2022 Elite Envision 50m Comparison
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2022
- We are comparing two bows - the Elite Rezult and the Elite Envision, shooting them at different distances and environments. In this video, we are shooting the Elite Envision at 50m. In the next, we will do the Rezult at 50m.
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I love the constant chatter. You really describe what's going on in a relatable way to the actions we can clearly see. I'm a massive fan of watching. Please keep us updated with all you do! 🙌
The last end you can tell your 1st shot was perfect A lot of people don't realize when that shoulder is creeping up that your shot is gonna be super weak and usually you either pull out the top or drop out the bottom because you're trying the bottom because it's not bone on bone contact You're actually trying to use muscle to hold the bow up
I'm a mathews guy, but I won a fully setup elite envision from lancaster archery at their steel challenge. I've been shooting the envision alot while waiting on strings for my v3x, and I've been really impressed with how good it holds and shoots. Even out to 120 yards it's shooting 3-4 inch groups. Great bow for sure and very adjustable.
I have a v3x 33 loaded and dialed in but thought bout an elite. Do you still prefer your v3x?
Thank you Steven l love watching other people shoot being that I don't have an archery club around me, plus it was nice seeing that arrows don't always slap into tight groups. Thanks for the video 🏹🤠👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Still would like to send you some pictures of my "Serpent Focus" which I have thoroughly enjoyed. 🏹🤠👍
Hey Steven while i was watching this video i noticed that you change your release hand when you're aiming .... some times your thumb is on your neck and some times it's just floating close to the peg, so you're changing your pressure hence different firing of the arrow .... Great video love it ..
Really like this bows features. Just wondering what point weight & arrow length you are running on this setup.
what app are you using on the phone ?
I number my arrows and keep a notebook on top of my target and I write the arrow number down that is not where the rest are. I shoot them all ten times and at the end I look to see what arrows are always not consistent with the rest. I usually pull that arrow and try putting a new nock in a different position and put new vanes in a different location. I try the arrow again. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Have you ever heard of this or am I just fooling myself?
Yes! some arrows have different grains, although very slight, at longer distances, this would have a great effect - shown in the new Rezult video. the nock could also be a point of failure
Did you check the peep height for the 50 ? I usually have endless trouble with peep/anchor going outdoor with 90m (not usually too bad closer for me, but anchor gets very loose at 90 with short distance peep). Have been blinded by my hoyt limb pockets on a couple of occasions, after which I covered them in electrical tape and didn't have that problem any more ! Other new and interesting problems after that
The peep hight was adjusted very roughly, about 6" above the d-loop. My anchor point was shifting very slightly due to the wind pushing my bow - which made a huge effect on my aim.
If u had binocs u could have adjusted your sight but it might not have mattered if your shoulder wasn't in the right position upon release. I like shooting longer distances to build confidence. But when it doesn't build that the fun is always sucked right out of it.
Unfortunately, I didn't have one prepared, and to keep the fairness of the test, I will be shooting the Rezult without one as well.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Sounds fair. I'm a Prime guy who used to be a PSE guy. But the Elite is catching my attention.
If you want to understand arrow wind drift effect at longer distances like 50 meters 70 meters? Shoot from inside a building a few feet on days with different winds speeds. Breaking great shots will show you. Arrow diameter makes a huge difference in drift. A 30 mph wind can move 23 shafts like 2 1/2 to 3”.
how much does stabilizer lenght affect you actually? I'm usually shooting outdoors so i went for a 28" one, wouldn't mind 26 with tungsten weights though.
The longer the stabilizer, the more steady your bow becomes - up to a certain point. There is a great article talking about this: limbsaver.com/pages/does-size-matter
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale i get that, i should've made the question more clear. You think something like a windbar is worth the investment or not? Assuming one can actually hold up the weight that is.
Does the number of end differ from 18m(10 ends) and 50m(12 ends)?
Obviously I'm not a competition shooter.
For competition rounds you are mostly correct.
Indoor will be 2x 30 arrows, 10 ends a round
50m round is 2x36 arrows, 12 ends a round
Who makes that sight?
Could the peep sight be built into the release mechanism somehow? Could that work?
No...Why would you want that anyway?
No, the peep sight is the ring which you align the bowstring with the sight, you create a scope through it. It is not a part of the release aid.
Face it,bud...Elite bows suit you best...
Don't fight it, just rock on on with it 💪🏽
Wearing a baseball cap or wide brimmed hat can help to shade your peep from the Sun ..... also I find my point of impact changes when the gold is in shade compared to full Sun on the face.
There's also a fact that it looks like to me that you're not Completely sighted in
Have you heard of people bubbling their sight for the wind Across the target left to righto write I'm pretty sure they will bubble there they will bubble toward the left with their sight
The sight level bubble? Canting the bow to make the sight bubble move can be very useful in some situations, however, it can also de-rail the bowstring so I wouldn't recommend it
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale I'm not talking about canting the bow that can hard though just a little bit like a quarter of a bubble
That's what scares me away from colored strings a lot of the time is because I'm afraid the sun
You can definitely tell the good shots from the bad shots like that 1 out to the left I feel like you jerked the bow to the left the left maybe not maybe I'm wrong and if I was you and if that ground was aleening behind behind me I would build me some type of Box that I could stand on that was 100% level
need a spotting scope dood!!!
At 50m you definitely need one! I didn't have one handy, unfortunately.
I think you’re holding the bow too long before the release
You are definitely more wobbly at the 50 metres compared to super rock steady at 18..wind?mind tricks???
Yes! the wind was truly awful today. Also mentioned in the video, I have not shot 50m in a long while. Archery is a mental game!
I hate shooting on uneven footing in competition. I practice on level concrete. Shooting for score is mentally taxing compared to just shooting at home. I get so damn frustrated as my scores fall way off at competition because I am so worried about making a high score. Like it matters really??? It’s a fricking hobby? for me. It’s about staying in shooting shape for hunting 99%. My mindset when shooting at animals is totally different than 3-d shooting. I am very selective on live animal shots and very very seldom make a poor hit. Mind games!,,,
I find myself watching these videos over just to learn from everybody let's see what people say John Dudley is a beast I mean He's done the whole thing the hope of fashion Archer or else he wouldn't have been on void's pro staff for like 20 years and now you wouldn't Be on PSE staff either either it be one thing if he was just a influencer that they gave him some bows and sponsor him but like hes giving them ideals on bows and how to build them Like they're sending him prototypes to test and I know they got the Stage where they send all the professional archers archers the bow it's called the proving ground just to get some input input but it's a little bit different with Dudley because libecause like hes telling them how to build the boat not just giving them ideals I mean you really can't read is it re record shooting at animal and I've watched him reach out and touch them at very far distance on videos Now I'm not saying that he couldn't have done a couple of takes cause you're right people don't shoot perfect every time but I have watched his older videos of him shooting live like doing lives dude Can absolutely pound
2nd shot I don't know which end you're on I think you're 13 right now that's 2nd shot you broke and watched the bow fly forward your arm goes back and it hits the X at 70 m how many meters so makes that Form is in line
Need to loosen the d-loop when facing windy situations. Make sure she is snug and loose! get softer d-loop material also. Better results all in all imo! the past parallel is NOT helping you in the wind, those long bars either imo! i only shoot in a very windy field outside. it's all i have! :)
Damn bloody wind!!! So very difficult to have a solid hold. I practice to 60 yards in mild winds with a hot thumb button just for spot/ stalk deer and wild hog hunting. Many days it’s hard to hit a 8” paper dinner plate which is IMO NOT A KILL ZONE DIAMETER!
I've using full target setup on my Ember and Stinger before & entering countless local 50m tournament. No problem at all. Score and grouping also not bad. Why i doing that?
1. target compound super expensive, shorter ATA cheaper here
2. can use hunting, 3d & target. Why must buy 3 bow for each type? Wasting money
3. most shorter ATA is insanely adjustable. I can pass to my kids
Some archer with long & expensive bow (mostly) are racist and laugh at us using puny bow. I ask them back "I can shoot well with it, is there a problem here?"
I dont think your word racist is the proper for what your describing. Ive not seen too many archers that would thumb their nose at anybody for their equipment. If its been directed at you before im sorry someone did that. Its dumb. As ling as you like what your using and have fun keep doing what your doing. When you want to get to the next level equipment does factor in. It will never replace skill and proper form. I could beat most with a Bear whitetail bow with the metal wheels and cables. I couldn’t be competitive at a National match with it. But it would be fun. Keep shooting the short ata bow if it works for you and dont listen to anybody that tries to put you down for it. Just go beat them and they will shut up.
What are you going on about
I shot it n the encore n terrain , take those two over the envision
Looks protected from the wind in that tunnel like area. Man of many excuses. Bet a wind indicator would barely be moving down there.
Are you on the outs with PSE? One year it’s all about PSE and now it’s Elite. FYI Mathews and Hoyt are not suffering for your disdain of them 🤷🏽♂️ Why don’t you set these bows up optimally for you before you do these videos?!
It looks like you’ve copied John Dudley’s colors - black and chartreuse green -
Perhaps you should challenge John Dudley to compete against you and then we would see who is good and who is a chump!?!?
Too many variables and excuses in your vids!
Lol for someone who's so big mad you sure seem to be a loyal follower 🤣
@@otheropinionssuck lol😂I know right? Just can’t help razzing him a little!
Not worth watching 40 mins of this
Then don't 🤷
Compound cowboy haha enough said .............