Nurse Practitioner Residency Programs | Are They Worth It? | Thoughts from an Nurse Practitioner
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- Nurse Practitioner Residency Programs | Are They Worth It? | Thoughts from an Nurse Practitioner. Let’s make a Pro and Cons list about nurse practitioner New Grad Residency Programs. Why I didn’t do a nurse practitioner residency program, Why I think nurse practitioner residency programs are great (oops gave it away haha) and Some things to consider if you are deciding if you want to do a nurse practitioner residency program after you graduate from NP school.
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I would totally have to agree with everything you said. I share your unpopular opinion with residency’s should be standard for at least a year for new NPs. I’m in an APRN residency right now as an FNP in DC and I absolutely love it and definitely think it’s super beneficial! I can go more in detail if anyone needs!
I would love more detail! I am considering a NP residency
More detail would be so appreciated! particularly, how did you find the program? How long is it? And what are the two most beneficial things you've gotten from it. THANK You!!
Hi Tacara! I would love more information please!
Hi Tacara, I am located in DC and just finished FNP school. Do you mind sharing which residency program you did? 🫶🏻
I think you are absolutely right about the arrogance of new NPs, I know that its controversial, but just because you can do something doesnt mean you should. I hope that we see the education of NPs standardize and increase training because ultimately its about the patients. And there is a reason why MD/DOs have as much training as they do. There are absolutely fabulous NPs out there, but the license alone tells me nothing about your qualifications to be my provider
Couldn't agree more!
100%
Absolutely! The problem facing the NP profession is that it has accredited far too many schools that are simply put “diploma mills” with zerooooo or bare minimum requirements, and there’s no standardization in clinical requirements; this leads to subpar providers,and tarnishes the good name of the profession-it also causes PAs and Physicians to doubt competency’s of NPs :/
@@naturallynursing5392 PAs arent generally any better though. They lack the experience that most NPs have. Im also speaking from personal experience..
@@LemansSunset350 I disagree. All PA programs require around 2000 hours or more of direct patient care clinical experience. Many PA students have more than that due to how competitive these programs are. The bedside nursing role is NOT the same as a medical prescribing role. So, although bedside nurses have valuable experience, it is not at all the same as working as a medical prescriber.
Thanks for being awesome! Wish my nursing school profs had your energy.
Awww thanks friend!
Totally agree! I've been interested in the VA residency program for new NP's since I heard about it so many years back. I am about 2 years from completing my DNP FNP but absolutely plan to enroll and take advantages and there are VA's located in most states.
Thank you for this!❤
I just started np school. And I'm already shopping for a residency/fellowship. It'll be a HUGE paycut from what I currently make as an rn but I believe It'll prepare me for practice and will set me up for success.
I agree with everything you said! I am planning to do an NP/PA fellowship after I graduate-if I can get in. The one I want only accepts two students a year though and it is Uber competitive.
Thanks for the video! I had no idea that these programs were even a THING. I’m a new grad RN who wants to go to NP school in a couple of years. I know that I want to work in an outpatient setting and specializing (not sure which specialty). I was worried about not having enough training in NP school, so hopefully I can find a residency program when the times comes! :)
Hopefully they are so much more available by then and you wont have any trouble finding one!
Graduating in May and I’m freaking out/excited thank you for this
of course!
Thank you, I totally agree. I applied to one Residency program thru the VA and yes very competitive. But I say apply anyway!! Hopefully more will pop up, definitely adds credibility.
for sure! the VA residency program looked pretty sweet to be honest. Fingers crossed for you!
I graduate in May, when do you think I should apply?
@@t.k.3895 apply as soon as possible but it also depends on the deadlines, the VA residency programs has already passed it was a couple of weeks ago but there are others so just Google search NP Residencyprograms. Good luck
Do you have any tips on how to increase my chances of being accepted?
@@xtinelove23 Leila, how long have you been a nurse? Honestly brick and mortar programs look at your GPA and Essay which can lead to an interview. The interview is key because programs want to see your personality and would you fit in their program. Good luck, let me know if you have anymore questions.
Thank you so much for this video, I was just looking into this (First year FNP/DNP student).
I'll for sure turn it down next time! Thank you!
Hey Liz. I'm an FNP, but work in IR. It's a pretty niche area, but one I think is super fun since you get to be hands on and learn lots of procedures. I'd do an interview if you're interested 🙂
I would love that! Can you email me?? Nurselizyt@gmail.com
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
@@NurseLiz thank you what do you look for when listening with the Littmann stethoscope?
Look up a heart sounds video! Lecturio has some great ones
Hey Liz, I have followed your channel for years. I completed NP school May of 2021. I had some life moments that occurred. Now I’m back on track and decided to apply for a second time to a NP residency program thru the VA in Southern Cali and got in!! I start next late August/early September. But I would love to come on your channel and share my application process and give interview tips and answer any questions. I agree we need these programs. Thank you for the inspiration. Kim
Hi Kim. Have you started your residency yet? Please share your experiences 🙏🙂
@@nadiamalik6987 No, I begin the program next week! I have thought about vlogging, so stay tuned I might do it! Take care
I want to hear more on your thoughts of nurse residency programs. I graduate with my ADN next year and i’ve been trying to decide between going into a residency program or to just start working. I’m still a baby nursing student but I definitely feel like I could benefit from some handholding. Especially since my patient load will increase at a job vs clinicals. My long term goal is to be an NP and I definitely think residency is the way to go there, but I still have some years ahead of me before I get to that. Love you and your videos 😁
You are an intelligent and experience upcoming ADN, not a baby. That language is only going to put you down, and is used by those who wish to discredit you. Be strong. It’s okay to ask for help without using negative language. Good luck!
Hi! I can definitely make a video on it. But basically you'll be fine either way. Really. I applied to a bunch of residency programs and didnt get into any of them. I had friends that did and they said it was basically just like an extended orientation with a few classroom days that weren't necessarily helpful. If you find a job that is willing to give you an appropriate orientation for a new grad, then you really don't need a residency program in my opinion. But either way, you really will be ok!
Hi Liz. This is my first time watching this video. What would be a normal Or recommended orientation time for a new NP.
And how an ideal orientation will look like?
Thank you
Liz - As I've said before, I've followed your journey for a number of years. I'm wondering - have you ever considered becoming a nursing coach? (Or, if you wanted to keep doing straight NP work, looking into NP concierge medical services?) You have so much wisdom to share, and I know you're absolutely burnt out from insurance companies. Coaching nursing students might be a way to provide really targeted, individualized services for a good fee. (You could even get a group of nurses trained under you to coach even more students.) And concierge medicine, while generally for the wealthy, would allow you to give recommendations and move health care outcomes in a way that felt meaningful to you. I wish you a lot of luck, my friend.
Thank you! Definitely have considered both of those!
I graduate in less than a year and I will absolutely be looking into residencies. There’s two in my area. I have networked with someone who completed it recently and she’s going to put my name out there, so fingers crossed.
A big draw back, is that these programs often don’t guarentee you a job. You won’t have one lined up at the end, so you’ll only be delaying your job search. Good news is that one year of residency makes you more marketable and more likely to get hired for your first job, at a higher salary than a fresh newbie. The residencies in my area pay in the mid to high 80s, and then you can expect to make 90s+ after that year. Totally worth it to me, and I’m all about earning my pay. 80ishk is not even a bad salary when you’re new and inexperienced. Especially compared to other starting salaries
Surviving on a nurse salary in my area is hard enough😭 I understand your points and really want more training when I graduate- but I also need to make a living 😢
Thank you, I love watching your videos. I’m in nursing school now getting my ADN and my end goal is to become an NP you have been a wealth of knowledge and support to me so far on this journey. One question though, is there a website or something to where you can find these NP residencies or do you just have to google it and search through everything?
Thanks for the love! I'm so glad they're helpful! So I found this website that has a list of some, but It's not at all all encompassing. www.nursepractitionerschools.com/resources/np-fellowship-residency-programs/ When I've looked before I typed in my geographical area and searched NP residency programs. They also show up on indeed as jobs if you search for them!
Imagine going through a master's or doctorate level program and having years of relevant work experience only to be looked down on to the extent of some of the people in these comments. The most unsafe and unethical practices I have personally encountered were at the hands of physicians. Most NPs are highly committed to providing exceptional care and always refer for anything outside of their scope of practice. Physicians aren't worried about patient safety. They are worried that they will be replaced by someone making way less.
Great video Liz! I’m a new NP. Prior to this I was a dialysis nurse for 20 years. I just landed a position with nephrology and am being considered a Fellow for my first year. I’m so grateful for the opportunity and am looking forward to practicing.
Congrats on your NP position in nephrology! I am a dialysis nurse (8+ years) and finishing my NP in December! I'm curious to know how you're liking the position (if you started)!
thats awesome!! Congratulations on the new job! I love that they are giving you that chance to just be new and learn all the things
I only wish I could find a residency program in south Florida. It's definitely a unique transition from RN to NP.
This is so informative. I don't think I was paying attention in NP school regarding a residency program in the SoCal area. Do you know of any around here?
I am not familiar with any out there. Maybe someone will see this and can jump in though
I have an interview for a primary care fellowship next week! I’m so excited!
ooooh! Fingers crossed for you! Keep me posted!
How did it go?
Thanks! I was one of two chosen out of 75 applicants! I start in March. I’m super excited! It’s a primary care fellowship so I will have my own home base family med clinic and then I have rotations throughout specialties as well.
@@andreakuenzel3483 Awesome! Congrats!
@@andreakuenzel3483 congratulation, can you tell me what fellowship program you are in? I am looking for more information as I will graduate next year.
Hi Liz. Would your opinion be the same for PMHNP new grads also?
Thank you Liz! Is there a reliable resource with all of the NP residency programs online somewhere?
Hmmmm I don't think so. At least not that I was able to find. Some websites had a compilation of ones based off of the type of specialty, but I wasn't able to find a comprehensive list.
Really wish they had part-time residencies. I would take the pay cut if they did cause it would be worth it to me.
I love the idea of APP residencies/fellowships and getting the extra training for sure . The thing that I see that’s risky about it is , if more people are doing APP residencies to the point where there is tons of competition for fewer residency spots, and then the residency trained NPs are the ones getting the jobs first because of their extra expertise and training, where does that leave all of the NPs that went through school and maybe couldn’t get into one of those residencies because there’s obviously tons of NPs graduating out there and there aren’t tons of APP residency programs? So lots of NPs will be going through school and then will have massively hard times getting jobs, struggling financially for months until they find jobs, tons of stress and feeling inadequate , taking out tons of loans and having a terrible time finding a job etc ?
This already exists. Jobs take nps with experience over those that don’t so what is the difference?
Suggestions on finding a FNP residency program? I am in Northern IN and would love to attend one! I am 1 year from graduation! Thanks!
I have no idea! hopefully someone who lives in the area and knows of one can give some input!
Can you please help us with NP interview prep? Questions they might throw at us and what to expect? How to prepare? Thank you!
I can definitely make a video on that! thanks for the idea!
Yall Im looking at residency programs for international nps, if anyone have any recommendations i will be so delightful🙏🏽
I know you said you would recommend this for all NPs, but what about new grads who have a specialty upon graduation? I'm specializing in women's health. Just curious if they have residency programs that focus on particular specialties as well.
I would go for it still! Even with a specialization like womens health, there are still so few clinical hours in a nurse practitioner program. You'll gain SO Much more knowledge in your field by completing a residency program in your specialty!
Thank you for saying that all NP’s should go through a residency. I don’t understand the sense of entitlement and ego from NPs that claim to be exactly the same as physicians and want full autonomy and higher pay, yet attend an online school with only 700 hours of clinical and claim their years of nursing experience makes them just as prepared as physicians -.- I heard an NP student the other day at my work (ER) refer to another NP as a physician. I thought it was wildly inappropriate. We all need to remember our scope of practice and actual extent of training for patient safety. Nursing experience is not the same as running a differential, taking FULL responsibility for an order and prescribing meds etc….and it’s certainly not the same as 7-10 years of medical school/medical residency at 60-100 hour work weeks. I love NPs, but we need to stop blurring safety lines, especially in hospital settings like ICU or ER.
yeah its insanity. I don't know where that attitude comes from. But it's quickly driving the profession into the ground. Glad I'm not the only one who things so!
Also RN to LPNs and RN/LPN to CNAs. We all have the same goal: care for a human being! We are all on the same team but somewhere over the years that word “team” was lost.
I don’t know if NP is Worth spending all my life time for because i have tried youtube l associates and some others and still failed 4 attempt. I feel so frustrated don't know what to do anymore don’t even have time for my own kids any more 💔💔💔😔😔.
The NP test is very difficult and frustrating to pass, I can't believe i failed after studying with so many materials😞
Frustration is a very positive sign. It means that the solution to your problem is within range, but what you're currently doing isn't working, and you need to change your approach in order to achieve your goal.
Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard you study you also need to pray to God for success
@ very correct
I’ll keep on studying till i pass no matter how many times i fail, I’ll advise you don’t give up because we all have come a long way so keep try till you get there one day or better still go get help from Mrs Cynthia
What are some of the really good NP schools you'd recommend?
There are so many! I'd avoid any that are completely online
Completed NP residency a while ago in Hawaii, and was one of the best decisions in my nursing career. Our Cohort comprised NP's from all over the country, over 30 NP's, some from Yale and Columbia just in case anyone thinks Ivy leaguers don't need more excellent training. Every Thursday, we had lectures and presentations from MDs that were fantastic and we presented on various topics as well. We spent 4 days in Connecticut with some skills training including Nexplannon insertions and when we got back we had suture training/digital blocks etc. At our various clinics, we had our own patient panels, took care of everyone including walk-in's,(seeing up to 15-18 patients/day), and then there were 7-8 week specialty rotations for the entire year with the endocrinologist (took care of the diabetics, graves disease, hypo/hyperthyroidism, Hashimoto's, etc), the nephrologist (assessed dialysis patients, ordered labs/meds), dermatologist (one on one shave/punch biopsies), orthopedic surgeon (joint injections), general surgeon (minor sutures), podiatrist, pediatrics, internal medicine, family medicine, women's health, and emergency room. This was a huge plus when applying for an NP job. The pay sucked while in residency but after completion, the compensation was beyond my wildest dream, signed the job offer so fast my pen almost broke. I hope this inspires those who are willing to learn, learning never stops just because we have 20 years of experience. Best wishes ya'll.
May I know the name of the NP residency you were in? It sounds awesome.
Can you please share the name of the residency program please????
Do you ever think of going back for DNP to educate NP students?
Maybe one day when my humans are all grown up I may go back for my doctorate in education. But I wouldn’t waste time in a DNP unless they offered a strictly educational path.
@@NurseLiz Thank you for your reply and I completely understand.
I believe residency and/or fellowship should be mandatory after done with NP school.
What is the difference between fellowship and residency.
In nursing there isn’t really a difference. In medicine, a residency is mandatory, a fellowship is not. Residencies are broad to their specialty and a fellowship is specific. For example, a family medicine residency, and an addiction management fellowship.
Feel the opposite. FNP's I think need more training out of school than Acute Care NPs. Acute students have a background and training that is far closer to that of a clinician than an FNP student.
Could you make a video of creating a Telemedicine’s practice for NP/PA? It sounds interesting but feels like a pyramid scam…
about creating one or working at one? I've never created one so I have no idea how that works.
Due to COVID, I have recently seen ad regarding NP/PA starting their own independent telehealth or telemedicine with full practice authority. I assume it is not as easy as not all states have full practice authority. But yes, working in one would be lovely to learn. So, I know what I would be going into.
I think it is a failure of np programs. They need to provide better training and clinical placements
NP residency program should be mandatory by law like medical residency.
What’s the difference between a residency and fellowship? I think I would like to do a residency.
I believe for NPs they are pretty much the same thing! Just different language. I imagine maybe a fellowship has more of a specialty focus and a residency is for a more broad area like primary care? maybe?
I totally agree with you.
1. Nurses are not realistic about becoming NP and pay.
2. Yassssssss… there should be a required residence program.
I wish if nurses stop playing doctors. No residency years will compensate for lack of foundation knowledge that going to medical school provide. Nurse practitioners can go to any specialty and practice without training in this speciality. Do you know how many years physician has to spend in training before becoming a cardiologist for example?! 3-4 years . This is after 3 years of internal medicine residency. This is 6 years at least for supervised training, and after 4 years and in other countries, 7 years of medical school, All supervised by senior physicians. NP training does not come 1/10 close to this training. If you are reading this message , please make yourself a favor and see a medical doctor even if they sign you up with a nurse practitioner. It is your right.
I think standardizing NP programs and making the standardized curriculum more rigorous should be priority for NPs. That being said additional training options are not a bad idea. However calling this additional training "residency" or "fellowship" is just another blurring between nursing practice and medical training, which is undoubtedly much more rigorous and time consuming. When someone says they went to residency or that they are fellowship trained, the layman assumes you are a physician. These additional training programs are probably more consistent with certifications. Medical residents are licensed as well, with an independent license possible after intern year of residency, and I think comparing any non-physician practitioner training to medical training cheapens the training medical trainees have to complete.
I don’t disagree with you, but with one thing. Let’s be serious, lay people do not understand nor do they know the difference between residencies and fellowships.
I honestly can't believe people would actually have the entitlement to get mad over something like the NP residency salary. Oh, just because you're not making what a full-practice NP makes? Like bro, you're a legit BABY NP. You can't do jack sh!t compared to a full-practice NP right out the gates. Freaking be glad you actually HAVE a residency program to utilize and that you actually managed to get into one. Like do these people even know about all the sh!t that new med school graduates have to go through in THEIR residencies? Utterly inhumane and nightmarish hours, at EVEN LESS pay than NP residents, and often for an even longer commitment of time than just 2 measly years. And that's not even including fellowship if they decide to do that, which is probably just more punishment but with learning greater scope of practice. Honestly imo, NPs are utterly SPOILED compared to doctors: getting to do a lot (though not all, and rightfully so) of the same things doctors can do, at 20x less stress and burnout, much shorter (AND cheaper) education time and cost, and for a pretty damn good salary at the end of the day. Like be grateful, you little brats. :| Might get some uber woke snowflakes tantruming over this, but I got my popcorn ready to enjoy the dumpster fire show. 😎🍿
That said tho, I wanna join a residency program now when I get to be an NP, God-willing. I would love nothing more than to be able to get the full experience and training likened to what a new doctor would receive (though at hopefully much less painful hours x_x). I will literally take as much mentorship and experience as I can get before just being thrown to the wolves.
Well I’ll tell you what my beef is. I am in a residency so I won’t address any of the peripheral stuff but I will say that pay wise, I see plenty of positions where they ask for 5 years of experience, suturing skills, minor procedural skills and then they pay 125k yearly and that’s in a high COL state. I think that is insulting but it is status quo and so I can understand why people think it’s a waste of time, financially, to do a residency. At least an MD will get something back in terms of pay, NPs typically do not.
Nurses don't do residency programs. Doctors do.
Doesn't mean we can't benefit from them, too!!
@@NurseLiz of course, but to use the term "residency" is intentionally misleading.
@@MrAwesomeSquad they are known as "residency" programs though. I am in a RN residency program so...
@@kraziikiim That's my point, the term "residency" doesn't mean anything anymore. DNPs like to be called "Doctor" after completing a 1 year online course. Maybe CNAs should do a "residency" too. Heck, why not the people in the gift shop?
@@MrAwesomeSquad lmaooo could you be any more bitter
Kind of like medical school? Medical students have 5000-6000 hours of clinical experience thinking like a physician, acting as one, and observing them upon graduation. The minimal experience as a nurse, acting as a NURSE, after non-standardized NP training isn’t anything “like medical school graduate”. And “you need a little bit of help?” Please stop using the word “residency”. It’s not anything like a residency. It’s not 15,000+ hours of extraordinarily supervised training. “Baby NPs” are wildly under qualified to do most anything without direct physician supervision. The notion that there is anything remotely similar to mid level extenders and a medical school graduate is insulting. You pandering to those skeptical by saying “I know some nurses want to do everything…” makes you no different. The only reason the AANP has had success in pushing NP independence is because major medical corporations love to pay you half or a third the salary and get rich off of your shotgun labs, imaging, and Google search practicing while patients know no difference. Poor patients.. they see you all in your white coats introducing yourselves as “doctor” with your DNP degree and they think you’re actually qualified to be caring for them independently. It’s truly pathetic.
Call it postgraduate training. It’s not a residency.