Digital Aristotle: Thoughts on the Future of Education
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2024
- Some thoughts on teachers, students and the Future of Education.
If there's a bookish child in your life, you should get them a copy of The Way Things Work: goo.gl/QdreH
Also I don't think that the idea of Digital Aristotle is sci-fi, but if you do want to read the sci-fi version, I highly recommend The Diamond Age: goo.gl/uvbx6
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Teachers 2019: If any of you make a noise, you're all staying in here at recess.
Teachers 2020: I got kicked out of my own zoom class.
Lol, this is so true.
That's the kind of stuff that forces one to learn moderation settings. The boss of my boss realized it after his mic got muted during a MS Teams meeting... by me, unadvertently ,-(
Right after the meeting I called my bosses' boss to apologize, out of fear he could access a log or something alike company's IT implemented on Teams in order to spot pranksters o_O
i hated recess so yay
@@qtpettra same here recess sucked, i would just read
and we were forced to play outside so i would hide and read
"If this does not blow you mind, YOU HAVE NO EMOTION."
I love Khan.
Too bad we only use his site for the questions and not the tutorials. It makes him seem like every other teaching site.
DaddyKitty04 The videos are why I use Khan Academy over IXL
I genuinely dislike khan academy. It doesn’t fit my learning style actually. I don’t think that digital Aristotle will be for everyone actually to be honest.
Some Animal Then how do you learn?
QuickScope1597 Honestly through lectures.
I wish this was here right now. Some classes I find fascinating but teachers kill my will to learn the material.
I know right? Science is my favorite subject, but then the curriculum comes along, begins teaching us things we learned in fourth grade and suddenly science is the class I hate most.
The truth is: YOU DON'T find it fascinating enough !! #StopLyingToOneself
@Sebastian Plugaru, I don't know if you're joking but from in my opinion its completely possible to find a certain science interesting its completely understandable to wana shove your head through a wall after having to go through The Scientific Method for two weeks at the start of the course. Also some students learn faster or slower than others leaving some impatient and ready to move on and having others feel stressed and rushed.
+Sebastian Plugaru I recently took college precalculus, with math(s) having long been just about my favorite - and best - subjects. I had to drop out because the professor managed to combine the worst parts of what Joshua is talking about - he spent forever going over stuff we already knew and barely touched the stuff we were there to learn. And you can't accuse me of not finding math(s) interesting, either - I watch almost every video from Numberphile, and learned more from that one UA-cam channel than I have from entire semesters of math(s) class.
So yeah. I'm willing to bet that Johnny's right and you're wrong. Good evening.
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Grey was so optimistic about how far the technology would come in 10 years.
The technology's mostly there, AI is getting more capable by the day. Figuring out what content to curate to the student and what questions to ask them is a problem not too dissimilar to the UA-cam algorithm. The issue is that there isn't really much money in it.
No, he was too optimistic how fast the society can make use of technology.
RIP history channel.
ikr !!
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The history channel is history.
may god rest the soul to the history chanel
He didn't: there are whitepapers about it.
"get 3 teachers in a room and ask them how education should be done and youll get 3000 answers" -my uncle, a teacher
"This is known as... the History Channel Effect."
Shots fired.
As a college student I can honestly say that about 5 percent of my learning is in class, 70 percent is youtube and 25 percent the book. Maybe I have only had shitty teachers but the last 2 years seems like I'm paying a lot of money to teach myself. I'll be happy when I have that piece of paper.
Did you get your piece of paper?
@@cynthiamccullough3718 I did. It helped me in no way, so I went into the trades. Now I work on powerlines and make about 120k a year.
@@popofabulous Wow! That's awesome. I hope you are always able to stay safe.
@@cynthiamccullough3718 I do my best! I worked the Texas Ice Storm a few months back. No regrets about my career path and I've definitely got a ton of interesting stories to tell from doing the job haha!
@@popofabulous More of you are needed in the world.
"A is for Axiom, your home sweet home. B is for Buy 'n' Large, your very best friend..."
@@Blade.5786 What? "John Beasley?"
looks like he changed “Dread Simulator- 4K fucking your mom” to “John Beasley”
Its from wall-e
Wall-e
@@awesomemantroll1088 Woah this is real weird. You seem to be replying to me,yet my original comment disappeared. Wtf UA-cam, I know you did something. If you remember what I was talking about 8 months ago, please inform me,Mr Awesome Man Troll. I'm dying to know
I can just imagine in 5-19 years from now, Grey industries presenting digital Aristotle for everyone
then it turns out that the history channel is running Grey industries
5-19 thousand years from now. I do the same things as my gradma has done at her school 60 years ago and nothing seems to change
Harry Breeg if only
@@tudororza True,but 5-19 years is too little time and 5-19 thousand years is too much time. Let's just say,75-150 years
Not Grey Industries but Grey Jr industries am I right
"after all schools aren't just about-" oh yes socialising is very important for children too "-freeing adults to work in the economy as they turn their feral children into civilised adults" ookay then
i mean, hes not wrong.
@@ecogreen123 He didn't claim it to be the only other reason also.
children socialized well before there were schools.
I had the exact same experience lol
Socializing the way schools do it is crap
I’ve learned so much information through the internet. It taught me how to program, pre-calculus, foreign languages, history, geography, and so much more.
There is but one issue.
None of it mattered, I still had to relearn it in actual school because nobody gives a damn about anything other than the piece of paper you get after high school and the piece of paper you get after college.
Real knowledge is near useless without a piece of paper saying who gave it to you.
It’s a sad world.
It's sad but understandable, if a student just said "oh, i watched *insert random education video or channel" and got a diploma without watching the dam thing, then our society would crumble if this was done on a large scale.
For that reason i find it a bit / very demotivating to go and learn some interesting things online, cause then i'll just be really bored in class
I love it how that grey always rips the History Channel apart
10 years later and we get GPT4. Did you think you'd be right so fast?
"If this does not blow your mind, you have no emotion."
No I just have no IQ that's all..
You have no... EQ
That's nothing to be understood intuitively, as it builds on the knowledge about complex numbers. No hard stuff at all, but nevertheless something you need to be familiar with in order to understand where this formula comes from and why it is incredibly beautiful.
you should have used the reply option and yes i know this was 2 years ago
Can’t believe this video is almost a decade old! And still applies. It would be nice to see an updated version.
Most of the top comments here oppose this idea and I'd like to address the core ideas of some of their arguments:
1) "Computers and numbers could never teach as well as a real teacher could" Although computers aren't going to be as understanding and emotional as a real teacher, I would like you to think about this. The point of the teacher is not to understand the student, the point of the teacher is to teach. Cgp Grey is totally right when he says that the teacher in a classroom full of students cannot teach all the students individually as well as a computer personalized to each students could. Most of the students fall behind, and some are too far ahead to learn everything, and a small fraction is actually learning at a good pace. As we've seen for decades teachers can't teach everyone the way they need to be taught to learn the most
2) "A computer cannot teach language" Your forgetting that computers do teach language. Although they are just as bad as public school a whole lot of students already take digital classes and learn from them, from everything from language to programming to math digital classes do help people learn(although what Cgp is suggesting here would be way better then the digital classes we have today)
3) "A computer cannot teach discipline" It is not the computers job to teach discipline its the parents job, and you have to remember that large amounts of discipline are required in normal schools today, but if everyone had a digital Aristotle and did school at home while some discipline is needed to keep the student on course there isn't nearly as much involved and to some extent computers can teach discipline even if they aren't as good as teachers
4) "I wouldn't want me or my children to be taught by a mindless robot monster" This program is not aimed to be a mindless robot monster. Modern TV and video games often show computers like this but remember all your social media including the one that's allowing you to comment on this video right now is run by "Mindless Digital Monsters" and you don't care. Modern programming isn't some mindless digital monster droning something into your brain. You must have noticed that modern social media adapts to your tastes and sees what you like, well an educational tool like this could do that too.
5) Throw as many arguments as you want at this, but step back and look at our modern educational system. Its horrible, broken in almost every way and its only ideas like digital Aristotle that can change that.
I could go on and on with this but I've made this so long that not many people will bother to read this already, but I am in full support in all or most of the things mentioned in this video! I am one of those students that often finds classes boring because I'm ahead, and you really really do feel like your being held back.
Well here are some new points. I'll keep it as short as I can.
1) "The Internet is a choice". The internet, though wonderful is apparently a choice. If anyone were the choose between tiring hours of studies and games, I think you can already guess where the majority will shift to.
2) "Boost in asocial behavior". Millennial are already as asocial as can be. This will only further it. If you think the Internet makes good friends, well I guess you haven't been reading the news on pedophilia luring children through the web or other cyber crimes in general. School is the best place to make friends. Or at least to learn.
3) "Disciplines are taught in school". Yes discipline may be parents' job but considering the attitude of many the baby boomers and the whiny spoilt millennial, schools are still the best choice for discipline. Some parents are terrible at discipline and in most cases, it is the school who teaches discipline to the children. I'm not sure about the west but in Asia, especially East Asia where I'm from. Discipline are strict and parents barely have time for their kids. You can't blame them, they're busy making money to make your life less miserable. Children then have to find their discipline in schools, from teachers.
4) "Teachers are better teachers than the internet". Although not always the case, teachers provide a better explanation than the internet. They can give you a direct answer to your questions or give you a direct source to better understand your questions and for a lazy person, you don't have to spend hours on the screen to find what you're looking for. If you haven't noticed, not everyone can learn on their own and even in old times, intellectuals spend years browsing through written information to find an definite answer to their questions. And I can promise you not much of us are willing to go that far. Most would give up half way and do other things.
5) "High dependence on technology". We're already beginning to hit the wall. We rely too heavily on our devices and hardly can many kids do without it. Take a calculator for example. (I am not against the invention of calculators fyi before you begin giving me names) A calculator is a great invention. Helps us ease our time consumed in calculating numbers, and improve its accuracy. A tremendous invention, only if used by scientists, mathematicians, and grown up in general who's too busy to fuss their time with minor calculation. But children on the other hand, do not need it. (Except university students who are not exactly kids anymore) Maths is a topic that improves our critical thinking but by allowing the children to use their calculator during maths class, they only reduce the usage of their brains. Therefore, weakening its growth.
I can rant some more about the disadvantage of a computerize education system but I'm sure not much will bother reading anyways. School is not only a place to get literal learning but also other learning as well. I don't know what kind of school is the west but from where I'm from, I learnt many things from my school even though I hated it. I do not support a computerized education system but an improvement on the educators.
Gwendolyn Peterson: Actually I think most of the objections are from teachers watching their sense of job security evaporate. ;)
I full-heartedly agree with this statement.
Loukas Frantzolas I'm not exactly sure that counts as an argument. Computers can "fake" emotions, and teachers don't really use an emotional connection to teach people.
@Paul fu
1) to that point i say thats why the school system is kept. Yes of their own volition they will keep to games but in school hours the programs will shift to education
2) cyber crimes have nothing to do with this argument and neither does sociability. We are still HAVING a school system that wasnt the argument here, we are just having a school system with a program designed to help teach us better than a regular teacher.
3) the steretype of millenials being spoilt is statistically innacurate, and we still have a school.
4) the internet under this system will have a database of every explaination teachers will give to find the most effective explanations so that is completely false
"This is called the History Channel affect."
I love you.
Finally someone realizeses what happened to history channel!
Mike Markocki Plebeians are just figuring it out =p
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No, I mean the useless eaters =)
Effect not "affect".
WholeNwon Actually, it can be spelled both ways; just like how you can spell "neighbor" like "neighbour."
Well made point. It stands to reason that education will become optimized as time passes, similar to the way that the selection process works on a species to conform it to environmental demands, and a scientific or technological framework can enable/expedite this. The thing that I am _not_ so quick to dismiss: our innate tendency to learn from authority. I still listen to my mother; that's how I learn best.
So...7/8 years later, still the old system
Yes and no... It's not easy to see the changes, because they take place so very slowly, but they are definitely happening.
You really think 8 years is enough to completely abolish a hundred years old institution?
The development of new things doesn't assume the abolishment of the old in succession, many school systems aren't services but profit motivated institutions, which isn't the fault of individual schools but the economic system that pervades aspects of life, the education system of many are hurt because some countries' economic system value profit over access, and intentionally push resources away from public education because it doesn't give them money, this makes education inaccessible to many without money, and it doesn't improve for the students' benefit, it only changes if it can be exploited for profit. So unless we can push for a full public education system that's motivated by the pursuit of education and not markets, we'll have to rely on secondary means of education until it is socially embraced
I quit school and im learning myself why not happened ?
Partly yes, because it's tied to the economy. But things have already changed. Given how much better educational content is on UA-cam compared to what's being taught by lecturers, I've seen people pull up concise well-edited videos of the topic, watch it, do practice problems, and get a solid understanding of the whole thing before the lecturer is even done introducing the subject. Outside of school, this is even more common with people opting to watch a few brief, clear UA-cam videos over a boring and poorly organized 2 hour lecture.
maybe now school has the time for programming classes, how-to-live-your-life-after-school classes and other stuff that can realy help children to find their place in the world when they grow up.
by the way, great video!
I watched this a couple years ago, saw it in my reccomended and realized between the last time I watched it and now I've been both the student ahead, the student for who it's the right pace and the student who's behind.
same situation here
"Feral children"
Loltastic.
+Dotson Carter I'm going to start using that to see if it catches on.
Lindsey S.
How has it been going?
I read that as "lolitastic". Help me.
Brian L ii
Damn, watching this in 2021 feels odd. Khan Academy has come a long way. Gotta give props to whoever made it. Helped me a lot during online school. But I dont see an Educational Utopia, I just see my pilled up over due homework.
Great video! I think you deal with many of the problematic issues that plague education historically and today. Your solution is interesting and, I think, has great potential. The one thing you forget about is that children are humans and not floating heads (a common error when dealing with education). We need teachers (though possibly fewer as you suggest) because teaching as about relationship, not content. Teachers will always be need to help children find what they need/want to learn and to think critically about sources.
You make great thought provoking videos. Thank you.
that happened to the Discovery Channel as well, now its just a bunch of stupid dudes tunning up cars or bikes.
...and having shows about nude people outside.
And to "the learning channel"...aka TLC, which is arguably where the worst reality TV was originally born (pun intended, if you remember the show "a baby story") lol
that doesnt seem like the history channel effects, seems like discovery went to a different route to complete laziness
RIP Mythbusters
No, what about How Do They Do It
I think the purpose of teachers is not just to transfer information but also to inspire and challenge the children they're trying to educate. That, and their support, I think are crucial to a child's education.
Well this can be done better without teachers. Replacing computers with humans is nothing but a win for humanity i dont see why people are so against that. There will be a time no human will ever work for living, they would work for making humanity a better civilization so by replacing human with bots we can focus on our goal better.
Little-known fact, scroll to the Khan Academy footer and you can set the language to LOLcatz. I'm not kidding.
Macbook Air-istotle
:)
*clap* *clap* *clap*
lol
@@leeroberts4850 tbh
Lame!
I'd love to see him address this again after all we know about zoom education and how going digital actually drastically widened the gap between poor and rich students.
This is because tech is expensive but once we get a much easier and cheaper way to make tablets and other electronic devices, trust me, this will become global. A major change like that can't happen in 9 years without disrupting the Globel Balance.
@@billcipherproductions1789 thanks for the mansplain, dude. I'm a college professor so I'm actually in the field, working with these students. 🤷 If you think this has to do with electronics expense then you are missing the bigger picture by a country mile.
"This is known as the 'History Channel Effect'" I completely lost it there.
This is a interesting discussion and an exciting image of the future. I have a four year old and a seven year old. I am not capable of being a teacher, but I do have a lot of ideas I wish I could incorporate into my children's education. Something like this would allow me to have a hand in molding the direction and topics of my girls education. Hopefully it would help me know when I could do the most good and when I shouldn't help. It would be fantastic to see a system like this available in the near future. I would love to have my children free from traditional school, allowing us to explore and grow together but not letting my children get behind in essential areas. My greatest concern if I was to homeschool my kids would be my inability to keep up in areas where I am weak. I am fortunate enough that I can afford to have my children involved in after-school activities and clubs so I believe that I could minimize the isolation that I see many home schoolers fall into. If I could have a personal tutor that allowed me to be involved to maximize my effectiveness while keeping my children on course, they would be out of public school tomorrow.
Personally for me, there are some subjects that go too slow for me, and some subjects that go too fast. For instance, in Algebra, I understand most of it and it's easy, but then there will be one lesson I don't understand, and by the end of the lesson I still don't understand it.
+Gilda Beilschmidt Yeah I know what you mean I was doing polynomials for a couple of weeks and it was really easy until one part of it tripped me up and i still dont quite get it
did you undetstand quadratics
@@lawrencemorris2261 what's that?
Thats the same for everyone. Everyone is better at learning some stuff than at other stuff
The worst part is when the teacher asks "Any questions?"
Oh you optimistic crazy person. You so underestimate the teacher's unions and ability to smash your dreams to hold onto their established models.
+Major Ramsey The real truth... :/
They probably will slow it down, but technology marches relentlessly on. It's only a matter of time (baring some kind of disaster).
+Major Ramsey Not all countries have teacher's unions. In some countries teachers can only get contracts ranging from a few months to a few years, after which they have to change schools and can only keep their careers going if they are performing well both by the school standards and the parents' standards, and only if there is enough demand. On the other hand in these places a teaching profession appears to be in higher regard and better compensated compared to USA (at least relative to the average).
Al Su Sounds good to me. What country is this?
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Fight the good fight...
A Teacher isn't simply someone who says the facts and leaves, they interac with the students, make sure that they are actually learning and are always there for everything that may be required, be it a question or something else.
How school is now:
Everyone is on zoom
Yeah I hate it my expectations and hope was shot down really quick
or homeschooling-
I have been thinking about this video periodically since I watched it 10 years ago and I truly think that Khan Academy launching Khanmingo might finally signal that arrival of Digital Aristotle. Exciting times!
We need teachers. Period. A 10 year old with a tablet with wi-fi will sure as shit not sit and do calculus.
exactly. need human interaction as well as most of the poeple on this planet have not that high of a discipline to sit and study without a push.
The idea would be that the tablet would be running this digital aristotle and the child could only do calculus on the tablet not anything else (ie. browse the web or play games which current computers and tablets in schools do)
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All by himself? You think a child has the discipline to do that?
No, but im agreeing with what grey said, there will be LESS teachers
Yeah, the digital Aristotle only helps with one specific aspect of teaching: the raw acquisition of knowledge. But teachers aren't just there to give facts and subsequently tests, they're there to motivate, and inspire the students to want to learn. Most kids don't inherently see the value in learning something that isn't immediately practical, and motivated teachers help kids overcome that urge of just giving up, something I can see becoming more and more important as digital distractions increase.
The digital Aristotle will free up teachers to purely focus on the philosophy of learning, on sparking interest in the students rather than spending countless hours devising teaching plans and tests, but we will still be needing teachers, just one with a more focused job description. Not to mention giving the kids an authority figure to bounce their ideas and questions off.
IF THIS DOES NOT BLOW YOUR MIND YOU HAVE NO EMOTION
milkerfish I don't have emotions :(
I am SO glad that you were right-ish for this quarantine. Yes, there are still huge issues, horrendous problems with the current Education System (not a revolutionary statement), but I am so glad that tutorials on "what the hell is the quadratic equation?", "I need help with the cycle of carbon", and "please, I don't understand statistics at all" exist nowadays so that we don't have to go to the library (ADHD doesn't make reading that much fun) or have to hire a personal tutor or just cry because finals (that last one will always happen but it won't be as bad as before). Having videos explaining the subject that I'm having problems with and being able to pause, read the comments, check the sources has made my life so much easier
I think that having some sort of program like this would be huge for students with Asperger's or similar conditions, such as myself. Not only has it been difficult for me to do as well in school as I'd like to do because I've always been ahead of my peers intellectually, but I also have had a difficult time doing homework, especially with assignments that involve a crapload of writing. Having an individualized teaching program like this would increasingly help people like me use their different neurological setup as an asset instead of seeing it as a hindrance.
So we're here, right?
As someone with a learning difference who seriously struggles in school and who's been continuously falling behind more and more these past few years, I am seriously looking forward to this concept.
In my particular case, I mean ADHD. I say "learning difference" instead of "learning disorder" because in my personal opinion, and also in the opinion of many ADHD-having public figures, there's nothing actually intrinsically wrong with having ADHD. It can actually be seen as an advantage in many ways, since it comes with a lot of cool mental things other than a typically shorter attention span (like hyperfocus and increased creativity), and the only unfortunate thing about it is that the school system SUPER does not favour you, therefore I can't really fare well in an environment not designed for my time of brain. Basically what it means I'm drawing a line between learning "disorder" and learning "difference" and upholding the opinion that what I have is simply a difference, as opposed to something wrong with me. Does this answer your question? :)
Haha! Sorry if that was a long, rambly answer. Basically, the idea that education is a one-size-fits-all model is not something I believe in, so the idea proposed in this video is really cool
As an Autistic who has lost out on several years of maths, I would absolutely love for this to become a thing in some form during my years in school.
Here's hoping that Digital Aristotle is accessible, unlike so much of the internet :\
Unfortunately this isn't coming in your life time.
Duolingo is doing a pretty good job of being my digital Aristotle for learning another language, though I have to supplement it with googling WHY some things work the way they do when I can't determine from observation and trial/error. It does a good job of letting me add new material when I get comfortable, and letting me stay and practice more when I need to get a better grip on something new. When I supplement it with video tutorials and immersion (my husband's family only knows Spanish, which I'm studying), it does a better job than any of the public school and higher education classes I've flunked out of over the decades. Self-serve education is much more effective in my case, so I'm glad and incredibly lucky to have these resources available.
Every kid deserves their own Aristotle. I want a tutor like that.
The pandemic really really shifted the perspective on this. 1. Schools are desperately needed for children to socialize. 2. Being stuck at home reduces attention, is psychologically taxing, and can keep students in bad situations for much more of the day. 3. Learning and teacher-student relationships are best achieved in-person, no matter how interactive the technology is. 4. A computer and the internet can stop working for no reason, but people only stop working for a reason, never randomly without cause.
Aside from pandemic-related reasons, until algorithms can simulate endless human semantics, an in-person teacher will be (at least on average) better at and more available to provide explanations needed for student comprehension.
Schools only became essential for socializing because they pushed away other forms of socialization in favor of a coerced indoctrinating environment.
*raises hand* Um who is programing Aristotle? Is it the Government?
The great thing about multiple teachers is (in theory) you get exposed to multiple points of view about the world. This is also the cool thing about learning through the internet. What happens when everyone is taught by only one point of view (whatever the program's is)? I suppose you can program this educational software to present various points of view, but it kind of seems like a totalitarian societies wet dream to have a state approved program teaching everyone to be good citizens. What would (for example) China's "digital Aristotle" look like?
Lmao no
This seems like a simple problem to (hypothetically) be solved by merely copy pasting the process with digital Aristotle to make digital Plato, digital Einstein ,etc. Thus introducing multiple views while keeping those dreams dry. (The real problem would be accurately capturing their thoughts and how they would handle new ones.
"It's not good enough to say there is opposition but to hear the views from the oposition".
A totalitarian state would love you to hear only its view. But a 'good' (effective) totalitarian state would LOOOOVE to control what the 'opposing' view is as well.
Digital Aristotle here isn't a pre programmed personality, it's an algorithm that pulls knowledge and teaching material from a library. While governments and the authors can determine what goes into that library the machine itself will simply pick whatever it considers best for the student in question based on statistics.
Multiple teachers don't expose you to different point of views. The curriculum is handled by whatever the given institution considers best.
Digital Aristotle is simply automizing the job the Curriculum developers for any given institution would be doing.
@@siraethelwulf8914 Algorithms (in computing) when sorting information have to have bias. That is simply how they work. A* for path finding has a bias and that's just movement.
We fall into the Nietzsche-esque philosophy where due to us not being perfect designers we will make imperfect designs so we cannot and should not put our faith into anything sole thing we build.
0:40 I like that Ferris Buller's Day Off reference.
3:38 Sal's soothing voice it golden static dipped into platinum screen presentations
Today I was impressed by the chatgpt 4o presentation and remembered this video. I think we have seen a big step forward with this “o” update.
Not only the technical ability of AI to teach, but also to do so while creating the illusion of an emotional companion and supportive teacher.
And I realize that I'm just looking at the first rudiments of those incredible technologies that will become the everyday life of the future.
It will be interesting to come back to this video
Structured education with some pressure is still necessary.
Especially the teaching regarding to Linguistic abilities and mathematics, perhaps also ethics and general social science. Some system must be in place, to make sure kids can't press the skip button and ditch any of these courses.
Why?
Colin Broadwater Society can't function properly if you have too many people need to count their fingers to do their maths, or people can't read or write properly, which hinders communication. Agree?
+Derrick Liu Wouldn't the people have to be able to read and write properly or be able to do basic addition to be able to pass the tests?
I think digital aristotle only works if you are self-motivated. And the government is very risk averse and even though he claims its cheaper than current schools its still expensive to switch systems which is why you see some government offices still using punch card machines and type writers instead of fancy laptops.
My teacher said that even if nowadays you can learn from internet there are so much distractions that you will need strong motivation,
And she said how different it is as teacher and an educator, she said that teacher makes you smart, educator makes you educated, teacher gives you knowledge to solve life's problems, educator gives you moral advice on how to solve life's problems
both are equally needed for the goodness of a person
Smart but not good you will be evil that make others suffers
Good but not smart you will be outsmarted by the above guy
This is now my favorite video on your channel
There was one huge problem in this, is student motivation and monitering against student distraction
Yep, the students who can't understand this lesson because they're missing knowledge they should already have 0:44 were probably playing with their iphones in the previous lessons and are about to start playing with them again in this lesson... and that's with a real live teacher stood there trying to stop them playing with their iphones.
You know how parental controls work right? Something similar can be done for school computers if the teacher enters the right code to put the class into learn mode.
If the students would rather sacrifice their education than endure the supposedly “engaging” lessons, then perhaps that says more about the curriculum and school system than the students’ discipline. If you have to resort to using measures like confiscating phones and parental controls, you have already failed at creating an engaging and well-structured system. In fact, often times discipline and a lack of education go hand and hand, indicating a loose guidance and incentive system is better than the more traditional methods implemented today.
@@joinedupjon If the class was interesting enough, the students would not use their iphones to keep their brains engaged. Too bad the class is shit lol.
@@comradecat5057 Yeah, but even if you're the most inquisitive pupil out there, from time to time you got one of these days where you're just not in the mood for anything - even more so if you entered puberty. Plus for almost everyone there are those subjects they're just not on fire for.
Engagement and incentives ain't everything. Sometimes learning simply requires work.
Do you think Digital Aristotle could be a future version of Chat GTP?
I think the idea offers a wonderful model for providing knowledge, but as a teacher, I wish to believe that I am providing more than just facts and knowledge in my high school classroom; I teach them character and value while helping them with personal problems and even family issues. Maybe one day the digital technology will be mature enough to provide
all the wisdom in the world, but at the moment, there is no effective digital replacement for those who guide and inspire us.
Have your ideas changed at all with the pandemic?
That conference must have been amazing... 5 amazing youtubers, including you, that I think have had a great impact on internet education? I'm sure discussions must have been great!
And here we are almost 10 years later. You can use the internet to learn about any subject you want, so long as you understand the internet enough to know where to find reliable information.
Those people who had Grey as a teacher were extremely lucky
Because of the internet, I've learned more than Aristotle ever could.
I've become more powerful than any philosopher has ever dreamed of.
Since the pandemic my school has changed so that instead of having 2 semesters we have 4 and it makes the class go by so much faster and ive noticed that it’s raised my grades overall by maybe 5% so I totally agree with this video, digital Aristotle for everyone would be amazing!
This is literally my dream. It would be amazing to have this.
Back here again with Khan Academy just having announced that they will be integrating GPT4 (the latest iteration of the OpenAI - GPT - model, what ChatGPT uses) as a private tutor.
The future is here!
I would love to see an update on this
Dear CGP,
I'm a teacher too and I recently subscribed to your channel, so I've stumbled on a video that is already quite old. I recall you once said that you never look at old video's once they're done, so you probably won't see this, but it's worth a shot.
For my studies I have looked at the development of education (mainly in the language field) and one thing I have generally concluded for myself, is that education is a slow moving beast. Teachers will try to keep it the old way for multiple reasons (keeping work familiar, not losing their job...)
I'm not one of those teachers, I'm all for change. Even if that means that I will have to give up standing before groups of children and go make educational youtube video's. The point I want to make is, that in this short video there are a few issues you have not addressed (of course). I would love to hear your thoughts on this one. You mentioned: "When for every topic of human endeavour it (the internet) is able to take the best and brightest kids further down the path of knowledge than their teachers ever could."
It so happens I am a teacher who mainly teaches the students that struggle. They have little motivation for learning and a very short attention span. Educational video's on youtube nowadays are mainly being watched by nerdy types, or at any rate people in the 'intelligent bubble', for lack of a better term. How will this system prevent the struggling kids from being left behind? Any thoughts?
Best wishes,
Lilian
(a teacher from the Netherlands)
I would love to see the updated version of this video someday.
We need to collectively boycott History channel until it changes it's name...
I concur
Either change the name or actually feature accurate history programs(like they use to have).
I never watched it anyway
Given their current audience, I don't think every single person watching this video boycotting the History Channel would have much effect on their view count
PendulumFTW I never have cable anyway. LOL.
Here we are approaching 4 years from this videos release, are we much closer? Has there been any more signs that such changes in education are happening or going to happen?
As a current High School student, no.
4 years might be optimistic. 10? maybe. 50? definitely. it will take a radical shift; the structure of schools is entrenched in society; we'd have to change how we fund them, train people for them, and test from them, etc.
It'd take either a radical event (like a war economy or something, or massive protests in the streets) or a long time. And i dont really see protests happening lol, its not that big or serious. so...decades in the future, maybe
schools in the US especially will never change, unless its an elite private school, they teach you whats going to be on a test to make them look good, tahts where the rest of the world is superior
Nie tutaj hey my highschool had fuck all, they had shit for poutine, SOME salad shit and pizza, that was about it
I am taking all of my University courses completely online now, and I get to read textbooks and watch UA-cam videos to learn the material at home. The only thing that I have to leave home for is Invigilated Exams, but even then they now have an option to Invigilate exams through online monitoring, where you set up a camera so your invigilator can watch you do your exam. I don't know if this was possible 5 years ago, but it's been possible for me to do Grades 1-12 and all of college/university from home.
I hope people adapt distance learning into this and just keep it that way even after quarantine. Like you learn on your own but go to school a few days a week for art/physical classes and so that you can ask teachers questions or whatever. That way everyone can more or less learn at their own pace
Sophie Bruch yes I agree completely
This is what I've learned so far from youtube so far:
To type using 10 fingers on keyboard
To play guitar
To make scripts. When I was student I used to make and sell personalized scripts for some online MMORPGs. Both bot farming and pvping.
To pass my business economics exam(B) even though I've not been in a single lecture.
Day trading! This one been most useful so far.
ChatGPT might be the new born Digital Aristotle!
"If this doesn't blow your mind, you have no emotion"
I knew that thanks...
School systems are way back in middle ages. We add a few shiny toys and call it "modern". As you said, but to concretize it:Schools will become public learning centers for people of all age, with areas of recreation. They will be built around computers: interactive programs and VR to teamwork with other people in order to learn new skills. There will be spaces for socialization, but as we progress, our society will become more individualistic and less oriented around socialization with people that happen to be near you. Instead, people will choose their friends independently of their locations. There will be studies with different learning methods testing comprehension and retention of different types of individuals. In the end, everybody will have a learning program suited for his/her needs. The program will also care of the subconscious mind responsible for motivation or the lack of it. People will listen to audio tracks that make them remember the material they've learned while getting some sorts of affirmations.
I asked ChatGPT what it thought of this video.
Me: Do you think you could be a digital Aristotle for everyone? Particularly, I'm thinking of the CGP Grey video from about 10 years ago called, "Digital Aristotle: Thoughts on the Future of Education" and I think you might be the key piece to make what he was talking about real. What do you think?
GPT: As an AI language model, my main function is to provide information and answer questions to the best of my abilities based on my training data. While I can certainly provide a wealth of information on a wide variety of topics, I am not designed to be a replacement for human teachers, mentors, or guides.
GPT: That being said, I do believe that AI and technology in general have the potential to transform education and make learning more accessible, personalized, and efficient. Digital tools like online courses, interactive simulations, and adaptive learning systems can supplement traditional teaching methods and help learners acquire knowledge and skills in new and innovative ways.
GPT: As for being a "digital Aristotle", I think that my capabilities as an AI language model can certainly be useful in the context of education. For example, I can provide students with instant feedback on their writing, help them research and analyze information on a given topic, or even generate personalized study materials based on their learning preferences and progress.
GPT: However, it's important to remember that education is about more than just acquiring information. It's also about developing critical thinking skills, creativity, communication, and a sense of curiosity and wonder about the world. These are qualities that can be fostered through human interaction, collaboration, and mentorship, and they are harder to replicate with purely digital tools.
GPT: So while I think that AI and technology have an important role to play in education, I also believe that human teachers and mentors will continue to be essential in helping learners reach their full potential.
Education cannot leave behind human emotional interconnection. Teachers don’t teach knowledge, more importantly they teach students the significance of learning the “what does it all mean”. Humans are meaning creating organisms, without that touch, all knowledges are meaningless. Digital Aristotle might be able to teach the knowledge but I doubt it would be able to teach the meaning of learning, since the action of meaning-giving is something quite human-only. Even the idea of digital Aristotle is an act of human giving meaning to our society development and try to see what’s best for the future. An digital Aristotle who’s able to replace teachers would only be possible when he’s also able to care humanity as much as humans do.
The crappy part about this concept is, is that I can go to these sites and learn about everything possible but that's not something I can put on a resume. Companies don't care if you got you education from the internet. To them if you don't have a piece of paper saying you're educated , you're not educated.
How about start your own company? Because even if you presented that piece of paper and were hired, chances are layoffs aren't too far away =)
Rotun Duh
Because that totally works and won't lead to almost certain bankruptcy in todays world, leaving you with even more debts than before? Unless you have a groundbreaking idea, new companies are pretty much doomed to fail. Sorry, but what worked 50 years ago doesn't work today anymore.
I think you're talking about opening a food service business. In which case you're correct, that would lead to certain bankruptcy.
This is a case in which those for-profit universities actually fill a need. You can buy a degree.
Maybe education is about more than getting a job.
Just love it. Thank you so much for sharing these important considerations with us, your peers.
Here is how history classes worked in my school: I was doing all the research that I needed, if any, before the class, and then was just trolling the teacher by asking uncomfortable questions (for example, about the percentage of population eligible to vote in the enlightened USA just after the revolution versus that in the undemocratic Ancient Athens).
Adorable...
I love you, and if you're in the USA i love you even more
yall some nerds ong
"If this does not blow your mind, you have no emotion" funniest shit ever from a Khan Academy instructor
There’s one more challenge that you didn’t mention. How do we get every kid to want to learn topic X? Even Aristotle needed a pupil that saw the value in learning.
Love this video! This is why I made Algebra Tutor. It's not quiet a Digital Aristotle, but it's a step in that direction. There are many obstacles (mostly nothing to do with technology), but I hope we get there soon.
3:14 the "7x8=?" is not aligned with the tablet.
UA-cam is my favorite teacher.
agreed
It's 2019.
Nothing happened :(
Look at the newest coments sweetheart
It's 2020. Things have happened....
Just wait
Looking back on this 6.5 years later and sad how little progress we've made towards this model.
…as long as it's not made by Microsoft or Apple and is non-proprietary software. (Actually Apple do occasionally release non-proprietary stuff like CUPS.)
CowLunch Apple didn't start CUPS, so they kinda had to keep it open. They use it in their BSD-based OS X though.
David Chipman I see, didn't know that.
Yes, it's used in Linux distributions too.
+CowLunch So a Government owned project? That's not much better though xD
+Drew Ivan eighter google or improvements by kahn academy. Google has been open-sourcing a ton on stuff like TensorFlow and they have been focusing on improving humanity significantly more, regardless of profit.
I was always super ahead in math, and felt like class moved to slow. And rather than going in order, my math knowledge is kinda all over the place. So I can breeze through logic problems while proofs are hard and annoying. And the other classes I'm almost always behind in.
The control such a system would have on a society, particularly the children, is equally immense. How would the ethics of such an educational pipeline be worked out? How do you leave out left or right bias in the material presented?
4:38 I think it's not about "there will be far fewer teachers", but more like "there will be far more students involved per teacher". My opinion is based from the fact that there are still a lot of children who don't have access to education in my country....
I'm a Finnish Teacher student and this idea of a personal aristotle is fascinating, but i have two questions for you.
I think that School is lot more than place to learn stuff, its about socialization and growing to a society as much as it is to learn maths etc. This brings me to the question. Do you think that digital aristotle can be a real social being that can help students to grow as a humans and as a part of society? Wouldnt it demand that digital aristotle is an absolute artificial intelligence that is grown to our society.
Or do you think that with digital aristotle the role of teacher should change to more of an parent than a teacher that helps people socialize?
This video is now 4 years old, and in your recent Q&A you mentioned that you were more of an techno optimist, but after you read the superinteligence it made you doubt that artificial intelligence (as suppose digital aristotle) maybe one threat to humankind. My point is Digital and techincal advances can be powerful tool in education but it may be that it can't replace human interaction at education.
Oh we arent gonna abolish schools, theres no way the teachers’ union is gonna let that happen. Were just gonna have a ton of ipads with specially designed technology to help people learn better.
I can't wait for my Digital Aristotle.
wish it came faster, cause then I wouldn't have a shitty gpa just because of spanish
I hope these will be more accurate than Aristotle.
+Josh Adams Oh come on, all your phisics will be screwed up just alike between 2000 years
+Seth Heristal It already is screwed up, and we're acutely aware of how ridiculously screwed up it is. But at the same time, as broken as our understanding of physics may be, it works pretty fucking well for nearly everything a human needs to be concerned with. Newton's laws were wrong as well, but they're still a useful tool for doing quick and simple calculations that result in answers accurate enough for almost all large-scale phenomena.
02:30 The TV program in the middle is called Connections (by James Burke) and its amazing. Its about how seemingly unrelated things are actually related and its a great way to learn history. Its also available on UA-cam.
I basically handwaved this whole concept back when this video was released, but ten years later KhanAcademy is still my go-to if I need to brush up on skills I haven't touched in a while. I'm on board with this concept now, not even as a "this is inevitable and we'll need to learn to live with it" kind of way but in the "this will be a powerful tool in the near future" kind of on board. However I think the system here will have the noticeable limitation of failing at a level of education where students are expected to have original ideas and begin pushing back against their instructors, such as the collegiate level (not that college students in general actually do this nor all college professors encourage it). I think we'll need to cross over a significant barrier in technological development to reach that point.
Wow, I want that future now!
The last few months as a teacher has shown just how little teachers have to fear from this just yet, not thanks to technical ability but because of the students themselves.
roasted
That sounded more depressing then it should, not because of the teachers but because of the students.
What are you talking about?
"you should get them a copy of The Way Things Work:"
I saw this in the description and it sounded familiar. I saw the front cover in the video, and I grew up with that exact book! I still have it sitting on my son's bookshelf for when he's old enough to read it.
0:16 pi is wrong
I'm Rick Harrison and THIS is my Pawn shop
We learn about the history of other people’s bank accounts
Soon.
I'm from 10 years later! This is almost a thing nowww!
it is ?