Why are Apple Vision Pros Breaking?

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  • @yamyam263
    @yamyam263 11 місяців тому +884

    It is so surreal to me that a $3,499 can be that fragile in such a goofy way

    • @paristo
      @paristo 11 місяців тому +58

      JerryRigEverything did excellent testing for the device, it is ridiculously horrible by the design and engineering standpoint.

    • @Stanley-px3bt
      @Stanley-px3bt 11 місяців тому +39

      It's a FEATURE.

    • @MP-vc4nu
      @MP-vc4nu 11 місяців тому +13

      Actually EU is asking Apple to pay $2 billions fine, so they’re breaking your vision pros on purpose to force you buy new ones to pay their fines 😢

    • @yourmomsboyfriend3337
      @yourmomsboyfriend3337 11 місяців тому +33

      @@paristothe engineering is “ridiculously horrible”? I would love to see your expert design for putting all of that hardware into such a small form factor that looks more sleek. Feel free to blow all of us away.

    • @highpraise-highcritic
      @highpraise-highcritic 11 місяців тому +4

      @@MP-vc4nu This is such a silly idea ...

  • @UCKY5
    @UCKY5 11 місяців тому +131

    If the air intake is on the bottom, isn't that precisely why the crack might start there?
    The rest of the device gradually heats up, but the area directly around the air intake would be colder and thus not expand at the same rate.

    • @zaitchnkolior6614
      @zaitchnkolior6614 11 місяців тому +18

      I think you cracked the case

    • @nathanthegreathan6464
      @nathanthegreathan6464 11 місяців тому +1

      @@zaitchnkolior6614 Nice, lol

    • @craigjamroz7585
      @craigjamroz7585 11 місяців тому +4

      that is EXACTLY what I was thinking! 🤓👍

    • @unloveableandre
      @unloveableandre 11 місяців тому +3

      imagine working 6 years on a product and failing the basics... so, it's not a failure

    • @Mr.Water3
      @Mr.Water3 10 місяців тому

      Yea bro I think ur actually right

  • @FishyFelix
    @FishyFelix 11 місяців тому +29

    Temperature differential on a glass plastic screen sandwich that is under curvature stress. Just like on car windshield and you get a rock chip near the defroster vents. Your windshield will crack as soon as you turn on the defroster on a cold winter's day. Top of the windshield is freezing cold, but the bottom is warmed.

    • @triax7006
      @triax7006 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeh that is why ppl should not use hot liquid to defrost windscreens, the water can be warm but it is the temp differential that will cause stress & for it to crack or even shatter.

    • @Alley-dw2fl
      @Alley-dw2fl 10 місяців тому

      If the glass layer wasn't properly annealed after it was formed, it would eventually crack.

  • @mb-ost
    @mb-ost 11 місяців тому +12

    Might be because there is a piece of metal between both sides of the glass(the nose bridge) and metal expands when heated, so it makes sense that it would expand pushing both sides apart causing it to crack right down the middle

    • @manbok2035
      @manbok2035 11 місяців тому +2

      Most logical answer. Would think Apple would have tested the product. There is no way this did not happen during testing. May be on purpose for more marketing.

  • @kajalee4836
    @kajalee4836 11 місяців тому +10

    Maybe the cracking is caused by the different thermal expansion of glass and aluminium. That’s why concrete is used only with steel because they have the same thermal expansion coefficient.

  • @Droning-ON
    @Droning-ON 11 місяців тому +3

    Good for you guys, the video that other paid shill reviewers (like iJustine) will never put out there!

  • @maxieroo629
    @maxieroo629 11 місяців тому +34

    Well, it could just be heat from a standby bug while the vents are covered and in the case, I think the major part everyone is ignoring is that (if you’re using the solo knit band) do you have to have adequate pressure to keep it on your face. That is coming from both sides. Think about where that pressure might be pulling the glass back and where that might create a weak point… right in the center of the front glsss

  • @jpolish420
    @jpolish420 11 місяців тому +56

    Listening to any defense of this is gross.

    • @shyshy1894
      @shyshy1894 10 місяців тому +3

      Right. Apple is a huge company. I know they’ve got to have plenty of engineers and designers who must’ve saw this coming.

    • @redmed10
      @redmed10 9 місяців тому +1

      Apple products are beyond criticism for apple fanboys.

  • @the_overflow
    @the_overflow 11 місяців тому +8

    Quite possibly temperature, they are combining metal and plastic like that, just carrying that outside in freezing conditions and coming in and putting it on would be huge temperature gradient

  • @AngryApple
    @AngryApple 11 місяців тому +318

    It's almost as if Glass in the front was a stupid idea

    • @3dNikita
      @3dNikita 11 місяців тому +24

      It looks "cool" so fans can buy it and tell everyone how its ridiculous price is totally justified

    • @vidal9747
      @vidal9747 11 місяців тому +29

      ​@@3dNikitathe glass has a pollimer layer above it. So it is very scratch prone. What was the point of using glas if that was the case? Stupid wasted potential.

    • @paristo
      @paristo 11 місяців тому

      @@vidal9747 Apple should have made the front from a hardened surface than level 2 only. It would have withstanded scratches better. But the shape alone is a problem, what is result of bad designing.
      Apple should have at least made the front easily pop out with a two button presses or something, and sell cheaply the front piece for like $ 40-50. This way user could swap it when enough damaged.
      Just better, forget the fake eyes and make the front a actual proper material. But then people would understand that Apple Vision is just expensive AR product at the moment.

    • @unloveableandre
      @unloveableandre 11 місяців тому +7

      if it was glass... plastic, and very thin layer of glass in the middle. If it was real glass, one piece, all over, it would be way more tough

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 11 місяців тому +7

      @@unloveableandre is laminated glass or is your car windshield not glass?
      Its stupid that the plastic Layer is on the outside though

  • @ciscorey6520
    @ciscorey6520 11 місяців тому +127

    11:34 "this looks gross to hold" 😂

    • @Ashok_Francis
      @Ashok_Francis 11 місяців тому +1

      That's what she said?😬

    • @Miggymini
      @Miggymini 10 місяців тому +1

      A little prissy for him to say

  • @fmphotooffice5513
    @fmphotooffice5513 10 місяців тому

    It makes sense it starts from the bottom . The top gets warm from the exhaust heat and expands slowly. The colder bottom, at the "pinch point" no less, gets stressed from the expansion at the top, until the glass fails.

  • @ROVideos
    @ROVideos 11 місяців тому +9

    Started from the bottom was said so many times that I'm glad someone said "now it's here" or else I was not going to be able to sleep tonight.

    • @GK-ee7mw
      @GK-ee7mw 11 місяців тому +3

      I was trying to get what they meant by that joke and now I get it lol. That’s a good one

  • @polofunk
    @polofunk 11 місяців тому +4

    APPLE going to say it's y'all fault 😂😂

  • @CasualViewer-t4f
    @CasualViewer-t4f 11 місяців тому +76

    First gen product baby!

    • @diogocoelho3450
      @diogocoelho3450 11 місяців тому +17

      3500$ first gen only in apple there are years of vr glasses in production with no such issues.

    • @gab1159
      @gab1159 11 місяців тому +7

      Stubborn engineers that are too prideful to look at what the other VR manufacturers have been doing for the past 15 years. It's embarrassing for Apple.

    • @natedoggschu
      @natedoggschu 11 місяців тому

      ​@@gab1159 Apple banned developers from using Chat GPT so they have a sense of uniqueness with their products

    • @abttt5428
      @abttt5428 11 місяців тому +1

      Says the gut who can't afford it 🤣🤣

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 11 місяців тому

      Apple probably did it on purpose. If they charge hundreds of dollars to replace it then they did it on purpose.

  • @AlansWay3DPrinting
    @AlansWay3DPrinting 11 місяців тому +1

    The nose curve is a very tight radius so it suffer from stress concentration. The sharper the inside radius of a material, the worse the stress concentration and fatigueing (thermal expansion cycles are a great source of these) over time will cause cracking and breaking. This issue is precisely why airplane windows have very rounded corners and not as square as in the past (de Havilland Comet distruxtions in the 1950s).

  • @XarocDrocass
    @XarocDrocass 11 місяців тому +92

    My question is: Do you think this is serious enough that UA-camrs and other promoters should send the word to the public, "Don't buy Vision Pro until Apple addresses this" to force Apple to make a move, or at least address those with existing cracks who might be falling through the gaps, or don't qualify for exchange/refund.

    • @Ra-Hul-K
      @Ra-Hul-K 11 місяців тому +47

      no youtuber is asking anyone to buy these in the first place 😂

    • @bemery1979
      @bemery1979 11 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely agree with you

    • @I-Libertine
      @I-Libertine 11 місяців тому +7

      If you tubers can rave about it (knowing the cost and the limited real world appeal), I think it's unrealistic to expect them to be honest about a crack in it.

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh 11 місяців тому +2

      Nah who gives a shit about anyone that can drop $3700 on useless shit

    • @SR1Records
      @SR1Records 11 місяців тому +4

      99% of UA-camrs who have this device were gifted the devices from Apple so I *highly* doubt they will say a single bad word about it!

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns 11 місяців тому +2

    7:45 The nose arch is probably causing a higher stress concentration in that area. Wine bottle divots and wine glass rims are continuous symmetric shapes which add strength because of their continuity, which distributes stress uniformly. Notches are a different story--they tend to produce stress concentrations.
    My guess is that this is a result of coefficient of thermal expansion mismatch between the aluminum and glass, combined with heat. Glass and aluminum do not expand the same amount for a given change in temperature, and this is a fairly fragile contoured piece of glass bonded to an aluminum frame. This is a much worse scenario than a phone screen, because a phone screen is a flat piece of glass and the thermal expansion produces in-plane stresses. The shape of the VP, however, will produce tensile and bending stresses in the glass as that expansion/contraction happens.

  • @barrydaugherty5528
    @barrydaugherty5528 11 місяців тому +13

    I’m curious to hear if people who have the crack use the original headset. The original headset pulls very hard on both sides. I wonder if that along with the heat others are mentioning could be enough to cause the crack. The secondary headset distributes the weight so that the back strap doesn’t have to be as tight. Just a thought

    • @paristo
      @paristo 11 місяців тому +1

      Secondary and original?

    • @marcsequence
      @marcsequence 11 місяців тому

      @@paristo same, wat? 0.o

    • @AWSVids
      @AWSVids 11 місяців тому

      @@paristo It comes with two different types of head straps. One that is just around the back of the head, which is the big elastic "cool looking" one. Then there's another head strap that has one that goes over top of the head. That one distributes the weight more evenly and holds it up more gently, whereas the "original" back of the head one relies almost entirely on pulling the device against your face. It pulls from the sides, while the middle of the device presses against your nose and forehead. This is gonna bend the device against your face. Crack!

  • @Adamdunnart
    @Adamdunnart 11 місяців тому +3

    the crack coming majority from the bottom and the air intake there as well cooling that lower half of the glass. the top of the glass is warm and that can cause extra stress on the bridge of the nose. add in what yall said about the lidar could that be heating the glass in a very small space while surrounded by air cooled glass. they would need stuff like those little black dots around your cars windshield to dissipate the differences in temp across the glass.

  • @ZaneEckols
    @ZaneEckols 11 місяців тому +37

    Most of the broken ones I've seen have been from people that put the Vision Pro in the case while they're charging the battery. It makes sense to me that they just don't shut down all the way, get too hot, and the glass cracks at its weakest and most complex point. It's also possible the glass is not perfectly shaped for the frame and just has too much stress in the center, made worse by the fact that it's only adhered to the edges and nothing else.

    • @BunkerSquirrel
      @BunkerSquirrel 11 місяців тому +4

      Doesn't make sense to me at all. If the headset if off your head it shouldn't be running enough to generate that kind of heat.

    • @maher.k22
      @maher.k22 11 місяців тому

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they say the Vision Pro has no battery?

    • @deekyevans5235
      @deekyevans5235 11 місяців тому

      also the vision Pro is not glass at the front

    • @LeeMooEez
      @LeeMooEez 11 місяців тому +1

      @@deekyevans5235it’s glass LOL..laminated with plastic

    • @LeeMooEez
      @LeeMooEez 11 місяців тому

      Isn’t the battery detachable? And why would they put it in the case while charging when they can detach the cable?🤔

  • @NotGarrettG
    @NotGarrettG 11 місяців тому +1

    maybe Apple knew the limits and is just okay with people coming in for services. More dough.
    They’re not gonna say “the new Apple Vision Pro is the most fragile thing ever”

  • @TechMyLifeVideo
    @TechMyLifeVideo 11 місяців тому +12

    In Australia that is an easy replacement under consumer law. It seems like the layer of glass which is covered by a plastic film, was mad of 2 pieces. Maybe this is why it needed a plastic film on the outside (unlike Apple). It seems like the join is cracking.

  • @bobbobo2568
    @bobbobo2568 11 місяців тому +15

    Wait is there no warranty in the US? In Germany you have 1 year of free warranty. Also in the first 6 months apple would even need to prove that the customer damaged it if they didnt want to replace it for free.
    Edit: Its actually 2 years in the EU. Not just 1 year

    • @icephoenix5466
      @icephoenix5466 11 місяців тому +1

      Wasnt there a two year mandatory manufacturer guarantee?

    • @icephoenix5466
      @icephoenix5466 11 місяців тому +3

      Eine Begründung oder Rechtfertigung durch den Verbraucher ist nicht erforderlich. Laut EU-Recht hat der Verbraucher außerdem Anspruch auf eine mindestens 2-jährige Gewährleistung (gesetzliche Garantie), die ihn schützt, wenn Waren fehlerhaft sind oder nicht die in der Werbung beschriebenen Eigenschaften aufweisen.

    • @fluffyfetlocks
      @fluffyfetlocks 11 місяців тому +1

      In NZ a product must last a “reasonable” amount of time. You can often argue that you’d expect products like this to last atleast 3-5 years

    • @Wargasm54
      @Wargasm54 11 місяців тому

      That’s why they aren’t selling it in Europe 😂

    • @radfordra
      @radfordra 11 місяців тому +2

      There is warranty act here in the USA that gives consumers a lot of protections however you would have to fight apple lawyers in court to make them honor it. The warranty act also makes warranty void if removed stickers illegal. The onus is on the company to prove that you taking it apart caused the damage. This crack looks like a hardware defect. Probably would be covered.
      I'm not a lawyer and I'm most certainly not your lawyer if you choose to follow this advice.

  • @josephatkinson5693
    @josephatkinson5693 11 місяців тому +4

    Woahh they got another brother✊🏾

  • @marquisethomas5611
    @marquisethomas5611 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey apple this is what happens when you take a chance to push the boundaries of tech, now say sorry to samsung

  • @spent808
    @spent808 11 місяців тому +31

    Can you over tighten the headband?

    • @crimsondragon95
      @crimsondragon95 11 місяців тому +1

      No it reaches a maximum tightness

    • @Riley_Christian
      @Riley_Christian 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@crimsondragon95 but if you have a narrow face there will be more pressure in the center

  • @occipita_ca
    @occipita_ca 11 місяців тому +1

    the aluminum expanding slightly and cracking the glass makes the most sense to me. and it might not even be the software turning off properly. i could just be the temperature of where the user is versus where the vision pro was manufactured.

  • @funnystone64
    @funnystone64 11 місяців тому +120

    Crazy to see how MKBHD is referencing the Gizmodo article which is referencing my cracked AVP lol

    • @paristo
      @paristo 11 місяців тому +5

      Do you know how did your AVP crack?
      Was it in use?
      What was the temperature?
      Were you sweating?
      Was it while transporting it?

    • @unusuario5173
      @unusuario5173 11 місяців тому +4

      Yeah.
      Crazy how he gets almost 90K in a random video (this one).
      While you get 29 likes pointing it out...
      I forgot: lol?

    • @tapetwo7115
      @tapetwo7115 11 місяців тому +9

      congrats your story make him several thousand dollars which cost you over $3500 :(

    • @funnystone64
      @funnystone64 11 місяців тому

      @@tapetwo7115 I got a replacement for free.

    • @funnystone64
      @funnystone64 11 місяців тому +2

      @@paristo room temp and no for everything else.

  • @charlesgillespie5049
    @charlesgillespie5049 11 місяців тому +1

    My guess is that the crack is caused from over tightening the head strap. The weight makes it uncomfortable in an attempt to find comfort you over tighten the strap. The thinnest part of the frame where it will bend from this lines up with where cracks at happening.

  • @apclaudiu
    @apclaudiu 11 місяців тому +39

    just use polarized glasses to look for tension

  • @BaldAndCurious
    @BaldAndCurious 10 місяців тому

    temperature changes and differential expansion? frame or glass warping? regards to design, yeah, there's probably an undiscovered stress point somewhere because of the shape and/or manufacturing process (reminds me of prince rupert's drops)

  • @ScottsReviews
    @ScottsReviews 11 місяців тому +5

    Don’t forget about the cracked MacBook Air screens. That Apple ignores.

  • @instuller
    @instuller 11 місяців тому

    I commented in a Reddit thread...if you read through the manual, theres some conflict... in one part it says it's OK to leave the battery cord connected to the headset when you're not using it. And another part, it says it generates heat and not to block the vents. And another part it says to make sure the unit is covered and protected basically when not in use. And other things like this that I saw. I don't think they realize that with the power cord connected, it does background activities, maybe like iCloud sync, etc. With the cover on its blocking the vents. so when you leave the battery cord hooked up to it and it's doing background events while you're not using it, and the covers on and the vents are choked… There's your heat buildup and your glass crack. ( I'm not even talking about the battery hooked to the headset AND charging the battery either... although if some people are doing that with a power brick inside the case, there's even more heat for you.)

  • @H.A.R.D.B.O.I.L.E.D
    @H.A.R.D.B.O.I.L.E.D 11 місяців тому +7

    8:00 WRONG, here's how it works: Imagine a circle, it easier to break out from inside the circle but harder to break into the circle. That's how curved reinforcement work and that's why that middle part of vision pro is structural weakness

    • @kurtclark8560
      @kurtclark8560 11 місяців тому

      What you are saying is true for pressure containment. Inside force causes tension, outside force causes compression. However, a flat plane is significantly less stiff than a curved plan, and significantly more susceptible to bending that results in breakage.

  • @IEA_455
    @IEA_455 11 місяців тому +1

    In Canada the spigen zero one case was only $20 and it’s amazing. Strongest MagSafe and protects the phone pretty good.

  • @damonguzman
    @damonguzman 11 місяців тому +8

    I loved how knowledgeable Ellis was on the glass stuff.

    • @wolfcryjr
      @wolfcryjr 11 місяців тому +2

      All of his conjecture was wrong tho? Unless this comment was sarcastic and it went over my head lol

    • @H.A.R.D.B.O.I.L.E.D
      @H.A.R.D.B.O.I.L.E.D 11 місяців тому +2

      @@wolfcryjr yeah he got the glass part wrong

  • @DoeDoeJohn
    @DoeDoeJohn 11 місяців тому

    A bent piece of glass in that way will be under incredible tension, while being incredible brittle. Then, some thermal difference can reasonably lead to cracking, because the stress has nowhere to go.

  • @therealjamesmccrary
    @therealjamesmccrary 11 місяців тому +3

    Few people are having this issue. And I really question what in the world they are doing to make it happen.

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen 11 місяців тому

    There's plastic on top of the glass, so they might as well have made it fully plastic and prevent the cracks or fully glass and prevent if from scratching at a level 3 with deeper grooves at level 4, which is 3 whole levels below glass out of a total of 10 levels.

  • @yaughl
    @yaughl 11 місяців тому +44

    I learned the difference between shepherds pie and cottage pie from a Gordon Ramsay Kitchen Nightmares episode 😂

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing 10 місяців тому +1

    Also Aluminum is a huge heatsink and right next to the glass then setting it down how ever softly will always put some stress right where we are seeing the cracks. Glass was just a bad idea in this instance of material combination.

  • @RemiLila
    @RemiLila 11 місяців тому +10

    Wait a minute... A brother in there with y'all now? Shiiiiid lemme start watching again.

  • @octorokpie
    @octorokpie 11 місяців тому +1

    Not sure if Marques is out of touch on phone cases, or it's an iPhone thing... $15 is like the sweet spot for a simple black or solid color, rubber protective case that's fine to hold, good button feel, and won't degrade quickly. Got one right next to me that I used actively for two years, and has been on the phone through various use for another three. Ringke on an Xperia xz2.

  • @ssmytheYT
    @ssmytheYT 11 місяців тому +14

    I wonder if one of the headbands are pulling the glass more than was intended. Are the cracks showing up more on one headband type than the other? Maybe the over the top of the head headband was rushed before testing could reveal this issue. Maybe the amount people are tightening the headband is too much?

    • @predatron9907
      @predatron9907 11 місяців тому +4

      Thats what I was thinking too. Seems like people overtighten the strap due to the weight causing stress right in the middle. That plus heat from extended use seems plausible.

    • @Riley_Christian
      @Riley_Christian 11 місяців тому

      ​@@predatron9907 also if you have a narrow face, more pressure in the center would give more room for it to bend. It's almost like brittle glass and soft metal was a dumb combination that only "looks cool" 😑

  • @bumblewyn
    @bumblewyn 11 місяців тому +1

    I've always used a Tech21 case with my iPhone and they aged great. The only issue I had was an old one that kind of started to decompose in a drawer, but that was on my old iPhone 5C, so after like 9 years of iPhone protection I don't blame it for giving up.

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. 10 місяців тому

      Why is this relevant to the topic in the slightest regard ?

  • @reubenabela3063
    @reubenabela3063 11 місяців тому +3

    i bet the crack is caused by over tightening while wearing

  • @VaporBaked94
    @VaporBaked94 10 місяців тому

    I've only had my Vision Pro for a few days and I have a feeling I'll be using it most days of the week. I've found it really nice to have my 3D printer status and video feed above the printer itself so I don't have to bend down and open the enclosure(it's placed on a fairly low Ikea lack table). I also used my quest 3 daily for doing homework or zoom calls(audio only)now that I've gone back to school and the AVP has made it much easier to multitask on this. I haven't really watched anything other than UA-cam on it so I'll probably watch a 3D movie later this week when I have free time to use it for playing around and not just productivity.
    I do wholeheartedly believe that this IS NOT for everyone quite yet, the price is one issue but I don't see it as the biggest one. Vision OS seems to be this devices biggest limitation while also being what makes it much better than the Quest 3. It feels limited in the ways that an iPad is. If it happens to work for you it'll be amazing, but if you have to try to make it work for your scenario, it's just not going to.

  • @zohircherifi5616
    @zohircherifi5616 11 місяців тому +13

    Apple's response is : You are using it wrong

  • @little.prince
    @little.prince 11 місяців тому +1

    Nah, I disagree with the case pricing tiers. I’ve never payed more than 17$ for a phone case and they look awesome AND protect my phone very well.

  • @unwrapdontiktok2256
    @unwrapdontiktok2256 11 місяців тому +3

    I own one, and from grabbing it off my face and not being perfect about doing it from the middle, I bet it’s from grabbing it on the side and it twisting from the bottom up while taking it off.

  • @db4a
    @db4a 10 місяців тому

    @Marques: As a black man, it’s really good to see that you’re hiring other skilled and capable brothers to work for and/or with you. Love it! 🤗

  • @HighAcuity
    @HighAcuity 11 місяців тому +3

    When things like this happen, it’s such huge news that I’m honestly dubious about the source.

  • @tinyBIGDOG
    @tinyBIGDOG 10 місяців тому

    It's the heat from using the unit, the quest 2 gets hot at that spot also, so I think it's from getting hot in the case then cracking.

  • @chrismarcic
    @chrismarcic 11 місяців тому +4

    Maybe the crazy shape of it required them to build a glass in two parts and then they used some sort of epoxy to put the two halves together and the epoxy is giving out

  • @bertfarry3793
    @bertfarry3793 11 місяців тому

    I believe the nose area shape is causing internal stress on the glass the sharp bends by the nose may be to much for some glass where the glass structure is not as stable

  • @GamerSlayer5000
    @GamerSlayer5000 11 місяців тому +16

    Meanwhile you can literally throw a Meta Quest headset in a washing machine without having any noticeable damage 😂

  • @coffeebuticed
    @coffeebuticed 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't think Marques has ever seen a $15 hard plastic case if he can't comprehend a cheap phone case looking good.

    • @BelaPuma
      @BelaPuma 11 місяців тому +1

      It's cuz he's out of touch with reality

  • @davidpepin3017
    @davidpepin3017 11 місяців тому +14

    I feel like in 2024, it's refreshing to see something as straight as that break line.

  • @grahammiller3873
    @grahammiller3873 11 місяців тому

    Looks like it's probably not a single piece of glass, but two pieces fused together. Regular thermal expansion and compression might be stressing the joint where the pieces are fused, and causing it to fail, exposing where the two pieces were joined.

  • @perinzequi
    @perinzequi 11 місяців тому +5

    JerryRigEverything show how fragile those fake glass are.

    • @CircuitrinosOfficial
      @CircuitrinosOfficial 11 місяців тому +1

      He said it was real glass with a plastic layer on it.
      What are you talking about?

  • @rocketmunkey1
    @rocketmunkey1 11 місяців тому +1

    0:30 So in short its a novelty device, that you don't use, and you will only use it for short periods, as and when a new novelty piece of software comes along, to make it novel for a short while longer until that novelty wears off too.

  • @zachmoyer1849
    @zachmoyer1849 11 місяців тому +27

    lol marques just casually saying that he and his company no longer use 7k dollars worth of headsets for anything must be nice.

    • @QuinnKallisti
      @QuinnKallisti 11 місяців тому +7

      He runs a company that reviews tech though? Tax write off. significantly reducing his taxable income, yes, he still has to pay a portion of the product cost, but it A) earned him money B) constitutes savings on his tax bill.

    • @Drenwickification
      @Drenwickification 11 місяців тому +8

      7k for equipment is a very small expense for a channel of his size. Do you not realise how much revenue big UA-cam channels generate? Did you not notice how many people he employs or something? LTT employs like dozens of people. That must be nice, I guess?

    • @dccd3237
      @dccd3237 11 місяців тому

      They either write-off as expense if purchased, or return to Apple if “loaned” for review purposes. Saw these at an Apple Store and just can’t imagine widescale use or interest. I do think for disabled market this could be very helpful with some tweaks.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 11 місяців тому

      He did what was effectively a 2 part video, the first showing off a motion control camera rig that even movie studios only rent because it's so expensive, and the second was a studio tour a bit later including his one that he bought after that video. 7 grand worth of consumer electronics is a drop in the bucket, particularly considering that his business is about consumer electronics

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 11 місяців тому

      Add up all the time he's spent making videos and you'll see all the work he's put into his company. It's not as if anything was handed to him without him working for it.

  • @MASTERPPA
    @MASTERPPA 10 місяців тому

    Looks like a temp or stress crack where the center moldings is.. The center is not as wide, so any stress gets put dead center .. This is a design issue with the shaping of the glass.

  • @haybail7618
    @haybail7618 11 місяців тому +4

    the new guy looks like marques brownlee at home

  • @Ascelot
    @Ascelot 10 місяців тому

    Wonder if its cracking due to the increase in pressure when pressed against someone head and device bends/flexes when tightening it to get a snug fit.

  • @chutcentral
    @chutcentral 11 місяців тому +4

    Can't trust MKBHD due to his relationship with Apple. He's Apple's golden boy. Being mentioned in Apple's promotional event is Marques' wet dream, he would never do anything to jeopardize that.

    • @alexz221
      @alexz221 11 місяців тому

      Yeah i notice that too.

  • @roolark
    @roolark 11 місяців тому

    Still could be caused by heat, even if the crack stops from the bottom. Conside: cool air pulled in from the bottom keeps the bottom cool, while the to heats up and expands. That could cause the cooler glass on the bottom to crack. Temp differential.

  • @hossein.m1912
    @hossein.m1912 11 місяців тому +39

    Nobody care about this vr headset to be honest

    • @NezumiiroGray
      @NezumiiroGray 11 місяців тому +5

      I care more about it's potential. An android competitor would be awesome and AR computing is clearly the future.

    • @GamerSlayer5000
      @GamerSlayer5000 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@NezumiiroGray you know an android based AR competitor already exists right? Meta uses Android for their headsets

    • @gwky
      @gwky 11 місяців тому

      You clicked, you commented, yet you don't care? 🧢

    • @hossein.m1912
      @hossein.m1912 11 місяців тому

      I enjoy watching his videos, that doesn't do anything with headset.

    • @codycherrington2314
      @codycherrington2314 11 місяців тому

      This comment isn’t necessary ever tbh

  • @madzterx
    @madzterx 10 місяців тому

    the external clear cover is plastic, not glass, so it is extremely easy to scratch or break, just check Jerry Rig's durability test video on the Vision Pro

  • @kingdavid1519
    @kingdavid1519 11 місяців тому

    I have a pretty good guess what the issue is if anyone’s figured it out yet.
    My analogy I’m going to use. Regular scuba diving snorkel goggles. Every time you put those on and off your head, it flexes a little bit. It’s a lot easier to see. The outer layer is going to flex the most on the Apple vision pros and the stress of just people putting it on and taking it off a bunch of times put more and more stress on the center of the glass. Kind of like folding a piece of paper 1000 times eventually it will just fall apart in a perfectly straight line.

  • @felixp1718
    @felixp1718 11 місяців тому

    A polarized view of the front panel should expose any weaknesses. Polarization will allow for the thinner, more stressed areas to show in color variations. I suspect that the molding process leaves this center point very thin, allowing for the heat and subtle torsion to cause this issue.

  • @andrewhavard6769
    @andrewhavard6769 11 місяців тому

    Speculation based on what was presented here. If we think it could be from expansion of the frame due to heat, the bottom has more surface area connected to the aluminum than the upper. More expansion due to more material to expand. Also such a sharp deflection to create the nose bridge, let’s think about the aluminum repeatedly pushing on the eye lobes of the glass out and in as it expands and contracts. It could really be the reason if the heat is the source of stress

  • @matthewd7719
    @matthewd7719 11 місяців тому

    People are probably putting it on and pressing each side equally hard to get a good seal and this creates pressure in the center part of the glass and you get an even crack.

  • @IFearlessINinja
    @IFearlessINinja 11 місяців тому

    Curve = stress concentration which makes it fatigue faster. It might add to impact strength depending on the setup, but subtracts from fatigue strength all else equal

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 11 місяців тому +1

    5:25 The MKBHD cope is too real.

  • @giorgosplokamakis3506
    @giorgosplokamakis3506 11 місяців тому +1

    I guess that the crack has to do with the stress imposed on the headset while people tighten the grip against their face. Maybe this caused the headset to bend on either side against the vertical line between their forehead and their nose.

  • @kniffin719
    @kniffin719 11 місяців тому

    I wonder if it would be the stress of the head strap pulling on both sides when it's on and then releasing when it's off. And that repeated tension stress and release may be it.

  • @Rokmononov
    @Rokmononov 11 місяців тому

    It never ceases to amaze me how little some professional tech youtubers/podcasters actually understand about like...the very barebones fundamentals of how things work. "Curves are weak! Because what about that one phone that had curved glass, and uhhh IT DUN BROKE!"
    Yes, this shocking insight into the inner workings of the world. I guess flat surfaces are stronk! That's why submarines and airplanes are box-shaped. After all, if round things were so strong, then why did this one product break? Can't possibly be any more depth to that question than that...

  • @suluturnip
    @suluturnip 11 місяців тому

    It’s got to be user applied mechanical force. I wonder if the frame support is distributing that force evenly. Like they built the flex in to allow for when people put it on their face, but they didn’t consider the inflexibility of the glass.

  • @Riley_Christian
    @Riley_Christian 11 місяців тому

    I have a narrow face and even on the quest i had to 3d print a custom face plate... so what i think is theres more pressure in the center, and for me i would tighten the strap a lot more when i had the default one. Considering its glass on aluminum, im sure the frame is bending to some peoples face when they tighten it... seems pretty obvious to me

  • @acacia27
    @acacia27 9 місяців тому

    Similar happened with Quest 1 and Rift S devices, the stress from the manufacturing process is too much that the plastic cracks like this.

  • @zahari_s_stoyanov
    @zahari_s_stoyanov 11 місяців тому

    When you have such a fold(don't compare it to a dome), it's a stress point

  • @Funkteon
    @Funkteon 11 місяців тому

    A likely cause of this issue would be if they've used Polymethyl Methacrylate (PMMA), also known as acrylic or Plexiglas. PMMA is known for its excellent clarity and light transmittance, very similar to glass, making it suitable for applications where clear vision is critical. However, compared to other plastics like Polycarbonate (PC), PMMA is more prone to cracking or breaking upon impact or bending, exhibiting a kind of brittleness similar to glass, especially if it has temperature differentials on either side such as the case of having an OLED display on the inner-facing side and a cooler room or outdoor temperature on the outer-facing side...

  • @Tellmetimothy
    @Tellmetimothy 9 місяців тому

    ‘Your face is holding it wrong’ -Apple 😄😂

  • @Coddad115
    @Coddad115 10 місяців тому

    It's the same with every vr for most ppl you use it for a good while at the start and it ends up collecting dust after a while is what's stopping me from buying the quest 3 I hop into my 2 from time to time but mostly just sits around

  • @abdj3296
    @abdj3296 11 місяців тому

    Great Podcast!! The Boyz only..

  • @magnerwv1
    @magnerwv1 10 місяців тому

    My Vision Pro glass crack happened. It started at the bottom and now keeps going up. Right now it’s not affecting any thing and I live hrs from the store so I am not ready to give it up.

  • @LetsGo-wl5zo
    @LetsGo-wl5zo 11 місяців тому

    Aluminum expands faster than glass. So If the curved glas is directly glued to the Aluminum frame... then it can crack the screen with temperature fluctuations.
    Curved glas can crack faster on a different pressure angel.

  • @TechnicallyTom
    @TechnicallyTom 11 місяців тому

    I don’t think heat alone would cause glass to break. What causes glass to break that is heat related is temperature difference. Perhaps what is causing the Vision Pro to break down the center is a lack of heat in the center compared to the heat directly over the sections that have more heat producing components. This could also be combined with the stress point created by the shape of the panel. A good non destructive test would be to use a FLIR camera to measure temperatures of the panels at different points during usage. I did a demo of the Vision Pro and felt it was suspicious of how I was told to hold them when putting them on. It’s like they knew there were durability issues like this already. The person doing the demo pointed out that they should only be picked up at the bridge of the nose and top. If that was to prevent scratching, picking them up from the corners would work equally well.

  • @StikFlikFPV
    @StikFlikFPV 11 місяців тому

    I think….cranking down on the strap to tighten it is pulling the sides of the unit back and causing some “bending” or “flex” in the middle therefore putting stress on the middle of the glass🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @voidzoid99
    @voidzoid99 11 місяців тому +1

    You know how much a person isn’t into cars when they drop this line: “McLaren has great warranty” 😂

  • @lfbmendes
    @lfbmendes 10 місяців тому

    3d curved glass will be stiffer but also more prone to crack, for the same reason. 2d curved glass (like paper) will be more flexible. Also the nose cut is a stress concentration.

  • @AgentGold-AI
    @AgentGold-AI 11 місяців тому

    00:02 🧐 Crack Gate Discussion
    00:55 📱 Using All iPhone Apps Challenge Mention
    01:47 🔍 Checking for Cracks on Vision Pro
    01:59 🚫 No Crack Found on Our Unit
    02:05 🤔 Vision Pro Crack Gate Theories
    02:07 📸 Pixel 7 Lens Cracking Comparison
    02:36 🛠 Possible Fixes and Customer Reactions
    03:12 📲 Cracked iPhones Usage Reflection
    03:24 🥵 Heat Expansion Crack Theory
    03:44 📍 Crack Location and Potential Causes
    04:05 👀 Apple's Potential Recall and Repair Policies
    04:29 🔧 Design Flaw Versus User Error Debate
    05:06 🚗 McLaren Windshield Crack Parallel
    05:40 🌡 Heat and Case Usage Discussion
    05:47 🆙 Heat Emission Points and Crack Origin
    06:42 📦 Keeping Vision Pro in Case Recommendations
    08:39 🚨 LAR Sensor and Crack Relationship Speculation
    09:17 🤷 No Reported LAR Sensor Functionality Loss
    10:15 📰 Joanna Stern's tech reviews & newsletters
    10:20 😟 Discussion on the aging of Apple's fine woven case
    11:00 💸 Complaints about the cost of Apple cases
    11:38 🤢 Describing how bad the case looks after use
    12:33 👋 Outro with Ellis encouraging subscriptions
    13:07 🥧 Bonus trivia about cottage pie and shepherd's pie
    Key Moments by Agent Gold AI

  • @benmeehan1968
    @benmeehan1968 11 місяців тому

    If all the cracks are genuinely in the middle, then I'd suggest that some people are taking them off one-handed, and which band is in use is maybe a factor (the dual loop seems like a late compromise and might take more effort to remove from the head), using a single hand might cause the glass to flex, and depending on other factors such as heat at the time, it might lead to a weakness developing. Whilst VP might have had lots of in-house use, the people with the most usage we're likely devs who may well not have been using it on the head (perhaps using some sort of dual display to aid with development alongside an IDE). Those giving feedback might well have only had limited time, due to secrecy considerations.

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 11 місяців тому

      Definitely holding it wrong.

  • @Diago767
    @Diago767 11 місяців тому

    I'd be surprised if this had anything to do with heat, first impressions is that this is because the glass is under tension when its on someones head, the straps pulling back at each side round your face will create tension across the surface of the glass and the indent for the nose will focus all the stress on that point. over time with the tension bein applied and releaved as it goes on and off someones head its really not surprising that it cracks.

  • @bhinwaramjat8767
    @bhinwaramjat8767 11 місяців тому

    If there’s a temperature differential from top to bottom in the glass then one part of the glass would want to expand but the other part would not, putting the entire glass in a stress. This would cause the glass to break from its weak point.

  • @SCWgreg
    @SCWgreg 11 місяців тому

    What about from people cinching the back strap on too tight putting tension on the frame/glass. Combine that with taking on and off just stresses the glass over time.

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday 11 місяців тому

    Thinest part of the glass on the bend it's probably to thin splitting under slightest amount of shock jumping it on your desk in the case still getting enough of a shock through the case

  • @Artyomthewalrus
    @Artyomthewalrus 11 місяців тому

    If the air intake is at the bottom, outlet at the top. It could be that the bottom cools more rapidly when the cooling fans kick on. Thus more shock. Immediate temperature changes love breaking glass. Whereas, the air is preheated by the time it reaches the top of the device, thus the cooling isn't as rapid or damaging