Martyn is not alone in his experience, yet he his fortunate to have persevered. Schools in the modern world take more pride in the numbers of able graduates from their school than the number they actually produce. That is to say, today's recruiting standards are such that the admitted student is far more likely to grasp an introduced concept than one who has to be taught. A student is also much more likely to succeed if they have sound financial backing. One can only imagine the benefit of being the wealthy parent of an intellectually gifted child. It is no longer important the ability of the child or their nurturing, but rather the value of the certificate (diploma) on their wall. So many brilliant minds in our society (world) are overlooked by the motivation of money.
Exactly and this something like " education scam" My buisness school is same and I failed because they dont give enough explanation on particular topic
This has really made me feel a lot better about my 2.2. I was under a lot of pressure in my final year due to losing my grandmother 1 week before my final exams. The prof is a real inspiration to wear your accolades with pride
Just when you think this man cannot teach you anymore, he smashes the illusion that getting good marks makes you intelligent… I learn so much from this great man..!
You know, when I incorrectly thought "2.2/4.0" it made me feel great, now with this scheme, I just have this sense of utter failure. He still got honours at a very credible institution, even if it was not first class. His story offers much less hope now.
An F-up is never an F-up till you can't fix it or you learned nothing. You, Professor, have inspired millions and undoubtedly you will inspire millions more. We need a president like Martyn. Honest, to the point, and charming!!
You are always so sincere and enthusiastic. I have never watched an entire video with you without smiling. Thank you for sharing your story, it did make me feel better about my terrible grades. :-)
I just graduated with a 2:2 in Physics, but it's always been my hope to do a PhD and get into research later in life. Right now I'm going to settle into a graduate job and save up money so I can afford to follow up my average Bachelor degree with a Masters so I can then apply for PhD positions :-D
+Frank Clarke I can already see you as Dr. Frank Clarke ^^ May your sacrifice be rewarded. There are a few such people in the world :-) PS. Did you apply for some Scholarship? A scholarship would really speed things up for you plus save you some money.
I'm currently studying for a postgraduate Masters in Gravity, particles & fields at Nottingham University. It's very difficult but I'm doing what I wanted.
***** I wish I was as great a man as you are. :'( I'm serious. You'll always be my inspiration. The day I become a physicist, I'll remember you for giving me the motivation to start off in the right direction.
a 2/2 is a 2nd class degree, lower division. The classification in the UK for degrees with and without honours are; First class honours (1st) Second class honours, upper division (2:1) Second class honours, lower division (2:2) Third class honours (3rd) Ordinary degree (Pass) Though a 2:2 from King's College, Cambridge holds some kudos
I did quite badly for a few semesters in university before realizing that I hadn't learned how to study yet. Until then, I'd blown off practice problems as ungraded (and therefore unnecessary) work. Now, I treat them as an investment in my performance on exams, but more importantly, an avenue to deeper understanding of theory, practice, and weird exceptions. As a TA who teaches tutorials, I try to lead my students to the same conclusion - it's worth the time doing practice problems, not just for better exam results but also for demonstrating to oneself that one has, in fact, understood the material.
I got my GED in highschool. I also did poorly on my GRE's twice. I did very good on the argument portion. I now finished my associates and bachelors with minor. finished my masters at Oxford and an American college. Now I am working on my D.Sc. Doctorate of science. Everyone do not get down on yourself. Each one of you is smart. The purpose of test taking is only to prove one's test taking ability nothing else.
@@leskipbayless3280 depends on what you study and where you wanna go with it. in many stem fields you can still get jobs. however chemistry afaik often requires a phd
The point I am trying to make is that the grade does not necessarily mean very much out of context. In other words it is generally easier to get a 2.1 or 1st nowadays than it was 20+ years ago.
I hope to meet Martyn one day, I can only imagine where a conversation would go, but it wouldn't matter because I doubt that it would be anything other than fascinating and humourous
I realy like Professor Poliakoff, I like the videos about the atoms in the periodic table. Professor Poliakoff has amazing knowledge and gives very interesting lectures in his videos. Thank you for motivation.
This tells me that even though I have an 80 in high school chemistry, If I apply myself, and love the science, maybe I can go places with it. :) Thank you professor, and Brady.
Yeah I would say you were partly right about it being less linear, but it all depends on the major, the individual, and the teaching. I'm not sure what counts as a high grade at an American college, or even if the grading criteria is different in difficulty. I cant judge or even compare anything between both American universities and British universities. But achieving a first class honours degree is no easy feat. To give you an idea...
All a grade does is tell other how good you are, supposedly. I used to tell my crew to quit 'telling' me how good they were and to start 'showing' me how good they were . Very few ever did.
Idk if anyone else noticed this, but at the very end when he had that big grin. He almost looked a lot younger for a moment. So remember, find reasons to smile every day.
@from93till theres 1st, 2:1, 2:2, 3rd, pass and fail (that's the order of how good they are) you're basically right about the A and the C, but not the F.
this man was one of the GREATEST EVER - he was my personal tutor at Nottingham ('86 - '89) - I'm happy I "beat him" as I got a 2:1...... sorry, Martyn - I still think you're the best!
I think I damn near failed my calculus test. I knew the material, but I was stressing out and my memory got foggy. This is the first time it's ever happened, and now I feel ashamed...
@Derrekito Most people are like Lancelot in the movie "Camelot". To paraphrase him, "I am the most humble person I know. Maybe I am the most humble person in the world! No one is as humble as Lancelot!"
Although the Scottish universities are different here (slightly) in that it isn't until your 3rd year that your marks start to count, but you do need to do quite well in your second year to get into 3rd year and onwards. However the grades generally speaking do follow that pattern.
@0Antti To some extent yes, it just won't necessarily be very accurate, but generally in tests you have the smartest of the class getting the highest results and vice versa...
At the end of the day a degree grade is only a mark. What you do after is is still in your hands, don't let the grade you got hold you back. I've come across people with 1st class degrees who are academically cleaver yet totally inept in the real world. Life is for living
There are three classes of degree: 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 1st class is 70%+, and about 10% of students get it; a 2:1 (2i or an upper second) is 60-69%; 2:2 (2ii or lower second) is 50-59%; 3rd is 40-49%. Anything below 40% is a fail. Keep in mind that that UK marking system means that 70% is a damn good score, so lower percentages are good marks, compared to the US system.
A 2.2 is roughly around 3.00 -3.32 GPA for those who live in America. before you judge, you must realize there is no real link between the British university grading scheme, to that of the American scheme.
i've botched a few chem exams in my day. In the beginning i was devastated with getting a C, which was the lowest score, and I eventually learned the only thing I can do is move on and study even harder for the next exam but try to not get psyched out. It happens to the best of us haha
I believe a 2:2 is a C grade. The grading system will go like.. A+ A A- B+ B B- C+ C C- D+ D D- Fail I think a 2:2 falls into the C- to C+ grade which is between 50-59%. A 1:1 or a first is A- to A+ which is 70%+, a 2:1 is a B grade which is 60-69%, etc etc. Hope this helps.
Wow- I mean, I worked on a research project my second year that could've been published, but only in an undergraduate journal at best, and most students never get the chance to do something like that. It sounds like the British collegiate experience, at the upper level, might be a tad closer to the first couple of years at an American grad school... You are definitely right though, what counts as a "good" grade here varies from school to school. Great grades though, are always very nearly a 4.0.
That's a common misconception. He never flunked school. He didn't do excellent in all areas on his entrance exam, but he achieved excellent grades in math and physics. They gave him advice to attend another school to finish his secondary education, a year later he enrolled into a 4-year maths and physics teaching diploma program.
Well I had a horrible time during my A'Levels, resulting in only passing A'level Chemistry with a grade C! Went on to do an HND in Civil Engineering then a Degree in Civil Engineering which I passed with a 2:1. Best time of my life were during University but the 6th form days do haunt me
I once did an oral exam which I hardly even expected to pass (needless to say, it was hardly my favourite topic). I went in, nearly talked my head off, and got the third-best grade on the ten-level grade scale used at the time...!
I became a trucker when I was 17 but finished university as a bachelor in mechanical engineering everyone thought I'd be a scientist or something but NAA I followed my dream
Here is the prof at his most charming! But here, I have one up on him. I got a third. And not from some place that, admittedly, has very nice singers, but from Oggsford! And my prof asked me if I'd considered staying on to do research. Unbelievable? Well no, because a person might be very good in one area of physics and quite weak in others. I worry about the trust put in exam results, especially when a minister for education can't answer a question about english that he's required to be put to six year old children (a current scandal in the UK).
Generally speaking, all work of all scientists is derived from the work of other scientists. We all stand on each other's shoulders to reach great heights.
It's quite disappointing when your teachers tell your parents and others- this boy is gonna rock the result card. When it comes out and he finds out the you didn't even get an A, they look at you and wonder- ... what happened?
In what I'm studying (multimedia (anything that goes in the lines of site making/programing, 2D/3D animation, 3D modeling, logo making, sound montage,...)), I have a hard time with programing...
This is the cutest, lovliest, most down to earth Professor I've ever seen! That's even more surprising considering he's in the field of chemistry. Is it just the chem department of my university where students feel intimidated by Professors? Or does anyone feel the same? Our biology Professors are best friends compared to chem...
@PanzerX7 In the UK passing rgades go A to D, beneath which there are varying fail grades. The minimum passing grade (for a D minus) is 40%. On the other hand we award percentage marks less generously here than they do in the US: A typical class will gain a small handful of A's and a small handfull of D's, the vast bulk of the students attaining either a B or a C. If your class average is much higher than 60% then your superiors will start grumbling that you are making your tests too easy.
When taking an exam if you get stuck MOVE ON! Typos on final exams can happen. I found a major one on one of my chemistry finals. If you totally bomb one of your exams just remember to tell yourself "It's not the end of the world".
Did they have a period at the start of the exam where you could query apparent typos? I think we had 15 minutes. I found an error in one of my finals too, and at the end of the exam the invigilator made a note on my answer paper that I was the person who pointed it out. I doubt it counted for anything, but it was a nice gesture.
Meh, he's glad about it and so am I. He makes a great chemistry lecturer, and he got his professorship! So he obviously worked very hard. Leave physics to the dudes at sixty symbols!
Just because you know more about general and spatial relativity than someone else doesn't necessarily make you smarter than them. Everyone's got their own strengths and weaknesses, so while they won't know as much as you do in that field, their knowledge in another area (mathematics, politics, law, etc.) could quite easily be exceed yours. That said, you don't just judge someone's level of intellect by one exam alone, but by their overall performance. In that respect, the Professor kicks ass.
So does C mean something different there? Over here (USA) a C is generally regarded as something like 65-75% or 70-79%, 50-59% would be considered a failing (or at least quite poor) grade.
Exactlytrue about school exams. But school exams are not even judging an ability. For example, you can't measure someones climbing abilities by asking them questions about climbing. Anyone can memorize books about climbing and answer your questions. Science skills are the same. My friends at highschool can solve questions about atom-photon interactions and molecule geometry. But when I showed them 90-95% ethanol I distilled with the distiller I built, they got shocked and called me Einstein.
It was my understanding that in Britain, the grading scale is, in a manner of speaking, less "linear" than ours, so top grades are much harder to get than moderately-less-than-top grades; is this accurate? I'm not sure where I got this idea, so it may be totally wrong, and I'd like to know what's true.
The actual failure is not failing in the exams, but failing to apply everything they studied when they are working later. Believe me, too many people are like that. >.
10/10 Professor. Would take an extra class just to have him as a professor. Thank you for bringing him to UA-cam so more people can learn from him!
Martyn is not alone in his experience, yet he his fortunate to have persevered. Schools in the modern world take more pride in the numbers of able graduates from their school than the number they actually produce. That is to say, today's recruiting standards are such that the admitted student is far more likely to grasp an introduced concept than one who has to be taught. A student is also much more likely to succeed if they have sound financial backing. One can only imagine the benefit of being the wealthy parent of an intellectually gifted child. It is no longer important the ability of the child or their nurturing, but rather the value of the certificate (diploma) on their wall. So many brilliant minds in our society (world) are overlooked by the motivation of money.
Les D. Mess Exactly..
Exactly and this something like " education scam"
My buisness school is same and I failed because they dont give enough explanation on particular topic
This has really made me feel a lot better about my 2.2. I was under a lot of pressure in my final year due to losing my grandmother 1 week before my final exams. The prof is a real inspiration to wear your accolades with pride
to be honest a 2.2 at cambridge in the time he did it would have been a very good result. that is not really a fail
A 2:2 is not a bad exam result. I was expecting him to say a 3rd given how he was speaking about it.
Just when you think this man cannot teach you anymore, he smashes the illusion that getting good marks makes you intelligent… I learn so much from this great man..!
To see the Professor smile like that warms my heart, what a great man! I wish I had professors like Martyn in college.
"I very nearly failed"
Got a B.
When you encounter failure, you will truly understand what is success and develop empathy for others...
You know, when I incorrectly thought "2.2/4.0" it made me feel great, now with this scheme, I just have this sense of utter failure. He still got honours at a very credible institution, even if it was not first class. His story offers much less hope now.
An F-up is never an F-up till you can't fix it or you learned nothing.
You, Professor, have inspired millions and undoubtedly you will inspire millions more. We need a president like Martyn. Honest, to the point, and charming!!
You are always so sincere and enthusiastic. I have never watched an entire video with you without smiling.
Thank you for sharing your story, it did make me feel better about my terrible grades. :-)
I just graduated with a 2:2 in Physics, but it's always been my hope to do a PhD and get into research later in life. Right now I'm going to settle into a graduate job and save up money so I can afford to follow up my average Bachelor degree with a Masters so I can then apply for PhD positions :-D
Good luck. Stay focused.
+Frank Clarke
I can already see you as Dr. Frank Clarke ^^
May your sacrifice be rewarded. There are a few such people in the world :-)
PS. Did you apply for some Scholarship? A scholarship would really speed things up for you plus save you some money.
I'm currently studying for a postgraduate Masters in Gravity, particles & fields at Nottingham University. It's very difficult but I'm doing what I wanted.
*****
I wish I was as great a man as you are. :'(
I'm serious. You'll always be my inspiration. The day I become a physicist, I'll remember you for giving me the motivation to start off in the right direction.
Frank Clarke how's it gone?
this man has a child-like smile
a 2/2 is a 2nd class degree, lower division.
The classification in the UK for degrees with and without honours are;
First class honours (1st)
Second class honours, upper division (2:1)
Second class honours, lower division (2:2)
Third class honours (3rd)
Ordinary degree (Pass)
Though a 2:2 from King's College, Cambridge holds some kudos
I did quite badly for a few semesters in university before realizing that I hadn't learned how to study yet. Until then, I'd blown off practice problems as ungraded (and therefore unnecessary) work. Now, I treat them as an investment in my performance on exams, but more importantly, an avenue to deeper understanding of theory, practice, and weird exceptions. As a TA who teaches tutorials, I try to lead my students to the same conclusion - it's worth the time doing practice problems, not just for better exam results but also for demonstrating to oneself that one has, in fact, understood the material.
What a lovely, lovely man!
No worries. I greatly appreciate the calm and thoughtful response.
I got my GED in highschool. I also did poorly on my GRE's twice. I did very good on the argument portion. I now finished my associates and bachelors with minor. finished my masters at Oxford and an American college. Now I am working on my D.Sc. Doctorate of science. Everyone do not get down on yourself. Each one of you is smart. The purpose of test taking is only to prove one's test taking ability nothing else.
The Prof is awesome. I would love to meet him one day. :-)
He has got more swagg than many young people!
A 2:2 isn't even bad. When he said he very nearly failed I was expecting a 3rd.
Joshua Mitchell It is for academia, though.
Stephen Dedalus It's even bad for jobs. Find me any too graduate jobs that require less than a 2:1.
@@leskipbayless3280 depends on what you study and where you wanna go with it. in many stem fields you can still get jobs. however chemistry afaik often requires a phd
@@BuGGyBoBerl Fairs
The point I am trying to make is that the grade does not necessarily mean very much out of context.
In other words it is generally easier to get a 2.1 or 1st nowadays than it was 20+ years ago.
Thank You Professor you have given me hope.
We all needed to hear this
I'm supposed to study for my exams now. Was supposed to study 6 hours today and I only studied one hour. I had to hear something like this, thank you.
That is the best way to look at it. Every messup is a chance to learn.
Humility is a core value of a good scientist.
THE BEST vids on YT.
I hope to meet Martyn one day, I can only imagine where a conversation would go, but it wouldn't matter because I doubt that it would be anything other than fascinating and humourous
His smile at the end, PROFESSOR WHY ARE YOU SO ADORABLE!?
I realy like Professor Poliakoff, I like the videos about the atoms in the periodic table.
Professor Poliakoff has amazing knowledge and gives very interesting lectures in his videos.
Thank you for motivation.
i needed this right now, thanks !
i havent got a clue what that result means
+eyechubcunt between 50% and 60% I think
Me neither
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification#Degree_classification
50-59%
omg this is exactly what I needed now I was crying about the school pressure and then this showed up👍🏻👍🏻
only a fellow Indian will understand what you went through.
Tomorrow is my Physics exams(boards) and i'm glad i found this video
This tells me that even though I have an 80 in high school chemistry, If I apply myself, and love the science, maybe I can go places with it. :) Thank you professor, and Brady.
Yeah I would say you were partly right about it being less linear, but it all depends on the major, the individual, and the teaching. I'm not sure what counts as a high grade at an American college, or even if the grading criteria is different in difficulty. I cant judge or even compare anything between both American universities and British universities. But achieving a first class honours degree is no easy feat. To give you an idea...
I am so glad to know that a man of his calibre and stature gets normal grades. Makes me feel good as a student to keep going and don't give up!
That's very reassuring, thanks!
All a grade does is tell other how good you are, supposedly. I used to tell my crew to quit 'telling' me how good they were and to start 'showing' me how good they were . Very few ever did.
It happens to the best of us....
Idk if anyone else noticed this, but at the very end when he had that big grin. He almost looked a lot younger for a moment. So remember, find reasons to smile every day.
That smile/laugh at the end made my day.
@OldakQuill Thanks for clearing that up! I wish someone had explained that to me when I transferred from an American Institution to a European one!
5 people accidentally hit dislike
Harry Gross 6 people now, people are clumsy these days
1 year later 6 more did
It's easy; those thumbs-down are thumbs-up from supporters in the Southern Hemisphere. 😉
18! :/
@from93till
theres 1st, 2:1, 2:2, 3rd, pass and fail (that's the order of how good they are)
you're basically right about the A and the C, but not the F.
this man was one of the GREATEST EVER - he was my personal tutor at Nottingham ('86 - '89) - I'm happy I "beat him" as I got a 2:1...... sorry, Martyn - I still think you're the best!
It's a 2:2, or lower second. It's kind of the equivalent of a C if you want to put it in that kind of a system.
I think I damn near failed my calculus test. I knew the material, but I was stressing out and my memory got foggy. This is the first time it's ever happened, and now I feel ashamed...
Great video. Thanks.
@Derrekito Most people are like Lancelot in the movie "Camelot". To paraphrase him, "I am the most humble person I know. Maybe I am the most humble person in the world! No one is as humble as Lancelot!"
Although the Scottish universities are different here (slightly) in that it isn't until your 3rd year that your marks start to count, but you do need to do quite well in your second year to get into 3rd year and onwards.
However the grades generally speaking do follow that pattern.
Back in 1992 when I graduated around 2% of the students were given a 1st.
So it seems like things have changed quite a bit since then.
@0Antti To some extent yes, it just won't necessarily be very accurate, but generally in tests you have the smartest of the class getting the highest results and vice versa...
I wish there were more teachers like him.
At the end of the day a degree grade is only a mark. What you do after is is still in your hands, don't let the grade you got hold you back. I've come across people with 1st class degrees who are academically cleaver yet totally inept in the real world. Life is for living
I love that smile at the end :)
There are three classes of degree: 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 1st class is 70%+, and about 10% of students get it; a 2:1 (2i or an upper second) is 60-69%; 2:2 (2ii or lower second) is 50-59%; 3rd is 40-49%. Anything below 40% is a fail. Keep in mind that that UK marking system means that 70% is a damn good score, so lower percentages are good marks, compared to the US system.
A 2.2 is roughly around 3.00 -3.32 GPA for those who live in America.
before you judge, you must realize there is no real link between the British university grading scheme, to that of the American scheme.
i've botched a few chem exams in my day. In the beginning i was devastated with getting a C, which was the lowest score, and I eventually learned the only thing I can do is move on and study even harder for the next exam but try to not get psyched out. It happens to the best of us haha
I believe a 2:2 is a C grade. The grading system will go like..
A+
A
A-
B+
B
B-
C+
C
C-
D+
D
D-
Fail
I think a 2:2 falls into the C- to C+ grade which is between 50-59%. A 1:1 or a first is A- to A+ which is 70%+, a 2:1 is a B grade which is 60-69%, etc etc.
Hope this helps.
2:2 at Cambridge in the 60s. Basically, a first class at any other uni in the 2010s.
@@tGGgGg-sp9yx The people with firsts from Surrey today are more intelligent than the prof, I see.
Wow- I mean, I worked on a research project my second year that could've been published, but only in an undergraduate journal at best, and most students never get the chance to do something like that. It sounds like the British collegiate experience, at the upper level, might be a tad closer to the first couple of years at an American grad school... You are definitely right though, what counts as a "good" grade here varies from school to school. Great grades though, are always very nearly a 4.0.
Without people like him I would be out of a job.
awesome humblenes
Man's a Legend! I graduated with a 2:2. Felt proper inspired after watching this.
That's a common misconception. He never flunked school. He didn't do excellent in all areas on his entrance exam, but he achieved excellent grades in math and physics. They gave him advice to attend another school to finish his secondary education, a year later he enrolled into a 4-year maths and physics teaching diploma program.
Well I had a horrible time during my A'Levels, resulting in only passing A'level Chemistry with a grade C! Went on to do an HND in Civil Engineering then a Degree in Civil Engineering which I passed with a 2:1. Best time of my life were during University but the 6th form days do haunt me
professor still have the same monitor ... :D
That was just wonderful.
I once did an oral exam which I hardly even expected to pass (needless to say, it was hardly my favourite topic). I went in, nearly talked my head off, and got the third-best grade on the ten-level grade scale used at the time...!
I became a trucker when I was 17 but finished university as a bachelor in mechanical engineering everyone thought I'd be a scientist or something but NAA I followed my dream
Here is the prof at his most charming! But here, I have one up on him. I got a third. And not from some place that, admittedly, has very nice singers, but from Oggsford! And my prof asked me if I'd considered staying on to do research. Unbelievable? Well no, because a person might be very good in one area of physics and quite weak in others. I worry about the trust put in exam results, especially when a minister for education can't answer a question about english that he's required to be put to six year old children (a current scandal in the UK).
Generally speaking, all work of all scientists is derived from the work of other scientists. We all stand on each other's shoulders to reach great heights.
It's quite disappointing when your teachers tell your parents and others- this boy is gonna rock the result card.
When it comes out and he finds out the you didn't even get an A, they look at you and wonder- ... what happened?
In what I'm studying (multimedia (anything that goes in the lines of site making/programing, 2D/3D animation, 3D modeling, logo making, sound montage,...)), I have a hard time with programing...
Why don't you do a new one of these for more of the doctors and professors?
This is the cutest, lovliest, most down to earth Professor I've ever seen! That's even more surprising considering he's in the field of chemistry. Is it just the chem department of my university where students feel intimidated by Professors? Or does anyone feel the same? Our biology Professors are best friends compared to chem...
@PanzerX7 In the UK passing rgades go A to D, beneath which there are varying fail grades. The minimum passing grade (for a D minus) is 40%. On the other hand we award percentage marks less generously here than they do in the US: A typical class will gain a small handful of A's and a small handfull of D's, the vast bulk of the students attaining either a B or a C. If your class average is much higher than 60% then your superiors will start grumbling that you are making your tests too easy.
this made me feel better about biology. Knowing that you don't have to have like A+ on every test to be a scientist.
When taking an exam if you get stuck MOVE ON! Typos on final exams can happen. I found a major one on one of my chemistry finals. If you totally bomb one of your exams just remember to tell yourself "It's not the end of the world".
Did they have a period at the start of the exam where you could query apparent typos? I think we had 15 minutes. I found an error in one of my finals too, and at the end of the exam the invigilator made a note on my answer paper that I was the person who pointed it out. I doubt it counted for anything, but it was a nice gesture.
The (sad) thing here is that the lower 2nd was in physics? his original love, which made him change tack to chemistry. damn maths!
Meh, he's glad about it and so am I. He makes a great chemistry lecturer, and he got his professorship! So he obviously worked very hard. Leave physics to the dudes at sixty symbols!
I hate it.. When a professor judges you because of your marks regardless of your efforts in the Class!
@Grundalizer
2:2 the 3rd highest award you can get.
where 1:1 is the best, and 2:1 is second.
the worst is 3:3, not to mention a fail altogether
Anyone care to explain exactly what a 2:2 is? What type of grading scale is it part of?
I should clarify that at some schools, 3.0 is just 83-86% (80-82% is 2.7 and 87-89% is 3.3).
Wow. How did he get where he is today with a 2:2? That's impressive.
Geez now I feel good again. I need to read downward further in the future.
Just because you know more about general and spatial relativity than someone else doesn't necessarily make you smarter than them. Everyone's got their own strengths and weaknesses, so while they won't know as much as you do in that field, their knowledge in another area (mathematics, politics, law, etc.) could quite easily be exceed yours. That said, you don't just judge someone's level of intellect by one exam alone, but by their overall performance. In that respect, the Professor kicks ass.
So does C mean something different there? Over here (USA) a C is generally regarded as something like 65-75% or 70-79%, 50-59% would be considered a failing (or at least quite poor) grade.
Exactlytrue about school exams.
But school exams are not even judging an ability. For example, you can't measure someones climbing abilities by asking them questions about climbing. Anyone can memorize books about climbing and answer your questions.
Science skills are the same. My friends at highschool can solve questions about atom-photon interactions and molecule geometry.
But when I showed them 90-95% ethanol I distilled with the distiller I built, they got shocked and called me Einstein.
Humble...
This man just makes one smile :-)
It was my understanding that in Britain, the grading scale is, in a manner of speaking, less "linear" than ours, so top grades are much harder to get than moderately-less-than-top grades; is this accurate? I'm not sure where I got this idea, so it may be totally wrong, and I'd like to know what's true.
if it's anything like the way my university distributes grades, a 2-2 sounds very much like a very skimmed pass and nearing a borderline fail.
What's a tutu exam result? Or is it 2-2?
I'm gonna take a guess and say if a 1:1 is an A and and 3:3 is an F, then a 2:2 is a C.
What's a 2:2 ?
A 1.1 (first class) is close, or can be, good enough to be published. That's the quality of work that they are expecting for a first class degree.
What is a 2.2?
The actual failure is not failing in the exams, but failing to apply everything they studied when they are working later. Believe me, too many people are like that. >.