Bringing the truth to indoctrinated Russians | Misha Katsurin
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
- "Our phone calls are the only way to tell them the truth about what's going on in Ukraine right now."
Misha Katsurin explains why he created Papa Believe, a website trying to bring the truth to indoctrinated Russians.
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I shown my father videos of independent journalism in these territories of ukraine where the battle is taking place ,he has now changed his out look on this war ,
@bruce parka thanks, Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips, eva k bartlet, gonzalo lira and old bbc reports on the far right in ukraine , I've seen some bad stuff and only peace talks work not war
@@Dogboy2004 You just listed a bunch of Russian propaganda outlets, clearly you have not yet understood how to check your sources for accuracy.
@@roqsteady5290 sorry, I just seen reports and watched them, could you possibly point me in the direction of non propag$nda news please ?
@@Dogboy2004 BBC, Channel 4 News, DW, Times Radio are good channels for an overview of what is going on. Check out denys davydov for daily update of the position on the ground. Also Perun channel gives some deep background. In general take everything you see, especially small channels, with a pinch of salt and try to corroborate with as many sources as possible especially those sources that have reporteers on the ground in combat areas. Putin has a huge propaganda machine... Generally if an important piece of news is true it will be soon be reported on all mainstream news channels.
@@Dogboy2004 I will avoid them like the plague, they sold their souls to RuZZia. I saw in a video made by a Russian a guy potatoes are up 356% from 25 to 89 rubles, the video was recorded in a huge shopping mall in Moscow, is true or the guy faked everything?
If recruiting was from Moscow and the deaths of those citizens, trust me there would be so much more outrage from Russian people.
Pooty boy knows this. Thats why he is using forces from the south and east of russia.
In the longer term, the Putinists are happy that they are killing several birds with one stone - they are getting rid of the most troublemaking demographic in any country, unemployed (and sometimes unemployable) young males from low socio-economic backgrounds. As well, they are Buryats, Kazakhs, Tuvans, Tatars, Chechnyans - from ethnic-minority areas and from fringe areas like Kaliningrad or the Kazakh and Mongolian borders. Dwindling populations that this “helps” to dwindle further. And of course when any region votes for independence, as Tatarstan and Chechnya did in the past, these would be the age group fighting for that independence: instead they are potential Russian enemies being used to fight Russian enemies. It is obvious that the Kremlin thinks this is a win-win. But in the long term it is a way to build deep resentment into these regions, anger that their young are being used up and thrown away while their opposite numbers in St Petersburg and Moscow, already with much better resources and chances in life, carry on life as normal.
@@nkuntroll247 they aren’t happy that their boys aren’t coming home…
Why, coz country folk will just accept the wholesale slaughter of their young men? Somehow I think not
Muscovite don’t care how many of their expendable Country Hicks get Killed
What a terrible situation to be in! One day your father will be so proud of you when this nightmare is over and Putin is gone.
If the rest of the world would do to us, what NATO has done to Russia in the decades before the invasion, NATO would have started World War 3 a long time ago.
The young folks are wise to this war. There’s only so long one can BS all the people.
You can BS some of the people all the time or you can BS all the people some of the time. But you can't BS all the people all the time! And.... FJB!!!!
You can lie and enslave a population of people indefinitely. Look at North Korea.
Where are the mass protests? Where is the mass disobedience? Yeah, I know its pretty much a harsh regime, but their lives will be not 21st century anymore, but 20th century, mid 20th at that. Progress and freedom are worth fighting for
Love the footage of the young crowd at a concert in russia chanting "f**k the war" (in russian of course).
Safety in numbers, huge demonstrations will work!
God bless your good work Misha
At this point I wouldn’t try to convince a Russian. I would simply send them the info they’re not seeing & let their anger grow at Putin instead of the messenger.
Why would Russian citizen get angry at Putin?
What info? Wait till women in western Ukraine ask when are the men returning and are told never because Zelenskyy sent them to the front to be murdered! Then you will see anger! Ukraine`s men have been annihilated you fool! You have all been conned by your media and your Government!
@@karlharrison2449 Oh, for crying out loud...
Shooting the messenger of bad tidings is a time honoured tradition
Viva Russia. Is a neccesary war against the west that want this war to destroy economically Russia and Vlad Putin.
This man is doing good work. That russia reacts like this when people are told the truth is horrifying
Tyrants fear free speech. That is why we must keep exercising it.
They've been conditioned to hate the west and think they're out to get them.
Propaganda!
Yes is good western propagsnda
Hope your relationship with your father will improve and back to normal. May he sees and hears the truth soon
I think older Russians also see themselves as subservient to Russian leadership due to the fact they still remember the USSR and not being subservient was a one way ticket to poverty and possibly Siberia.
to say nothing of the Tsarist rule before USSR. In fact, Russia has been under totalitarian rule for many generations except for a few years here and there.
Does the State beget the People, or vice-versa? In America, we love to blame everybody except ourselves, especially when it comes to politics; and my understanding of what's going on becomes so pure when I discard the idea of external intervention, not to say that propaganda does not exist but definitely that the onus is still upon we individuals to find and understand what's real and to craft our own reality, and stop blaming others for our own choices
So, re: modern Russia/former USSR, I think the psychology of Russians is largely unchanged, and their historical patterns will continue to manifest unless and until acted upon through some mechanism which changes the survival probabilities currently part of the Russian culture
It's a bit like Boomers and the 50s. A mixture of childhood nostalgia & unaware of the inequalities that allowed the prosperity they benefited from.
@@MrFacemeltify again blaming someone else of a different generation
❤️Ukrainian 🇬🇪
Russia is fully aware knowledge of truth is all that is needed to destroy them.
Like it says in the Bible: The truth will set you free. Misha is doing valuable work here. I hope and pray that he reaches more and more Russians to tell them the truth about this " special military operation".
Quoting the bible. Have any original thoughts? The bible had no problem with slavery, so maybe come up with something more relevant in the 21st century.
Oh, help... Like it says in the bible... If that's the best you can do...
The bible recommends stoning unruly children at the edge of town, perhaps you want to choose another moral yard stick?
@@derwolfpack3599 Get a life, Der. You are misrepresenting the Bible as it was a book for it's time. Slavery was different then as you should know. The Bible is full of good advice as how you should live your life. Reject it & be miserable.
People have to do this... in 2022.
1 more small victory, they all add up, give it time... sooner would be nice though! - SLAVA UKRAINE!
You are a son to be proud of, Misha, one day I hope your father can recognise the truth that you speak. Well done! I pray that your Father will meet with Jesus, the world's true gardener, and then he will understand why you are so pro-active. Russia and Russian people need 'diamonds' like you. God bless and protect you and your loved ones.🙏👏🙏👏🙏
You can fool the people sometimes but you can't fool them all the time ! Russian propaganda will not prevail indefinitely.
You can. You just never lived in totalitarian regime. Also Putin can make 70-80% to believe him and 10-20% hate him. That is fine with him. Also in totalitarian regime public opinion is not so important.
Western propaganda on this channel has all the sheep believing Russia are losing this conflict! Ukraine`s army is about to collapse! hopefully people realize they have been lied to about many things!
This Man should ask his Father “How come Vladimir Putin is the World’s Richest Man”
That is just here say.
We don't know the names of the world's richest people, neither me nor you.
@@karlharrison2449 whatever
@@joanhartsree7812 How intelligent.
I would simply ask sceptical Russians two simple questions;
1. How many Russian have been killed in this "Special Operation" in Ukraine? Answer is 30,000
2. Why doesn't Russia retrieve the bodies of dead soldiers and give them honour for their sacrifice, give them the respect and dignity of burial in their homeland attended by their grieving families? Answer is Ukraine is holding 15,000 bodies that Russia refuses to take!
Let them think about that, and if brave, dare to question themselves where are the dead soldiers, sailors and airmen.
Answer is they're in refrigerated trucks and trains.
Also, ask why all the information only comes from the state and why people get arrested for protesting against war.
They probably just won't believe there are 30k dead. To them that's fake Western propaganda, and they'll in turn wonder why YOU're so deluded.
Doesn't work. Their media reality is different
1. No one knows the exact number, it's never been released
2. This is just western propaganda
These are the answers from people who consume Russian sponsored media
Stop believing the lies! In less than a week Ukraine`s army will collapse! They are the ones who have taken massive loses!
Most of the "man in the street" interviews of Russians I've seen show 90% too frightened to say anything.
Indeed - there is no _vox pop_ on the Russian streets these days. And it would be unrealistic to expect any, given the Soviet-style repression we are now witnessing. What a tragedy for Russia this all is !
I keep hearing tales of people who prefer to believe whatever Putin says rather than accept what relatives tell them they have seen with their own two eyes. In free countries most of us know that, with very rare exceptions, "an honest politician" is an oxymoron.
Free country and dishonest politicians is an oxymoron.
A free country just means one where citizens can have a different political view from the government of the day without suffering persecution or imprisonment; and where people can make personal choices such as religion or region of residence.
Many American and Canadian are pro putin ... Traitors to there country is what they are those should be shot.
Politicians are liars. Theocracy would be so much better, right?
It’s no different than tRump and tRumpists. You don’t have to look far to see those fascists that are the same as Putin, in the west.
Misha you are a star
Bravo!!!
Keep bringing the truth...
Slava Ukraini!
Continue with your good work
I am encouraged by your bravery. Speaking truth to power is rare in Russia.
Holding relatives accountable for ones actions?
Russia is an extant example of tribal society.
Suppressing your threat with potential harm to your relatives?
Russia is a Mafia state.
Or both, as long as the citizens don't recognize it as not right and protest publicly against this blackmailing.
I remember the TV wars between West & East Germany in the 1970/80's . Wonder how many Russians & Belarusians can receive Ukrainian/Polish TV ?
Only those with very big antennas or satellite internet/TV, I would think.
I have a good friend in russia but when we talk we leave politics out of it. We talk about family, weather, work etc!! It is better this way as we do not know who is monitoring the communications. I know they are safe and well!!
Well… sorry nut crime is not politics.
What would the point of talking to them at all? Dishonest not to mention the elefant in the room
They are safe because no one has invaded Russia. So ignorance is bliss keep hiding the truth it will come out in the end. See how they feel then. None of the citizens that have been killed by indescriminant bombings are natzi.
The interesting thing here is, my uncle is extremely susceptible to propaganda, but from a pro China standpoint. His sources aren't really giving him much to go on, as they are kind of non-committal, sitting on the fence and not saying much of any substance.
Because he is unable to think for himself and just parrots other sources, this leaves him completely at sea, unable to form an opinion of his own. He's reaching out for the propaganda to tell him what to think, but it isn't coming, at least not sufficiently. He's waiting to be told what to think - and even the reliance on previous propaganda isn't enough, it needs to be fresh otherwise he's like a drone with the power switched off
Propaganda is as much about the receiver as it is the transmitter,
Slava Ukraini 🌻
Propaganda can be an effective weapon against the weak minded.....and those who prefer to cower....
Everybody is susceptible to propaganda, it's not about weakness or strength. Propaganda is a powerful psychological tool.
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What is the website called?
I tried to post the website URL, but it looks like it wouldn’t post. However, just google Papa Believes in English and you can switch languages within the site.
@@eh1702 Thanks!
Somehow chrome loaded a white screen only. Firefox was successfully loaded the page.
No independent media , Its Sickening
Host MAY want to consider a slightly larger headset?
The circumstances may be different but this reminds me of all the families torn apart in the US over things like 5G & Q-anon. Just another example of why media literacy is so important
I was thinking about the Parkland shooting, one of the kids dads believes his own son is a crisis actor
hero
So more victims of a different kind
You can lead a Russian to the truth, but you cannot make him think…
The Russian mentality is Pro war. The need to show strength. Good luck trying to get through that.
Surely the average Russian isn't that evil?
@@dannylad1600 educated ones, no. But they aren't the average Russian. Have you looked at the size of the country? There's a reason secret conscription is happening outside of Moscow and At.Petersburgh. the rural villages are dirt poor and poorly educated and very nationalistic.
generational punishment / family punishment is what they do in north korea.
And now also in putins russia
Put on Zak the russian on youtube
The right wing in America admires the Russia media and Putin. Think about that.
GET A MARKETING COMPANY TO EMAIL AND TEXT MESSAGE THE RUSSIANS
Top Zelensky adviser concedes loss of Liman, a major Ukrainian stronghold in Donbass
Russian troops have taken over the town of Liman in the northern Donetsk region, the government in Kiev revealed, on Thursday evening. Ukrainian forces have reportedly withdrawn west-southwest towards Slavyansk.
“We have lost the town of Liman,” Alexey Arestovich, a key adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, admitted in a livestream on Thursday.
Though Arestovich cited “unconfirmed reports,” Russian military correspondent Alexander Kots posted a video of Russian troops in the city shortly thereafter, captioned “Liman is ours.” Ukrainian troops “fled” west and southwest, Kots added, while covering their retreat with artillery fire.
The storming of Liman lasted less than a week, with Russian forces entering the city on May 23. There were unconfirmed reports, on Telegram channels, that as many as 500 Ukrainian troops had surrendered. By Wednesday, three quarters of Liman was allegedly under russian control 👌😂
Volodymyr Zolkin channel
Very "valuable" input. 😴
Patrick Lancaster is a journalist on UA-cam American living in donbass and has been on the front lines since the beginning of the civil war
... and always accompanied by soldiers. And having this kind of dialogue:
P.L.: Who's shelling?
Local: Soldiers...
P.L.: Ukrainians?
Local: They shoot at us.
P.L.: So Ukrainians did it!
Yup, the best source of information! 🤣
Check for Marianna from Mariupol maternity, latest. And you'll how how professionals in propaganda cam twist and prove anything to weak minds. Are you one of these, or you can gather more info than P.L. BS?
Did he report on Russian troops back then, or did he just pretend they weren't there?
And international agencies have been on the ground and watched and documented all that was happening In donbas it's going through the courts now. So I would listen to them not some biased reporter.
Patrick Lancaster is a pro Putin puppet and just spreads pro Putin propaganda
"American living in donbass"
This american journalist has been living in Donbass for many years, his home is in Donbass and his wife is from Donbass.
The journalist began to regard himself as one of the people of Donbass, he identifies with them, he sympathizes with them, he can no longer be OBJECTIVE. Therefore he is no longer a real journalist, he is a propagandist.
The truth 😂😆
Matthew 7:4
“You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”
Putin-bot?
Joseph Goebbels has NOTHING on the Russian Kremlin Puttin Propanda machine. Goebbels was a amateur compared to Puttins staff.
Hilarius, the greatest propaganda machine on the internet is going to bring the truth to Russian citizens.
With an approval rating of 85% it's hard to immagine that it's just older people who support Putin.
On the contrary, among the younger generation, Putin is nearly as popular as a rock star.
They can do Trump world next. My MIL, during a casual mention of of this crazy war: “yeah but I don’t think Ukraine is so innocent” Uh….ok?
The irony is most of the pro-trump trolls on the internet are Russian.
I was told by Trump voter that Putin was great, that Zelensky murdered, kidnapped children ate ate babies. Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot!
Exactly...!!!
As far as I am concerned, both Trump and Putin are cut from the same psychological cloth and, so, are both dangerous. Ukraine is not a perfect country. However, it has not militarily intervened outside of its legal borders, unlike Russia, and it posed no threats to Russia. Russia's invasion is entirely for the internal purpose of its leaders and no one can predict how far its territorial and military ambition go. Putin made clear statements that indicate that his ambitions are not limited to Ukraine. He wrote them in an essay, stated them at the Munich convention.
If a father is concerned about his son he Shd keep the communication open and try to convince his son of Ukrainian lies .. truth doesn’t mind being questioned, but a lie doesn’t like to be challenged*
With more equal than others Boriska, Tony the Knight and the global laundromat in London British must keep their mouths shut.
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The thing is in every war the truth dies first. Ukranians are also not being told the truth. And neither are the Westerners.
While this is obviously the case, who is being told the truth, and who by?
@@jascu4251 nobody. You need to read between the lines from multiple sources. If you see a common theme repeating in multiple sources on both sides, then it is probably true.
@@76ksenija When you say both sides, does that mean that there are only two sides?
@@jascu4251 good point, and no... there are many sides... and each one presents information that suits its own narrative, and suppresses information that doesn't
@@76ksenija Yeah, this makes sense. I feel like people expecting to be told "the truth"....are unrealistic? As though they are expecting to have their thinking done for them, in a way
In a war the first thing that dies is truth? maybe, but was truth even alive in the first place?
Only propaganda is the west
For those of you wondering what a propaganda indoctrination video looks like - Times Radio is a perfect example
When is Times Radio going to bring the truth to the indocrinated people of western Europe?
Tell Russian people that Mussolini Zelensky banned Russian language in 2019. In US that would be like banning Spanish or Chinese, then sending Nazis to attack anybody who spoke banned language
That’s a lie. He did not ban the Russian language. Provide evidence or shut up and go draw your roubles from your Kremlin paymaster.
NATO propaganda
Good follow up on Ukraine situation, illustrated with maps:
Denys Davydov Channel
Playlist: Intercepted Calls:
/watch?v=qQ2ykJCmLmw&list=PLWhDP0v1o10FlGcOYW-yR-ANvWCtrj0x8
Playlist:POW interviews:
/watch?v=Lao1fc81iAI&list=PLjPichGwDTa720osLWMQImtLuppzIB6V7
POW interviews, Intercepted Calls, Social Media:
Insights from Ukraine and Russia Channel
iStand with Ukraine Channel
Volodymyr Zolkin Channel
Glimpse from the other side:
1420 Channel
-> Got of few dozen but not gonna post without their consent and randomly