The History of Adult Entertainment and How Geisha Can Entertain You Today
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Maiko and Geisha can entertain you even today! …But what do they mean by “entertain?”
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0:00 Let's START!
0:58 1. The "Yu-yjo" & "Yu-kaku"
4:08 2. The Geishas and prostitutes
5:29 3. The Geishas' job today
6:16 Today's conclusion
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Honestly this makes Demon Slayer's newest arc a lot more understandable. I was honestly wondering how he thought they were gonna get away with crossdressing three boys for that.
To be fair, Inosuke was at least somewhat convincing, at least at a glance (x
Don't spoil !!
@@ARGssszzz That was in the manga 😅
@@RenHeng_canon they probably didn't read manga bro
@@ARGssszzz its in s2
Also, there's one thing that Shogo didn't mention, but I think should be said:
One thing you mustn't do is harass the Geishas for a selfie or take photos of them without their permission. Doing so is extremely rude and disrespectful and may make them upset or late. In fact, in Kyoto, you can even be fined for it.
In kabukicho, Ya might even get beat for it.. Especially if there are Yakuzas and Hells angel bikers around, they are probably watching out for them
Thank you for saying this. I was horrified when I read tourists were harassing Geisha for selfies! So rude.
im sorry but this is something you should not do with anyone - im not a geisha but if you harass me for a selfie or just take photos of me without permission you are pissing me off too ^^"
@@Asakku That is one of the reason all Japanese phone do not have a silent camera sound feature, especially iPhone
@@LyndaMarie929 Japanese tourists. I was in Kyoto a few years back and staying in Gion and I saw a few Geisha and/or Maki on the streets and it was the Japanese who stopped them for photos.
In all seriousness, I'm quite impressed with how organized things were in it's hayday and how the prostitutes managed to get such high social standing, specially in comparison to the rest of the world.
Yea jp simping since time inmemorials.
European courtesans had more power than some kings.
Yeah.. the west came in and fucked everything up as always.
@password 12 court prostitutes in a sence. Or social company butterflies for nobles and high ranking people. Yes this could lead to horisontal wrestling but it was also a this lady will talk to you for the 3 hour ball kind of thing depending on lady and situation and yes they also had the ability to say no depending on situation.
Like apllianariya said some had more power than smaller kingdoms kings thanks to their social connections. Last but not least with a culture so ingrained with premade marriages as european nobility was at the time courtisans was an out and allowing people to loosen up.
@password 12, Courtesans are prostitutes that serve the extremely wealthy and powerful. Royalty, aristocracy, business tycoons, prime ministers and other political figures. They were not hired as one-night stands, but were often kept as exclusive "companions" for months or years at a time. They sometimes became extremely wealthy in cash, jewels, lands, houses, and high-end horses. Courtesans knew the secrets of nations and were trusted confidantes. They often came from very humble beginnings but if they were wise with their business dealings, some could become dazzlingly wealthy and some were known to establish charities and endowments in their declining years. Many were not wise in their business dealings and died penniless and lonely when their beauty faded and no one wanted them anymore.
It never crossed my mind that geisha were potentially prostitutes.
Always thought they were a representation of proper beauty and status. Interesting...Shogo informs again!
It's a common myth/misconceptions/rumour/thing people think
@@spudsbuchlaw Except it isn't... because Shogo literally explains how Geishas (some) WERE prostitutes.
@@darrelsteinberg4127 the misconception is the Geisha=Prostitute though, which isnt true
I mean did you really believe men would go there just to had a tea served to them?
@@kattodoggo3868 Especially when they had tea servers in their own fortresses/castles? And musicians? haha
Like Shogo explained. Geishas were lower position than the yu-jyos, then they became part-time yu-jyoslater on, then they became the wholesome cultural icon they are now.
Not a complicated idea; they WERE yu-jyos, they aren't now. Not sure why people like Spuds doesn't want to accept historical fact. It doesn't detract from how great geishas are now.
Thank goodness for people like Shogo who give us great historical information. I had one professor who used Memoirs of a Geisha as one of his core information for geisha culture but also for Japanese customs. Half of his class dropped his East Asian Studies class by the end of the semester. And he was madddd creepy toward Asian students - boys and girls.
That is really disturbing. I hope he doesn't teach anymore.
Memoirs of a Geisha wasn't even written by a former geisha. I can't believe this happened! 😖
@@sarahrowe9661 its was based in the life of a geisha and then she was very upset because as she said the author invented a lot of thinks. Then she wrote own book about her actual life as a geisha.
@@Ssaidak Oh my goodness, really?! Would you happen to know the title? Also, thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it!!
I did’t know that Yoshiwara so big in golden age
Thank you very much for leaving a comment!
Yes, it was a huge district!
@@LetsaskShogo Hahahaha!!😅
Gintama lol
Also, a Geisha apprentice is called Maiko, they can be distinguished from the geishas by their style of kimono known as hikizuri and unique hairstyle with its kanzashi (traditional hair ornament).
I like how in 19th century Japan the Oirans were in control and could decide with which customers they wanted to sleep with and that they could even dismiss those they didn’t like
Oirans were basically gone by the 19th century. This high class prostitution didnt last long in Edo and Osaka. In Kyoto it lasted until WW2 though
And like a Wild West Madams, they hold incredible political power, even if only locally.
They are basically concubines
@@aanyasrivastava9652 That's different, a concubine still has a level of authority in an imperial court. Concubines are more than just bed warmers. Most of the time, they are of noble descent and acts as a link for their noble house into the imperial family. They don't just sleep with anyone, lest they want their entire clan to be purged by the imperial court. Another pupose of a concubine ks to ensure that there are enough lineages for the empire.
Prostitutes are service providers, unlike Concubines who are more of a political tool.
Thats basic consent rights.
funny thing in ancient iran with had women who's job was dancing and entertaining the guest in wine houses, we call them in farsi "saghi" unfortunately no one knows about there culture due to government ban
Probably a lot like elite courtesan culture in various countries with higher culture, like geisha culture in Japan.
your username and profile pic combo is quite terrifying
Good. Degrading towards their honor as women.
Well with asia and africa 1000+ written history, will be weird if it isn't one
@@user-oo6vr1ky5f learning history so it wont repeat itself. Honestly, my fellow woman, can you really say you are already honored in iran?
Geishas are so feminine. I want to wear their beautiful clothing 😍😍😍
Thanks for the video.
So much knowledge
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Me: "So were Geisha prostitutes?"
Shogo: "Well yes, but actually no!"
Such an informative video. I remember from the "memoirs of a geisha" movie that their goal was to get a "danna". Could you develop more on that matter please? I enjoy your videos very much.
Danna is an old fashioned word for husband. A danna as far as a geisha is concerned is a wealthy patron who could pay for things like kimono, lesson fees, and the costs associated with putting on dance recitals. He might also pay for their living expenses.
Memoirs of a Geisha are from the ugly in-between times after the meiji Restauration and WW2 when many geishas were prostitutes to survive. Bjt still high class prostitution only with familiar guests
@@edienandy Basically a sugar daddy? But not necessarily older?
@@rocelderamos3013 I can’t really say. “Sugar daddy” to me implies that there’s a sexual relationship involved and I really don’t know if geisha had that kind of relationship with their danna. They’re very tight lipped about that kind of thing even when talking about the past.
@@edienandy aw come on, of course it's sexual, it's how this kind of thing always went down no matter what time or what culture it is.
Thank you,
I read memoirs of a geisha as a teenager and this video really brought me back and enriched the surreal experience
If you want to read the real book by a former Gion geiko (geisha), read Mineko Iwasaki's "Geisha: A Life" (or it might be titled something else depending on where your from). She gives the real story, not some bad fantasy version like MoaG.
Memoirs was an orientalism, a perversion of japanese culture made up to fit western stereotypes about Japan.
@@kittyelgato4246 I saw some of these sentiments online. How's this the case?
@@Melki It's not accurate and the man who wrote it twisted the story to be more sexy and filled with his lack of understanding of a culture and profession.
He interviewed a real geisha named Mineko Iwasaki, and turned her story to his narrative, and any details she did not provide, he made up with things he assumed were what geisha did.
@@kittyelgato4246 Almost no non-Japanese gives a historically correct explanation of Japanese history... even people in this comment section are still spreading incorrect facts, despite what Shogo, a Japanese person studying this stuff, explains.
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I thought Geishas were show girls, like girls in dance numbers and what they did on their off time was a different from their Geisha time.
Nope, I know that alot of girls before were sold to geisha house from black market, or poor family send their female children to become geisha for money
Sort of. They’re more like really traditional hostesses. An evening with a geisha is usually an hour or two. They’ll make conversation and pour drinks. Then they’ll perform a dance or two. Then it’s drinking games. Then it’s over.
@@edienandy That's the modern geisha, the geisha role changed many times throughout history. As Shogo explains.
Becoming a geisha is almost like a nun. They have to be a virgin with waist length hair and no younger or older than 17-21. The house owns you and you live there. You have to be devoted to the life. One of the things they do is sleep on wooden blocks to prevent messing up their hair. Their hair takes 3 hours to do and they get it redone every week. The process to become one and live like one is very strict. If you want to marry, that means you are retiring.
@@coffeepandacat at least don't call them nuns. I do respect them but please spirituality is not entertainment
I love the fact the Oiran charged by the minute
this was beautiful. 26 years of living i never knew what was what. SO insightful. Thank God you exist lol
Very nice video - it clarified a lot!! Again, you should definitely have been the consultant for Geisha movies ❤️
Informative and entertaining video, thank-you. Your content is very high quality, you should reach 100K subscribers soon. I really like that you give us conclusions at the end.
Totally amazing video of the history of geisha of Japan in past and today too. Fantastic job
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me too
This was so interesting and educational!
Thank you so much for making this video..i am currently trying to write a thesis on Geishas and this helps me a lot
Very well explained, especially if you know and understand the partial origins of kimono.
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Your video are clear and so interesting well done! Now I have to watch again the movie “Memoirs Geisha”
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Very, very interesting. Thank you for the information.
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That was very insightful. Thank you
Thank you for the detailed video.
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This is fascinating.More please
This was a very interesting topic and helped me also to fix a problem w a book I'm writing. So yay ^^
Thanks for the informative video. I was under the impression that pre-Meiji period Geisha's were something akin to a high-class escort or entertainer. This video helped to fill in some gaps in my knowledge.
This is knowledgeable for me since I'm watching Demon Slayer Intertainment District Arc to know what Did they all having segges and what costs for Warabihime Oiran
Such an amazing teacher, I learn like a ton and this is my first video
It is like saying "An escort is just a company for you chat with".
Yeaah, I believe all escorts online only provide nothing but a conversation.
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Beautiful culture, thank you for explaining and teaching.
Thank you, perfectly explained and given historical context.
Thank you so much for your video. I lives in Japan before and was used to see a Geisha time to time. Last time I saw 👀 Geisha was not in Japan but in an Arabic Country in Oman 🇴🇲 there was 3 Geishas two Japanese’s and one Western but also in full Geisha garments. They were walking in the Arabic market called Souq. Everyone stoped to take pictures with them. I was surprised to see them there in full Geisha garments. I think I made Pikachu faces looking at them meanwhile everyone was so delighted with their presence also they looked at me with Pikachu faces like hmmmm I guess this one is trying to understand what da heck we are doing g here in full geisha garments. Well I walked away because I was not surprised with their presence it’s been 3 years now and I’m still asking myself what da heck was 3 Geishas walking into a Arabic Souq ?! 😂 ❤️
omg i finaly found more information about geisha and oiran all thx to u man
Great video!
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Thanks for video.
Thanks for clearing up this often confused subject
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The Geisha is an interesting topic tbh. I first know them from 'Memoirs of a Geisha' by Arthur Golden, its a very interesting book that illustrate the life of geisha in 1940'. One things that you dont say in your video but talked about in memoirs of geisha is of Geisha's Patrons where the geisha can have adult fun time with the patrons. I dont know if its true or not.
Can you make a video reviewing 'Memoirs of a Geisha'? Because its a very interesting book regarding japanese culture and i want to hear your opinion about it.
The book is a fun piece of fiction but please do not use it as a construct to understand Japanese culture. Arthur Golden violated his confidentiality agreement with Mineko Iwasaki and was sued for plaigerizing her life story with defamatory inaccuracies. Please read her autobiography instead to learn more.
@@NasikaSakura so... Its a bad book?
@@cefrinaldi8060 That's for you to decide.
so it was based on a book? a while ago I watched the movie titled the same thing. it's an interesting life story
That book is fiction and its inaccurate and westernized.
Wow that was an amazing lesson
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On my trips to Kyoto I walked along length of "Bojo Dori" in Shimabara, at first, just because "Bojo" matched the screen named I've been using for decades. But it turns out there are many historical old buildings, history museums, and shrines and temples along this route.
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Your absolutely amazing and doing a great service to share the knowledge of Japanese Culture as well as everything surrounding it! I found you randomly 3 days ago and have started watching every episode you have put out to learn so much of what I love....Japanese Culture! So thank you!
Wao I being searching for Keisha kisha I knew I was close now your the only one to confirm is geisha! Thank you. Not even google was close I was wondering if this term was band now I got more that I was looking for!!!
Very informative.
It always staggers me how well the Japanese culture is preserved and given place in today's world ... I'm sure, just like every country, the problems are many and varied. But Japan seems to manage to retain so much more of their original self than any other modernised culture I've seen.
It helps that Japan was an island and probably one of last countries to connect to the Western world. With US occupying Japan after WW2, many of which was changed like the language, culture, religion, even adding in the culture to burn the corpse to dust.
Thank you for what you do 😊.
Wow, that really made me understand the geisha's profession more. I hope to attend an event or something where they have geisha's one day, i think that would be cool. :D
This is absolutely fascinating. I can't think of any other culture that institutionalized and created a social hagiarchy like this.
waaaa, arigatou, i had the false idea that they where prostitutes but their purpose sounds way more interesting and safe.
i got kinda sad when i saw Robin (one piece) in that position. but now that it is cleared up the position do sound like Robin, keeping culture and entretaining.
i also had the idea that kunoichis could use a geisha position to spy on the enemy. Could you please clarify?
Thank you so much for always leaving a comment!
Yes, the "Yu-jyo (especially Oiran)" needed to be educated and trained in calligraphy, music, dance etc. in order to become one, so they were admired both from men and women in Japan!
That's a very interesting question... I haven't read any studies about the "Kunoichi" becoming a geisha, but it's something that could of happened!
I'll keep on studying and will keep you updated!
@@LetsaskShogo thank you so much for the info, always happy to learn something new
Geisha is just those who make music and entertainments, so yeah not prostitutes according to this vid
Glad that change happened :) standing wise Japan's history always fun to learn things
Hi Shogo! Thanks you for the interesting video - I have a question though! I've read before that geiko were originally men, and their role gradually transferred to women over time. Is this true, and if so could you enlighten us as to when this happened and why? Thanks again for a thoughtful and insightful video!
Interesting UA-cam channel you have a new subscriber
Thank you very much for this video! I am a big fan of Geisha Culture, and still have only so much information available about it in my country; this makes me happy to see. I do have a question though that I guess expands on Geisha and Yu-Kaku history. I read in a non-fiction novel about the Yu-Jyo ndustry that there were a precursor to the first Female Geisha called: “Taikomochi” or “Drum Bearers,” Male entertainers who were closer to Court Jesters in the West, telling jokes, making guests laugh, etc. but I’ve found little information on Taikomochi aside from that one book. Were they genuinely part of the industry before Geisha became popular?
Very interesting!!!
So this is basically the old form of host club.. Huh... 😆
Hey Shogo, been watching your videos for quite awhile now and thanks for all the content. I learned alot about your culture.
Just thought, can you cover something from the anime Demon Slayer since it's somewhat corelated to samurais/swordsmen and their timeline is from classic japanese era? Not sure if you are into it but I love the anime and thought maybe you could do a reaction video or whatnot.
When u realized that Daki from kny season 2 is actually an oiran ._.
Thank you Shogo
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hello thank you for an informative video
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I don't understand why noone is ever talking about what geishas were before. Male geisha, taikomochi, entertainers and advisors.
its because of demon slayer season 2 that its gotten in everyones recommended
@@bootyslayer2127 havent seen that yet, what do you mean?
It's because almost no non-Japanese actually knows anything about Japanese history and it's just two groups of people with conflicting understandings saying incorrect things to each other.
Because they don't want to accept that Japan has a very nuanced and complicated history.
@@darrelsteinberg4127 well, it's difficult to get to the correct informations on the internet. Especially about Japan there are plenty of missinformations flying around. For any outsider it's difficult to judge those with a critical eye when almost everything we know about Japan is highly romantised.
@@materla4102 It's really bad too, because there's misinformation from both ends romantizing it in opposite ways. Like, Japan has a complicated history but no one wants to accept that it did.
I think Memoirs of a Geisha seemed to make people think all Geisha are prostitutes
Fantastic
This video has made my respect toward the Geishas increase significantly..and to continue your Movie review of The Last Samurai, how about a review on the Memoirs of a Geisha
Memoirs of a Geisha while pretty, is extremely inaccurate and was actually damaging to the real geisha profession
Very interesting.
Finally someone clear explain this :)
Yukkaku ? Yoshiwara ? Yeah. I know. I even know two oiran : Warabihime and Koinatsu.
The first thing i thought is: Demon Slayer and looks like i'm not the only one.
Man I wish I could've had a chance for a Geisha teach me
There are a lot of documentaries in UA-cam that show the duties of a Geisha (the modern ones). They are very polite, and have a lot of abilities, just like our modern female artists (actresses, singers, painters, etc), but related to traditional Japanese culture.
fascinating
Fascinating
Your description of the geishas today reminds me of the Tokugawa Ooku for some reason.
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