Switch 2 Rumours: New Joy Cons? 7nm Processor? 4 TFLOPs?
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Man the internet sure has fried people's brain, to the point where a "portable Series S" in 2025 is deemed as "outdated and disappointing", when not even a Rog Ally (700-800$) runs games like the Series S does.
Its not that. Its just the Ponys and Xbots that are seething inside and cannot possibly give Nintendo credit even for the life of them so they resort to the same old retarted outdated argument; Oh ThE COnsOLE iS OutDATed. Even though this time Nintendo has out done themselves and potentially created the most reliable console, more reliable than the ps5 and xbox latest machine (Never know their console names)
@@shinciferIt's definitely is retarded that's for sure if they think the Switch 2 is going to be underpowered despising that the most recent rumors saying the opposite.
@@shinciferI can't say it better myself.
it would be disappointing, not because it'd be outdated,
but everybody trying to make their own version of the Switch,
would be a catastrophic bad move by the industry.
no what's fried peoples brains, is all these Switch 2 rumors.
nobody knows what Nintendo is doing next, for all we know Nintendo could make there very first VR console. im not saying that's what they'll do,
but im just giving an example. you have to think 1st party when it comes to Nintendo, after that it's a matter of thinking, what could they
come up with next. Japan just opened it's very first Nintendo theme park,
i think it's only a matter of time Nintendo retires from the gaming industry.
so this may be the last time we can enjoy something from them,
because who knows how long Microsoft will stick around console gaming.
@Jeymez your are factually wrong when you say nobody knows. If you wanna be ignorant and say no one knows then that's your fault. Not to get too deep here but It's the same as atheists saying God doesn't exist because said being isn't in front of their eyes even though the proofs there, similarly here, the console isn't infront of us yet however rumours now are past the point of speculation for example with how nintendo has been ordering components. What do you think Ninteneo's gonna do with millions of chips? Sit on it like a clown?don't think so mate. It's obviously for a reason and we all know why
Thank god it still seems like a next gen Switch and not a total concept change.
Isn’t that exactly why everyone shat on the wii U
@@sullythegI mean, the Wii U came in again underpowered despite being a home console, and despite games now being in HD there was a ton of confusion in the general press of it just being a tablet addition to the existing Wii console.
Gamers were annoyed by it being underpowered and going with a new tablet gimmick more than anything else.
I say this as a happy Wii U owner, but the optics from the get go were pretty poor. Immediately you saw it wasn't powerful enough to get modern games engines, and on top of that the biggest selling point was being able to play games at 480p but only a few feet from the system itself.
@@sullytheg Nah Wii U confused most of the audience, and Nintendo themselves, about why it was even supposed to be cool. Then the rarity of big hits and third party support didn't help.
As a lifelong Nintendo fan who counts 3DS as his favorite system of any kind, I have no ill will toward Wii U or Nintendo doing funky stuff. But I still think they’ve hit on a very beloved system and idea in the Switch that is something to stick with.
@@mkjjoe It didn't have any big hits.
I look at it all this way: just remember what Nintendo (and 3rd party devs, as well) managed to pull off with our tiny beloved Switch.
Now imagine what can be achieved with 3 times the power. Can't wait.
It's gonna be 5x+
It sounds like the extra button on the back of the Joycons is in the same position as the “grip” button on almost all VR controllers… 🤔
You mean Wii?
Some of the original Switch prototypes employed magnetic joycons, but if I remember correctly, the issue they ran into was that in order to create a sturdy interface, the magnets had to be dangerously strong, so they scrapped the idea, since they didn’t want people getting their fingers accidentally caught between two super strong magnets.
Gotta cover the manufacturing leaks. thats a big deal
From some leaks, it appears that there was some clash between Samsung and a LCD provider, possibly SHARP, with Samsung winning in the end.
If that's true it means we've all won. It would suck to have to go back to an LCD again.
We are going back to LCD
Ok if VRR.
@@Loundsify I don't think the Switch 2 will have VRR. It's just not Nintendo's style. The _Deck_ 2 will have VRR I'm sure, it's flexible and adaptable and that's very PC. Nintendo would _prefer_ that every game simply has a locked framerate.
DLSS on this tech should achieve pretty interesting things for a handheld but I'll believe it when i see it.
It definitely has possibilities, if nothing else.
I keep revising my idea of how air intakes will be implemented on switch 2. Still believe they will be imbedded on either side of console. If they do away with it sensor on bottom half of old Joycons and manage to create a hollow channel at bottom half of both new joycons with ir sensor within body of both that can track flow of air if blown in like ocarina with coinciding with new button on back and new arrangement of buttons on top you could essentially create a digital wind instrument to work with a ocarina of time remake. And they would allow two air tracks flowing into system for greater cooling too. If I’m correct?, this could be revolutionary.
If 1080p is the max res, being 80ish% of the XsS (power wise) sounds about right. Meaning at full optimization, the games will look about the same as the XsS graphically.
Ehh maybe. I don’t put much hope into Nintendo’s potential graphical power into this new systems since it’s been confirmed to be a “switch successor”
@godnamedtay . I mean all the lekas seem really promising so far. Like.. look at what they can do with weak hardware like the switch.. if the switch is as powerful as a ps4 pro and series S Nintendo can do amazing things. Sure it'd not top of the line. But like.. look at what switch can do now.. imagine the switch 2... I'm 100% hopefull...games are gonna look amazing. Also it's gonna be max res 4k with dlss no doubt.
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101I'm hopeful too, but I think you should expect PS4 level performance. You'll be less likely to be disappointed.
@@godnamedtay The latest hardware leaks in the last 36 hours are surprising. 12gb of ram 7500mb/s DDR5x, 256gb of storage at 2.1gb/s transfer speed which is close to the XBX/S. Docked mode before DLSS will be between Ps4 Pro and XSS; DLSS and Tensor cores will bring it close to XSS. I'm sure DF will cover it soon but it's looking like Nintendo are, surprisingly, giving this thing more power than most people expected.
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 def not gonna be ps4 pro level performance. I’d bet everything I love on that. 4 Tflops isn’t terrible, but we still don’t know, even with the dlss, if it’ll be able to scale up to 4K at all. The problem we’re facing as switch players here I’m afraid is doomed to repeat itself this generation with many 3rd party games not getting ported over..AGAIN. Hey, we’ll see, that’s for sure lol.
You guys heard the 12gb lpddr5x 7000mt
256 ufs 3.1 storage
Pedantry: Can we stop using the term 'magnetic suction'? Suction is an atmospheric effect, not an electromagnetic one.
"The principle of magnetic suction is used to make a variety of devices, from doorbells (in which an iron rod is sucked into a coil to strike a chime) to pinball machines (in which current goes through a coil, sucking in a rod attached to the flipper) to the starter switch on your car."
Good explanation cause magnetic fields can cause atmospheric effects,lol.
Please stop trying to sound intelligent lmao. You’re failing hard.
Correct,
Magnetic is particle attraction meanwhile Suction is pressure difference.
@@QuantumChrist and there pressure between bonds and particles which like planets in the universe have different atmospheres and pressures which can include push pull ,magnification,polarizations(magnetic-force/bonds) intensity which is causes a form of oxygen minimal/absent atmosphere suctioning.no?
The new buttons will serve as a heart rate monitor for sports applications
Why would it be a button?
It seems like the successor to the current switch is going to be pretty beefy and it’s looking like they’re using a custom version of the T239 ran off the shelf chip like they did with the current switch.
in the vidéo from more's law, they didn't say 800mhzfor handled mode, they actually said they were said that it would be lower than that.
Which is 100% wrong for sure. That would be rediculous. Under 800mhz would equal the clockspeed cpu of a mobile phone of 2010.
@@Confector69GPU performance is a function of the number of cores and the clockspeed. 1500 cores clocked at 500 MHz gives the same performance as 500 cores at 1500 MHz
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 in german we say "un weida?" (And?). I guess you dont get the point. Under 800mhz is a clockspeed of an ancient era. There is no way they were getting ps4 performance with such low clockspeeds. Maybe docked switch performance. But never ~1.8tf.
@@Confector69 With 1536 GPU cores per the Nvidia hack, even at 550 MHz, it gets to around 1.7 TFLOPS. That's already beating the Deck. A more optimistic estimate would put the upper limit at around 650 MHz, which would translate to around 2 TFLOPS.
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 It's 660mhz at 2FLOPS.
I hope it's actually called "Switch 2" I don't want Nintendo to give it a stupid name like "switcheroo" or something
Portable Nintendo Entertainment System. 😂
I actually want it to be called the Switcheroo now that you've said that.
Super Nintendo Switch
I now want it to be called The Super Switcharoo....🤣
@@wiiownsps3and360
PNES!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
It's worth noting that the patent about the splittable clamshell design had six (or eight, can't remember exactly) shoulder buttons, presumably so you dont lose inputs when splitting for co-op. Of course there's no need to point the obvious, i know a patent is not a certainty. A plain Switch 2 would be safe, but it would lack that element that subverts expectations, so i still think a detachable clamshell is possible. The inconsistency between LCD and OLED rumors might also be about that.
Sensitive metallic triggers might have interesting application at a low cost. Just having the possibility to give an input by interrupting contact for example might be the cheapest way to have some kind of hand gesture mimicing in games. I'm more and more thinking of a switch "cubed" (switch³) with handheld/docked/VR gaming...
Wonder if they'll be pressure sensitive
@@Loundsify I hope they will be, it was amazing playing with pressure sensitive triggers during the GameCube era !
Guess they'll have a lot to discuss this week with the recent leaks.
Magnetic suction.
Not on this website.
Ok it’s definitely an upgrade
4 x more power than switch with 4 teraflops, would probably do 4k upscale.
8 inch 1080p vs 6.2 720p
7nm still ok but we have to factor is battery life.
Also for those complaining about specs get a pc!!!
4 tflops docked would be 10x more powerful than current switch docked. It’s currently about 0.4 tflops docked
Wipes the floor with the deck, pc is useless for AAA now anyway cause of bad devs. Ps5 pro for aaa this and pc for indjes
@@jesseshaver2262that’s correct the current Nintendo switch only offers about 384 gflops when docked and around 154 gflops when mobile so a new chip with 4 teraflops fp32 would be about 12x the performance
Seems like with some DLSS in handheld it could handle decent looking games at 1080p 60 FPS and that's basically what I want
Mario, zelda, and metroid are gonna look incredible.
I haven’t seen anyone talk about this but i’ve read before that samsung 8nm and 7nm have design compatibility
The custom die for Switch 2 bodes really well for the planned longevity of the system. You can tell Nintendo is trying to put their best foot forward compared to doing the best with what was available on the market last time around. Hopefully this means Switch 2 is as optimized for this form factor as possible. Can't wait to see the games it enables!
Maybe gta 5 at 1080p…MAYBE
@@godnamedtay huh?
yea, I feel that it's imperative that they do since that I don't think Nintendo wants games like Elden Ring, Persona 3 Reload or FF7R be skipped out on their platform due to hardware constraints. Especially since it's mainly only Nintendo that still has a hold on the Japanese market.
@@RokkouA1crisis core is on the switch, no reason for ff7R cant have the same treatment
lmao
Samsung is its own fab. If they were using tsmc the new 4C nm process is supposed to be cheaper and more efficient than tsmc 4nm.
I think samsung 7nm will work just great for what Nintendo wants to do.
I love how everybody made video coverage about the magnetic joy-cons when those news first came out and they all mentioned something in the line of "the new joy-cons will magnetically *attach* to the system", yet they all and I mean ALL failed to make the obvious connection with the rumored name "Switch Attach" from a UA-cam survery which came out just a few months prior 😂😂.
Lol for real
MagSwitch
Awful name tbh😅
The Nintendo Swittach. The sound effect will be awesome.
Samsung really doesn't make anything on 7LPP anymore, it was a stopgap, early EUV node. If Nvidia is using Samsung its either 8LPU or 5LPP
vapor chamber?
7nm? Maybe who knows. Ill just say this.
The now COMPLETELY CONFIRMED GA10F gpu in T239 soc on board GMLX30 is 1536 fp32 lanes.
Steamdeck is 7nm and 512 fp32 vector lanes.
The dimensions of the switch 2 from the shipping manifesto puts it at a size smaller than the steamdeck.
Gpu 3x the size of 7nm steamdeck. Casing smaller than 7nm steamdeck.
Make of that info what you will.
It's looking more and more likely like the node is going to be a TSMC 4N (5nm) node. It matches the leaked power-curves revealed from the Nvidia leak and we know that it's an Ampere with features ported from Ada Lovelace which currently are done with a 5nm node.
node?
There isn't a single leak of the switch 2 using TSMC. I personally think it'll be Samsung 8nm, but they can change that. I heard a leak about Samsung 3nm today. So maybe.
@@PhoenixKeebsthe issue is the RTX 2050 is 200mm2 as a GPU add in the cores and other SoC functions and you're talking nearly a 300mm2 chip in a handheld on 8nm. I actually can't see that being a good fit but we'll see.
@@PhoenixKeebs There isn't a single credible leak about 8N either. For people that believe it's 8N it literally just boils down to desktop Ampere and T234 also on 8N
graphics are nice, but if i need to spend hubdreds of gigs of my storage for that, especially short games (below 50 hours), its not worth it for me
I wonder if the joycons will come with Bluetooth 5.4 and its latency benefits?
This...
magnetic?? thats gonna give me anxiety 😒
It's a must buy for me on day one
Will the dock do anything different this time? I saw a comment about a co processor in it? I think i remember people talking about stuff like that for witch pro?
Is that feasible?
If so does that mean a switch 2 pro dock could later be released to have even better upscaling for tv's?
There was rumor that the DLSS upscaling could be an external GPU via the dock, but as it turns out, it's all packed into the console itself. It is however now likely the dock with have a fan and additional airflow through the Switch 2 itself.
An added gpu from the dock would be sick.
I think magnetic thing is bad idea, as it can worn out and joy con fall off.
I perfre joy con that slide in the raills.
Uploading right now the clip is a bit misleading give the tons of new informations we got between thie original video and yesterday.
The joy con will still probably suffer drift problems.
So you can have maybe Ps4 Pro and Xbox One X graphics fidelity ...which not bad in the hands of Nintendo 🤔.
Switch 2 needs to have a solid launch lineup of games. I know the OG Switch titles trickled out, but we had Zelda and Mario Kart in the first month. There was enough to play. But Switch 2 is in an entirely different situation. There needs to be a damn good reason to buy it.
I think Mario kart 9 and a new 3D Mario. 3D Mario has been missing for the past years yes I know the booster course pass just came out but it was probably a B team thing and if maybe what would go crazy Metroid prime 4 I know we just got dread but I think that would really be the system seller and if they do a Zelda which I think they won’t they could remake link to the past and between worlds in one package OR EVEN BETTER. An ocarina of time remake and majoras mask packaged together that would be sick
Launch games will most likely be Super Mario Odyssey 2, Metroid Prime 4, Zelda OoT and Majora’s Mask HD remake
Awful timing guys considering the hardware shipment leaks in the last 36 hours lol. When i saw this pop up i was like "Yeah DF are onto it" but this just a clip from the Direct lmao.
One of the biggest things I want addressed is the horrendous input lag. Even when directly connected and in handheld. Drives me nuts.
samsung making the soc is very bad news, i still haven't forgotten neither forgiven them for their atrocious exynos soc's.
I honestly don’t care about new joy cons, just fix the joycon drift
Beware of anything Samsung dealing with video signals as they don’t support Dolby vision which would be a good use case for docked switch 2 in tv gaming mode.
It would not be through Samsung. It would be through the new Tegra chipset from Nvidia.
The Switch 2 will absolutely not support Dolby Vision. The Switch 1 barely supports _surround sound._
I don't care if the switch 2 had the exact same hardware as the original switch as long as it has analog triggers!
I think Nintendo will stay with very similar body and design, there's nothing they need to change for console that is handheld and portable with detachable pads. Nothing on the market comes close to portability of ninny switch.
Great console, as always nintendo do!
Still curious on what the name will be.
Super Switch? Nintendo Connect?
It sounds like this going to be a pretty big upgrade. Im pretty excited.
1536 CUDA Cores, 48 tensor cores, 12 RT cores
Ampere architecture with features backported from Ada
8x ARM A78C
File decompression engine
12 GB LPDDR5X RAM 7500 MT/s
256 UFS 3.1
🤔
RT is definitely off the table unless it's for RT reflections with simple geometry. Maybe we could see some Mario levels have RT for certain effects but 12 RT cores isn't enough for high resolution RT effects.
How many teraflops is that?
@@kingdrift1136That depends on the clockspeed, which is the most important part that still hasn't been leaked.
I think it's more like magnetic locking with a "Switch" i mean a real switch literally
The switch attach might be the real name after all
@@randyrrs7028 ew
Butt pluggable joy cons
Finally zelda games in 1080p 60 fps handheld or die?
Since the Switch was so successful, they can't change it much. So, what do they do for the successor? Make it more powerful. Nintendo Power!
If this is true it would nearly match the XSS! This is what i expected!! Many people thought they would only use 2TF max! Now we are getting 4 TFLOPS!! As they are "new TFLOPS" it would be more in line with the SS than with the PS4Pro!
For those who allways say: "Nintendo does not care about graphics": Nintendo has a NEW PRESIDENT now who thinks completly different than Iwata! So nothing is impossible! When was the last time Nintendo said graphics where not important?! Yes in the WiiU/ 3DS days when Iwata was still alive! The Switch was an Iwata product as well! These specs are higher than anyone thought because they where not aware of the fact that Furukawa is more some kind of "Yamauchi type" wich liked higher end hardware!
Those 2 expectations are the same. 2 TFLOPS handheld, 4 TFLOPS docked.
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 Thats roughly what i ment! And i say as a Handheld Switch Up will be clearly above PS4 maybe even close to PS4Pro. In docked mode i see PS4Pro as the absolute floor. It will be deffinitly closer to the XSS than PS4Pro, maybe even on par. With more RAM wich is faster it could be!
@@xunbekannt1572That's what hinting at from the recent rumors I have seen so far.
@@AceLoveheart The thing is, that was it what i was sying as early as 2019!! Release in march 2025- now this will even be the EARLIEST possible date! PS4Pro in Handheld and XSS in Dock was the thing i took as a possibility back in 2021! Now ot could really become true! Often it was rumors about powerfull (f.e. Fuzion Trminal/ Fuzion DS= PS4Pro) but that was debunked quite fast. Now we are probably a year before release or even less and we get leaks like this wich basically confirmed the "Matrix demo" rumors from lat year!
What do you think will be the power range where Switch Up will be in?
They're gonna launch both the Switch and Switch Lite at the same time and the Switch Lite will have the LCD screen while the Switch will have the OLED screen.
Would be nice but i wouldnt hold my breath for that OLED.
I doubt it. Too risky and expensive. For the first couple of years you only want to target early adopters
Didn’t y’all do this video Already?
It's DF Clips so yeah
The DF clips channel takes clips from the main channel
@@Foetoid2k6 ohhh I was gonna scream Mandela effect
Wait so will it be an ARM based processor as well or a x86 one? Can someone clarify?
Arm based. New hardware leaks from shipment details paint an excellent picture. 12gb of ram 7500mb/s DDR5x, 256gb of storage at 2.1gb/s transfer speed which is close to the XBX/S. Docked mode before DLSS will be between Ps4 Pro and XSS; DLSS and Tensor cores will bring it close to XSS. I'm sure DF will cover it soon but it's looking like Nintendo are, surprisingly, giving this thing more power than most people expected.
If anything GO AWAY from the joycons, please leave that design in file 13
Nintendo will make their systems as powerful as their own developers need it to be. Trying to fulfill their needs. So they're not trying to impress anyone else with the capabilities of their systems.
So if Miyamoto or Aonuma want to do something that they can't do with the OG Switch, they'll ask for more power. And Nintendo will try to meet their needs and nothing more.
However, sometimes they'll try to meet the needs of third party companies like Capcom. Providing more power to run some of their games. But that's more of an afterthought.
Remember, it's nintendo. They've been releasing underpowered machines since the Wii so dont expect the switch 2 to be any different or high end
@@randyrrs7028 yes you’ve been living under a rock these last few days because the switch successor is looking mighty powerful and I wouldn’t even call the current switch on powered at the time. It’s still powerful enough for Nintendo games and that’s what really matters. I don’t give a shit about third parties developers outside of maybe one or two, I only care about Nintendo’s first party, no call back from under your rock hater.
@Adamtendo_player_1 a nintendo fanboy got their feelings hurt LOL
I see that people are experts here on the advantages of 4nm over 7nm
Word. It’s like people discussing cars and saying that engines with more cylinders = better
I am yeah
i am happy for those statistics, because we need to compare with current switch not ps5. it will be much more powerfull for a new handheld. and nintendo can make always magic with low quality imagine with this quality.
Hall effect joysticks are an absolute must for Nintendo to prevent stick drift and if they can’t do that for the gamers that’s typical scumbag corporate crap selling defective products and making gamers have to buy new ones for an easily fixable issue
More and more third party devs will consider the next Nintendo system first before anything else when developing their games.
Now everyone knows how successful the Switch got you NEED to put your game on the Switch 2.
I feel like they might go for a more powerful configuration this time if only to keep potatoes from offering higher performance emulation than the hardware is even capable of.
This is not Iwata’s Nintendo. They still have their culture from a software development perspective but the rest of their business has become much more in line with the rest of the industry. They also need Switch 2 to be a success. They can’t fall back on their other console/handheld. I don’t think we need to temper expectations. Expectations need to be high. Nintendo needs to deliver a device that feels innovative in comparison to what the rest of the space is offering. I expect Switch 2 to make these X86 handhelds look like the bulky, inefficient and niche devices that they are.
Agree. People are doubting Nintendo here alot. People are gona be surprised
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 Yeah surprised how weak and outdated these things are gonna be lmfao, Nintendo are always 10 years behind. It's not suddenly going to change now
Nintendo do not follow the market they create it. 140m Switch’s sold 18yo technology. They not gonna enter an arms race there’s not incentive for them. 8gb 1080p 60fps - PS4 pro
@@iamcllwell actually the switch wasn't that behind at launch. The Tegra X1 released it 2015 and Nintendo started manufacturing the console in 2016 and released it in 2017. With the lite and v2 model they used the updated X1+. Which released in 2019. They used it again for the Oled in 2020. Obviously in today's standards that's pretty outdated but all consoles near the end of their lifespan become outdated. Look at the ps4/ Xbox one. They both use 2013 hardware
@@PhoenixKeebs "both use 2013 hardware" Yet both are still stronger than the switch.... The switch was hella behind on launch compared to some smartphones and tablets
it wont be 4 teraflops lmao
I've heard the SOC is using the newly announced 3nm GAA Samsung technology not 7nm like what was previously thought and they also have a AR/VR Headset in the works also with Google now that I am excited about
Nintendo using the latest process node would be unrealistic, they didn’t do that with the Switch and Wii U. Also newer process nodes are more expensive than older ones, so them using 7nm is highly likely
For tech morons like me, how would the Switch2 compare to the SteamDeck, then?
7nm sounds a bit small, even for my tiny child like hands
Nah, I would say that is big enough. Even more than appropriate.
So it's still roughly around RTX 2050? The rumored specs are nowhere close to a 3050.
They are similar to the RTX 3050 6GB
Depends on the cuda cores number, is a bit curious that spefically soc info its pretty much the only thing along with screen that shipments didn't give a hint about, in 2020 version of T239 it was 1536 cudas at 1.38ghz which resulted in 4.24 teraflops, but now this leaks talk about a 3rd revision of that chip, assuming 2020 version was v1 it means during 2021-2024 it got two more versions, so there's a real chance its even stronger than 4.24 teraflops, (or just more node shrinks to allow more battery life, but two versions means more changes than those were made)
So you want an 4080 on a😂 handheld? Lol
Now let's see the absolute marvels Ninten-can-do with 4TFlops, put consoles with over twice the power to shame one definitely suspects.
Nintendo makes great games, but they don't put sony to shame. But, they def put MS to shame
@@garyr5866Sony has no must have games.
Mario alone runs circles around any franchise with low end hardware in sales , what can mario look like with modern tech
@ZackSNetwork The last of us 1 & 2, the gow franchise, helldivers 2, gt7, returnal, spiderman, just to name a few. Sony has had plenty of must-have games. Facts are sony and Nintendo put out AAA, whereas MS put out CCC
@@garyr5866 Nintendo puts Sony to shame with their games and especially in sales numbers in fact they put both Sony and Microsoft to shame I’m just glad I’m not a PlayStation player. I’m glad I’m not an Xbox player but I sure as hell I’m glad I’m an Nintendo player.
I think that the "switch 2" will have more than enough power for the games that their target demographic wants to play. We have to stop viewing the switch with the eyes of "console/pc gamers" and start seeing it for what it is. A product intended for a younger audience while still riding the nostalgia factor for the older Nintendo fans.
You’ve missed a demographic: adults who like to game on the go and need something lightweight that you can pause during cutscenes. The steam deck is too big to just shove in a bag - I can take my switch everywhere; it’s perfect.
@@RaphaelFellowesbut that’s not their demographic. Never has been. The game boy. DS. And the switch was always aimed at younger audience or those who want to play the type of games Nintendo makes.
Same with all their main consoles. You would get the off resident evil 4 on the wii or doom eternal on the switch, but that isn’t their primary demographic.
Younger audience is BS. I’m definitely older lol
@@pian-0g445This isn't the 90's chief. As Nintendo has shown in NUMEROUS investor meetings with data the majority of Switch gamers are between 20 and 40
@@pian-0g445 This is forcing categories I think... yes most of their games include a young audience but they generate wide appeal in general. Among adults it isn't always about nostalgia, plenty of people get into video games at all ages and Nintendo's platform is an easy entry point.
7nm for a mobile device in 2025 is not good. Granted 7nm is probably relatively cheap now, so that's probably a huge factor in their decision. However, for battery life and overall processing power it'll probably barely be at the level of a Steam Deck. Of course the Switch 2 will still be a big upgrade over the original regardless, but we definitely have to temper our expectations.
The Steam Deck on the other hand does not support DLSS.
A Switch 2 that can run the kinds of games that the Deck can run (and better, with DLSS etc) would be a big win.
7nm is fine, the efficency gains between 7 and 4 isn't much anyway looking at the steam deck and rog ally
Nintendo won't release a console that just last 2 hours, even switch v1 had at least 3 hours, there's 0% possibilities of that
Well actually the original switch was 20nm and the newer ones are 16. They last way longer than the steam. Tbh if it actually gets steam deck performance I'll be satisfied.
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It's too early to be coming out of the closet, Pride month is on June.
@@deathtrooper2048 you would know huh 🤔 🤣
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Is everyone still thinking the switch 2 will still be as powerful as an xbox series s.
crazy talk
Lol. On a handheld? Lmao
It is possible to even be more powerful
Predictable comments from this audience
it seems pretty average for a portable game system compared to the steam deck which is levels above it
Compared to the Steam deck it'll probably be smaller, cheaper, better battery life, and better "ghz to ghz" performance thanks to Nvidia DLSS instead of FSR.
Dont forget that Nintendo is a family-friendly company
Nintendo is king of optimazation. they manage to put totk on the old switch. Just think what they can do with better tech. Lol
these specs if true will put steam deck to shame but ok, the heavy games are meant to be played on PC.
The only thing I hope, is that the new switch is easy to emulate or hack hehehe
Up to spec with the average gaming pc, lol
Its a handheld ffs. You ever wonder why a tablet isnt as powerful as laptop or pc? You realky want a 4080ti on a handheld? Lmao
The Switch 2 soc should be at least 6 or 5nm
Nah. 7nm is fine. Latest switch is 16nm. So 7nm is still a HUGE improvement.
Thats absolutely disappointing. At around series s performance? 5 years later? They will once again get hardly any 3rd party development. Forget about 60fps.
By the time they release it on 2025 it would be only a year before Microsoft release their next gen console if they launch it in 2026 and we may see the PS6 in 2027 making the switch 2 a generation behind just like the Wii U was when the ps4/xbox one were out
Bro, series s is fine, you can’t get better hardware on a mobile device currently, the rog ally is slower than a series s, a steam deck way slower.
@@oo--7714That's totally true.
If they do a Switch 2 with a simillar performance of Xbox Series S.
It will not just be a xbox series s killer, its the entire Sony and xbox killer.
This will make 99% of triple A games to be released to switch as well.
It gonna be the first time that this would happen and will probably make switch 2 be the top 1 most selling console this generation.
That's not really the market Nintendo will go for. They cater more for a younger audience.
@@beachlife2968 the question Is, just by the fact that it can be a console which has fhe same potency as Xbox Series S.
Its already automatically marketed as a console gaminh like the others.
And you cant forget about the fact that even that Switch 1 is less powerfull, they did get enough triple A support, like having Ark, RDR1, The Witcher 3, GTA Trilogy, and even Doom games, all batman Arkham trilogy and go on
It has over 5.000 triple A games, way more than Wii, Wii U and Gamecube together.
So I dont know why this wouldnt happen even more stronger with switch 2 having the power of a Series S.
They can give you that. As powerful as xbox s but also as big and is to be played handheld. See how dumb that sounds? Lol
@@RvEllorquez Yes, your comment seems dumb.
We are talking about a handheld console which is gonna use a Nvidia APU with the RTX 5XXXX architeture and with DLSS 3.7 support and framegen.
Nowdays, AMD have a APU which can deliver the power of a GTX 1070, and for sure Switch gonna be stronger than that. Now you understand?
@@hicarodestrui not as dumb as yours. Theres a reason why tablet is less powerful than a pc. Switch is mobile console. Get over it.
Mid specifications
where you expecting a 4090 on a tablet?
@@BC-lg7hf no one is expecting 4090, just not the trash lcd and 2020's tech process in 2025
@@Poet_from_ice The Switch also used an older process node, this should be expected. It’ll be cheaper and enough for what they’re aiming for in performance on the Switch 2. As long as the LCD screen is 1080p it’ll be fine
Remember, it's nintendo. They've been releasing underpowered machines since the Wii so dont expect the switch 2 to be any different or high end
“Mid” being a portable Xbox Series S LOL
7nm and LCD would be horrible
Not really the lcd steam deck is like the same price as the rumored switch 2 woth the same storage.
Also oled it trash, my oled phone burned in after 2 years lcd is better for longentivity.
@@oo--7714thats a trash oled you have: burn in are really really rare nowadays.
@@oo--7714All smartphones have OLED these days you clown. It’s far better than garbage LCD.
@@MunchenerFrancei doubt it, I saw the steam deck oled burn in video wasn't really promisibg
If not let play 1440/60 frame no buy it👎
7nm not bad but also not good for new mobile system to be relesed at 2025
Not bad either, Apple is still fighting with lower nm
It's cheap tho.
They better have DLSS 3 to keep modern AAA games getting ported to Nintendo console. Because I believe the 4 TF is when docked, and between 1.5 to 2TF handheld mode. So the Switch 2 is going be as powerful as PS4 & PRO. The only thing making it more powerful than previous Gen is the DLSS 3.
It is bad
@@Poet_from_icesteam deck is 7nm
Even if its more powerful id still go for a steam deck. Not interested in locked down portables at the mercy of big corpa. Still no netflix on switch..... Steamdeck can emulate a massive pool of consoles, has a desktop mode with fully functional browsers, can play downloaded movies and shows and music, can read ebooks, and plays games right from my steam library that i already use on my high end gaming PC. What is nintendo offering me? a zelda game every 5 years (that might end up disappointing like TOTK) and a 3d mario game that barely innovates? Think ill spend my 500 cad on a deck, thanks though!
Brain rotted... totk was not disappointed
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 totk and botw are extremely overrated
Gaybox killed Bethesda!!!!!! MEGA L FOR THE FANQUEERS
Cry
Bethesda has been trash since Skyrim. Fallout 4 is terrible, 76 is terrible, starfeild is terrible etc
@frogfarmer3551 this puts a smile on my face. The gaybox fanqueers keep taking Ls. I can't wait when gaybox shuts down studios in Activision! Especially treyarch!!!!!!! Kill off COD for good.
@HiN00bs12 Does your mommy know you're online attention seeking kid 😂
@@frogfarmer3551
They are better than anything you'll ever produce in your life lmao
7nm is honestly ridiculous and extremely disappointing in 2025. Budget android chips will be manufactured on 3nm in 2025. 7nm in 2025 will leave Nintendo further back than when even the tegra x1 came out for the original switch
By further back you mean relative to what was standard back then? Looking at the whole system that should be a significant upgrade regardless.
Another underpowered Nintendo console. They better have some great launch games to make up for this.
It's about how that power is used, for third party that should give some room, for first party given how they've managed to run something like TOTK we can expect some impressive stuff.
Electromagnetic suction would be stupid, waste of battery life. Probably wireless charging/powering of joycons while connected to console and wireless data transfer to avoid hacking point like launch model of Switch 1.
7m. again sorely outdated tech when it launches. Lame! give us RTX 4000 serie atleast
Currently the nm doesn't necessarily mean the actual node size for the transistor, it could just be marketing. So it is similar to what happens with the term "teraflop". We will have to wait and see.
Remember, it's nintendo we're talking about. They've been releasing underpowered machines since the Wii so dont expect the switch 2 to be any different or high end
So you want Switch 2 cost $1000 eh….Dumb brain 🤣
😂😂😂 lmao.
@@randyrrs7028 well times are changing. They cant keep re release their old games for example. The biggest complaint weve seen all these years is how underpowered the device was.