AMG CLS 63 Shooting Brake. Niche Car Porn - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Can you have too many new AMGs? No, you can't. This estate-ish, low-roofer probably answers a question no one has yet asked. But it goes like a randy rabbit and looks superb.
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Glad this popped up on my recommended 7 years later! Never knew there was a shooting brake version of this car!! Wish we got these in the US, such a badass car
Even in Europe is rare, but it's absolute dream of a car
Looks a lot better than the e63s wagon imo but at least we got that.
I have a CLS 350 shooting brake.. it's amazing. My brother has a Porsche Cayenne Turbo and all of our family and friends assume my car is 2x as expensive. This thing is MADE to eat miles, excellent design and handling. Lovely car
That 911 chase together with the fuming brakes left me wanting more.
We love our CLS 63!
Just love how Chris can review a car and it's almost as if he is talking to you and your sitting next to him.
Oh wow I never saw it like this, I’ve watched so so much but never from this perspective!!!
6:08 - 6:13 just enjoying those lines. If you lower the speed to 0.5 it really sounds like Mr. Harris had a beer to much haha
Brilliant mate :))
more mental - 850 Brabus shooting brake , waiting for this review ;)
Could you imagine a 65 version of this? Monster!
Every merc should be a twin turbo v12!
monster
C65 amg would be killer today, maybe a B65 amg LOL..
sik59rt I have but one thing to say to prove you wrong. G65
@@the-boring-car-guy Whats wrong with a G65? they are awesome!
This car is what the Porsche Panamera wishes it looked like. Amazing review as always!
I have the cls63 coupe with perf pkg & limited slip but shooting brake not available in N America however, that's why I have the prancing horse FF to fit the bill parked next to it. Cheers! Thx for the ride Chris!
Damn, i would love to see the chase between the Turbo s and the Amg! But anyway great review as always!
Shooting Brakes and Estates/Wagons are so underrated.
absolutely stunning this AMG CLS 63 Shooting Brake. We're impressed of the AMG-Power
i love how they captured the sound in slo mo`. it sounds AWESOME!!
Hmmm I wonder if BMW will answer with a M6 Wagon.?.?
No it didn't
One of the best Mercedes Benz AMG reviews on UA-cam.
Great video.
I have already got my eyes set on this car but will need to wait a little longer to replace my existing Merc :).
I love how he is like "it's not for me to judge what looks good or bad" because in the end it's all a matter of taste.
It is a ridiculously good looking car thouhg!
I used to think Tiff Needell was the sultan of slide and the Duke of drift. But I think Monkey now has the crown.
Perhaps one of the best car reviews on the net?
I think so.
There's no stopping this man.
Another great review from Chris Harris. I would pick this one over any Panamera in a heartbeat.
MERCEDES HAVE GONE MAD 💪👍👍
+Cyril Machete Lol and we loving it
5:43
"Inside, loads of rum"
Fuck yeh, I'll take it
Shooting Brakes are awesome. Especially the classic Shooting Brake converted Astons. I wish they would bring Shooting Brakes to the 'States. I don't know what it is, but having massive power with that sort of shape is just, well, awesome. Car companies: More Shooting Brakes!
This has four doors, a hood that is relatively short compared to the cabin, and the driver sits well forward of the rear axle- in my opinion it's not a shooting brake, its an estate with a cut roof line. Mercedes are just calling it a shooting brake for marketing reasons, without seeming to have any understanding of what the term means.
Matthew Sharpe At least they're getting closer!
Sandra Rios Yes can't deny it's an attractive wagon, but it's a wagon with the wrong name! The Ferrari FF is a very good example of a real Shooting Brake.
Maybe Mercedes are just trying to change the definition again - crazy Germans!
Lol. Funny, I was gonna mention the Ferrari FF as a pretty good example of a shooting brake, as well.
yeah to my knowledge this is more of a wagon. but I think wagons with that much power are awesome too.
Such a shame that Mercedes has no plans to make a shooting brake for the 3rd generation.
i love listening to this guy
This isn't really a shooting brake...
As always Chris ,your vids make a bad day better and a good day great!Your ability to make such great points about these cars while driving sideways never fails to impress me greatly.
Dont know how you keep your license using public roadways to deliver smoke bombs and
dark black patches in every curve always makes me grin and yearn for my wild youth and
wayward women.Those were the days my friend and keep the great vids coming........please!
This car really reminds me of the Mercedes R-Class (Longversion). That car we had was not a car it should be called a sedan chair. Very jaw-dropping highspeed autobahn cruising machine. Always a headturner where it was parked and passes buy. I believe the CLS shootingbrake is very much similar to this.
I didn't get that Leis Hamilton tweet thingy….
His tweets used to be really... out there.
Excellent video Chris! I love the thorough level of detail you put into your reviews :) Please keep up the good work!
...oh Chris Harris, Chris Harris you dainty devil you! Your videos have eroded my admiration for top-tier sedans a la S Class and all manner of Audis to these...estates--er segment niches. Yet, I can't help but recall another /CH ON CARS piece in which you've so eloquently exercised your journalistic integrity as you revealed the superiority of another niche segmentee... While I share your 'shooting' admiration, there is certainly a lot more to be said about the Audi RS 6 Estate.
wagon of a sedan of a coupey shape
Another epic car that I'm sure we'll never get stateside...
+Hammer Smith Oh...you mean the CTS-V Wagon that they no longer make?...
could someone pls explain to me what the word 'niche' means google translate and oxford dictionary doesn't explain it to me or i just dont understand its use here
In this case it simply means a car category that is non-mainstream, with little to no competition.
A car that is not one of the classic types like a 3 box design sedan or something the like.
Generally, niche has a meaning similar to gap.
keep coming back to this review.. great stuff!
Germans make the best cars in the world. AMG = beautiful shapes, power, luxury.
Great video. I posted on supernius.pl
You know what would be great DRIVE? An entire video of Chris Harris just driving with the camera in the over the shoulder position like the last few seconds of the video. I would absolutely love that.
lmao at smoking the brakes!!
A modern name "shooting brake" is another word for boring modern day station wagon.
What do you want it to be?
I have owned badassed Porsche 911 love Manuel, however I own a 06 S65 Bi-Turbo V-12 AMG and I can tell you that you need both hands on the wheel. This thing is just another mark in AMG's belt. Great for that hot MILF. David A. Puchta
No, Mercedes-Benz has not made manual V8's ever since the 300SEL 3.5, with a 4-speed floor-mounted manual transmission. There are some exceptions however, AMG/Brabus-tuned W124 and W126 coupes could be ordered with 5-speed Getrag transmissions. RennTECH also made a 6-speed manual for the 500E W124, but it was a one-off. Other than that, Mercedes-Benz has made/used weak manual boxes for a long time, so they only mate them to smaller/weaker engines. It's a shame but their automatics are not bad..
Hey Chris, good segment. I urge you to look around your side of the pond for what we here in the US call a "Maggie"... particularly the SRT8 guise. Since Chrysler didn't sell the Dodge brand over there, it would be the Chrysler 300 Estate SRT8. This LX-platform vehicle is from the Daimler-Chrysler days & should be given some homage for the Shooting Break. Then you should check out the Caddy CTS-V wagon; another car that pays homage to the "Maggie"! You'd love them all!!!
the only niche that noone seems to care about is light cars that go like hell and dont give a shit about comfort, safety and fuel consumption
If Chris could upload the raw footage of CLS chasing the 997 Turbo would be great. Don't mind if it's on Drive or his personal channel
You said the car has a lot of power everywhere in the rpm range. May I say that is probably because it is decently large V8 that doesn't have to depend on turbos unlike turbocharged four cylinders which are babys without turbo boost
I always love mercedes benz and AMG
sigh i guess im just not rich enough for that car. I just dont wanna spend more than 50k...and id be more comfortable at 40. But i absolutely really reeeeaaaaaaaally love that shooting brake
Im sure a loaded up AMG variant is dead cool, but wouldn't a 200 or 240 CDI version be somewhat disappointing?
If 18-27 year olds bought AMG's like that they would offer a 6-speed, but you cant afford the car. So curb your opinion, or go comment on a Honda video instead.
When watching Fifth Gear, I always watch Vicki's hair when going through corners. It's mesmerizing.
I'm glad Chris Harris did the review. Matt Farrah's review would be "wow...awesome...wow...so powerful....hahaha...oh my god....awesome"
PLEASE release that TOUGE BATTLE !! (or edit it like one ;)
would be pretty funny!) See: Best Motoring International touge battles!
Dear Drive/Chris, or whatever,
we want that video!! would you please upload it, or give us at least a reason for not doing it?
Harris is great...Front of the car is great...Rear of the car looks like they tried to polish a turd and failed horribly.
there should be a drive host race were they get like $3000 to make a car and race them
At 2:40 he makes the remark that this could be competition for the E-class Estate, I guess Mercedes Benz thought of the same here, but that could be a huge mistake.
It's interior space isn't comparable with that of an E class estate, and E Estate buyers will be dissatisfied with this car. I would personally target for people who drive a sport sedan (like the CLS) in the first place; mid thirties, no children and preferably yacht owners (because they might need the extra space)!
I think the confusion comes from the fact that most SUV's are not really SUV's anymore, even though they are marketed as such. If you can remember the Bronco, compare it to a current SUV such as the Venza, or the Compass, or the *shrug* Escalade. SUV's are (or were) meant to go where minivans or estates can't, while retaining some practicality. The examples I mentioned are merely minivans in a two-box disguise.
How long does it take to fully recharge a Tesla Roadster?
And where does the power come from? (last time I checked the answer to that one was Coal-Plants which are actually the worlds largest producer of CO2)
Sorry you may have had me had you gone with bioethanol (2nd gen which comes from straw, not that 1st gen corn starch b/s) like the Bowler Nemesis or the Koenigsegg CCXR but you just had to go down the dead-end that is battery-power.
I didn't know what to think about this car. I love AMG's but this looked a bit weired to me, Why buy this instead of an E-estate 63 or even the M5 saloon. Well because you can.. Suddenly after seeing how much fun chris had in this car, you just know it's awesome and I want one sooo bad! (:
Well done Chris to give me the best 8 minutes of this evening! (my girlfriend is rather boring compared to the cls63 SB..)
A shooting brake is NOT just "a high end estate/station wagon", a shooting brake is a two door, two seat, wagon, or a wagon variation of a sporstscar. An argument could be made for a 2 door 4 passenger wagon, but even that is pushing it. This has 4 doors, and is just the wagon version of a sedan "4 door car", it is a normal station wagon, nothing more. An SLS AMG Wagon, now THAT would be a shooting brake.
I don't understand why people would want a car like this anymore.
Instead you could buy a Tesla Model S Performance, save $50k up front, $3-4k every year in gas, god knows how much in maintenance cost over 5 years (AMG's aren't exactly known for being reliable or cheap to fix), be quicker, have a lower center of gravity, never go to a gas station, and even seat two more people, have more passenger space AND more cargo space than this station wagon, while driving a sedan.
Hm, as far as I can see you are testing that cars on public roads. I don't know, but I find it kinda inappropriate to drive like that on what are clearly and evidently not even empty roads, let alone private. I like your reviews, I really do, but it really don't approve such kind of driving.. Little to moderate speeding is something, but street racing and powersliding every corner when there are another cars on the road... Wouldn't commentate if that was for the first time, but it's every time.
chris... just taking 1 of your lines: the car is worth so mutch because it can do so mutch for so many diferent people"... right... it can´t. it's way 2 expensive for "so many people" 2 buy it. and on top of that, as u said your self it's a niche car a business man ain't gona own that to go to work it just doesnt ad up on the parking lot. he might get it 4 the wife 2 do the school run but then again he wont unless he wants 2 get rid of her and the kids.. so that one is realy just a tad 2 mutch
Hi Chris, every Thursday I open drive channel and click on your new addition. Every video you produce is a joy to watch and I have to admit I love it the most when you review Porsches and BMWs because I love them as much as you do in a very unusual way like nothing else gives you more joy then those two brands. What are your impressions on the 6 series gran coupe? I thought it looked impressive at the dealer the other day when I was in for a service.
You'll be hard pressed to find a merc with a manual other than the odd few such as the 190E's. After about 2001 I think they reduced the amount of manuals massively.
Also, they aren't designed for massive amounts of driver involvement, they're there to every now and again blast round a mountain road and do a few slides, but then they can go back to being a calm motorway cruiser.
Altho I agree manual versions would be great for a lot of their cars, the problem is Mercedes doesn't do the greatest manual transmission's because well, they never make them, and although WE would love it, we're not necessarily the ones BUYing the cars. They would be wasting time and money developing manual transmissions because no one would buy it. Think about it Ferrari even stopped making manuals because only maybe 5-10% of customers were buying manual, and thats for a FERRARI, not an estate
I find I'm on the same page as you, it's simply gorgeous and goes like stink. Something I can propose to the wife as the "Practical family car" and still fit kids and luggage in the back. How many cars can you perform massive sideways hooning, kill 911s with your family and luggage in the back at once?! Nothing else like this besides the E61 M5 (which by the way I would buy if I ever saw one because its close performance and much cheaper. V10 sound scares people off the sidewalks)
I'm inclined to agree with Chris here... a fast estate is more appealing and more bonkers than a fast saloon....
Probably the best so far...I do like the RS6 but for me Audi's are a bit dull... where as Mercs are kind of like the Frank Martin (the character from The Transporter played by Jason Statham) Has a nice suit but will tear your head off if you poke him....
where did I mention AMG + 4WD? :-)
I just told the dude what is the difference between the classes of cars.
maybe there is a R class AMG.. but I never seen one.
And I am not a fan of Audi.. too much understeer, too heavy and too expensive. And almost every Audi has a dead steering system. I drive an E class on my daily commute and I am quite happy with it.
mercedes with a manuel? thats about as strage as a porsche with a automatic ....
ps. they won't do that, cause theire engines produce to much tourge for driveable manuel anyway, at least by german standerts. the m3 e36 has no tourge at all, and uses a stronger getrag transmission then the supra jza80, to just give you an idea how german build cars ....
Even before seeing this car, the CLS 63 Shooting Brake, I thought that Mercedes, hands down, made the best looking wagons/estate cars - whatever your local colloquialism is. But now, having based an estate on the CLS, my god! I never thought I'd say it, but my dream car poster on the wall is now a Mercedes estate car.
Okay now MB is just going after the edgy appeal of the CTS-V Wagon. I'm sorry, but the price is just not worth it. Yes you might get a vastly superior interior design and quality...yet your also paying a lot just for the name. The second GM puts their new CUE system into the CTS-V Wagon the cost of the Shooting Brake will be very hard to justify!
being a fanboy of any of the german big 3+1 ( + Porsche ) is not a bad thing, if you are not doing it over the top, Harris would have a ton of Mercs if your point was the case, he gives epic reviews about every car he drives, and he is quite objective in all cases, watch his older and newer videos, he is constant.
Wagons have a cool factor when compared to their sedan counterpart.
Like this AMG CLS63 or the RS6 wagon
Why still stick to Automatic when double clutch exist? i mean if a DSG on a golf is comfy im sure with little effort it would be comfier and sportier in a mercedes. No matter what , the older an automatic gear box gets, it will shift slower and jerckier the new.
To be quite honest electric vehicles aren't good enough yet, and even when you can get one that will do 3-500 miles on a charge and they all do 0-60 in 4.something seconds for the majority of car people this wont be enough, noise and a spiky power-band is part of what makes a car exciting !
You see, Chris Harris knows cars, and he likes AMGs. AMGs are so great, I think, by now, it's a fact that they are better than M. What does M have? The M3 and The M5. What does AMG have? SLS, C63 black, the 65 models, and an 63 AMG variant of just about every Benz model.
I can't see the point about buying a Tesla, or even any electric cars.
If you want to save the Earth, buy a Vauxhall Ampera or (if you really want a performance electric) a Fisker Karma. Or a Ford Fiesta EcoNetic.
Otherwise, I'll stick to all the fury and noises of big, flowery V8s, V10s and V12s...
turbo s? don't think so :) i think he already mentioned 'trying to catch up to it' and that he fried the brakes on the shooting brake. turbo s is on a different level in terms of capability and frankly not much sedans, if any can keep up with that thing in the corners.
I just love the way this car looks, I need it in black with powercoated factory wheels and a mobil one speed pass, and a new set of rear tires every month lol
oh yeah great video once again, please work on getting chris in the new f10 m5, I'd love to see that video
k thank bye
You know, I like it. I'll never be able to afford it, but maybe the Dodge magnum wagon. It's cooler looking. This design is quite good, but the rear side glass shapes are just wrong. It's like they took the look from everyone else's SUV. Nothing to see here, move along.
why would any one in their right mind buy a Porsche Panamera now? This looks good (Panamera doesn't, it is just a fact), it is fun to drive and I guess it is even more practical.
PS: the previous video with the diesel Panamera was really rubbish.. just stupid. He better should have tested a Mazda RX-8.
...with his last few videos I've slowly lost all respect for Chris Harris. :-/
a) He didn't even mention that this is just a station wagon, not a true "shooting brake".
b) He LOVED the diesel Panamera. *barf.
c) He doesn't like Miatas.
...well have fun with that in 10 years when its fallen apart. my dad has owned a caddy from the 70's, 80's, and 90's. They have all fallen apart mechanically and cosmetically and none of them ever rode as good as my 85 Mercedes turbo.
the cls shooting brake is the new "eierlegende wollmilchsau" (german expression for a solution trying to include everything) you can drive up businesslike, you have space for bag and baggage and race track performance all in one.
i was thinking about getting the e63 estate for my mum bday until i heard this coming out now after Chris's amazing video and reviewing skills, i think imma wait until i can get this for myself and give mom my panamera turbo s hahaha
Great Show... thumbs always up to Chris Harris... I think only people that like the panamera or understand appeal of these big fast cars are going to like this car.. I think its great but you should drive a CTS-V Wagon for fun...
definitely looks better than a Porsche Panamera and the Ugly Ferrari FF. It'd be a three way tie for me between the CLS Shooting break Panamera and CTS-V wagon. but drop the word "Hennessey" in the mix than I've made my decision lol.
Nah, 200 and 240 CDI is enough for people who want the luxury but don't really care about überpunch. Don't underestimate 200hp even in a big car like this, the Germans are known to deliver good punch from the smallest of engines :)
hell why wait. Sack the lot of them and let him run it. Given the salaries of the current team mean we only seem to get six episodes each year now nothing it would represent a good use of our licence money as well.
Nah, then we are going to be missing out on this kind of stuff. Top Gear doesn't drive enough in their show. Way too much boring "comedy" stuff.
Chris Harris should do what he does best, bringing us the worlds best car show.
For humanity sake, Mercedes, please don't ruin CLS class with ugly station wagon. Please please please... just NO! CLS is the sexiest car out there, if Shooting Brake is released, I'll never be able to look at CLS the same way.
DSG is by far not as strong as an automatic.
The automatic is also a bit more refined to work with. A double clutch needs a reset for the ecu every 15.000 kms. It's just not as good as people say in my opinion!
I do agree I'd love more cars to be manual, but personally a big barge like this I wouldn't mind being an auto, just as long as I also had a proper sports car with a knob in the middle. Unfortunately manuals are dying.
I think they should copy top gear a bit and take Matt Farrah to a track and have a famous racing driver try and slash his laptimes. I say this as it looked like he had a lot of fun in the Turner Motorsport vid.
Mercedes and manual gearbox's is not a very good combination. And, many people actually use these cars to go to work, or shopping, and truth be told a automatic/robotized gearbox can be as good as a manual gearbox
Drift folk may not appreciate it but if the CLS Shooting Brake was to be a seriously practical car it would come with four wheel drive. RWD is still a pain in a snowy winter, no matter how much electronic assist it gets.
are there any police in the country, cause from what I understand there isn't.
I would like to see this car compared head to head with Panamera Turbo or maybe with Panamera S.
The RS5 is basically just an RS4 Coupe.
So the RS5 compares perfectly with the M3 Coupe.
And if it were my choice I'd take the one that also works in snowy winters(i.e. I'd have the Audi).