If you use a sander with a dust collector port and connect a shop vac, it will suck itself down onto the workpiece which makes a HUGE difference without pushing down on the sander, and they're designed to handle that downward suction force. It also clears the sandpaper better so it lasts longer!
When I started woodworking I used power tools and power sanded everything. I dealt with mountains of sawdust. The noise, constantly wearing dust masks, and being coated like a sugar cookie in saw dust just got old. I changed my approach and now I just mainly use hand tools. Handsaws, hand planes, scrapers, and chisels. I might sand if I am using junky plywood and putty if I am gonna paint a project but that's really it. Now at the end of the day I pretty much only have to sweep up a pile of shavings. My shop is much quieter and I don't have to wear a mask as much. Also the journey creating a piece is far more enjoyable to me now.
I love the idea of using hand tools, but I still find most of them a bit intimidating. I'm trying to warm up to them though... the idea of less dust is a huge plus
@@woodificould I understand completely. It was the same for me. It takes time and practice. I've had many failures that added to my firewood pile. Now it's the opposite for me. I cringe when I turn on a power tool and I feel a lot more confident with a hand plane or handsaw in my hand. Also it's liberating to the mind knowing you can accomplish a task without electricity using your body and hands as the power source. I like the name of your channel.
The motor is not shot. There is a rubber disc with fins on it that is worn out. It's easy to replace and fairly cheap. Take the orbiting disk off you'll see the part im talking about. The fins will be worn or maybe even torn off. At least on the ridgid ones. The cheap afrermarket ones are a little stiff. Put a little elbo grease on the sander and the fins will wear in and it'll behave.
I have found that the problem with the Ridgid sander is the bearing. I found the correct one on Amazon, replaced it and the sander was good as new. No more wild wobbling. I would be interested in more information about this "rubber disc with fins", as I don't recall seeing anything like that when I replaced the bearing. Then again, I wasn't looking for that so maybe I need to take mine apart again and take a look.
@@awlthatwoodcrafts8911If you replaced that bearing it's the large rubber ring around it. My replacement has 590936 c1 >tpu< on it for the r2600 5" model. I did both at the same time so I don't know which one actually fixed it. iirc the bearing I pulled felt ok. The oem rubber piece was trashed the replacement needed a little running in to loosen it up.
This is great, thanks! I've been meaning to open it up and see if I can get it to work again (which is the only reason it didn't get thrown out yet) so this comment gives me a push to actually get around to doing that. I know that this brand has a lifetime warranty, but unfortunately you need proof of purchase from what I understand, and that thing is definitely long gone :/
@@woodificould You have to register it within 90 days of purchase. I have numerous Ridgid tools registered and the oldest is 12 years but have never had to try out the warranty. It's actually not a warranty, it's a Lifetime Service Agreement. They will fix the tool. The batteries are replaced if they quit but have never had one quit at this time.
Hi 👋 , I love your puppy’s 🐶🐶 , Giving Heads Up Instructions 😂, I work for myself, I to have a lot of sanders, 2 of the same size, I setup for sanding one with say 80g and the other with 120g , and yes 2 dust extension, I ❤ my tools, I have one problem now insufficient room,
I've been butchering wood for 50 years and never knew that applying force to a sander would shorten its life. I don't sand shop furniture and most of my other work is planed and scraped, not sanded. I have killed one RO sander, but I assumed I got a lemon. Now I know I abused it. Thank you for sharing.
Happy to help. I will add that I'm a big fan of trying to fix broken things over throwing them out, so I do hope to do that with the broken sander. If I manage to get it going again, I'll definitely share that process
Great tip. I also used to push down on the sanders to get things done faster. If your sanding is too slow, switch to a lower grit. It should only take 1 or 2 passes at each grit before you move up. If you notice you're having to sand the surface 4 or 5 times on a single grit to get the job done, you're using too high a grit. Also hi Waffles!!!
A good quality paper and patience in sanding will always bring the best results. You presented great examples in handling the orbitals, too. Same goes for any sander. Less pressure, more patience...And Waffles has a great comedic writing style, imo. Too cute! 😂
Never gave it much thought beyond more pressure = faster results, luckily haven't done it much so it's not too late to mend my ways. Thanks for the PSA!
Hi there, nice video! I’ve always been taught that you always store your sander with a sandpaper attached-that way you don’t crush the hooks on the sanding pad, so it will always hold the hook and loop paper. Just a tip😁👍🌴👌
Sanding is my least favorite part of any project and I just want to get through it as quick as I can. But I used to mess up edges by applying too much pressure and letting it rock over those nice crisp edges - that was most frustrating and a lesson learned. Enjoyed the video and learned something new about potentially damaging the sander.
Really?? I think sanding is my second favorite (right behind applying the finish). Maybe because by the time I get to the sanding portion, I'm already tired and I know the project is almost over 😅
Great vid. On you rigid sander that just bounced, it's the bearing in it. I have the same one and had the same issue. Sent it off to and had had it repaired for free under their lifetime svc agreement
Thanks! I think you need proof of purchase in order to use the warranty (correct me if I'm wrong), and unfortunately that thing is long gone. I definitely plan on opening it up and seeing if I can fix it myself though... I refuse.to throw it out until I at least attempt to save it
Is it acting like mine was in the video? I'm always a fan of trying to fix things before replacing them, and depending on what the issue is, it might be a relatively easy fix if you just replace some parts. I plan on fixing mine up soon (which is why I haven't thrown it out), but just so you don't have to wait for my video, I recommend checking out some other creators because I know there are a few that explain it really well. I can't put links in comments, but try looking up a channel called Kman Builds. Just search for "Kman Builds Orbital Sander Repair". It's a different brand from what you have, but I'm guessing it should translate relatively well to others
Just getting caught up on UA-cam. Sanding is not the best way to smooth wood or remove the burn marks. Use a wood plane, no dust ( got to breathe), cleaning wood shavings is easier than chasing dust. Take a look at the reasons asians wood workers still use hand planes.
As an Oldtimer I've never thought of the additional strain I put on my sander-s- when pressing down harder to try to remove finish etc faster ( but I've never killed one of them either ) / if I have to remove heavy rough stock or finish then I use my heavy duty belt sander , a 4X24 and some 50 or 60 grit belt-s- ( you have to have skillz to do this = it's not for everyone ) btw : you seem to be missing a belt sander in your collection 😸. Waffles looks like an excellent office manager ! and an easy being to get along with 😸😸😺
Best use a belt sander for the rough stuff. Reefing on tools is normal, if they burn out you need heavier, more reef-resistant, contractor grade tools, that are designed to withstand the average shop gorilla who adds 200 pounds of pressure to the 12 Amp belt sander with the 40 grit silicate loop, resulting in a much accelerated wood pulverization process that you shouldn’t want to try and compete with. Or, to quote the world’s most foremost finishing instructor Mr Myiagi: “Patience is key!”
20! Nice. They definitely outlived my orange one. I plan on opening it up to see if I can fix it, so fingers crossed that I manage to pull that off. Gives me hope to hear that it's doable
From a french woodworker point of view here - we are by far far less reacher than US people -, i'm a little bit shocked even if you are sharing sanders with your coworkers, that's a lot ! Everything is reparable. Motor (induced... motor brushes and so on), bearings, pads... Even if you push to hard on a sander you should be able to replace and repair parts. For your Ridgid that you love so much, did you check the brushes or the bearings ? An other mistake that you don't mention (but it's not the subject of the video) is having a battery sander (the dewalt one). There are far less powerfull, you work in a shop and need to connect it to a vacuum, there is absolutely no need for them aside consumerism and marketing. Keep up the goodwork and sorry for my english mistakes, Regards from France.
I totally agree with you, and that's the main reason I haven't thrown out the broken one yet... I want to try and repair it because I'm a big fan of trying to fix things before going out to buy new ones. The battery powered sander... that one we only use for outdoor jobs where we don't have a plug, so it's not something we'd ever use in the shop. I mostly added it to the pile so I can show how many we have 😅 And please don't apologize for your English. It's great. It's not my first language either and it took me a long time to learn how to speak it properly. Even longer to learn how to write it well (and I still make plenty of mistakes)
you can repair tool yeah; takes time to do that. She is correct with most of the tools, let the machine do the work, not the "brute" from pressure of your body. however I favor scrapers. for two reasons. first scraper needs some brute pressure so I can take (my emo) out on the board and get it nicely done. and second less dust compared to sander.
Definitely agree. I think sanders get used to remove super thick layers when they maybe aren't the best tool for the job, but I think in a lot of cases that's done by people who don't have wood-shops and only have a few tools for at-home projects. In that case you have to make due with a smaller selection. And I'm with you on the repairing. That's the main reason I still have the "broken" sander. One of these days I'll get around to taking it apart and trying to fix it
We have our own Toybin for our dogs- They act just like kids- they'll come up scavenge for a specific toy and when they're done they take them back to the basket.
I don't think you're paying waffles enough for comedic content. He should really get more peanut butter treats. lol. Let's be honest. Sanding is kind of boring. If you want to sand faster, get a bigger sander like a drum sander or a belt sander. If it is super bad, you could use a file until you get the piece into the sand paper level of smoothness. My favorite way to get sanding done is slave labor. The quality suffers a bit that way, though.
We had negotiations and the treats pay has been increased. And totally agree. I'll usually use my planer when I have to take off layers or finishes because I realized quickly that the sander wasn't doing it. Although, before I had a shop and all of these tools at my disposal, I cut down on cost by having just one tool for multiple purposes, so my sander was also the finish remover. I think that's the approach for people who mainly have tools for small home projects, so that makes them break down even faster
@@woodificouldShortly after seeing your video I saw a woodworker who had a sanding disk on an angle grinder. He would do everything from basic sanding to hogging out shapes for pieces and adding a chamfer. Yeah, being in a hurry can be hard on home tools. Not hard to burn out a cheap drill bit if you put too much pressure on it. :P
Hah, I get that a lot. It's a combination of super foreign trying to learn English while moving all around the US and Canada. I think I picked up a little bit from everywhere so it's a combination
@@woodificould Thanks for the come back! Had I made a guess I would have gone Canadian as a safe bet; but, I was hearing some Baltic (Swede/Estonian). Luckily I saved my money. Keep up the great content.
If you use a sander with a dust collector port and connect a shop vac, it will suck itself down onto the workpiece which makes a HUGE difference without pushing down on the sander, and they're designed to handle that downward suction force. It also clears the sandpaper better so it lasts longer!
When I started woodworking I used power tools and power sanded everything. I dealt with mountains of sawdust. The noise, constantly wearing dust masks, and being coated like a sugar cookie in saw dust just got old. I changed my approach and now I just mainly use hand tools. Handsaws, hand planes, scrapers, and chisels. I might sand if I am using junky plywood and putty if I am gonna paint a project but that's really it. Now at the end of the day I pretty much only have to sweep up a pile of shavings. My shop is much quieter and I don't have to wear a mask as much. Also the journey creating a piece is far more enjoyable to me now.
I love the idea of using hand tools, but I still find most of them a bit intimidating. I'm trying to warm up to them though... the idea of less dust is a huge plus
@@woodificould I understand completely. It was the same for me. It takes time and practice. I've had many failures that added to my firewood pile. Now it's the opposite for me. I cringe when I turn on a power tool and I feel a lot more confident with a hand plane or handsaw in my hand. Also it's liberating to the mind knowing you can accomplish a task without electricity using your body and hands as the power source. I like the name of your channel.
Excellent advice for new woodworkers , another good habit is to store your sanders pad facing up, this stops pad from deforming.
Love your head writer. Every home needs one!
Thank you for sharing. So correct. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
The motor is not shot. There is a rubber disc with fins on it that is worn out. It's easy to replace and fairly cheap. Take the orbiting disk off you'll see the part im talking about. The fins will be worn or maybe even torn off. At least on the ridgid ones.
The cheap afrermarket ones are a little stiff. Put a little elbo grease on the sander and the fins will wear in and it'll behave.
I have found that the problem with the Ridgid sander is the bearing. I found the correct one on Amazon, replaced it and the sander was good as new. No more wild wobbling.
I would be interested in more information about this "rubber disc with fins", as I don't recall seeing anything like that when I replaced the bearing. Then again, I wasn't looking for that so maybe I need to take mine apart again and take a look.
@@awlthatwoodcrafts8911If you replaced that bearing it's the large rubber ring around it. My replacement has 590936 c1 >tpu< on it for the r2600 5" model. I did both at the same time so I don't know which one actually fixed it. iirc the bearing I pulled felt ok. The oem rubber piece was trashed the replacement needed a little running in to loosen it up.
If you registered the Rigid sanders, they have a lifetime warranty. Not sure if it will cover added pressure though
This is great, thanks! I've been meaning to open it up and see if I can get it to work again (which is the only reason it didn't get thrown out yet) so this comment gives me a push to actually get around to doing that. I know that this brand has a lifetime warranty, but unfortunately you need proof of purchase from what I understand, and that thing is definitely long gone :/
@@woodificould You have to register it within 90 days of purchase. I have numerous Ridgid tools registered and the oldest is 12 years but have never had to try out the warranty. It's actually not a warranty, it's a Lifetime Service Agreement. They will fix the tool. The batteries are replaced if they quit but have never had one quit at this time.
Hi 👋 , I love your puppy’s 🐶🐶 , Giving Heads Up Instructions 😂, I work for myself, I to have a lot of sanders, 2 of the same size, I setup for sanding one with say 80g and the other with 120g , and yes 2 dust extension, I ❤ my tools, I have one problem now insufficient room,
I've been butchering wood for 50 years and never knew that applying force to a sander would shorten its life. I don't sand shop furniture and most of my other work is planed and scraped, not sanded. I have killed one RO sander, but I assumed I got a lemon. Now I know I abused it. Thank you for sharing.
Happy to help. I will add that I'm a big fan of trying to fix broken things over throwing them out, so I do hope to do that with the broken sander. If I manage to get it going again, I'll definitely share that process
Great tip. I also used to push down on the sanders to get things done faster.
If your sanding is too slow, switch to a lower grit. It should only take 1 or 2 passes at each grit before you move up. If you notice you're having to sand the surface 4 or 5 times on a single grit to get the job done, you're using too high a grit.
Also hi Waffles!!!
A good quality paper and patience in sanding will always bring the best results. You presented great examples in handling the orbitals, too. Same goes for any sander. Less pressure, more patience...And Waffles has a great comedic writing style, imo. Too cute! 😂
Never gave it much thought beyond more pressure = faster results, luckily haven't done it much so it's not too late to mend my ways. Thanks for the PSA!
Hi there, nice video! I’ve always been taught that you always store your sander with a sandpaper attached-that way you don’t crush the hooks on the sanding pad, so it will always hold the hook and loop paper. Just a tip😁👍🌴👌
I never heard that but it does makes sense. Thanks!
Sanding is my least favorite part of any project and I just want to get through it as quick as I can. But I used to mess up edges by applying too much pressure and letting it rock over those nice crisp edges - that was most frustrating and a lesson learned. Enjoyed the video and learned something new about potentially damaging the sander.
Really?? I think sanding is my second favorite (right behind applying the finish). Maybe because by the time I get to the sanding portion, I'm already tired and I know the project is almost over 😅
I am new to this. So, I really appreciate your advice. Thank you.
Fantastic presentation 🎉! I learned something and watched through the entire video. It will help me in the future!
I forgot to mention, how is your framing going, 😂.
I'm just about to replace my dead sander. I guess I fell into the same trap as you!
Throw the dead sander away! In the immortal words of Elsa... Let it go.
How dusty your workshop is, impressive!
Great vid. On you rigid sander that just bounced, it's the bearing in it. I have the same one and had the same issue. Sent it off to and had had it repaired for free under their lifetime svc agreement
The correct bearing can be purchased on Amazon for $7, for two of them. It's not hard to replace and there is a video that shows how it's done.
Thanks! I think you need proof of purchase in order to use the warranty (correct me if I'm wrong), and unfortunately that thing is long gone. I definitely plan on opening it up and seeing if I can fix it myself though... I refuse.to throw it out until I at least attempt to save it
Brilliant
You are right, I'm a new person into Woodwork but I got a sander I think BOSCH and it already has a paper.
Should I get a new one?
Is it acting like mine was in the video? I'm always a fan of trying to fix things before replacing them, and depending on what the issue is, it might be a relatively easy fix if you just replace some parts. I plan on fixing mine up soon (which is why I haven't thrown it out), but just so you don't have to wait for my video, I recommend checking out some other creators because I know there are a few that explain it really well. I can't put links in comments, but try looking up a channel called Kman Builds. Just search for "Kman Builds Orbital Sander Repair". It's a different brand from what you have, but I'm guessing it should translate relatively well to others
You are a GEM!!@@woodificould
Just getting caught up on UA-cam.
Sanding is not the best way to smooth wood or remove the burn marks. Use a wood plane, no dust ( got to breathe), cleaning wood shavings is easier than chasing dust. Take a look at the reasons asians wood workers still use hand planes.
As an Oldtimer I've never thought of the additional strain I put on my sander-s- when pressing down harder to try to remove finish etc faster
( but I've never killed one of them either ) / if I have to remove heavy rough stock or finish then I use my heavy duty belt sander , a 4X24 and some
50 or 60 grit belt-s- ( you have to have skillz to do this = it's not for everyone ) btw : you seem to be missing a belt sander in your collection 😸.
Waffles looks like an excellent office manager ! and an easy being to get along with 😸😸😺
Fear not! I have one. It was just way too big to move for the intro 😅
@@woodificould 😸😸😻
Use a Belt Sander first then use a Orbital sander
Best use a belt sander for the rough stuff. Reefing on tools is normal, if they burn out you need heavier, more reef-resistant, contractor grade tools, that are designed to withstand the average shop gorilla who adds 200 pounds of pressure to the 12 Amp belt sander with the 40 grit silicate loop, resulting in a much accelerated wood pulverization process that you shouldn’t want to try and compete with.
Or, to quote the world’s most foremost finishing instructor Mr Myiagi: “Patience is key!”
I have 7 sanders, Lol 2 are over 20 years old and still work. The Bosch has a friction disk that is replaceable, if it wears out.
20! Nice. They definitely outlived my orange one. I plan on opening it up to see if I can fix it, so fingers crossed that I manage to pull that off. Gives me hope to hear that it's doable
Waffles is my dog's brother! They look so alike! 😳
Love it when you break out your arsenal.
You can never have enough c̶l̶a̶m̶p̶s̶ sanders
Buy more you say? Got it!
your head writer is awesome! =)
From a french woodworker point of view here - we are by far far less reacher than US people -, i'm a little bit shocked even if you are sharing sanders with your coworkers, that's a lot !
Everything is reparable. Motor (induced... motor brushes and so on), bearings, pads...
Even if you push to hard on a sander you should be able to replace and repair parts.
For your Ridgid that you love so much, did you check the brushes or the bearings ?
An other mistake that you don't mention (but it's not the subject of the video) is having a battery sander (the dewalt one). There are far less powerfull, you work in a shop and need to connect it to a vacuum, there is absolutely no need for them aside consumerism and marketing.
Keep up the goodwork and sorry for my english mistakes,
Regards from France.
I totally agree with you, and that's the main reason I haven't thrown out the broken one yet... I want to try and repair it because I'm a big fan of trying to fix things before going out to buy new ones.
The battery powered sander... that one we only use for outdoor jobs where we don't have a plug, so it's not something we'd ever use in the shop. I mostly added it to the pile so I can show how many we have 😅
And please don't apologize for your English. It's great. It's not my first language either and it took me a long time to learn how to speak it properly. Even longer to learn how to write it well (and I still make plenty of mistakes)
you can repair tool yeah; takes time to do that. She is correct with most of the tools, let the machine do the work, not the "brute" from pressure of your body. however I favor scrapers. for two reasons. first scraper needs some brute pressure so I can take (my emo) out on the board and get it nicely done. and second less dust compared to sander.
Definitely agree. I think sanders get used to remove super thick layers when they maybe aren't the best tool for the job, but I think in a lot of cases that's done by people who don't have wood-shops and only have a few tools for at-home projects. In that case you have to make due with a smaller selection. And I'm with you on the repairing. That's the main reason I still have the "broken" sander. One of these days I'll get around to taking it apart and trying to fix it
Great video .
Sander? I barely know her! Lmao I make that joke all the time lol. Great vid thank you
My friends are already tired of me, but it still makes me laugh so I keep making it 😂
We have our own Toybin for our dogs- They act just like kids- they'll come up scavenge for a specific toy and when they're done they take them back to the basket.
I actually really want to make one and teach her how to put her toys away. It's on my list of projects for the (hopefully) near future
Note
Buy the heaviest 150mm sander you can!😊😊😊
heyyy hi ! nice video, one time i see some marks very hard to remove with 80 or 60 sandpaper (sorry my english)
Yup! That's also another point I should have made... pressing down doesn't give the best results for the wood either
I have the rigid sander and it is 24 years old, I never use it full speed and nothing over speed setting 2.
I'm legitimately impressed that they can last that long, and now even more embarrassed that mine didn't make it a fraction of that
Get the best sander u can afford and the best quality papers!!!😊😊😊
And here I thought your name was Sandy. _Tish boom_ 🤦♂️
I don't think you're paying waffles enough for comedic content. He should really get more peanut butter treats. lol.
Let's be honest. Sanding is kind of boring. If you want to sand faster, get a bigger sander like a drum sander or a belt sander. If it is super bad, you could use a file until you get the piece into the sand paper level of smoothness. My favorite way to get sanding done is slave labor. The quality suffers a bit that way, though.
We had negotiations and the treats pay has been increased.
And totally agree. I'll usually use my planer when I have to take off layers or finishes because I realized quickly that the sander wasn't doing it. Although, before I had a shop and all of these tools at my disposal, I cut down on cost by having just one tool for multiple purposes, so my sander was also the finish remover. I think that's the approach for people who mainly have tools for small home projects, so that makes them break down even faster
@@woodificouldShortly after seeing your video I saw a woodworker who had a sanding disk on an angle grinder. He would do everything from basic sanding to hogging out shapes for pieces and adding a chamfer.
Yeah, being in a hurry can be hard on home tools. Not hard to burn out a cheap drill bit if you put too much pressure on it. :P
I become more smarter every time I watch one of your videos...🤣
I can't place the accent.
Hah, I get that a lot. It's a combination of super foreign trying to learn English while moving all around the US and Canada. I think I picked up a little bit from everywhere so it's a combination
@@woodificould Thanks for the come back! Had I made a guess I would have gone Canadian as a safe bet; but, I was hearing some Baltic (Swede/Estonian). Luckily I saved my money. Keep up the great content.
@@themeat5053 Oh no, you got it! The original accent is Baltic so you were right on the money
Please remove the ppe 😊
The ppe is doing its job, why remove it. One of the few woodworking youTubers that wear some🤔
You don’t know what you’re talking about…lol