A niche market that is really needed is a set of dies like this for 10 gauge brass hulls. There are a few Cowboy Action Shooters shooting the old 10 gauge shotguns. Plus, there are very few 10 gauge reloaders available. I think MEC has the only one. Looks like it would be a small design change to make a set of tools for the 10 gauge.
Believe when I say I'm sympathetic, but the problem is this: Every once in a while someone contacts me and asks for 10G/16G/28G/410 and assures me they and all their friends will buy them. I go ahead and design it. I pay for all the prototypes and do all the work, commission the factory to produce a bunch-- and those same people are all silent when it comes time to pay. If you can find 25 people who will agree put a deposit down on a 10G set, I'll be happy to produce one, but the days of me putting a bunch of money into the non-12G/20G only to have them go unsold are long gone.
Unfortunately there's just not enough demand. If you can find 49 more people willing to put down a deposit I will look at producing a single run of them, but so far no ones ever taken me up on that.
@@TATVCanada Having worked in a tool room I understand the implications of designing something, with setup and changeover of equipment and no one wants to do the for one part. If you make them and don't sell them you're out time and materials. That is a shame.
Don't mean to rain on your parade but a used MEC600 in 12ga or 20ga runs about $50. Even if your die set comes in at the same price, a dedicated press like the MEC600 offers many more features over a regular metallic press. On top of that, I'd venture to say that majority of presses out there are the smaller 7/8" thread. If anything, I'd recommend dropping the 12ga idea altogether and start focusing on less common sub gauges like 410 or 28ga. A used MEC600 in both these gauges is still quite expensive and you'd actually be able to make the die set fit in the more common 7/8" press. Just my 2 cents so take it, for what it's worth.
This is more so geared for reloaders producing buckshot and slugs who don't want to use most of the stations on a conventional press, who don't like the kick-out style resizer on MEC presses, or don't have the space to mount several dedicated presses. 28G accessories have virtually no market; I've designed some tools for .410 in the past but again, very limited demand. I've already got people contacting me for the 12G die set so I'm not too worried.
If the shell holder was completely flat the brass base on the shotshell would not have the sizing ring on it. Couldn't a primer punch push the shell out?
Love the idea and ingenuity! One question though, it appears to only size half way down the brass, is this area the only critical portion needing to be resized or is this addressed in your final design?
Its much more than half; and yes it will chamber fine. Unless you're using a MEC supersizer, you'll always have a tiny bit of brass near the rim that goes unsized.
In a perfect world I'd love to offer them in every gauge and bore but there just isn't enough demand to warrant the expense, nor do I have 410 hulls or reloading equipment to test.
Where can i buy theese shotgun shell resizing tools? I can not find it nearby. I want it especially for 410 caliber. Also it has to have shipping to Turkey.
@@TATVCanada I'm a Journeyman Tool and Die Maker. I've been working with metal for 40 years. Trust me it's not carbide. At least not on the standard Mec models. I haven't looked at the more advanced ones. The parts list mentioned nothing about the sizing ring being carbide.
I am in superbe disbelief that this ring (which looks very much like a coupling ring from a Canon multipin connector ) is Cobalt Carbide: Never seen "carbide" knurled, never with threading. CC is shaped by grinding with a Green wheel & is glass brittle.
@@Silver-MonkeyMan The actual sizing ring which is barely visible in the video is indeed carbide and press fit into the black, knurled, threaded ring body that houses it and that is steel.
Cool in theory but for the price you are asking you can buy a used mec jr.. Or almost a new one . I understand people may not need all the stations for slugs but when you can have the whole press for $50 bucks I think people would probably go that route.
I can't wait for the complete set to be offered!!!!!
I done a ton of 12,20,16 and 410 reloading . Now into rifle love the reloading .
Thank you thankyou thankyou for making this!!!!
No problem 😊
@ just realized that you need a older press for it to work
@ you could make this in 7/8 but you would have 2.2 mm of material in between the threads and the inside
@@criticalcan It has to take the larger style dies, however there are modern presses that will accept them. Lee makes a great one.
@@criticalcan Yes it would be extremely thin/weak.
This will also work with the hornady lock n load press if you take out the bushing conversion system.
Interesting! Didn't know that.
A niche market that is really needed is a set of dies like this for 10 gauge brass hulls. There are a few Cowboy Action Shooters shooting the old 10 gauge shotguns. Plus, there are very few 10 gauge reloaders available. I think MEC has the only one. Looks like it would be a small design change to make a set of tools for the 10 gauge.
Believe when I say I'm sympathetic, but the problem is this: Every once in a while someone contacts me and asks for 10G/16G/28G/410 and assures me they and all their friends will buy them. I go ahead and design it. I pay for all the prototypes and do all the work, commission the factory to produce a bunch-- and those same people are all silent when it comes time to pay. If you can find 25 people who will agree put a deposit down on a 10G set, I'll be happy to produce one, but the days of me putting a bunch of money into the non-12G/20G only to have them go unsold are long gone.
RCBS made a set like what you’re doing..have you plans for decapping, repriming,and crimping?
Yes, yes and yes!
Does it size far enough down the brass as to not cause jamming problems?
Seems to.
I would really appreciate one of these in 10 gauge.
Unfortunately there's just not enough demand. If you can find 49 more people willing to put down a deposit I will look at producing a single run of them, but so far no ones ever taken me up on that.
@@TATVCanada Having worked in a tool room I understand the implications of designing something, with setup and changeover of equipment and no one wants to do the for one part. If you make them and don't sell them you're out time and materials. That is a shame.
I would love a crimper akin to the roll crimper on the MEC Slugger.
I'm just finishing the latest changes to the hull holder for my roll crimp tool.
Will this work if you substitute the 12 gauge MEC sizing ring for a 10 gauge one?
I don't believe it would accommodate the increased diameter of a 10g hull. Even if it did though, the base is only designed for 12g.
Don't mean to rain on your parade but a used MEC600 in 12ga or 20ga runs about $50. Even if your die set comes in at the same price, a dedicated press like the MEC600 offers many more features over a regular metallic press. On top of that, I'd venture to say that majority of presses out there are the smaller 7/8" thread.
If anything, I'd recommend dropping the 12ga idea altogether and start focusing on less common sub gauges like 410 or 28ga. A used MEC600 in both these gauges is still quite expensive and you'd actually be able to make the die set fit in the more common 7/8" press. Just my 2 cents so take it, for what it's worth.
This is more so geared for reloaders producing buckshot and slugs who don't want to use most of the stations on a conventional press, who don't like the kick-out style resizer on MEC presses, or don't have the space to mount several dedicated presses.
28G accessories have virtually no market; I've designed some tools for .410 in the past but again, very limited demand. I've already got people contacting me for the 12G die set so I'm not too worried.
If the shell holder was completely flat the brass base on the shotshell would not have the sizing ring on it. Couldn't a primer punch push the shell out?
Love the idea and ingenuity! One question though, it appears to only size half way down the brass, is this area the only critical portion needing to be resized or is this addressed in your final design?
Its much more than half; and yes it will chamber fine. Unless you're using a MEC supersizer, you'll always have a tiny bit of brass near the rim that goes unsized.
How about a resizing die for 410 brass...given it much thought??
In a perfect world I'd love to offer them in every gauge and bore but there just isn't enough demand to warrant the expense, nor do I have 410 hulls or reloading equipment to test.
How do I buy your shotshell reloading products
Www.tatvcanada.com
Where is the one for the 410 ?
410 tools and accessories just don't sell. If you can find 50 people willing to put down a deposit I'll be happy to talk to you about making one.
\i am a newbie in the reloading of shotshell. Is there a list that states what wads to use with what type of hull. thanks
Yes; any reloading manual such as Lymans will have this.
For brass hulls too? You make n sell?
Www.tatvcanada.com
You should work on a taper die for 28 gauge. 👌
Unfortunately there just isn't enough demand for anything outside 12 and 20g.
Hello sir! Does it work on all brass shells?
Anecdotally I'm told it does, however I do not guarantee it with any hulls that don't meet SAAMI standards.
will this work on the new lee single stage press that have the breech lock quick change bushings?
You'd have to check on Lee's site to see what size dies it will accept.
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Where can i buy theese shotgun shell resizing tools? I can not find it nearby. I want it especially for 410 caliber. Also it has to have shipping to Turkey.
I am taking pre-orders for them at www.tatvcanada.com but there is no 410 option.
The Mec ring is not carbide.
Seeing as it's literally referred to by the manufacturer as a carbide sizing ring, I beg to differ.
@@TATVCanada I'm a Journeyman Tool and Die Maker. I've been working with metal for 40 years. Trust me it's not carbide. At least not on the standard Mec models. I haven't looked at the more advanced ones. The parts list mentioned nothing about the sizing ring being carbide.
@@TATVCanada You say that it's carbide steel. There is no such thing. I'm betting it's carbon steel.
I am in superbe disbelief that this ring (which looks very much like a coupling ring from a Canon multipin connector ) is Cobalt Carbide: Never seen "carbide" knurled, never with threading. CC is shaped by grinding with a Green wheel & is glass brittle.
@@Silver-MonkeyMan The actual sizing ring which is barely visible in the video is indeed carbide and press fit into the black, knurled, threaded ring body that houses it and that is steel.
Will it work with brass shells ?
Never tried, but I imagine so since it sizes steel which is harder.
Cool in theory but for the price you are asking you can buy a used mec jr.. Or almost a new one . I understand people may not need all the stations for slugs but when you can have the whole press for $50 bucks I think people would probably go that route.
I've sold around 100 of them so far, but I won't count on 101 being you.
do you have this for sale?
Pre-order only; www.tatvcanada.com
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I dont know - ive been reloading the same AA shells forever... this sounds like a sales pitch.
But its not sizing it all the way down.
It doesn't need to.
I thought that was MEC.
Now a resizing die for a 410 would be snapped up in a heart beat ..
If you can get 49 other people to put down a deposit and send me a supply of hulls to test with during the design phase, I'd be happy to oblige.
The music sure *SUCKS*