…
    AWESOME… cheers!
    \m/, 😊 ,\m/

  • @AKTANEARCADE
    @AKTANEARCADE Рік тому +4

    Hahaha the MJ reference was amazing 😂 such a great vid and something that I think is hard to put together!!! This can be referenced for a long time...

  • @PixelisedPaul
    @PixelisedPaul Рік тому +4

    I *will* finish my Ikaruga demake. I actually feel a bit ashamed that I never saw it through for the end of "season 1" but this will surely give me the kick the up the arse to get going again.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +1

      Dude, people were going crazy for the gifs you posted!

  • @blackcitadel37
    @blackcitadel37 2 місяці тому +1

    The entire yt shmup pantheon in a single video :D

  • @ReSpark141
    @ReSpark141 2 місяці тому +1

    the games that got me into wanting to make a schmup is indie dev's Masayuki Ito's Bullet Hell Monday, and .Decluster Zero, they both have their own kind of feel i havent been able to replicate with other schmups, probably because it was on mobile before getting steam ports, and were hella accessable

  • @bc_uk
    @bc_uk Рік тому +5

    There are very few shmups that can lay claim to being "atmospheric". Maybe just a couple of the R-Type titles (especially the original arcade R-Type) and the original arcade 3-screen Darius with stereo sound come to mind. Even the very top-tier STGs I would not really associate with the term "atmospheric". This is an under-developed area in the STG formula I think, or at least long-forgotten.

    • @347573
      @347573 7 місяців тому +1

      Sound maybe in fact a very key ingredient as "Bad Apple" enlarged community can prove!...

  • @basiltermini
    @basiltermini Рік тому

    Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it. And thanks to the guests for all the great suggestions for games to play and research! A recommendation from me would be a flash classic called Frantic 2. It has an awesome soundtrack and a really unique aesthetic. I got the idea of vacuuming remaining bullets to the player from the game. Unfortunately it's not easily accessible anymore since the discontinuation of Flash Player.

  • @mkavo
    @mkavo Рік тому +1

    Wow this series is going to be amazing, really hard to understand how to build a shmuo well, vertical and horizontal, lots of tools out there but no good source of info on what to think about. Really looking forward to this. Gunveins tutorial is best I've seen for understanding shmuos better

  • @zalhietzli
    @zalhietzli Рік тому +1

    Great video ! Can't wait for what's coming next. My recommendations are Guwange, ESP Ra De, GigaWing and Progear !

  • @Undermog
    @Undermog Рік тому +4

    Love it, awesome resource for learning shmup history!

  • @GuilleAcoustic
    @GuilleAcoustic Рік тому +1

    Very nice video ! My two favorites shmups might be Blazing Star (NeoGeo) and Tyrian (PC-DOS)

  • @tritonmame1282
    @tritonmame1282 Рік тому +2

    My personal recomendation is resogun - a gradius-style shooter from housemarque with perfect arcade structure.

  • @LoveXKnife
    @LoveXKnife 8 місяців тому

    I love your channel so much.
    Thanks for all your videos, amazing work.

  • @GojiGuy
    @GojiGuy Рік тому

    Great video! This is like the absolute crash course in shmups

  • @gsbenassi1735
    @gsbenassi1735 Рік тому

    I'm creating a Shmup with modes and art that embrace modernity as well as classics. Shmup is a very small niche these days, but with the right mechanics and game modes, it can attract new players who aren't fans of it.
    The main feature of mine is the "lifetime" that the game will have, as it is possible to be a quick game that pleases niche players, but also has a story mode, with indeed a story that is well developed and attracts interest. With 9 characters (+ 4 types of ships for each), the game will have a great diversity of gameplay and combat, as each one will have unique consequences on the maps, such as a secret boss.

  • @DaKing08
    @DaKing08 6 місяців тому

    I can’t believe you forgot Bullet Hell Monday!
    the mission system and destruction rate feature makes BHM much more intuitive and makes you more inclined to explore, especially since completing all missions in a stage gives more AP for upgrades.
    Some missions have you developing a scoring strategy while others have you speedkilling enemies to complete the stage as fast as possible. Maybe No Miss No Bomb (NMNB) a boss? What about timing it out and waiting until it explodes on itself?
    Seriously, play Bullet Hell Monday.

  • @gamewatcher4417
    @gamewatcher4417 8 місяців тому

    Two that I would like to recommend everyone to play are Progear and Vasara

  • @martinwohrle7887
    @martinwohrle7887 8 місяців тому

    What a great video, thanks!!

  • @rogueabyss
    @rogueabyss Рік тому +1

    I honestly don't get why gradius's follower things are called options

  • @MladenMihajlovic
    @MladenMihajlovic Рік тому +1

    My favourite has always been Slap Fight (also known as Acon) - great graphics, great mechanics, just great game. Also Xenon 2 🙂

  • @ty-xq7bl
    @ty-xq7bl Рік тому

    that was an unexpected collab not that im not complaining

  • @Chronosv2
    @Chronosv2 Рік тому +1

    If you want to check out a shmup treading new ground, give REVOLVER360 a try. It's a shmup where you rotate the playfield around the axis of travel, making it possible to dodge bullets in unique ways and even discover secrets. It's a game I really enjoy and would love for more people to experience.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому

      Good recommendaion! I have it in my Steam library. Just never got to it.

  • @Brosefish1019
    @Brosefish1019 15 днів тому

    Is there a category name for those early 80's shmups like Galaga or Space Invaders?

  • @shaunfreeman972
    @shaunfreeman972 Рік тому

    Rtypes definitely had that 'just one more go' thing. The minotaurs Gridrunner has to get a mention..

  • @Eurallis2
    @Eurallis2 Рік тому

    My recommendations:
    Modern
    Resogun [PS4/PS3/Vita]
    Sky Force Anniversary and Sky Force Reloaded [PC/Switch/PS4/PS3/Xbox/iOS/Android (almost everything)]
    Classic
    Space Megaforce/Super Aleste [SNES]
    Parodius [Arcade/GB/GBC/PSX/PSP/Saturn/Super Famicom]
    I love the long term card collecting and pilot collecting of Sky Force being in my pocket at all times and being able to play one handed. It's a bit rough getting built up, but it always gave me something to come back for more. Resogun, as someone already mentioned, will never leave my PS4. The classics mentioned here are ones that I would love to just zone out and play over and over. Great job with the shmup tutorial Lazy Devs, and keep up the great work you are doing.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому

      Oh man, initially I had Paroidus as a recommendation instead of Gradius. Spent a lot of time with that game on the Game Boy!

  • @Zefrem23
    @Zefrem23 10 місяців тому +1

    O hai Mark!

  • @LoveXKnife
    @LoveXKnife 8 місяців тому

    Epic crossovers

  • @rogueabyss
    @rogueabyss Рік тому

    the pico-8 rtype is cool (zeroranger, and shildmaid MX are fun)

  • @LucidDream1967
    @LucidDream1967 Рік тому +1

    ppl have phd's and doctorates in shmups?..... who knew... ? hehe😄
    i never was a superfan of the genre as im more into platformers
    but after participating in the first tutorial series basicly to learn a little coding.. the charm is getting to me.
    And about charm.... Raiden instantly caught my eye, love the style.
    But the Indie games.........
    why is the indie games so much better looking than the big studio releases?? ZeroRanger!! Hallelujah.... 100%

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +2

      Oh man yeah Zero Ranger is SUCH. A. LOOKER

  • @shikasketchbook7610
    @shikasketchbook7610 Рік тому

    During the late 80s and 90s I played Raiden at the arcade losing alot of coins and remember the later Raiden, u can get the purple homing fat lasers, it was so satisfying to see the fat purple homing laser wipe the screen. Air gallet first I dislike the green laser frm the circling balls then I learn to like it when u get to lock the balls and by keep pressing the button for auto shoot. Progear-love the pixel art, contrast pastel background against the foreground,very cinematic.Classic like Air buster & Air duel I'm glad I played them at the arcade before. Cosmic cop is like a proto Metal Slug (pallette) but with 90s cyber punk anime, the art is A+. Banpresto Super Space Fortress Macross art is amazing too when I played in the arcade, I look forward to the cut scene which is beautiful to look at.
    Basically i think bullet hell is just a live-evolving-floating maze you have to find entry and exit lol, Tq for your time/energy for all your videos

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +1

      Ah yeah the purple toothpase laser. That was Raiden II. Not my personal favorite but a close runner up. And I totally get why it is such a popular entry in the franchise. The particle effects are insane!

  • @rogueabyss
    @rogueabyss Рік тому

    ohhhh, there is gonna be a phase 2

  • @arcoelho01
    @arcoelho01 Рік тому

    First of all, thank you for your videos! I would like to recommend "Squad 51 vs. the Flying Saucers", it's available on Steam. It is a shmup with a cinematic sci-fi b-movie visual and aesthetics.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +1

      I saw that! That looked so rad!

  • @VanArtic
    @VanArtic Рік тому

    34:06
    oh look its me :)

  • @RobertoRenovato
    @RobertoRenovato Рік тому

    I recommend Super Hydorah, by Locomalito, if you haven't seen already. He also made other very cool retro-inspired games.

  • @harrihaffi2713
    @harrihaffi2713 2 місяці тому

    I wonder what shmup has the best story…

  • @soratheorangejuicemascot5809

    Great video. I tend to prefer weirder shmups like Suguri and Hellsinker but those games can teach you a bad habit.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому

      Oh man, need to wrap my head around Hellsinker!

  • @347573
    @347573 7 місяців тому

    Xenon 2 Megablast!! :)

  • @soratheorangejuicemascot5809

    19:03 his Bayonetta 3 video is turning into a microwave.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому

      Bayonetta was always a hot take magnet. Not touching that game before the dust has settled.

  • @liamconverse8950
    @liamconverse8950 8 місяців тому

    Raiden borrows very heavily from Toaplan's vertical shooters like Truxton and Fireshark

  • @dnos1979
    @dnos1979 Рік тому

    Definitely a big fan of Raiden and Raiden 2. Sky Force series is also very good. What about old dos shooters Raptor and Tyrian? They were awesome shmup rpgs.

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому +2

      Raptor, Tyrian and Sky Force count to the so-called Euroshmups. Generally not very liked in the Shmup community. Will discuss later why. I have to admit that Sky Force does a good job at keeping you motivated.

  • @wewyllenium
    @wewyllenium 9 місяців тому

    moai are in gradiius because 80s japan was into ancient aliens.

  • @FabricioKarim
    @FabricioKarim Рік тому

    I dont play many shmups, buy Tiger Heli, Steal Empire and Thunder Force V...I player a Lot!
    PS: I Sense Superfriends vibes

    • @LazyDevs
      @LazyDevs  Рік тому

      Oh yeah Tiger Heli was basically the game that Raiden copied. Need to play Thunder Force. Heard good things about it!

  • @319t.j.5
    @319t.j.5 Рік тому +1

    play eschatos