@@johnmc3862 They gave a lot of credit to Ireland after their test win. Then the media seemed to hit back hard at Fozzy in the days after. Media can be brutal at times!
Rugby championship is the best competition because they prepare good teams . Imagine every year in July-August, boks all blacks Australia Argentina play together . The level is top . These teams will be always in semifinals, final world cups !
The better team lost today! Wonder why we're not replaying last minute "knock on"??? Ireland slowly starting to realize they're not even top 5 material...
Again why call de South cry baby?..South rugby be on fire..results speakin for itself..maybe you gone mean we cryin due to tears of joy da way dee South playin..actually I gone be agreeing wit ya..you be right..cryin tears of joy!!°
Yeah and beat SA away and score a record win against France away and win back to back 6 nations, one of them a grand slam. Just as well rugby isnt a top sport in Ireland.
The best commentary & punditry I’ve heard was NZ during the test games. Fair, balanced and celebrating good rugby and giving credit. Virgin panel talk too much about everything Ireland does wrong instead of a balanced analysis. Squidge rugby does the best analysis on youtube. Irish media are not a great reflection of genuine fans. 🇮🇪 Argentina-well played and brave to go for a try in the end💪 .
I was rooting for Argentina the whole way but they were their own worst enemies with the two yellows and the decision to kick for 3 when they were camped out in the Irish 22
Did anyone actually see that "knock on" that ended the game? Even the ref wasn't convinced just caved to the yells of the Irish players, unfortunately ireland were saved by the ref at the end let's be honest
Ireland rugby took a feather out of the the French broadcasters playbook, on a few occasions might I add. Even one of the arg players hand gestured that something was wrong at the end
Argentina has beaten south africa ,the all blacks and aussies this year.ireland beat south africa ealier j the year.what it says is all nthe top teams are incredibly close and its just who plays the best on any particular day.from a kiwi !
@@Cpchurch87 They edged a third string South African side missing 14 of its starters. Against the first string team they lost 48-7. Face it, Ireland is washed.
@@jacquescoetzee47 are teams not allowed have dips? Even NZ and SA have them. Also, I thought the Novembers meant nothing and they were a chance to try new things and build between WC cycles. Or at least, that’s what we kept getting told when we were winning them. Now that we lost one and had a rough day today they are a sign of a team in decline? Can’t have it both ways
How can we southerners be cryin when we be playin winnin rugby..we gone be on fire..Boks..ALL Blacks..Wallabies are back baby..Argies can take anyone on..my goodness even our Fijian cousins flying de flag for South...only tears cryin may be tears of joy regarding da results of the Southerners!!!!
So they mentioned Ireland's illdiscipline but failed to mention how Argentina's poor discipline let Ireland off the hook too. I want to watch proper analysis from the so called experts, but with the Irish media you generally just get cheerleaders making excuses for an obviously waning team. Last week it was rust, this week it was Ireland's poor discipline, these guys will just continue to talk up Ireland.
How useless is Ireland these days? And no, it's not a blip. It's a decline. And a lucky yellow to rub out the Pumas 1st try. The Irish player clearly pushed upwards into the tacklers head. It wasn't even a penalty imo. Robbed.
These people making negative comments really need to get a life. Great match, Pumas defence was excellent, unlucky not to get something from the game. Well done Ireland, time for rebuilding 🇮🇪💚☘
This is not the same Ireland that beat the Springboks at home earlier this year. That Ireland was an exceptional team, this one here is an average team. They need to sort themselves out before the next World Cup.
Totally agree Argentina are probably the best team at this moment .and will be number one absolutely the team who have evolved in the last number of years.
Pretty dubious first yellow card which was a 14 point turn around. No hia for either of Doris or Crowleys “massive” head knocks. If thats a qtr final in Sydney Ireland would be going home again.
Shane arrogance and denial of the ageing Irish team who has been figured out, hes lack of respect for the black jersey. This kind of entitlement is not going to win you no world cup
Those were the errors that gave Ireland a victory in Durban...Definitely double standards against Springboks they were apparently great...Wow and they supposed to be experts... A real joke of opinions 😢
No score in 2nd half, lineout problems ... yellow cards , penalty count , going for a corner when points there for the taking....come on fellas get a grip!
Argentina were missing quite a number of players too. Los Puma doesn’t quite have the depth of many top teams but their top 25-28 players compete at a very high level and the French based boys and Kremer were out
Argentina stayed in the fight in the first half, kicked their penalties very similar to NZ but gave Ireland lots of opportunities because they could not exit. Beating a good Argentina side in form with picking up two yellow cards is not a bad day. Lots to work on regarding the attack.
It always boggles my mind in sports in general that people can't see the writing on the wall for a struggling team like Ireland. Half of that Ireland team needs swapping out for younger blood or just new players. It's not because half of the team have become bad players overnight. The team simply needs fresh minds and legs, NOW!!!! You can always bring back players after a lengthy break.
Tough game, but top teams win when it counts. Ask SA and the rest... At least there was more than a point in it 😊 Argentina are a very good side, well done Ireland after just one game.
Looks like Irelands greet era is petering out. We will see a raft of new players coming in over the next 18 months with a lot of their legends needing to retire Bad timing on their part as Andy Farrell is on sabbatical with the lions. Who’s going to put this new team together?
Talking about the NZ result in the way they are is just strange. NZ is a phenomenal side that is better than Ireland. Ireland was at their peak winning the series in NZ, NZ were using it as prep to peak for the World Cup, which they were 1 point shy in
Pumas looked physically stronger against the top four teams of the world this year. Even march. Ireland was lucky at the end, pumas won many matches in the last minutes.
Ireland are in denial its ok your next losses will be big & Ireland will know how NZ feels When We Loose but NZ have been winning over a century Ireland for 7 years got 5 wins & now You will be getting done like before humbleness is not one of Ireland's strengths
These guys are just not accepting the clear drop in standard and if they don't ask the right questions they'll wake up at number 7 next year , that's all they play (rankings) for in international rugby anyways ...
Ireland is starting to crumble... lol. Their ego's cost them the World Cup and now the downward spiral is starting. Prediction: Next WC they won't reach quarters. Well done Argentina, you guys were the better team!!
Discipline didn’t cost you last week. You had to give away penalties because you were being beaten . It was either fitness or the loose forwards wearnt up to it!
Pundits not giving credit to NZ last week.NZ kicked short deliberately as they have done to beat SA, bear Irl in line out and scrum. Put pressure in ruck causing penalties. We need to be more inventive and have more intent.
Ireland Rugby is on a decline, their best years are behind them. It will be hard for their media and supporters to accept it, but it's evident for everyone to see.
More broadly the last six games for Ireland are a bit rubbish. Off the back of (another) terrible RWC - you had a 6n win overall - great - but I think it’s loss to England, narrrow win over Scotland (4pts), win and loss to SA (albeit in SA), loss to NZ and narrow win over Argentina. One good game in that last 6.
Southern hemisphere teams are tough to beat. A win is a win. France will probably beat the Kiwis tomorrow and England should see off the Saffas with ease.
Thought the referee was letting Argentina away with a lot, especially after the early domination from Ireland. The penalty against Lowe should have been an Irish penalty…. The standard of refereeing is not good across the board.
What game were you watching. The ref was bad but both sides .Doris should have been yellow carded at the ruck .Yeah Ireland were very dominant scored 2 tries when the opposition had 14 men .
You would think these 3 eggs would give a little credit to how well Argentina played
Agree, panel spending too much time discussing Irelands shortfalls (as usual).Argentina were very strong & deserved more credit.
True enough but most pundits do it. When NZ lose it is never about how good the other team were.
@@johnmc3862 They gave a lot of credit to Ireland after their test win. Then the media seemed to hit back hard at Fozzy in the days after. Media can be brutal at times!
The way Ireland are celebrating at the end you'd think they had just won a quarterfinal or something lol
These three clowns were spewing garbage during WC. Virgin should replace em, especially Matt Williams
Argentina looked like the better team today. Ireland was lucky to win it in the last second only a few meters away from their own in-goal.
Argentina were good in the first half were they???
For a 10mins period in 1st half@@MorrisdeSaucer
Not gonna talk about how you robbed Argentina to get a win??
Excuses and crying, blaming refs we were robbed 😢😢😢😢😢 typical southern hemisphere reaction 😂😂😂
No because they didn’t. Argentina aren’t good enough. They beat good teams they lose to them by a cricket score.
@@MrJonnyd81in the world cup only you cry... you can't beat THE ARGIES ... ireland never in a semi-final... the ARGIES 3 TIMES
@@MrJonnyd81 Don't be that. Come on !! This is not about southern or northen hemisphere!! It's just sport!. Best wishes.
@@MrJonnyd81 poor refereeing at the end. Ireland are slowly being found out for continual offending. The start of the end of their best era.
Rugby championship is the best competition because they prepare good teams .
Imagine every year in July-August, boks all blacks Australia Argentina play together . The level is top . These teams will be always in semifinals, final world cups !
and that's why Southern Hemisphere won 90% world cup and North just 10%
Of course...
The better team lost today! Wonder why we're not replaying last minute "knock on"??? Ireland slowly starting to realize they're not even top 5 material...
Ireland can score great tries against 14 players....
😢😢😢😢 southern hemisphere cry baby 🍼🍼🍼🍼
Again why call de South cry baby?..South rugby be on fire..results speakin for itself..maybe you gone mean we cryin due to tears of joy da way dee South playin..actually I gone be agreeing wit ya..you be right..cryin tears of joy!!°
Yeah and beat SA away and score a record win against France away and win back to back 6 nations, one of them a grand slam. Just as well rugby isnt a top sport in Ireland.
They still won and that's all that matters it's England's turn now to beat South Africa.
Stupid little comment , silly boy
Ireland extremely lucky to get away with a win
Weren’t that lucky, it wasn’t a fluke.
Come on, the Argies are a good team now guys. Give them credit. It was a tough game.
The best commentary & punditry I’ve heard was NZ during the test games. Fair, balanced and celebrating good rugby and giving credit. Virgin panel talk too much about everything Ireland does wrong instead of a balanced analysis. Squidge rugby does the best analysis on youtube. Irish media are not a great reflection of genuine fans. 🇮🇪 Argentina-well played and brave to go for a try in the end💪 .
As an ABs fan, I enjoy listening to different dialects and perceptions. Ozzies can be a bit insufferable. 😢
Argentina get robbed . Referee saved poor Ireland !
Absolute bullshit he non stop turned blind eye to argie infringements
Clear. That is genuine home refereeing
100%
I was rooting for Argentina the whole way but they were their own worst enemies with the two yellows and the decision to kick for 3 when they were camped out in the Irish 22
2 irish penalties in the last minut
Did anyone actually see that "knock on" that ended the game? Even the ref wasn't convinced just caved to the yells of the Irish players, unfortunately ireland were saved by the ref at the end let's be honest
@@JackN13_ I’m still yet to find a replay of it
@@thugtrippinme too
Ireland rugby took a feather out of the the French broadcasters playbook, on a few occasions might I add. Even one of the arg players hand gestured that something was wrong at the end
2,453 camera angle replays for a try-no try situation, but zip, for that...
Argentina has beaten south africa ,the all blacks and aussies this year.ireland beat south africa ealier j the year.what it says is all nthe top teams are incredibly close and its just who plays the best on any particular day.from a kiwi !
Ireland barely getting by at home😂😂😂
Didn’t the Argentinian side beat SA and NZ this year??? NZ at home
@@Cpchurch87 They edged a third string South African side missing 14 of its starters. Against the first string team they lost 48-7.
Face it, Ireland is washed.
@@jacquescoetzee47 are teams not allowed have dips? Even NZ and SA have them. Also, I thought the Novembers meant nothing and they were a chance to try new things and build between WC cycles. Or at least, that’s what we kept getting told when we were winning them. Now that we lost one and had a rough day today they are a sign of a team in decline? Can’t have it both ways
@@jacquescoetzee47won 25 of the last 30 games Ireland is washed?
@@jacquescoetzee47haven't Ireland beaten south Africa at home this year?
Argentina robbed, at least two penalties overlooked by the referee. And a non existent knock on ending the match
You could argue both ways, Argentina were unlucky in my opinion as an Irishman but they got away with few the ref missed.
@leonardodavinci7425 can't see both ways, you are saying pretty the same than me
Typical southern hemisphere crying and blaming the ref, not surprised 😢😢😢😢 🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼
How can we southerners be cryin when we be playin winnin rugby..we gone be on fire..Boks..ALL Blacks..Wallabies are back baby..Argies can take anyone on..my goodness even our Fijian cousins flying de flag for South...only tears cryin may be tears of joy regarding da results of the Southerners!!!!
Don't forget that de flying Fijians only have a professional playing pool of a few "dozen"..not de "tousands " playin pro footy in da North!!!
Ireland in shambles 😂😂😂 nose dive from their precious number 1 spot inbound
A joke this team . Look at their clown James Lowe to boot ball … staying losing .
😢😢😢 southern hemisphere excuses crying 😂😂😂
@@MrJonnyd81 southern hemisphere running a train on the north rn
lol utter jealous nonsense.
@@johnmc3862 jealous of what? 0 world cups? No one is jealous of Ireland. Your best players are kiwis and South Africans
So they mentioned Ireland's illdiscipline but failed to mention how Argentina's poor discipline let Ireland off the hook too. I want to watch proper analysis from the so called experts, but with the Irish media you generally just get cheerleaders making excuses for an obviously waning team. Last week it was rust, this week it was Ireland's poor discipline, these guys will just continue to talk up Ireland.
AB fan here. Argentina not to be underestimated, they have some awesome ball players. Well done Ireland
Ireland got very, very lucky there. By the way, has anyone seen footage of that last knock-on? Asking for a friend...
The hit on Crowley should have been a red for a start.
@johnmc3862 What, for the diving and rolling around on the ground?
@@mjribes
I was at the game working for it doing pitch side patrolling. It was a knock from where I and the sideline match official saw it.
How useless is Ireland these days? And no, it's not a blip. It's a decline.
And a lucky yellow to rub out the Pumas 1st try. The Irish player clearly pushed upwards into the tacklers head. It wasn't even a penalty imo. Robbed.
Ireland's down ward spiral made a another turn😂
Salty Southern hemisphere, everyone sick of your crying
Ireland also turned down going for the posts twice in the second half, take your points when on offer especially in a tight game
They won didn’t they. Easy to say after the event.
Hahaha the reff saved you Argintina won this match. Give credit to Argintina they were alot more hungry in the second half
It was good while it lasted lads
Argentina were really good - That said Ireland IMO have actually regressed since last year
Saved by the ref.
These people making negative comments really need to get a life. Great match, Pumas defence was excellent, unlucky not to get something from the game.
Well done Ireland, time for rebuilding 🇮🇪💚☘
You are right.
Ireland milking penalties, you guys are a joke, shame for rugby if this is the way to win
Congrats Argentina more than Ireland.
Will Matt concede Boks 5-3 split is in the spirit of the game
Argentina got robbed. Ireland didn't deserve to win that game at all. Ref helped. Thump up to Pumas.
Argentina had Irelands number, No 1 no more, you lost your chance, Boks, ABs and Wallabies are coming to eat the NH's lunch!
This is not the same Ireland that beat the Springboks at home earlier this year. That Ireland was an exceptional team, this one here is an average team. They need to sort themselves out before the next World Cup.
@@MosesMatsepane they got lucky with those drop goals quit playing
Argentina are the best country in the world at football/ Rugby. Great folks
Totally agree Argentina are probably the best team at this moment .and will be number one absolutely the team who have evolved in the last number of years.
Pretty dubious first yellow card which was a 14 point turn around. No hia for either of Doris or Crowleys “massive” head knocks. If thats a qtr final in Sydney Ireland would be going home again.
Wow. 5 million people and 4th sport...... Is that the new statement, Ireland?
Yeah. I wonder what is the population of Wales? When they win they are the new giants, when they lose they feed you that.
Squeaking by Argentina, tough times ahead for the number 1 side in the world 😅
No longer no 1....were a fine outfit ...not any more , but gave us some great days....failed to score in 2nd half.
The same Argentina who beat SA and NZ this year? Cool 👍
@@Cpchurch87and Australia.
@@tinkler4 put nearly 70 past them. Argentina are a solid side
Number 3 side...
Ireland going downhill. Without doubt.
How, are you suggesting argentina are not a good side?
@@x-latetv-x6816 they are a good side. That has nothing to do with my comment.
Shane arrogance and denial of the ageing Irish team who has been figured out, hes lack of respect for the black jersey. This kind of entitlement is not going to win you no world cup
Those were the errors that gave Ireland a victory in Durban...Definitely double standards against Springboks they were apparently great...Wow and they supposed to be experts... A real joke of opinions 😢
Oohh Matt Williams and the crew. Ireland played even worst than the previous weekend!?
Hard man.Give the Pumas some credit.😊
nice Xmas gift from the ref
No score in 2nd half, lineout problems ... yellow cards , penalty count , going for a corner when points there for the taking....come on fellas get a grip!
Well done lads. Alot done in a week alot more to go. Country is still behind you. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
From #1 and beating sa to this and the disbelief is obvious, stay humble I know ireland peek too early but three years out is taking the piss
Puma will beat Ireland at home eventually. They're tough and don't care about reputation or location. AB's know well.
Definitely a blip from the back to back world champions
Feels like a loss for Ireland
Argentina tackled like men possesed .One of their best games ever.
Argentina are world class team. Show some respect. Ireland need more youth into squad started to show their age.
Sould have been another yellow for offside - Ireland look rubbish
Argentina were missing quite a number of players too. Los Puma doesn’t quite have the depth of many top teams but their top 25-28 players compete at a very high level and the French based boys and Kremer were out
Referee was sh1t lets be honest here Declan thinks its all about him..
Argentina came back well in the 2nd half. Lucky win for Ireland they were under the pump proper.
Robbery
😢😢😢😢😢 🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼 it was the ref we were robbed 😂😂😂😂
@MrJonnyd81 take your baby bottle and go cry next to your empty trophy cabinet
Argentina stayed in the fight in the first half, kicked their penalties very similar to NZ but gave Ireland lots of opportunities because they could not exit. Beating a good Argentina side in form with picking up two yellow cards is not a bad day. Lots to work on regarding the attack.
It always boggles my mind in sports in general that people can't see the writing on the wall for a struggling team like Ireland. Half of that Ireland team needs swapping out for younger blood or just new players. It's not because half of the team have become bad players overnight. The team simply needs fresh minds and legs, NOW!!!!
You can always bring back players after a lengthy break.
Take the points lads ..stop forcing it
Tough game, but top teams win when it counts. Ask SA and the rest... At least there was more than a point in it 😊
Argentina are a very good side, well done Ireland after just one game.
And the award for best actor goes to J. CROWLEY
Ireland falling apart. The All Blacks played the piss out of them.
the amount of Irish haters is astonishing
Get used to it.
There is a lot of respect for Ireland from rugby fans in the SH. Social media is not a representation of sentiment. Everyone I know has huge respect.
Truth is not hate
Try being a ab's supporter.😂😂
Looks like Irelands greet era is petering out. We will see a raft of new players coming in over the next 18 months with a lot of their legends needing to retire
Bad timing on their part as Andy Farrell is on sabbatical with the lions. Who’s going to put this new team together?
Talking about the NZ result in the way they are is just strange. NZ is a phenomenal side that is better than Ireland. Ireland was at their peak winning the series in NZ, NZ were using it as prep to peak for the World Cup, which they were 1 point shy in
Que serios estaban al final los verdes!! Susto se llama!!
Pumas looked physically stronger against the top four teams of the world this year. Even march. Ireland was lucky at the end, pumas won many matches in the last minutes.
How good was Arg defense . That team has come a long way , unlucky at the finish. Wins a win though
Show me where Mack Hansen grounded the ball
Never even got a replay😂😂
Still rusty?
Ireland are in denial its ok your next losses will be big & Ireland will know how NZ feels When We Loose but NZ have been winning over a century Ireland for 7 years got 5 wins & now You will be getting done like before humbleness is not one of Ireland's strengths
These guys are just not accepting the clear drop in standard and if they don't ask the right questions they'll wake up at number 7 next year , that's all they play (rankings) for in international rugby anyways ...
Quarter final experts.
Ireland is starting to crumble... lol. Their ego's cost them the World Cup and now the downward spiral is starting. Prediction: Next WC they won't reach quarters. Well done Argentina, you guys were the better team!!
Discipline didn’t cost you last week.
You had to give away penalties because you were being beaten .
It was either fitness or the loose forwards wearnt up to it!
Ireland not the same team!! Nz and Springboks best teams in the world atm
Pundits not giving credit to NZ last week.NZ kicked short deliberately as they have done to beat SA, bear Irl in line out and scrum. Put pressure in ruck causing penalties. We need to be more inventive and have more intent.
Yup - Irish rugby is boring - has been for a kong time
Why is it Ireland played poorly? How about Argentina played well? This team has beaten both ABs and Springboks this year. They are a good team
Ireland got lucky…the “rub of the ref”.
The guy with the white hair doesn't know anything about rugby
In his head Matt believes that he's a Rugby Genius.
Ireland Rugby is on a decline, their best years are behind them. It will be hard for their media and supporters to accept it, but it's evident for everyone to see.
Ireland needs a few Munster players in there. Too many Ross o Carroll Kelly types.
More broadly the last six games for Ireland are a bit rubbish. Off the back of (another) terrible RWC - you had a 6n win overall - great - but I think it’s loss to England, narrrow win over Scotland (4pts), win and loss to SA (albeit in SA), loss to NZ and narrow win over Argentina. One good game in that last 6.
Ireland is lucky, really lucky 😂
Ireland golden age is over lol
IRELAND ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL. NO DEPTH IN THE IRISH TEAM. *** VERY LUCKY TO WIN THIS GAME!! *** 2 TOP DOGS =SPRINGBOKS AND ALL BLACKS 😊🤗
I fancy Aussie and Fiji vs Ireland
One good team doesn't make a great rugby nation.....the team is getting old and there's no real depth....
Yeah right. This was the best team in the world, last week?😅
The second test in africa broke Ireland rugby. They put to much in it. They are done. Will only recover after 10 years
Ireland clearly on the decline. All their top players are aging and have already peaked unfortunately 📉⬇️.
Southern hemisphere teams are tough to beat. A win is a win. France will probably beat the Kiwis tomorrow and England should see off the Saffas with ease.
Wishful thinking mate
Thought the referee was letting Argentina away with a lot, especially after the early domination from Ireland. The penalty against Lowe should have been an Irish penalty…. The standard of refereeing is not good across the board.
What game were you watching. The ref was bad but both sides .Doris should have been yellow carded at the ruck .Yeah Ireland were very dominant scored 2 tries when the opposition had 14 men .
Those 3 guys are just as bad as the the guys from the breakdown, horrible takes
Argentina was robbed by the final whistle
Ireland are a ageing squad,
Ref saved Ireland 😂
Enjoyable game as a neutral. irelands great start was better - just - than Argentina’s finish. Both sides very poor discipline.
Do you still feel that you are the no. 1 team. I don't think so. You will see the no.1 team and world champions in action later today vs England
Ireland lucky to win....
Ireland will never win a World cup