The best part of Ian coming to the channel is the chemistry he and Scott share. The videos are just so fun to watch because they are clearly enjoying themselves.
According to Mårten Hagström (Meshuggah): "There was this guy called Tim Stevenson. He had a forum called Tandjent Forum. He was an old-school fan. Me and Fredrik [Thordendal, Meshuggah guitarist] were really drunk after a show, and we were talking to Tim. Fredrik was trying to explain his guitar tone. Tim asked, 'Where do you get that chug from? What is it that makes it so special?' Fredrik said, 'You gotta make it go DJENT! DJENT! DJENT!' He was slurring and spitting all over the place."
This exactly. I’m glad they opened with Meshuggah but probably could have actually got into them a bit because it’s literally >Dimebag embraces solid state and Pantera makes Far Beyond Driven >Machine head exists >Meshuggah comes into being as some kind of groove/thrash/prog/industrial metal god of a band, invents djent, and completely changes all metal that exists after them
@@swarthygiant1463lol no, there's so much more and far more influential bands on so many other subgenres that had far more that shaped metal today, especially since a vast majority of metalheads hate djent with a couple of exceptions like mushuggah and Animals as Leaders. Hell the few 90's death metal bamds that made it and Nu Metal had wayyyy bigger impacts of metal than all of Djent combined.
@@jasonlauritsen5587I’m talking about the evolution of djent not metal as a whole. This video is on djent specifically they could have lingered on meshuggah longer
@@jasonlauritsen5587metalhead, here, that grew up on Cannibal Corpse. I wouldn't say most metalheads hate djent. It does find it's way into a lot of metal subgenres. I, personally, love all metal and I definitely enjoy the djent grooves.
It's awesome that you're covering this genre. There are some amazingly talented musicians across this growing genre. Really great to see Simon get some love, too. Thank you for this.
By a funny coincidence couple of weeks ago there finally appear the definitive CAFO bass cover, on a proper 8 string bass, with extreme tapping and everything.
I am happy you chose Umanski, his work in intervals blows my mind with how fun, crazy, and melodic it can be. All of his techniques just seem effortless. His bass playthrough for 5HTP shows it
if you like Clay Gober's playing you NEED to check out Antecedent by the Omnific, it's two bass player's and a drummer with a guest solo by Clay on the track
@@trebmto me the Bongo will always be their tone, but it’s cool because I see a lot Toby uses his dingwall whereas Matt will use the Bongo, also Matt is a huge fan of John Myung so that makes sense that he loves his Bongo
@@fnarglerI honestly think they look so stupid, but only when it's just a picture of the bass. The moment someone is holding/playing it, it looks sick
You‘re absolutely right, Dingwall and Darkglass are the goto Equipment for such a modern sound. But there is so much more that you can do with a Dingwall, just listen to Leland Sklar. As a Dingwall owner I must say these instruments are very very special and of the highest quality.
Dingwall and Darkglass is the biggest bandwagon in recent years when it comes to gear. Yes you can do various things with them but the sad thing is the majority don't...
I've never been more proud of my generation of musicians. I remember all the old heads hating on modern music as the mainstream was moving away from punk and grunge into nu metal and eventually metalcore. "It's all trash," "they have no skill," blah blah blah. Fast forward to today, and you have bands like Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Polyphia, Intervals & Plini who are some of my favorite bands of all time, and what they're able to do with their instruments just blows away what people thought was even possible 20-30 years ago.
Great to see Clay on here. I feel like he sometimes gets overshadowed by the guitarists in Polyphia. Not saying they aren’t amazing but Clay just blows my mind
The genre name is indeed a reference to the sound of the palm muting. A band that could be considered pre Djent is SiKth. Amazing English band. James Leech is a monster bassist
I'm pretty sure lots of the older Djent guys like Misha Mansoor have mentioned being super into Sikth and Sikths music being shared all over on forums back in the day. Personally I'd say Sikth were more proto Djent than even Meshuggah in the early 2000s
The technique goes way back, probably even before the jazz era, the real difference is that they used it in short passages, or just one instrument in a verse or chorus... often for not having percussion instruments, so like an all guitar quartet or the like, but using it throughout the song with both guitars and bass all djenting pretty much the whole time came with the fast power metal verities. And well if they didn't you would just get mud, and djenting puts empty space between notes you wouldn't get at those speeds. Everyone used to say, and many still do, that Eddie Van Halen "Invented" tapping, but Stanley Jordan was doing it when eddy was in diapers, and plenty of others including Hendrix used a few taps here and there, but more to add notes to a chord you just couldn't reach any other way. There's a grainy old BW film of some Italian guy in the 20's playing most of his music tapping with both hands, and only using other styles sparingly to break up the monotony, and daaaang do his fingers fly!
@metalheadblues aye meshuggah were the biggest influence on the chug sound of djent and syncopation, but sixth were the influence on the widdlier riffs and stranger chords and tonalities of bands like Periphery
Having watched Scott's videos since 2014 when it was just him doing jazz videos, this is such a change. I don't doubt that Scott's true love is jazz, but it's great to see him diversify into other genres these days despite it not being his "thing".
"Djent is not a genre." - Periphery 🤣🤘 Djent, in all honesty, did start out as a joke name. Really, these bands were trying to play Progressive Metal, and that's what they did and still do. Periphery is the perfect example. Heavy riffs and jazz sax solos? Hell yes.
I listened to an interview with Simon Grove a while back. Not only is he the bassist for Plini, but he produces Plini's albums (as well as many other bands in the genre). He also has a very realistic sounding virtual bass instrument from Submission Audio. A very talented and interesting person.
Strange but true. You know who has a signature Dingwall? Leland Sklar. Perhaps the furthest from djent of any human. It's a testament to how good the build is, no matter what you're doing with it.
Great video! The intro and outro showing Meshuggah pushes me to kindly request something: what about a video on Dick Lövgren, and his sick bass lines! He is such a beast, so technical and accurate, and sooo relaxed even when playing crazy lines. He is also jazz musician. His contributions to Meshuggah song writing are from another planet. Bassists community doesn't give him enough justice... One of my basses is permanently tuned to practise his lines. I am learning so much thanks to him.
Haha, I found a tiny (bit more than a matchbox) pedal called a Djent. I bought it because i figured it to be the best pocket fidget thing ive seen. And now you introduce me to this incredible genre of music. So much to learn and thank you.
I think doing a video on Fieldy from Korn would be a great one! I've heard some people rag on him but his percussive element adds so much to the bands' sound.
Totally agree! I came up in the new metal era and say what you eant about Fieldy, but his style was heavly imitaded by ALOT of bands of that era. Super underrated imo.
I've been a fan of the channel for a long time, and have gained a TON of value over the years just listening to you talk Bass, but this has to be one of my absolutely favorite episodes of all time!!! 🤘😝🤘
So happy to see a bit of more "extreme" Metal on the channel! This is awesome!!! And even happier to see you jam and nod your head to it! Hope one day you'll showcase some of the great technical Death Metal bassists, some are just outrageously good such as: Steve Di Giorgio, Dominic "Forest" Lapointe, Jared Smith, Colin Marston, Sean Malone, we could even include Alex Webster on this list. Keep the great work guys, your videos are amazing and your joy so communicative! Edit: start with Aninmals As Leaders, who don't have a bassist, still finding it good, great way to keep an open mind! :)
I think you're right in that Clay is essentially using a double-thumbing technique with a pick / hybrid picking. Scott / Tim use double-thumbing (thumping) all the time, so Clay would need a way to do that technique when doubling the parts, but with a pick.
I always thought “Djent” was an onomatopoeia as you said Ian. My fave player has gotta be Eugene Abdukhanov from Jinjer. Absolute monster player, tone, groove, chords, melody, tapping…. The works.
The word "djent" became popular in the 2010s to describe the sound of palm muting on a guitar where you would choke up on the strings (about an inch towards the neck from where you would normally palm mute). For bassists "djent" is basically Dingwall + Darkglass distortion lol.
Saw Amos live with tesseract a few months ago. He played the whole show on a dingwall and mostly with a pick. Not what I expected but still a stellar show
That first video of Nolly literally changed my life. That tone blew my mind when I first heard it and I've been chasing it ever since. I can't afford a Dingwall but I think I've found a great tone of my own with what I have. I use a Darkglass Harmonic Booster into a SansAmp and then into a Darkglass Photon. It gives me a ton of clarity and it's so heavy.
I never realized this until now, but I think Peter Steele from Type O sortof did a precursor of Djent in the way he played, especially live, and with his distorted bass often taking the role of the rhythm guitar (which essentially comes down to down tuning an octave). A very percussive, groovy, powerful, whipping style of guitar picking on bass in a rock/metal setting. Can't point to a specific song off top, but Type O fans will know what I mean I think.
As an NG3 owner, dingwall +darkglass or neural parallax x are the go-tos for this sound. Parallax and X have custom presets for Umansky, Toby Peterson-Stewart (The Omnific) Nolly, and Killian Duarte. Dingwall has basses with darkglass tone capsules with their active preamps. Combine all of this with their stainless steel strings and i can tell you first hand that the pieces fit perfectly together, the entire puzzle fits soooo well. Dingwall's craftsmanship is unlike anything ive ever seen, felt or played. Their multiscale was engineered for tuning low and playing low without the buzz or noise you would get on a similar multiscale instrument. You cant feel any sort of fret sprout, no fretboard seams, right out of the case it needed no set up. Intonation was spot on. Action was dialed in. All i had to do was plug it in and rip it. Easily hands down best bass ive ever played in my 20 years of bass. Its unlike anything ive ever played before. Sorry if this came off across as an ad for Dingwall but its now a daily driver of mine and its soooooooo good to play.
Simon Grove is an absolute beast. Saw Plini with him last week and can confirm he was playing the Le Fey. His sound and groove is amazing. As much as I love Plini (being a guitarist primarily), Simon's playing is the most impressive part of seeing Plini live to me.
Those Lollar T-bird pickups are some of the punchiest growliest pickups ever! I played a Strandberg California with Lollar T-bird pickups two or three years ago and my jaw was glued to the floor the whole time. I was this 🤏close to clearing out my tiny student bank account and buying that bass right there and then, but fortunately I had a friend with me who managed convince me that food and rent goes before buying a new bass.
Thanks so much for doing this video, guys! I don't often venture into this particular neck of the musical woods, but you took me straight to the fun part :) So much new music and cool players to check out. Cheers!
Great video, it's nice to see all these great players being mentioned! Now you got to talk about the Omnific, two great bass players with a drummer for one of the hardest djent bands there is 🤘
What I'd like to applaud is you guys is stepping away from what is familiar to you and actually learning new stuff. I thought Nolly is just a freak you show to your jazz-blues-funk oriented audience and here you are with modern metal bass chops harnessed
I remember when I was a kid and a beginner at guitar, I came up with the hybrid picking technique. I think I even called it hybrid. I just could never play the technique well. Fast forward about a week after I came up with the concept, I was on UA-cam at the public library looking at videos and came across someone doing the technique and was blown away. I was kind of bummed that the technique already existed, but floored at the possibilities it opens up as a musician. 25+ years later, still can't hybrid pick to save my life, but I think i'll give another go at practice with it once I get my bass and guitar repaired next week.
I was there for the djent scene while it was happening, and while I’m pretty over it, you just can’t deny how sick those damn grooves are! Even though it’s a little overdone, the sound made an overall pretty cool impact on heavy music on the whole!
I'm glad these new bassists are getting the recognition they deserve! I learned so much from these guys that I love incorporating into my own music! #newera
I've been listening to Grorr in the early 'tens, never thinking about them as "Djent". To me it "just" was a progressive rock/metal band using the aggressiveness and somewhat style of Korn, but also being much more melodic and intricate, like classic progressive rock bands from the 70's on, throughout the decades until now. Great video, absolutely loving it! And, yes, Allison is killing it with that T-Bird-Jazz-Bass thingie. Absolutely nailing the sound.
Great Video! Of course Meshuggah is in there lol, but I wish you spoke more about their bass tone. Up until their last record, Dick would always tune his E string up to F. With the 8 strings tuned down to F, the bass and guitars are playing in the same octave. I always thought this was huge for their sound. The bass sound was always so metallic and cut so hard.
There are some incredibly talented musicians in djent. It's like prog rock and jazz combined. So many techniques all rolled into one genre or even the same song. My primary bass is a Modulus Graphite Quantum QSPi 6-string, which has a 35" scale, which is long enough for a clear tone on an open B. In one of my projects my tuning started out BEADGC, but by year 5 or 6 my tuning had changed to ADADGC, so it was essentially Drop A + Drop D over standard tuning.
Thanks guys another great video ! Some wicked playing going on ! House subsidence insurance questionnaires will now include a 'Djent bass player resident inclusion clause' !
Another phenomenal bassist in the genre is Jared smith of archspire, very similar to Jacob umanski, I think he started as a guitarist before joining the band but pickup up finger style and mastered it, the other guitartists say he’s the best guitarist in the band lol
Awesome video. Alot of dudes I haven't heard of,, I'm a bit of a tourist in this genre. Djent is meshuggah to me at its core I hear it as anti groove. Turning simple rythems on their head. Twisting the intuitive way we think of groove. Like a 3d eye puzzle for the brain. Possibly to be seen as reinventing groove in the future, to be hopeful.
I think you guys touched on it... djent is the new 80's fusion. Now, like then, it means so many different things! Plini is so very different from Periphery. One of my favorites was Adam Swan in Monuments ("The Amanuensis" is such a jaw dropping album!). To be honest, the bulk of the djent I listen to (and maybe the bulk of the music I listen to... period) is Animals As Leaders. While AAL doesn't have a "bass player", their bass lines can be WONDERFUL! It took me years... literally years... but I eventually learned how to slap the main riff to "Physical Education" and to this day it is one of my favorite grooves. When I think of djent my first thought is AAL, and from there I have heard many, almost all quite good, but AAL is what I listen to... almost every day. This is likely my inherent musical snobbery, as I haven't heard much, if any, other music in the last 10 years that reachers the level they have. And that, right there, tells you everything you need to know about my musical tastes! BUT.... even this old dog can learn new tricks... I do hear new things that entice the ear and get the creative juices flowing. Karnivool... I'm looking/listening at you. Opeth...OMG Opeth... where have you been all my life, and why am I just finding you now? I find quite a lot of crossover between some djent and prog metal, and clearly I blur the lines between the two, and there are clearly bands that can, and do, do both. Anyway... my brain has too many bass lines coursing through it right now. I need to stop and enjoy them.
Warwick basses are also great for that djent sound. I own two Dingwall basses and I also own a Warwick. Slightly different attack, but highly effective from both brands of bass. Darkglass amps really push the djenty sound, or a Darkglass Microtubes pedal through a punchy but warm amp like an Ampeg would also give you that wicked sound. Great video...
I dropped my dingwall to GCGCF and didn’t even need to adjust the truss rod it was still perfect, i love my thumb and stingrays and Lakland but I would definitely have had to adjust my truss rod on them basses, the Dingwall is just a different animal
In 2011 it meant exactly what you said. We didn’t have all this music yet lol so truly it still always meant *the noise the guitar makes a song out of*
You had them at the end of video and for me it started with MESHUGGAH. Ah finally there was some metal which is more mathematically complex than playing with an abacus.
I'd love to see you guys do an episode on Interpol. I don't see that style of music on your channel very often, and they have really interesting creative bass lines, especially in songs like Obstacle 1 or The New.
i love how you guys cover all genres, not just the typical blues or jazz bass playing, love the content
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First time see such approach. I`m in love with it hehe
The best part of Ian coming to the channel is the chemistry he and Scott share. The videos are just so fun to watch because they are clearly enjoying themselves.
Appreciate that, it's always great fun talking music with Ian!!
The best part of this channel is they'll touch literally every style of music. No judgment.
@@ifgwelf that’s Djudjgement..🤣🤣🤣
No judjent whatsoever
According to Mårten Hagström (Meshuggah):
"There was this guy called Tim Stevenson. He had a forum called Tandjent Forum. He was an old-school fan. Me and Fredrik [Thordendal, Meshuggah guitarist] were really drunk after a show, and we were talking to Tim. Fredrik was trying to explain his guitar tone. Tim asked, 'Where do you get that chug from? What is it that makes it so special?' Fredrik said, 'You gotta make it go DJENT! DJENT! DJENT!' He was slurring and spitting all over the place."
This exactly. I’m glad they opened with Meshuggah but probably could have actually got into them a bit because it’s literally
>Dimebag embraces solid state and Pantera makes Far Beyond Driven
>Machine head exists
>Meshuggah comes into being as some kind of groove/thrash/prog/industrial metal god of a band, invents djent, and completely changes all metal that exists after them
@@swarthygiant1463lol no, there's so much more and far more influential bands on so many other subgenres that had far more that shaped metal today, especially since a vast majority of metalheads hate djent with a couple of exceptions like mushuggah and Animals as Leaders. Hell the few 90's death metal bamds that made it and Nu Metal had wayyyy bigger impacts of metal than all of Djent combined.
@@jasonlauritsen5587I’m talking about the evolution of djent not metal as a whole. This video is on djent specifically they could have lingered on meshuggah longer
@@jasonlauritsen5587metalhead, here, that grew up on Cannibal Corpse. I wouldn't say most metalheads hate djent. It does find it's way into a lot of metal subgenres. I, personally, love all metal and I definitely enjoy the djent grooves.
This is the comment I was going to type if I didn’t find it.
It's awesome that you're covering this genre. There are some amazingly talented musicians across this growing genre. Really great to see Simon get some love, too. Thank you for this.
Growing genre? It had its peak years ago and is a genre of the 2010s.
Simon is an absolute monster, LOVE his work with Plini!
Someone once asked Amos Williams what he thought of TesseracT being desribed as Djent,
His reply...
"I dunno, it's better than being called a c*nt."
Man of class.
based Amos
Love how you guys choose Animals As Leaders... the band WITHOUT a bassist! 😂
By a funny coincidence couple of weeks ago there finally appear the definitive CAFO bass cover, on a proper 8 string bass, with extreme tapping and everything.
They do have bass tracks, recorded by, you never guessed it, nolly!
There's bass on the records and backing tracks. Nolly did most of it I think
I love AAL but they're not Djent... There's way better examples than them
@@vichaon yes they fucking are djent lol
I am happy you chose Umanski, his work in intervals blows my mind with how fun, crazy, and melodic it can be. All of his techniques just seem effortless. His bass playthrough for 5HTP shows it
if you like Clay Gober's playing you NEED to check out Antecedent by the Omnific, it's two bass player's and a drummer with a guest solo by Clay on the track
This is the comment I came to make! Long live the Bongo!
@@trebmto me the Bongo will always be their tone, but it’s cool because I see a lot Toby uses his dingwall whereas Matt will use the Bongo, also Matt is a huge fan of John Myung so that makes sense that he loves his Bongo
@@trebmbig bongo fan here. They're super underrated. Probably on account of their controversial design.
@@fnarglerI honestly think they look so stupid, but only when it's just a picture of the bass. The moment someone is holding/playing it, it looks sick
Clay Gober has one of my favorite sounds/styles in bass. It’s absolutely insane to listen to and fail miserably trying to replicate.
The outro to New Millennium Cyanide Christ is impossible not to want to mosh too. Its so groovy.
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My favourite Meshuggah groove is the opening groove before the pre-verse bass riff kicks in on ‘Humiliative’
You‘re absolutely right, Dingwall and Darkglass are the goto Equipment for such a modern sound. But there is so much more that you can do with a Dingwall, just listen to Leland Sklar. As a Dingwall owner I must say these instruments are very very special and of the highest quality.
I use them for everything from reggae to J-pop to thall lol
Amazing basses
Dingwall and Darkglass is the biggest bandwagon in recent years when it comes to gear. Yes you can do various things with them but the sad thing is the majority don't...
@cd0u50c9 they will be like Tesla's in the near future, f-ing ugly, outdated, and no one will want one.
I've never been more proud of my generation of musicians. I remember all the old heads hating on modern music as the mainstream was moving away from punk and grunge into nu metal and eventually metalcore. "It's all trash," "they have no skill," blah blah blah. Fast forward to today, and you have bands like Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Polyphia, Intervals & Plini who are some of my favorite bands of all time, and what they're able to do with their instruments just blows away what people thought was even possible 20-30 years ago.
So great you guys covered Simon Grove! I've seen him with Plini several times and he's just so impressive.
He's incredible. And on top of his playing, he did (does?) a lot of mixing for Plini's stuff
He does indeed, in fact I believe he co-produced the Mirage EP!
Great to see Clay on here. I feel like he sometimes gets overshadowed by the guitarists in Polyphia. Not saying they aren’t amazing but Clay just blows my mind
The genre name is indeed a reference to the sound of the palm muting. A band that could be considered pre Djent is SiKth. Amazing English band. James Leech is a monster bassist
I'm pretty sure lots of the older Djent guys like Misha Mansoor have mentioned being super into Sikth and Sikths music being shared all over on forums back in the day.
Personally I'd say Sikth were more proto Djent than even Meshuggah in the early 2000s
I would love for SiKth to get some love from these two. Some monster bass lines
The technique goes way back, probably even before the jazz era, the real difference is that they used it in short passages, or just one instrument in a verse or chorus... often for not having percussion instruments, so like an all guitar quartet or the like, but using it throughout the song with both guitars and bass all djenting pretty much the whole time came with the fast power metal verities. And well if they didn't you would just get mud, and djenting puts empty space between notes you wouldn't get at those speeds.
Everyone used to say, and many still do, that Eddie Van Halen "Invented" tapping, but Stanley Jordan was doing it when eddy was in diapers, and plenty of others including Hendrix used a few taps here and there, but more to add notes to a chord you just couldn't reach any other way. There's a grainy old BW film of some Italian guy in the 20's playing most of his music tapping with both hands, and only using other styles sparingly to break up the monotony, and daaaang do his fingers fly!
@@daved2352Meshuggah were djenting in the 90's
@metalheadblues aye meshuggah were the biggest influence on the chug sound of djent and syncopation, but sixth were the influence on the widdlier riffs and stranger chords and tonalities of bands like Periphery
Djent on bass is just so satisfying.
Having watched Scott's videos since 2014 when it was just him doing jazz videos, this is such a change. I don't doubt that Scott's true love is jazz, but it's great to see him diversify into other genres these days despite it not being his "thing".
+1 for the Nolly course. Never heard of this style until then, and it was one of the classes that made me think the most.
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"Djent is not a genre." - Periphery
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Djent, in all honesty, did start out as a joke name. Really, these bands were trying to play Progressive Metal, and that's what they did and still do. Periphery is the perfect example. Heavy riffs and jazz sax solos? Hell yes.
Clay's hybrid picking inspired me to finally practice bass with the pick, and oh boy it's a lot of fun.
I listened to an interview with Simon Grove a while back. Not only is he the bassist for Plini, but he produces Plini's albums (as well as many other bands in the genre). He also has a very realistic sounding virtual bass instrument from Submission Audio. A very talented and interesting person.
Thank you for mentioning this re: Simon. Great bassist and producer
Do you know what song he was playing in that clip? That synthy wah thing was unreal
Strange but true. You know who has a signature Dingwall? Leland Sklar. Perhaps the furthest from djent of any human. It's a testament to how good the build is, no matter what you're doing with it.
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Sad to see Dick Lövgren (Meshuggah's bassist) not mentioned by name. Not the flashiest player but still exteremly good (and underrated).
The line 6 tone is gnarly.
I really like these formats and energy. It makes me pick up my bass while the video plays. Always a good thing.
Great video! The intro and outro showing Meshuggah pushes me to kindly request something: what about a video on Dick Lövgren, and his sick bass lines! He is such a beast, so technical and accurate, and sooo relaxed even when playing crazy lines. He is also jazz musician. His contributions to Meshuggah song writing are from another planet. Bassists community doesn't give him enough justice... One of my basses is permanently tuned to practise his lines. I am learning so much thanks to him.
You know who doesn't get enough love here? Alex Webster; when is his video coming? ;)
I'm still hoping they'll do a video on death metal (or extreme metal in general) and cover Webster and Di Giorgio.
We may well do at some point, both Alex and Steve are absolute titans of metal bass and are incredible players/musicians!
@@devinebass Unfortunately, it's to late to get Sean Malone on board. The guy was from another world.
Djent is definitely an onomatopoeia. When it was created people would debate whether Djent was a Dgenre based on that fact.
Haha, I found a tiny (bit more than a matchbox) pedal called a Djent. I bought it because i figured it to be the best pocket fidget thing ive seen. And now you introduce me to this incredible genre of music. So much to learn and thank you.
I would love to see a Clay Gober bass breakdown! That pick hybrid thing deserves a bass lesson!
Me, a bearded bald bassist watching two bearded bald bassists reacting to bearded bald bassists playing djent
I think doing a video on Fieldy from Korn would be a great one!
I've heard some people rag on him but his percussive element adds so much to the bands' sound.
Totally agree! I came up in the new metal era and say what you eant about Fieldy, but his style was heavly imitaded by ALOT of bands of that era. Super underrated imo.
Extremely fun video! Thank you!
Clay Gober’s solo on GOAT is my new milestone.
lets not forget the master piece that is The Omnific's Antecedent. Clay has a solo on that too and its sooooooooooo good!!!!!
I've always wanted to learn OD
@@xxShadowxx-dy2wo I’ll go check it out. Thanks!!
It’s not too bad, the Goat bass part was one of the first complex basslines I learned.
slapping with a pick is dope. like Hetfield and Claypool had a baby (picture it!!😅)
I've been a fan of the channel for a long time, and have gained a TON of value over the years just listening to you talk Bass, but this has to be one of my absolutely favorite episodes of all time!!! 🤘😝🤘
Much appreciated, glad you enjoyed this one!!
It's interesting seeing you guys look at music that i actually listen to regularly.
So happy to see a bit of more "extreme" Metal on the channel! This is awesome!!! And even happier to see you jam and nod your head to it!
Hope one day you'll showcase some of the great technical Death Metal bassists, some are just outrageously good such as: Steve Di Giorgio, Dominic "Forest" Lapointe, Jared Smith, Colin Marston, Sean Malone, we could even include Alex Webster on this list.
Keep the great work guys, your videos are amazing and your joy so communicative!
Edit: start with Aninmals As Leaders, who don't have a bassist, still finding it good, great way to keep an open mind! :)
I think you're right in that Clay is essentially using a double-thumbing technique with a pick / hybrid picking. Scott / Tim use double-thumbing (thumping) all the time, so Clay would need a way to do that technique when doubling the parts, but with a pick.
I always thought “Djent” was an onomatopoeia as you said Ian.
My fave player has gotta be Eugene Abdukhanov from Jinjer. Absolute monster player, tone, groove, chords, melody, tapping…. The works.
Love the energy, always good vibes
that picture of a PALM tree in the introduction part had me laughing way more than it should have :D
Danny from veil of Maya is another great one
I remember their longtime OG bassist The Higler lmao
dude is crazy with it
The word "djent" became popular in the 2010s to describe the sound of palm muting on a guitar where you would choke up on the strings (about an inch towards the neck from where you would normally palm mute). For bassists "djent" is basically Dingwall + Darkglass distortion lol.
Finally!!! Been waiting to see you guys react to this style 😂
HOT DAMN! Finally someone makes a good video about my favorite genre! Guess I gotta get a Darkglass now 😂
FINALLY!!!!! I’ve been anticipating this!!!!! Dick Lövgren (Meshuggah) is my all time favorite bassist!
clay gober is amazing. polyphia are so talented.
Saw Amos live with tesseract a few months ago. He played the whole show on a dingwall and mostly with a pick. Not what I expected but still a stellar show
That first video of Nolly literally changed my life. That tone blew my mind when I first heard it and I've been chasing it ever since. I can't afford a Dingwall but I think I've found a great tone of my own with what I have. I use a Darkglass Harmonic Booster into a SansAmp and then into a Darkglass Photon. It gives me a ton of clarity and it's so heavy.
Love this channel. Still requesting more of these kind of videos but for modern reggae bassist.
You guys have great chemistry between each other. It's a pleasure to share a laugh and passion for music through the screen with you.
Cheers, appreciate the warm words! Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Thanks for including Simon Grove, and Plini
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I never realized this until now, but I think Peter Steele from Type O sortof did a precursor of Djent in the way he played, especially live, and with his distorted bass often taking the role of the rhythm guitar (which essentially comes down to down tuning an octave). A very percussive, groovy, powerful, whipping style of guitar picking on bass in a rock/metal setting. Can't point to a specific song off top, but Type O fans will know what I mean I think.
I've thoroughly been enjoying the content you guys are creating! Excellent work gents!!
finally Scott is exploring more on the harsher genres, nice!
As an NG3 owner, dingwall +darkglass or neural parallax x are the go-tos for this sound. Parallax and X have custom presets for Umansky, Toby Peterson-Stewart (The Omnific) Nolly, and Killian Duarte. Dingwall has basses with darkglass tone capsules with their active preamps. Combine all of this with their stainless steel strings and i can tell you first hand that the pieces fit perfectly together, the entire puzzle fits soooo well. Dingwall's craftsmanship is unlike anything ive ever seen, felt or played. Their multiscale was engineered for tuning low and playing low without the buzz or noise you would get on a similar multiscale instrument. You cant feel any sort of fret sprout, no fretboard seams, right out of the case it needed no set up. Intonation was spot on. Action was dialed in. All i had to do was plug it in and rip it. Easily hands down best bass ive ever played in my 20 years of bass. Its unlike anything ive ever played before. Sorry if this came off across as an ad for Dingwall but its now a daily driver of mine and its soooooooo good to play.
I've always played that way. I usually use a .73mm tri-tip triangle and play metal. Always play through the string with punch and attitude :)
Please, do a video about "thall" 🙌 Man, I have never thought to watch them talk about this music
Thall is as popular as its ever been and is still so obscure to the masses
Thanks ❤ fantastic show.Well done guys!!
I love that you guys included Nolly's renowned playthrough of "Prayer Position". It's still one of the most searched bass videos on UA-cam.
I am trying that Clay Gober shit man. Thank you guys so much! Love SBL!
17:25 - I'm like that when I watch literally any member of that band. The precision and skills on display are insane.
Simon Grove is an absolute beast. Saw Plini with him last week and can confirm he was playing the Le Fey.
His sound and groove is amazing. As much as I love Plini (being a guitarist primarily), Simon's playing is the most impressive part of seeing Plini live to me.
Those Lollar T-bird pickups are some of the punchiest growliest pickups ever! I played a Strandberg California with Lollar T-bird pickups two or three years ago and my jaw was glued to the floor the whole time. I was this 🤏close to clearing out my tiny student bank account and buying that bass right there and then, but fortunately I had a friend with me who managed convince me that food and rent goes before buying a new bass.
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Thanks so much for doing this video, guys! I don't often venture into this particular neck of the musical woods, but you took me straight to the fun part :) So much new music and cool players to check out. Cheers!
Great video, it's nice to see all these great players being mentioned! Now you got to talk about the Omnific, two great bass players with a drummer for one of the hardest djent bands there is 🤘
You guys should do a video breaking down Clays solo in GOAT. The technique is crazy
What I'd like to applaud is you guys is stepping away from what is familiar to you and actually learning new stuff. I thought Nolly is just a freak you show to your jazz-blues-funk oriented audience and here you are with modern metal bass chops harnessed
It's absolutely an onomatopoeia
When is the Steve DiGiorgio video coming about his time in Death?
Yup! Steve DiGiorgio needs to be discussed as an addendum to this as a different approach within the genre ... Common! Fretless!!!!🤤
They're still waiting for Shannon to school them on some good ol death metal. Need a whole vid on DiGiorgio, Sean Malone, Forest, and Jeroen Paul.
pointed out the right goats of the genre! Hats off!
I remember when I was a kid and a beginner at guitar, I came up with the hybrid picking technique. I think I even called it hybrid. I just could never play the technique well. Fast forward about a week after I came up with the concept, I was on UA-cam at the public library looking at videos and came across someone doing the technique and was blown away.
I was kind of bummed that the technique already existed, but floored at the possibilities it opens up as a musician. 25+ years later, still can't hybrid pick to save my life, but I think i'll give another go at practice with it once I get my bass and guitar repaired next week.
Actually Amos' tone is processed in that multi band way, they're just achieving a different sound with it
I was there for the djent scene while it was happening, and while I’m pretty over it, you just can’t deny how sick those damn grooves are! Even though it’s a little overdone, the sound made an overall pretty cool impact on heavy music on the whole!
I’m so grateful to see new names and new genres in the SBL. That’s the content I’m here for. Subscribe ⭐️
Simon is one of my favorite bass players! He is SOOOOOOOOOOOO soulful in his playing.
💯💯💯 he also has monster recording chops too...and he gets to play with Plini!
I'm glad these new bassists are getting the recognition they deserve! I learned so much from these guys that I love incorporating into my own music! #newera
I've been listening to Grorr in the early 'tens, never thinking about them as "Djent". To me it "just" was a progressive rock/metal band using the aggressiveness and somewhat style of Korn, but also being much more melodic and intricate, like classic progressive rock bands from the 70's on, throughout the decades until now.
Great video, absolutely loving it! And, yes, Allison is killing it with that T-Bird-Jazz-Bass thingie. Absolutely nailing the sound.
the often unsung heroes of these bands. Take the bass out of the mixes and the difference is shocking
FINALLYY!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU GUYS TO AGNOLEDGE CLAY GOBER FOR YEAAARRSSS!!! THANK YOUU!!!
Great Video! Of course Meshuggah is in there lol, but I wish you spoke more about their bass tone. Up until their last record, Dick would always tune his E string up to F. With the 8 strings tuned down to F, the bass and guitars are playing in the same octave. I always thought this was huge for their sound. The bass sound was always so metallic and cut so hard.
There are some incredibly talented musicians in djent. It's like prog rock and jazz combined. So many techniques all rolled into one genre or even the same song.
My primary bass is a Modulus Graphite Quantum QSPi 6-string, which has a 35" scale, which is long enough for a clear tone on an open B. In one of my projects my tuning started out BEADGC, but by year 5 or 6 my tuning had changed to ADADGC, so it was essentially Drop A + Drop D over standard tuning.
Thanks guys another great video ! Some wicked playing going on !
House subsidence insurance questionnaires will now include a 'Djent bass player resident inclusion clause' !
Another phenomenal bassist in the genre is Jared smith of archspire, very similar to Jacob umanski, I think he started as a guitarist before joining the band but pickup up finger style and mastered it, the other guitartists say he’s the best guitarist in the band lol
About time you play some good stuff.
Would love to see you take it even farther, and dip into Thall
Awesome video. Alot of dudes I haven't heard of,, I'm a bit of a tourist in this genre. Djent is meshuggah to me at its core I hear it as anti groove. Turning simple rythems on their head. Twisting the intuitive way we think of groove. Like a 3d eye puzzle for the brain. Possibly to be seen as reinventing groove in the future, to be hopeful.
I think you guys touched on it... djent is the new 80's fusion. Now, like then, it means so many different things! Plini is so very different from Periphery. One of my favorites was Adam Swan in Monuments ("The Amanuensis" is such a jaw dropping album!). To be honest, the bulk of the djent I listen to (and maybe the bulk of the music I listen to... period) is Animals As Leaders. While AAL doesn't have a "bass player", their bass lines can be WONDERFUL! It took me years... literally years... but I eventually learned how to slap the main riff to "Physical Education" and to this day it is one of my favorite grooves. When I think of djent my first thought is AAL, and from there I have heard many, almost all quite good, but AAL is what I listen to... almost every day. This is likely my inherent musical snobbery, as I haven't heard much, if any, other music in the last 10 years that reachers the level they have. And that, right there, tells you everything you need to know about my musical tastes! BUT.... even this old dog can learn new tricks... I do hear new things that entice the ear and get the creative juices flowing. Karnivool... I'm looking/listening at you. Opeth...OMG Opeth... where have you been all my life, and why am I just finding you now? I find quite a lot of crossover between some djent and prog metal, and clearly I blur the lines between the two, and there are clearly bands that can, and do, do both.
Anyway... my brain has too many bass lines coursing through it right now. I need to stop and enjoy them.
I never heard of this genre in my life. Interesting stuff!
Warwick basses are also great for that djent sound. I own two Dingwall basses and I also own a Warwick. Slightly different attack, but highly effective from both brands of bass. Darkglass amps really push the djenty sound, or a Darkglass Microtubes pedal through a punchy but warm amp like an Ampeg would also give you that wicked sound. Great video...
I dropped my dingwall to GCGCF and didn’t even need to adjust the truss rod it was still perfect, i love my thumb and stingrays and Lakland but I would definitely have had to adjust my truss rod on them basses, the Dingwall is just a different animal
Ian Martin Allison likes Animals As Leaders? REARY?!! That band is incredible. Tosin Abosi is a boss
In 2011 it meant exactly what you said. We didn’t have all this music yet lol so truly it still always meant *the noise the guitar makes a song out of*
the ampeg sim inside the Helix that Ian uses is insane. that may be what makes the tone for modern metal tbh
FINALLY Metal is getting some love 🙌🏽🤘🏽
This is really cool, not my wheelhouse at all but very cool to see some people pushing the instrument forward in new and different ways
You had them at the end of video and for me it started with MESHUGGAH. Ah finally there was some metal which is more mathematically complex than playing with an abacus.
I would LOOOOOVE to see an interview with Clay
I'd love to see you guys do an episode on Interpol. I don't see that style of music on your channel very often, and they have really interesting creative bass lines, especially in songs like Obstacle 1 or The New.