How to become a professor
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2009
- How does one rise from being a lowly undergraduate to an esteemed professor? Three scientists explain how the academic system works and how they won recent promotions. More about what science is REALLY like at www.test-tube.org.uk/
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Physical Biochemistry, for when you can't decide which science to pursue so you just do all of them.
@@chris.hoskinson You must have a pretty boring life, haven't you?
@@torosytoros 😂
What about biochemical engineering
Most of it is Chemistry.
@@reigndrops4090 Pretty much.
I earned my Ph.D (Doctorate in Philosophy) at 55-yo. It required 5 1/2 years and $10,000.00 and a small library to get there. Now I have my own Research Project. I am 67-yo now and am very inspired and motivated to assist others that has a hunger to ascend to a higher plane of mind. Peace
Step 1: get a jacket with elbow patches. After that you're on your own.
It's called a blazer. -Barney Stinson
Step2: Mount steel, sharp spikes on those elbows.
Step3: Hit very hard with those elbows everytime you need to eliminate competition.
:-))))
50 to 500 pages? 50 pages it is!
rainers10 A mathematics PhD thesis for you then. Full of equations.
Depends on what you study. It very well may take 500 pages to discuss, prove, and defend your research.
"Professors in the top of the food chain"
does that mean they eat students
Yes, but indirectly
@@supermarc Yeah, they tend to eat the lecturers and post-docs who eat the graduate students who eat the undergrads
@@forkevbot And what do the undergrads feed on??
@@6023barath Beans on toast.
"easy"
This was a really well edited video.
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Ikr
1. be smart.
2. be lucky
3. know people.
Be nasty. Be dishonest.
Deipatrous, no be a liar but kind
4. Do an insane amount of work and try to come out sane on the other side.
Researchers, in general, are not necessarily trained to teach... that is one hole in the schooling. Some of the top universities require PhD students to do some teaching, as a teaching assistant. This is very useful.
This job literally has no extrinsic value, at least not until one climbs the ladder, but the process is so long and strenuous that one has to wonder if the reward at the end does any justice to the investment demanded all throughout. It is so sad, these are the people that truly make a contribution to humanity, but what else can one expect from a society that does not value education. I now have a much more profound respect for all my tenure professors.
the internet will fix a lot of the stuff you said, give it 20 more years and humanity will value education more
ibrahim, true, the worst enemy of a researcher/academic is universities themselves and university administrators. it's like reliving some Kafka's novel.
TheBoss2288 well don't feel too compassionate.... cause they themselves won the lottery too so
What do you mean by "all my tenure professors"?
In my whole degree I was never taught by one full professor, they're too busy running their departments to be giving classes to undergrads. I had plenty of senior lecturers or associate professors but not *the* professor, let alone more than one (were they from different departments?)
@@QuasiELVIS Perhaps where you live it is somewhat different? I had a number of tenured professors who ran courses. I had one in sociology, one in math, one in a critical reading course, and one in physics at least. So quite a wide range of disciplines. It was in the US. It was at a very large university that has a lot of research, and was somewhere between average and ivy league as far as ranking/reputation in most areas. In all of these cases, the professors enjoyed teaching. Also I think maybe I actually had 3-4 tenured professors run my courses in physics (my major) because the department was somewhat small and a large portion of the upper level electives are taught by tenured professors.
"easy" steps.
"Easy"
[sigh]
In high school my longest paper was maybe 8 pages. In college I studied psychology with a minor in neuroscience and another minor in chemistry. My first semester psychology course final was a 20 page paper. First semester sophomore psych paper was 40 pages. Junior final was 60 pages. Senior final was a 12 month long intensive research project with a 100 page written thesis. It ramped up slowly, perhaps, but by the end it was hardcore.
Wow, as a first year undergrad with aspirations of one day making a living from research, this is so demoralising!
Moses Bullrush
lol, let me guess, no universty wanted you so now you're mad? pathetic.
CastelDawn lol Let me guess, the video link in my comment was beyond your comprehension - congrats, you qualify for University admisson - followed by flipping burgers.
I suppose you also believe in Anthropogenic Global Warming even though you can't show any causal correlation between atmosheric CO2 concentrations and Earth Temperature.
Moses Bullrush Whether "global warming" is real or not, the effects of addressing are beneficial for 99.9% of the human population (the 99.9% that don't make billions of of selling oil,coal etc.) why?
Simple, because the hydrocarbon bi products of burning fossils fuels are harmful to human health. Replacing them with a clean, harmless energy source isn't a bad thing, and any sane person would be wise to encourage governments to address the issue of "global warming" even if they do not believe in it, for the sole purpose of creating a cleaner, healthier environment for everybody.
just to leave comments Hydrocarbon emmissions have been cleaned up by catalytic converters, acid rain and smog have been dealt with, CO2 emissions remain and that is why cars and power stations are evaluated according to the CO2 emissions.
CO2 is not pollution, we need more CO2 which will boost plant growth and make the earth bloom with abundance, that is why they want to squash CO2 emissions and limit food production and limit population survival.
Video Title: Seeing Is Believing
/watch?v=P2qVNK6zFgE
Do you really believe they want to limit CO2 because they care about us? The EPA movement is designed to crush the economy of America and force Americans down to lower economic levels which make ordinary people dependent on the Government. Land and resource control is all about enviro-green- communism. The NWO Corporations behind de-forestation are the same people as the Koch Bros and the Wall Street Fake Global Warming Carbon Tax Swindlers who want to treat all humans like Palestinians.
just to leave comments You can't show any historic or current correlation between atmospheric CO2 concentrations and Earth Temperature therefore Global Warming propaganda is promoted by Wall Street Carbon Tax Swindlers and the beneficiaries of their Trillion Dollar per year Carbon Derivatives Market. Global Warming is just a bigger version of ENRON.
HOLY **** and I thought that obtaining a PhD was something prestigious...
I KNOW SOME WITH MASTERS ARE WAY BETTER THAN THOSE WITH PHD
Dean Bellamy it is?
It is, but this video makes it sound like it's just the "first step" lol, I do see why it's gone over so quickly in this vid TBF though, being a professor is an insanely high level to reach
@@robinthebobin6537 made this comment as a young individual prior undergrad/post grad studies. Needless to say my MSc experience will be the last. Academia is interesting, but not for me entirely.
@@dean8147 Fair enough, GL with your future ventures!
why are so many people demoralised? becoming a professor means doing research and hard work...why would you think everyone has to be easy so everyone can be a professor?
+sidewaysfcs0718 lol
+sidewaysfcs0718 Because some people find it easier to rely on the bible and pretend all these scientists and doctors are wrong and are studying lies!
+The Aura Tree Or maybe I don't have 180 IQ and I'm not the next Einstein, you imbecile.
The Aura Tree Even easier to guess yours considering your tendency to be prejudicial.
The Aura Tree If your ignorant mind doesn't know this: the "le" was put in due to associating Reddit and sticking "le" in everything during the old times of Reddit - times when you still were in kindergarten.
You contradict yourself as you call yourself "smart" yet you "judge a book by its cover", the least intelligent thing to do.
I appreciate your trolling efforts and your display of ignorance, but the block button says otherwise.
If you will continue to troll like you usually do in your pathetic life, then it will be put to use.
This video was a fantastic inspiration to me and probably a lot of other scientists in training. Makes me value the genius of the professors I have access to even more. I'm definitely going to stay in active research though!
Editing was really really good too.
What an insight! So interesting and a revelation about what it takes to become a professor. What an achievement, well done. Not sure I could do it!
Well done! it's nice to hear good things and how well people are doing. Stuff like this should be in the public eye like the news, radio, papers etc etc which can encourge others to go for it.
Very very informative, and I know it's late but congrats on the promotions, guys!
Congratulations to all who were promoted! I'm sure it was well deserved.
Wow!!! Hard work, determination + patience.....
Thanks for this post! i really enjoyed the content.
When I first got to university I was surprised to find out that some of the professors were horrible at teaching! :-( They may be very competant in their field of studies, but it seems like sometimes their ability to pass on their knowledge to others wasn't given much of a look at.
Of course, from what I've seen from these videos that certainly isn't the case at Nottingham! ;)
Congratulations to all of you !
This video was quite good, and I hope it helps develope the standard worldwide. Having taught at large for years, it always sad how many students are given no understanding of the educative process.
Oh dear, that post-doc trap sounds scary. Why didn't they go into more detail on how to avoid that! Just "you're in trouble", great.
He also implied the more post-docs you end up doing, the worse it gets. Surely having to do more post-docs on your way up the ladder couldn't hurt in of itself, as long as you didn't do poor research?
The One Yeah. I'm just finishing my Masters, and I'm having to really decide where in the world and in what exact area of nonlinear optics or laser tech I'm going to apply for a PhD in. It's too much to think about. Almost wish I had an agent, hahahah.
University of Rochester is well known for optics. University of Colorado Boulder is well known for Atomic, Molecular, and Optical Physics. But every big university should have research groups in most major categories of research. I sort of let fate influence my decision. I was told I should choose the school that I am are willing to live in for years, and that what specifically you do in research comes secondary. I chose the University of Maryland College Park because it was more metropolitan (near DC) among the two universities :( that I got accepted to. I'm hoping to take advantage of my 1st year lab rotations to get some breadth and exposure, but ultimately, I will probably work in the field of ultrafast lasers.
@@underpowerjet Weird that they don't desire it. You can do interdisciplinary research after that. That's very valuable!
Excellent information, no-one has ever explained this to me before.
this is an insanely good video, it clearly explains the path to becoming a professor and how much you actually have to work in order to get into a position like that. look out world you'll be seeing a new professor soon enough!
What are you doing now.... Its been 8 years?
I just started my first semester as a phd student. This video puts a brake on my desire to pursue a career in academia.
Where you at now?
Must be nice to have professors who actually know the material they teach.
Subjective….. there’s always someone in a class who can’t stand the professor.
Thanks. Comforting video.
I'm 18 turning 19. Will be finishing my first year of university soon. I already have some ideas of what to do research in. Long way ahead will get there.
It sounds impossible but it depends how good you are at a subject. Gifted people are frustrated by the amount of time it takes and get very angry that they are being held back and wasted by the system.
i think its a serious shortcoming of universities to not explain this stuff. I am in my last year of a biology degree, and it basically takes me picking the brains of my tutors and professors duing labs to get answers about career paths, and basic things like what tenure is. There really should be a webpage or a lecture where they talk about all the career related things.
the formal time is 3 years. but it depends on your subject and research. if you doing researching in chemistry and stuff you might need more time because of the experiments. it also depends on if you have funding. if you do and it is for 3 years usually people stick to that period of 3 years because they do not have the money to fund themselves for more years. so an average time i would say is 3 to 5 years (there are exceptions to this however)
3:24... "Lecturer, what I call the first grown up job in academia"... which you might get by your mid 30s...
It turns out that after 10-15 years of training, 90-95% of postdocs are simply discarded... despite being the principal agents involved in research (lecturers usually have to divide their time between writing papers, lecturing, and applying for grants, rarely stepping into the lab...)
A pretty shocking way to run an industry, and curiously relatively recent. I have met many retired professors who got their first 'grown up job' after their masters degree at age 23-24.
I know in the USA that at some junior colleges you can teach with a masters. And even other non-"junior" colleges will sometimes give teaching jobs to people with masters. It all depends.
Basically it's publish or perish. To get an entry level assistant prof you need some pubs and conference proceedings. The exception is at a teaching college but for the most part those pay less than tenure track.
Overall pay is less but per hour break down is much more. Teach class, office hours, a few commitee meetings every so often, and youre done. No evenings, late hours, or weekends, and summer terms off.
This is depressing. It just takes so long...
Thank you for the info.
I want to be a professor, getting there sounds hard, but it is worth it.
sheesh...I want to be a professor and do research on the side but this is such an arduous process, I don’t know how they do it.
I always wondered why I have some professors that are in their late 70’s still teaching and now I know why - it takes forever to just earn the title of professor!
It's my goal to be a research professor in chemistry. I hope I make it this far.
Hey, 3 Years later I’m about to graduate with a bachelors in biochemistry. I’m about to pursue a Master’s in bioinformatics. I don’t want to be a chemistry professor anymore
AtomSmashingMachine why not?
thanks for the update! Im also pursuing Masters.
@@AtomSmashingMachine nice
Update? :D
brilliant video
Congrats to all.
I've never even thought about this, very interesting video.
Thanks for this video👍😊
I loved the "easy" steps.
Thank you
@Tactic11 Not necessarily: john nash received a doctorate on a 28 page thesis (but then again he did won the nobel prize partly due to that paper...). So less likely but possible nonetheless.
What I got from this video is that the 50-500 page thesis is the easy part.
from what I know, this step is not that bad actually. You just cut and paste the results that you have been working on for the past 4 years. The rest is just a motivation for the reader in the form of a historical introduction and possible applications, so writing the thesis isn't that bad. The hard part, and it depends mostly on the level of assholeness/professionalism of your advisor, is coming up with the results.
I love it. Thanks my sir
hmm it almost feels like it would be easier to become a doctor..
Very informative!
wow this'll definately help me to know how become a proffessor one day great vid!
Great video. Some of us started late...we might not become professors till we retire.
5:30 probably the most beautiful thing ive ever heard
LOOK FOR MY COMMENT IN 25 YEARS WEN AM A PROFESSOR
LOL YOU BETTER COME BACK AND COMMENT
YEE INDEED, BEST OF LUCK
I'll be waiting as well
Best of luck mon ami, I also plan to become one, but I don't know
go for it!
Professors are on the top of the food chain when it comes to the knowledge of the world.
9:30 That has GOT to be the longest damn flight in the history of aviation!
awssssooommmeeee video. it taught me soo much
thanks :)
intresting to hear how that's actually done. I didn't realize that "Professor" wasn't just the name they gave to any collage staff teaching. I went to a tech collage, the term was not used.
Whether I'd bother doing that myself? Ehhhh, not my calling. Though, most of my areas of interest and/or expertise are more aptitude-oriented then academically oriented (I took computer programming and networks. A gifted non-grad who's got work in the field will be the first hired. Mainly because they can pay 'em less)
Do you use graduate students to teach classes like we do in the USA?
Does anyone know the analogous process in the US? As I recall, the titles were bachelor's degree, master's, PhD, then post-doc, associate prof, assistant prof, full prof. I don't recall the lecturer steps.
This applies to scientists. The Postdoc scenario is less common in Humanities....thought that also means the PhD takes longer...as you're expected to publish a significant amount of original research on your own without corporate authorship...by the time you go out on the job market.
There are at my university (manchester) but then it is reknowned internationally (although I thought many were). We have a lot of chinese lecturers and asians and a few fins too.
What does everything think about your highschool records affecting your chances at a professorship? Should your pre-undergraduate academic record be impressive?
Some people think you must have a phd to be a professor and some are asking do you need a phd to be a professor. First of all, between these two, getting a phd is the easy part. Secondly, no, actually you don't need a phd to become a professor even at a prestigious university, but those appointments are quite rare. You need to have a very distinguished career. To get a famous director to teach film studies, a former president to teach politics, a former Fortune 500 CEO to teach business, etc, a university would appoint them as full professors. For eg, Tim Berners-Lee is apparent a professor of computer science at both Oxford and MIT and as far as I can find he doesn't have an earned phd.
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Greetings and best wishes from South Africa
Stop killing white people.
The longest essay I've had to write is 500 words, and I'm going into grade 12 this September. I certainly can write a fairly long thesis, but I do agree that the schools are not properly preparing us for university.
It’s been 8 years since you commented. Would you mind if you explained what you pursued?
I hope this changes by the time I get there.
..pleased someone does the job because they like it, I like what they pass on to us.
Great inspiration to aspiring academics. had the pleasure of interacting with Pete Licence during his India visit. He is bound to contribute to science in a big way in times to come. best wishes Dr.Ramasawmy Gopalan CChem FRSC , India
almost done 2nd year mech eng. wow I've got a long way to go xP
Nice guys. Clearly deserve it.
What I think people in the comments are missing is that yes, it's a long road with a lot of steps, but if you're passionate about it then all the steps in between should be worthwhile to you. If you view the road to professor as the longest internship ever then it's not the right work for you.
what du you have to do if i want to be part of a group directed y a proessor and helping at reserches
One of my A levels was 120 pages for half the grade of the subject, so 50-500 for a PhD isn't too bad.
This video really reminded me why I hated my experience at university so much though. I don't know why anyone would want to stay there long enough to become a professor.
so what ur sayin is i should start writing the 500 pages now
Trevor MUA how far?
wait what does a physical biochemist do and what lines of research can they peruse ?
Aww, who made the cute drawing of flowers and hearts in the background? =D
Ya i know that, that's what i said. You said that the universities must open their doors to the ordinary public, which implied that they were shutting ordinary people out.
In fact the problem lies in the secondary schools, universities are just as open, if not more so, as they used to be.
Sir book kon c Leni h or study Kaha se start kru history net k liye Delhi se krni h pH.d
Turn up your volume.
I'm a postgraduate student studying towards BEd Honours degree, my goal is to obtain a PHD before reaching 35 years.
I hope you achieve your dreams 😊
I've had Lecturers in economics courses who were still PhD students, due to there being a shortage of Econ professors at my university. But is it common for PhD students to teach a class of 100 people elsewhere?
How do you decide what to research?
Find a problem and try to solve it
My entomology professor recently told me that for him becoming a professor was a great career choice but today, as he is about to retire and I am about to start my career, things have changed. He practically begged me to not attempt his career path because it is not what it used to be. I would basically be a slave with with no recognition and poor salary only to be fired at a moments notice because of budget cuts. The age of the wealthy tenured professor is over for my generation.
i stand corrected then. I always thought I saw job postings from small colleges looking for "professor" positions and only needing a masters, but I guess I'm just remembering wrong.
setboy1 My understanding is that it varies greatly from university to university
well I have just finished my Masters thesis, going to move forward to a Ph.D hopefully and after that.... well, you watched the video.
NebulousFound How’s it going?
YOU NEED TO HAVE FRIENDS IN THE SEARCH COMMITTEE
could anyone explain in a bit more detail what the fellowship is?/
research fellowship is typically a position where you sign up to a university as an employee working on research as part of a group with a specific focus. post doc and fellowship are not mandatory in my experience but they help a lot if you are looking to become a lecturer. with some luck and if your PhD is in a field that a university is interested in, you may jump to lectureship immediately.
In many universities, you can become a teaching assistant or research assistant which brings in a stipend that funds your education and living expenses. The funding comes either from the department or from the professor's grant of whom you are doing research for.
A fellowship is money from a different source, and usually the stipulations for a fellowship doesn't nearly involve the type of time commitment as a research assistantship. This would allow you to not have to be a TA and not have to draw money from the professor's grant, which could potentially free up time on your end, and the professor's grant money - that would have been used to pay for your RA stipend - could be used for other purposes (i.e. purchasing lab equipment).
A fellowship is essentially free money with some minor stipulations. Of course, you would have to be 1) eligible for it 2) apply and be selected for it. There are different fellowships for different purposes, like fellowships that support people in specific fields, fellowships that support people of certain demographics, fellowships that support people in certain stages of their education, fellowships that support people with specific career interests. The application process involves writing a personal statement and getting letters of recommendations (usually 3).
And I thought it would be so easy!!
If student learning skills have not been developed by high school then it is unlikely that they can survive academic testing system at university level. To be successful at university level students must possess following s skills:
Writing & Language Skills, Mathematical skills, IT Skills and interest and experience of the subject area.
So where is the shortcut?
some on please tell me whats the name of the Professor that travel around the world to make music with all kinds of native Indian tribes .
I want to be like Prof Poliakoff (especially his hair). Unfortunately, I began to lose my hair in my first year. Now in my second year, more hair fell down. I still love chemistry, even though i don't and won't have that buckyball hair... -.-
what if i want to be a molecular genetics professor?
Some people are just hitting the ball, running, dancing, kicking the ball, and become Sir. OK they really are the master in their sport and contribute to the economy through their advertising income, but do they contribute in the society more than these researchers?