The only two things I disagree with is characterizing Boxing as modern. The Sweet Science is ancient and it's ability to teach a layman the necessities of controlling distance and how to strike properly and repeatedly are invaluable, especially in compressed time frames. I also take umbrage with the similar characterization of Wrestling. However the entire thing becomes as reductive as it is mythical given the persistence of human anatomy throughout history. The heart, lungs, spine, brain, stomach, kidneys and liver in addition to there associated anatomical structures have changed little in position over the course of the last 5,000 years or more. While bone and muscle densities have varied greatly, it strikes me as unlikely that the nervous system would be significantly displaced during this interval. Thus, we find grossly similar forms and techniques among what I prefer to articulate as Hard Base MAs versus Soft Base. I've tried to construct it in a more polite fashion for practitioners of MAs that prefer to rely on SB techniques, but I cannot go any further without causing distress and for that I apologize. All MAs that do not have the epistemological precepts to properly deconstruct total violence are abjectly useless. While SB techniques are an absolute requirement for MA practitioners, neglecting HB techniques leaves styles vulnerable and incomplete. Hard Base techniques are necessary for the bunkai of very dangerous circumstances: since these are what we, as practitioners of whatever style, frequently meditate on and indeed, tell others we have expertise in; it is of vital importance that we are able to perform through all levels of violent encounter, in an exemplary fashion. Not merely expertly. This, is quite the burden and thus is why those who follow the path of Total Deterrence tell others that there's no such thing as fighting and fighting is to be avoided. Those who cannot solve the Riddle of the Sphinx may not enter and it has always been thus. Examples of SB techniques: armbars, wristlocks, gutwrenches, etc Examples of HB techniques: neckcranks, nerval strikes, tares/rips, et alia The delineation being one can "dial back" something like an armbar or a wristlock. A nerval strike is usually forever. Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy is a perfect example of the consequences of repeated nerval strikes to a highly protected area. Ibidem, Dementia Pugilistica. QED So what is a traditional martial art? In my view, it is one that has carried the understanding of the true nature of resolving totally antisocial interactions, into there forms. This is also why conditioning is very a large part of such systems and why extreme charactorological examinations are/were apart of there curricula for both students, but especially instructors. My style is also Goju. Let us remember. Traditionally, there were no police and in many parts of the world, it's not a great idea to get the police involved. Even in the country for which I served. Tragically. Not sure I have much to add after that, but I hope you find it useful.
Greetings Possibly 'traditional/classical' might be taken to mean 'complete/wholistic', in the sense of encompassing percussive impact, balance displacement, joint locks, chokes/strangles and escapes/counters? Percussive impact as counter to locks/chokes/stand up grappling/seizing, balance displacement to counter percussive impact and seizing/chokes etc. as counters to balance displacement. This is 'long -standing' perspective of chinese arts... in this context, 'classical/traditional' is defined by function, not form. Also, ala McCarthy et al, 'classical/traditional' might be defined by intersection of the above with curricula framed by progession from two-person applications to kata-as-solo-reenactment thereof... Love you site... kudos, sir!
You put a lot of thought and most of your videos are excellent. This is a decent video with two glaring incredibly wrong points. 1. Okinawans have had access to dumbbells and barbells (proper weightlifitng equipment) because the Chinese arts that influenced them and the styles Karate was based on/influenced by had barbells (very old), dumbells (various sized and shaped like stone locks) , handing sand bags of various size to include heavy bag size. It was there when the art was being developed. 2. the assumption is that the Chinese and Okinawans were bad at developing optimal training equipment that specifically targeted the attributes and characteristics they wanted to develop. The ngiri game, makiwara et al produce the kind of performance of technique, and kata they thought they needed. That type of training might not help them win a wuko championship, a kickboxing match etc, but those pieces of equipment gave them what they wanted in the way they wanted for the uses they wanted. That's why many of them still get used, because they might not want to use bouncing footwork, high volume punching, beautiful high kicks etc etc. The "improvements" of one type of training with it's set of equipment might be "detriments" to another goal set.
16:25 yep learning martial arts twice a week for an hour is completely different than a century ago. I do a Japanese Jujutsu that is based on a koryu. They flat out have said to be good at the art is upwards of 20 years of training a few times a week. Cause Samurai, and I know we aren't Samurai, probably began training at like age 5. Several times a week. So when they were 16 and "adults" they were ready to use it.
Sensei Yagi Akihito brought me here!
Great video! New sub, enjoying your channel.
I have a tradition of watching and commenting. Great stuff!
Tradition passed down the Armstrong line for generations 💪💪👊
Hitting a makiwara and swinging a Chi ishi is pretty damn fun though!
You got me there!
The intro alone is the content we definitely need in Martial Arts/Karate UA-cam
i have to agree with you on all of this, pretty well done! keep on the good work
I truly enjoyed thus video.
Dropping a like. Enjoyed the video thank you👍
The "debate" is between "martial arts" and "combat sports", and arises because there are people who can't distinguish between the two.
The only two things I disagree with is characterizing Boxing as modern. The Sweet Science is ancient and it's ability to teach a layman the necessities of controlling distance and how to strike properly and repeatedly are invaluable, especially in compressed time frames. I also take umbrage with the similar characterization of Wrestling.
However the entire thing becomes as reductive as it is mythical given the persistence of human anatomy throughout history. The heart, lungs, spine, brain, stomach, kidneys and liver in addition to there associated anatomical structures have changed little in position over the course of the last 5,000 years or more. While bone and muscle densities have varied greatly, it strikes me as unlikely that the nervous system would be significantly displaced during this interval. Thus, we find grossly similar forms and techniques among what I prefer to articulate as Hard Base MAs versus Soft Base. I've tried to construct it in a more polite fashion for practitioners of MAs that prefer to rely on SB techniques, but I cannot go any further without causing distress and for that I apologize.
All MAs that do not have the epistemological precepts to properly deconstruct total violence are abjectly useless. While SB techniques are an absolute requirement for MA practitioners, neglecting HB techniques leaves styles vulnerable and incomplete. Hard Base techniques are necessary for the bunkai of very dangerous circumstances: since these are what we, as practitioners of whatever style, frequently meditate on and indeed, tell others we have expertise in; it is of vital importance that we are able to perform through all levels of violent encounter, in an exemplary fashion. Not merely expertly. This, is quite the burden and thus is why those who follow the path of Total Deterrence tell others that there's no such thing as fighting and fighting is to be avoided. Those who cannot solve the Riddle of the Sphinx may not enter and it has always been thus.
Examples of SB techniques: armbars, wristlocks, gutwrenches, etc
Examples of HB techniques: neckcranks, nerval strikes, tares/rips, et alia
The delineation being one can "dial back" something like an armbar or a wristlock. A nerval strike is usually forever. Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy is a perfect example of the consequences of repeated nerval strikes to a highly protected area. Ibidem, Dementia Pugilistica. QED
So what is a traditional martial art? In my view, it is one that has carried the understanding of the true nature of resolving totally antisocial interactions, into there forms. This is also why conditioning is very a large part of such systems and why extreme charactorological examinations are/were apart of there curricula for both students, but especially instructors.
My style is also Goju. Let us remember. Traditionally, there were no police and in many parts of the world, it's not a great idea to get the police involved. Even in the country for which I served. Tragically.
Not sure I have much to add after that, but I hope you find it useful.
Good job, Goju!
Great video!!
Osu😂
Greetings
Possibly 'traditional/classical' might be taken to mean 'complete/wholistic', in the sense of encompassing percussive impact, balance displacement, joint locks, chokes/strangles and escapes/counters? Percussive impact as counter to locks/chokes/stand up grappling/seizing, balance displacement to counter percussive impact and seizing/chokes etc. as counters to balance displacement. This is 'long -standing' perspective of chinese arts... in this context, 'classical/traditional' is defined by function, not form. Also, ala McCarthy et al, 'classical/traditional' might be defined by intersection of the above with curricula framed by progession from two-person applications to kata-as-solo-reenactment thereof...
Love you site... kudos, sir!
You put a lot of thought and most of your videos are excellent. This is a decent video with two glaring incredibly wrong points. 1. Okinawans have had access to dumbbells and barbells (proper weightlifitng equipment) because the Chinese arts that influenced them and the styles Karate was based on/influenced by had barbells (very old), dumbells (various sized and shaped like stone locks) , handing sand bags of various size to include heavy bag size. It was there when the art was being developed. 2. the assumption is that the Chinese and Okinawans were bad at developing optimal training equipment that specifically targeted the attributes and characteristics they wanted to develop. The ngiri game, makiwara et al produce the kind of performance of technique, and kata they thought they needed. That type of training might not help them win a wuko championship, a kickboxing match etc, but those pieces of equipment gave them what they wanted in the way they wanted for the uses they wanted. That's why many of them still get used, because they might not want to use bouncing footwork, high volume punching, beautiful high kicks etc etc. The "improvements" of one type of training with it's set of equipment might be "detriments" to another goal set.
16:25 yep learning martial arts twice a week for an hour is completely different than a century ago.
I do a Japanese Jujutsu that is based on a koryu. They flat out have said to be good at the art is upwards of 20 years of training a few times a week.
Cause Samurai, and I know we aren't Samurai, probably began training at like age 5. Several times a week. So when they were 16 and "adults" they were ready to use it.
00:00 xavier renagade angel when rambles about karate. 😆
...ok, right now, ya gotta go watch Blade Runner!
Holy fuck bro
I dnot see it in the comments so ill do it not all karate dojo say ous ! Lol
How can Anbo Jytsu be traditional when it is “the ultimate evolution in the martial arts”?
I want the anti osu patch. Sell me one you bastard
Merch idea for when I get monetized lol
Dharma taught sholin priest kalipayutte.