You would not happy with a modernized DRZ. It would be like the CRF450l. You would have to put an ECU and exhaust just to make it run right. Euro 5 would have the DRZ so chocked up it would suck. Its grandfathered. THEY CANT CHANGE IT.
@@texastruth9752 The 450 l is useles because it is built to race service intervals. A DRZ designed to a DRZ type design brief would have longer service intervals .
@@omicrondec I am going to just keep riding it until either a 400-500cc dual sport comes out or a 400-500cc twin cylinder off-road orientated ADV comes out. I find the 300cc dual sports aren't much different than my WR to upgrade.
I cancelled my order and bought a used 300L for AU $8K with 150 klm. I had to do a 800 klm round trip to collect it but it has been worth it. The problem with these bikes is that you feel the need to upgrade everything especially the suspension. Another AU $6K later and I now have a killer machine although I do not enjoy it on the freeway at 100-110 in a headwind and the seat is a PITA. :) Offraod and tricky trails is where this bike truly shines, it just tractors thru everything and is comfy on connecting roads between trails. Love your channel!
I also got mine in the used market, and fortunately had all the essential mods done already by the previous owner, for him it didn't have enough power even after installing the 550 performance stage 1 ECU, so I told my self and the seller after the test ride "It's a 300cc or 286cc however you want to call it, and for being that displacement and a non Enduro bike the performance is more then adequate, So I think the key is to be honest with it's displacement then most people will be very happy with the 300l ,then all the aftermarket stuff that is available comes as big bonus Cheers
The CBR300R cams and Velocity stack paired with the 550 Performance tune will absolutely wake it up. It's how it should have come from the factory. The best part is you pick up power up top but it really fattens up power down low and in the mid range too. No loss in off-road capability whatsoever.
Great video. I have been riding a 2017 CRF250L since 2020 and have around 10k km on it now. One month ago I upgraded to a CRF300L. I have put around 300 km on it so far so still running in. For sure there are differences from the CRF250L and my early impression is that the 300L is a better/ more capable bike. However I miss my old 250L. Mine was like a well worn pair of your favorite shoes. Frayed around the edges but comfortable and gets you around easily. I have to be honest and say that for an old duffer like me the CRF250L is/ was enough bike! If you can´t get your hands on a CRF300L get a 2017 or newer 250L and save yourself the extra $$$ over a new 300L.
I must have been one of the lucky exceptions...in Dec 2022 I walked into the Honda dealership here in S Pain and asked what the del time would be for a 300 l....they just had 2 cancellations and in the store I transferred the 6 grands in 3 min....2 days later I drove off....one lucky bastard.😊
For those of us that have money but no patience (or years left to ride), I would suggest the Beta lineup. Very light weight and dirt oriented dual sports, with motors to suit any need and skill set. Hopefully the promised Triumph dirt bikes will morph into dual sports as well.
@@chroniclesofsolid We here in most of North America need to get the RR-S if we want a plate, but the only difference is a couple kilos of signals and a plate holder. The 390 is the bike for me, based on what I have read. I have not ridden any of them, and would obviously test ride them all before spending that amount of coin.
Nice info on what's up with Honda deliveries. Last Fall I saw the previews of the 2023 CB300R and loved the black/yellow color scheme. When I started to see how few 2022 models were around and no updates on the '23 deliveries, I decided to buy the '22 model in December. Really happy with my purchase and for a small outlay I replaced my blue plastics with yellow ones and now have an awesome looking "2022 1/2" CB300R! In retrospect that was certainly a good decision. Sometimes you just have to get creative...
Quite familiar with the waiting game. 5 months for my Tenere 700. However, the 250 / 300 would do 90% and I am certainly fond of that class of dual sport!!!! Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, all make machines I could live with and love forever. Thanks COS, we enjoy your channel very much.
I can't believe no one is talking about the fact that Honda isn't selling the XR650 in Australia. The XR's were absolutely huge in the 80'. Now, with the adventure bike category being so popular, it makes no sense. I, for one, would buy one in a heartbeat. The 350 is no replacement. An opportunity missed!
I have both a Rally and a regular in Central Florida that I will sell. Both have plenty of upgrades and under 2K miles. Have extra oil change supplies and air cleaners to go with them along with the oem tires.
So, after lkg for a good used bike for 3 years, and refusing to spend 13000 on a new dirt bike, I decided to buy a pumper carb for the DRZ400S. A thousand isn’t too bad for a new personality. Also think they should remove pollution control requirements as the sum total of dirt bike pollution is likely less than single diesel truck.
I waited months and was basically told I was too far down the list at each location I called that I most likely won't get one this year. So I upgraded to the 450RL and love it! 😁
I've had a Cb500x on order for 3 months. The dealer was totally honest and said they didn't have a clue how long it would be, probably spring. The is a disconnect between Honda and its distribution network. I don't doubt Honda know exactly what their demand is and when they can achieve it, but they arn't telling their dealers.
Honda have realised it is more profitable to artificially starve the market and keep margins sky high than maintain regular supply. They could do it if they want to. As other posters have pointed out there are no supply shortages in Thailand the place it is manufactured. They are doing the same thing with their cars too. For example they have pushed up the price of the CB500X hundreds of $$$ over the last couple of years. Eventually they will resume supply but attempt to maintain the higher prices. It is a way "educate" buyers that they must pay for for their cars/motorbikes in future and thereby lock in the higher margins for good. Hopefully Chinese and Indian manufactures allied with good old competition will rain on their parade and force prices down.
I’ve had a reservation on a 300L Rally for the last three months, but kept searching for one that was available immediately. Found a used 2021 with 2K miles (3219 KM) and bought it yesterday. I’m excited!
Congratulations. I just turned 1700 miles on mine, and I love it more now than I did when I first bought it. I’m Still making mods to it too, but I still love it. It’s such a capable machine.
@@airadaimagery692 Thanks! I also have a big adventure bike. I was moving both around in the garage yesterday. I can already tell how much more I’m going to enjoy riding the 300L off-road. So excited!
Hey Solid we in the States are getting the little xr150l this year. I've got a deposit on one for my wife. If your familiar with it was wondering if you you could do. A video for us. Thanks for what you do friend. I'm excited for your future, riding with my kids and grandkids is the best!!
They are no longer street legal in Australia I believe (no abs) but they are still sold as farm bikes. I have just ridden one thousands of kms from Saigon to Hanoi in Vietnam and I really liked the bike. Easy to ride and more comfortable than you would expect. Very fuel efficient with a 400km or so range. Will cruise at 70-80 kph comfortably. They have a reputation in Vietnam for being very dependable. A bit heavy for the size though.
I am loving the CRF300 Rally. Was told 6-12 month wait a year or so ago. So started watching the used market and snapped up a very low km Rally from Coast Powersports in Adelaide. 👍
@@ferkuzuel i'm pretty sure the drz250 was sold in usa but maybe it wasn't street legal or hasn't been sold for a long time there. they were discontinued here in australia in 2020
Just got a used 300l 2 days ago. In fact, rode it over to get the refund on my deposit for a new one at my local dealer. :) Was about to cave and get a used klx300 which tend to run a little cheaper. Contemplated the WR but glad I stuck it out.
If you’re looking for the 300, but a nice used 250 shows up in used inventory, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one. IMHO, there doesn’t seem to be enough difference between the two to worry about. I was looking for a 300 Rally when a 2017 250 Rally appeared at my Triumph dealer, looking virtually brand new, and with only about 1500 miles. It was clearly well cared for, and has been an outstanding little stomper, so far.
Factories are pushing employees leave to close the factories due to low demand and full stock. They are just trying to keep the prices up and that is it. Supply chains are working 100% for months now. Don't buy a Brand new car or motorcycle for the next months and buy it cheaper before the end of the year. I saw a few people having to wait months for a vehicle to be delivered and the build date is mid 2022. Used market is full at the moment because many people can't pay for their mortgage and need to sell something. Buy used for now and in 1 year buy new for a much better deal.
Great update Solid. I was in a store last week and the Yam WR450 was on sale and in stock and no ABS as being sold as a road registerable Enduro/ competition bike. Honda Dropped the CRF450L because of ABS issue from what I understand and Big Mistake IMO. It seems once again Honda have lost control of the market and the guys at the top seem to be sleeping. The old DRZ400 , KLX300 and even the XR600 or XR650 all great alternatives but second hand still pulling high prices. I sold my 1989 XR600 RK last October for 6K - Great fo me but now regretting it as new bikes just not arriving.
Enduro bikes can be sold without ABS, but they have to meet strict specifications. It's the only reason the DRZ400 is still sold, unfortunately, the DR650 doesn't meet the enduro requirements.
450l was dropped in australia due to lack of interest. the crf450x was street legal for years and the l has less hp than the drz400e without the reliability of the 400e. they ended up with a bike that still wasn't suitable for everyday or long distance riding but didn't have the performance of a street legal enduro play bike like the old crf450x. add in the issue that they didn't even run properly and needed a new $ computer to sort them out. they just didn't suit anybody.
I decided I was buying a 300L on a Wednesday in May of last year and had one in my garage the next day. Just had to call 20 dealerships and be willing to drive. They had a 300L, 450RL, and the 300L Rally ABS on the showroom floor. Got to test ride all of them and liked the way the Rally handled on the highway better. No mark ups or market adjustments either. There are some out there if you look hard enough.
Damn - despite my wife's complaining, I guess I was smart to get mine last fall lol. Glad to see you keeping up the lord's work, Solid - how's fatherhood treating you?
@@chroniclesofsolid You'll never know how tough you really are until you have kids lol. It gets better once they figure a sleep schedule. Stay strong my dude.
I put money down this week. It’s supposed to be here (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) mid-end April. I’m really really hoping this is true. Love the channel. Big reason I went with this bike lots of research went into it though. Can’t wait! Cheers!
This depends a bit on where you are. In the US, sit and wait. There are no Hondas of any kind available aside from Groms and Navis and the occasional Supercub. At the same time, watch patched bandit and he got a deal on his 300L in Finland, and there were 4 others (including Rally) on the floor with no buyers. Honda's clearly having some issues matching inventory to destination geographies. I don't know if that's because the bikes are any different or not. If you read Honda's latest financial reports, you'll see that they shipped a record number of motorcycles in 2022 (about 5x as many motorcycles as cars) and motorcycles are a big source of profit as well (3x the operating profit as what's generated from cars). Management commentary on supply chain tends to focus on chip issues for cars. I didn't see any recent callouts for supply-chain issues that seemed motorcycle specific. Maybe I missed them. Honda sold ~14.3 million motorcycles in 2022 and forecasts selling *closer to 19 million* in 2023. That's an enormous increase. Clearly they have the factory capacity for it, or they wouldn't make the public projections.
Thanks for this great video! Currently an owner of the mighty CRF300l, but looking for something with more power :) What do you think about the oldschool Yamaha XT 600 as an alternative?
The new Suzuki V-Strom 250 SX is looking like a pretty good buy at $6500 ride away in Aus ... cheap as chips and its gettin good reviews on tube ... love to see you give it a test ride
Back last October dealer said they had a 300L coming in sometime in late November. I put a deposit down on it but did not receive until 8 months later. Glad I was patient. Buying used was not really a good idea for me.
i was hellbent on going with a brand new 300l or klx300 but even when they were around, they were a bit too much money for me. ended up with a drz and honestly its the bike i should have gotten before i got my last bike, the xr400. the xr was a monster but it was also only kick start with almost impossible to find e-start kits. i hurt my knee and hip so it was time for it to go.
I was wanting a 300L until the dealer laid the $8.2k sales agreement down. Instead I found a minty 17 250L ABS for $4.2k with 2.5k miles on it. It had a full FMF exhaust, EJK tuner, new tires, and LED lighting. I swapped out the front suspension with Racetech and the rear with an Ohlins. My buddy has a 300L, and yes its MARGINALLY faster on road, but off road its a different story due to my suspension. I saved easily $5k for an awesome bike. You pay dearly for the extra 36cc.
This is my problem now too. I was excited to find my local dealer had a 300L in stock. $5699 MSRP, but becomes $8900 out the door. Absolutely ridiculous. These are not almost $10k bikes.
Yep agree with you mate get a cheep bike and ride it 😁👍 any bike is better than no bike 🤔 so far i am loving my new old DRZ400E 😁 bit more power than my old TTR250 and weight but still loving it 😉🍺
Got a 300L last year by patiently watching dealer stock in my area, having cash in hand, and calling as soon as one of the local dealers showed an incoming bike. Got a new bike at a decent price this way, and I wouldn’t want a different one.
Folk like you, Solid, who have a meaningful, influential and representative platform in the bike market, have been banging on for years about the need for this so-called, 'unicorn' of mid-weight dual-sport or adventure bikes. Honda finally produce the thing and .... surprise! surprise! .... everyone wants one, and so now there are not enough to go round. If only these manufacturers would do their market research properly and first listen to the people who might want to buy and ride the bikes they produce. Finish of rant!
Riding in 🇹🇭 around Christmas time, there were hundreds in honda showrooms across the country. We're not a priority for Honda for this model. Selling 300 bikes a year here means nothing when you can sell 30000 elsewhere.
Easy to say if you are 6ft+ tall, not so easy for inseam-challenged people. For these folks literally only a few bikes available, I have no choice but wait for the CRF-300LS
I have one for sale right now yet no interest. With only 700 kms on it (it's literally brand new....had it one month) and selling it for $200 less than I bought it for and includes a rear rack. Has a 4 year warranty. Starting to think these aren't quite in as high demand as some are saying.
Is Voge 300 Rally available there? That's almost the same as CRF 300L Rally. I think the most known weakness of the CRF 300 is the suspension. The Voge has much better suspension that can handle the weight of a grown up.
It's possible I'll be moving US to Ecuador. Expats can't import a vehicle. Most motorcycles there are close to double the price they are in other countries and models offered are limited. They do have a trading partnership with China, those goods don't get the high tax that make the others so expensive. They don't get the Voge but, they do get the Loncin 300 Rally and I think they're the same except the name and colors. I think they both get the KLX300 clone engine. I think the Loncin is actually cheaper than the price of the Voge, Loncin $3200 US out the door price. I hope the Voge/Loncin is as good as the reviews I've seen so far and they don't fall apart in short order.
@@jerrym3261 My pal has one. He's satisfied with its quality. Although, the bike is quite new for him. Actually, he bought that after it was recommended by a guy who owns both the CRF300L Rally and the Voge 300 Rally. This guy used the bike in very rough terrains and long trips and loved the bike more than the Honda..
@@MaZoOnTheRoad Thanks! That's good news! I'm 69 years old so, I'm not going to push a motorcycle nearly as hard as I would have in years past. I have 10 motorcycles now and the one I ride most is a Honda CB250 Nighthawk, it's just so easy. Had it not been for Itchy Boots being in Ecuador, I probably would have went for a Honda CG (pushrods) design, low power, 250, made in China bike just to ride up and down the beach road. Everything I hear about the Voge makes me think the Loncin would be more than capable of riding the mountains in Ecuador.
I had a deposit on a 300l rally for most of 2022. I had a 16k service due on my 250 rally in September , so I pulled my deposit to pay for the service. As of this date ,no 300 Rally ,or L has arrived.
Literally 3 hours ago I was looking at the Honda Australia website... I was just curious. I live in Japan, and because of the crazy 60 year old license system here, they don't even sell the 300... or any dual sport/enduro that is registrable that is over 249cc from ANY Japanese maker.
Its interesting Honda is still blaming supply chain issues for this. Honda manages to produce adequate numbers of brand new GoldWings -arguably their most complex motorcycle, Grom's, Fury's, CRF450's, and Rebels. At least here in the US, Honda hasn't even announced the 2023 version of the Africa Twin, yet it seems readily available in Mexico, Canada, Europe, and I believe Australia. WTF.
I was looking at the CRF300L or LS for my first bike as a commuter. l found a CRF300L and a Rally at a local dealer near me. The issue is they are marking these bikes up over 2k over MSRP in my area. The local dealer wanted $7900 out the door for a CRF300L which is insane the 300L goes for $5600 MSRP No way l'm paying that so l've decided to go with a Royal Enfield Scram 411. I'm not planning on doing much offroad riding if any and the 411 has a much longer range then the 300L. With dealer fees the 411 comes to about $6300 its MSRP is $5099. Much cheaper out the door. If l want to do trails l can and if l want to ride street l can.
I called several dealers here in Washington state that have a Rally in stock at $6199. Every dealer "out the door" price was about $8100. That's why I hate buying from dealers. I wish I could find a dealer that had the balls to list the full price up front. I would actually pay more from a dealer who was honest up front, then the current crop that just list the MSRP which means nothing. I traveled 400 miles to purchase a Tiger 900 from Empire Cycle in Spokane because they were honest enough to advertise the full price up front.
@@ultrarnr4454 Yeah it's extremely annoying and none of the dealers will work with you as they are very popular bikes and they know they can find someone who wants the bike enough who will just eat the markup. I wish Honda would issue a warning to these dealers. Saying if you mark these up we will cut your shipment in half but Honda doesn't care.
It is odd. In the US, near impossible to find a new 300 Rally, but dealers seem to have plenty of the new KLR650 bikes available. So is Kawasaki doing something better (chip wise, supply chain wise) than Honda? I'm sure we will never know the real details ... like maybe the Rally dash display isn't available? Or 1-2 components aren't available so they just wait??
Dude you’ve got to ether read a script or talk over footage like Barry vibrantly twitching and jumping makes it look like you can’t string a sentence together which is a shame as otherwise your videos are good and informative.
I don't want to get all political, but I'm telling everyone now. Our wise politicians who all follow a demented old Americans extremists policies of sanctions sanctions & more sanctions on top of that have clearly boomeranged. We are all paying much more for the same things & we are all scratching about for something. It's absolute madness. Sanctions do not work & never have worked. They're policies of spite. But it's the likes of us who suffer the most. So I'm sorry to say Solid it's the 1st time I've disagreed with any of your opinions. The main reason supply chains on many many items are suffering, are mainly down to a demented old American.
Sanctions don’t have shit to do with motorcycles. There isn’t a country under sanctions that produces anything of value, aside from oil and gas in Russia.
Fact-free political spew. There are no sanctions on motorcycles or cars. If there were, the US price for a 2023 rally would be a lot more than the $50 increase.
I was wonder why demand is soo high these days?! It's like a new generation of bikers discovered dual sports again or what did these riders had before this demand?
I was hoping the LS version suspension was going to stand for Less Sucky. Shows they can ship an L with different suspension, just wish they would offer an upgraded suspension model. I'm sure 50% of buyers would pay $1500 more.
For $1500 you can get really good aftermarket suspension if that is what you want... there are loads of options out there already. Honda pricing this bike at over $7000 USD would not make sense for the intended market (and some people would still want to upgrade it anyway).
@@Superdisco199 well, if you're talking AUD then yes - but equally I don't think you're going to get a particularly high-end Showa front and rear upgrade (and Honda would have to do do both ends) for that kind of money either? Even if they fitted the 450L suspension to this bike, it would cost more than $1500AUD, and some people still choose to swap that out too?
@@jmo2752 What currency would you talk in on an Australian youtube channel ? Who said high end components ? All it needs is OC cartridges and a serviceable bladder shock. Even XR/WR250R level suspension would be lucky to cost them $200 more at the manufacturing level.
I think you should say also de "cons" of this bikes. If you only show de "pros" of the bikes is not really that usefull in order to find an alternative, since is not as much of "what I win" and more of a "what is lose" question.
So interestingly enough, I have a CRF250L (Highly modified) and I'm considering selling it to get a DR-Z400. I'm looking for more power and off road capability. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.
ive never gotten the chance to ride a 250L but i do own a drz400 and WOW its amazing off road. its not going to be comfortable for long trips without a 6th gear but it does soo well for around-town to get to trails. i never feel like its a dual sport, and it pulls harder to 60mph than my cb500x. the drz also isnt that heavy considering its power, i think if you ride one you probably wont care about going with a new 300L unless you absolutely have to have fuel injection or a slightly better highway experience. keep ethenol free fuel in the drz400 when not riding, and a battery tender, it'll never let you down.
@@smiththers2 Many thanks! I forgot to mention that I also have a DR650 that is going to be my Adv touring bike. The DRZ would be for pure Dual Sport rides and the occasional back roads ride to work
you know im talking with a dealership in sydney now have to pre order 2022 bikes what the frigg and i could get one in July HAHAHA ?? Man i'm coming home and i want this bike but the new 2023 model but that's not even released yet there so why would i spend my money on a new 1 year old 300L,, mate your getting roughed over there as i have seen the 2023 here in Oslo with the black frame and grey graffice it looks gooooooood in , norway if they can send them here then its so bad i don't know what you would call it really .....
Haha the supply chain issue is being engineered by Vanguard and Blackrock to create an artificial shortage. There was no chip shortage, what really happened was controlled companies stockpiled semi conductors and ICs and ramped up the price and spouted the narrative. Manufacturers decided that paying an extra 10 cents per unit was a no go and tried to shop around (so the story goes). Unfortunately Blackrock and Vanguard own controlling shares in nearly all major corporations on earth (including the Australian Tax Office) and the corporations that still have autonomy have been coerced through blackbans to comply with the narrative. Hence the sudden rush to push EVs and woke agendas. Its ALL A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN FOR A MARXIST TAKEOVER. The information is available from many sources if you have the time to look into it. You will not reach the truth watching TV or reading official corporate memos and press releases.
That's conspiratorial nonsense. What happened for the chip supply chain was early in Covid, everyone thought global demand for stuff like cars would drop a lot, so car companies and others canceled orders. Gadget makers filled those spots. When everyone started buying cars and everything else, there was no capacity left to soak things up. The other issue is that most car / motorcycle chips are old-node tech, very low margin, small batch, and there's very little economic reason to build more plant to make these.
Global Reset. Factor in manufacturers know currency devaluation and don't want to be caught out with excess stock. Banks are closing in the US with 5 last week. I bought a DRZ400E knowing all these factors. Many parts available and highly recommend the Suzuki over Honda. This is the way.
so what your saying is , if you hadn't told your 2milllion viewers about this little unicorn i would be able to purchase one today? not a solid , solid.🦄
I think the market for the 300 would be a lot shorter if Suzuki had injected and modernized the drz400
It also would not hurt if Kawasaki offered switchable ABS on the klx300, like they do on the klx230S
You would not happy with a modernized DRZ. It would be like the CRF450l. You would have to put an ECU and exhaust just to make it run right. Euro 5 would have the DRZ so chocked up it would suck. Its grandfathered. THEY CANT CHANGE IT.
@@texastruth9752 The 450 l is useles because it is built to race service intervals. A DRZ designed to a DRZ type design brief would have longer service intervals .
I’m still riding my WR250R and will just keep riding it till all the supply issue problems go away.
I would still have mine if I hadn't moved internationally...
If you wait long enough the WR300R may be out by then.
@@marcochavane3124 I wish, that bike is vaporware.
@@AJourneyOfYourSoul you hoping to replace the WR with a CRF?
@@omicrondec I am going to just keep riding it until either a 400-500cc dual sport comes out or a 400-500cc twin cylinder off-road orientated ADV comes out.
I find the 300cc dual sports aren't much different than my WR to upgrade.
I cancelled my order and bought a used 300L for AU $8K with 150 klm. I had to do a 800 klm round trip to collect it but it has been worth it. The problem with these bikes is that you feel the need to upgrade everything especially the suspension. Another AU $6K later and I now have a killer machine although I do not enjoy it on the freeway at 100-110 in a headwind and the seat is a PITA. :) Offraod and tricky trails is where this bike truly shines, it just tractors thru everything and is comfy on connecting roads between trails. Love your channel!
Yep, it’s a little red tractor 🚜
I also got mine in the used market, and fortunately had all the essential mods done already by the previous owner, for him it didn't have enough power even after installing the 550 performance stage 1 ECU, so I told my self and the seller after the test ride "It's a 300cc or 286cc however you want to call it, and for being that displacement and a non Enduro bike the performance is more then adequate,
So I think the key is to be honest with it's displacement then most people will be very happy with the 300l ,then all the aftermarket stuff that is available comes as big bonus
Cheers
The CBR300R cams and Velocity stack paired with the 550 Performance tune will absolutely wake it up.
It's how it should have come from the factory. The best part is you pick up power up top but it really fattens up power down low and in the mid range too. No loss in off-road capability whatsoever.
Thanks Solid!
Really happy with mine and blessed to have got mine in June of ‘21.
Good luck to all those still searching!
Great video. I have been riding a 2017 CRF250L since 2020 and have around 10k km on it now. One month ago I upgraded to a CRF300L. I have put around 300 km on it so far so still running in. For sure there are differences from the CRF250L and my early impression is that the 300L is a better/ more capable bike. However I miss my old 250L. Mine was like a well worn pair of your favorite shoes. Frayed around the edges but comfortable and gets you around easily. I have to be honest and say that for an old duffer like me the CRF250L is/ was enough bike! If you can´t get your hands on a CRF300L get a 2017 or newer 250L and save yourself the extra $$$ over a new 300L.
I must have been one of the lucky exceptions...in Dec 2022 I walked into the Honda dealership here in S Pain and asked what the del time would be for a 300 l....they just had 2 cancellations and in the store I transferred the 6 grands in 3 min....2 days later I drove off....one lucky bastard.😊
For those of us that have money but no patience (or years left to ride), I would suggest the Beta lineup. Very light weight and dirt oriented dual sports, with motors to suit any need and skill set.
Hopefully the promised Triumph dirt bikes will morph into dual sports as well.
Yep, I particularly like the 390 RR
@@chroniclesofsolid We here in most of North America need to get the RR-S if we want a plate, but the only difference is a couple kilos of signals and a plate holder. The 390 is the bike for me, based on what I have read. I have not ridden any of them, and would obviously test ride them all before spending that amount of coin.
I’m also curious to see what Triumph comes up with.
Also, AJP boasts some pretty cool offerings, at least in my country they seem to have been entering the markey aggressively lately.
Nice info on what's up with Honda deliveries. Last Fall I saw the previews of the 2023 CB300R and loved the black/yellow color scheme. When I started to see how few 2022 models were around and no updates on the '23 deliveries, I decided to buy the '22 model in December. Really happy with my purchase and for a small outlay I replaced my blue plastics with yellow ones and now have an awesome looking "2022 1/2" CB300R! In retrospect that was certainly a good decision. Sometimes you just have to get creative...
Quite familiar with the waiting game. 5 months for my Tenere 700. However, the 250 / 300 would do 90% and I am certainly fond of that class of dual sport!!!! Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, all make machines I could live with and love forever. Thanks COS, we enjoy your channel very much.
I can't believe no one is talking about the fact that Honda isn't selling the XR650 in Australia. The XR's were absolutely huge in the 80'. Now, with the adventure bike category being so popular, it makes no sense. I, for one, would buy one in a heartbeat. The 350 is no replacement. An opportunity missed!
@rippleboobs5641 nice name!
@rippleboobs5641 No. I'm guessing old tits.
I ordered the CRF 300 Rally and had 2 delays, and I am glad I did.
I have both a Rally and a regular in Central Florida that I will sell. Both have plenty of upgrades and under 2K miles. Have extra oil change supplies and air cleaners to go with them along with the oem tires.
So, after lkg for a good used bike for 3 years, and refusing to spend 13000 on a new dirt bike, I decided to buy a pumper carb for the DRZ400S. A thousand isn’t too bad for a new personality. Also think they should remove pollution control requirements as the sum total of dirt bike pollution is likely less than single diesel truck.
I waited months and was basically told I was too far down the list at each location I called that I most likely won't get one this year. So I upgraded to the 450RL and love it! 😁
ive been on the wait list since may 14th.
I've had a Cb500x on order for 3 months. The dealer was totally honest and said they didn't have a clue how long it would be, probably spring. The is a disconnect between Honda and its distribution network. I don't doubt Honda know exactly what their demand is and when they can achieve it, but they arn't telling their dealers.
Honda have realised it is more profitable to artificially starve the market and keep margins sky high than maintain regular supply. They could do it if they want to. As other posters have pointed out there are no supply shortages in Thailand the place it is manufactured. They are doing the same thing with their cars too. For example they have pushed up the price of the CB500X hundreds of $$$ over the last couple of years. Eventually they will resume supply but attempt to maintain the higher prices. It is a way "educate" buyers that they must pay for for their cars/motorbikes in future and thereby lock in the higher margins for good. Hopefully Chinese and Indian manufactures allied with good old competition will rain on their parade and force prices down.
You keep saying Japan. Isn't the 300 made in Thailand?
I’ve had a reservation on a 300L Rally for the last three months, but kept searching for one that was available immediately. Found a used 2021 with 2K miles (3219 KM) and bought it yesterday. I’m excited!
Congratulations. I just turned 1700 miles on mine, and I love it more now than I did when I first bought it. I’m Still making mods to it too, but I still love it. It’s such a capable machine.
@@airadaimagery692 Thanks! I also have a big adventure bike. I was moving both around in the garage yesterday. I can already tell how much more I’m going to enjoy riding the 300L off-road. So excited!
Hey Solid we in the States are getting the little xr150l this year. I've got a deposit on one for my wife. If your familiar with it was wondering if you you could do. A video for us. Thanks for what you do friend. I'm excited for your future, riding with my kids and grandkids is the best!!
They are no longer street legal in Australia I believe (no abs) but they are still sold as farm bikes. I have just ridden one thousands of kms from Saigon to Hanoi in Vietnam and I really liked the bike. Easy to ride and more comfortable than you would expect. Very fuel efficient with a 400km or so range. Will cruise at 70-80 kph comfortably. They have a reputation in Vietnam for being very dependable. A bit heavy for the size though.
I am loving the CRF300 Rally. Was told 6-12 month wait a year or so ago. So started watching the used market and snapped up a very low km Rally from Coast Powersports in Adelaide. 👍
Nice 👍
@@chroniclesofsolid I trust fatherhood is going well 👍
don't overlook the drz250 it's only 2hp less than the 300l 10kg lighter wet weight, better suspension, 6spd, dirt simple and bulletproof reliable.
i got a 300l and love it.
it was hard to choose between honda Kawasaki Suzuki
We don't have drz250 here in USA but sounds like an interesting bike
@@ferkuzuel i'm pretty sure the drz250 was sold in usa but maybe it wasn't street legal or hasn't been sold for a long time there. they were discontinued here in australia in 2020
I agree , but the problem here in my part of Canada is the used market prices are not that far off new! 🤨
Just got a used 300l 2 days ago. In fact, rode it over to get the refund on my deposit for a new one at my local dealer. :) Was about to cave and get a used klx300 which tend to run a little cheaper. Contemplated the WR but glad I stuck it out.
If you’re looking for the 300, but a nice used 250 shows up in used inventory, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one. IMHO, there doesn’t seem to be enough difference between the two to worry about.
I was looking for a 300 Rally when a 2017 250 Rally appeared at my Triumph dealer, looking virtually brand new, and with only about 1500 miles. It was clearly well cared for, and has been an outstanding little stomper, so far.
Factories are pushing employees leave to close the factories due to low demand and full stock. They are just trying to keep the prices up and that is it. Supply chains are working 100% for months now. Don't buy a Brand new car or motorcycle for the next months and buy it cheaper before the end of the year. I saw a few people having to wait months for a vehicle to be delivered and the build date is mid 2022. Used market is full at the moment because many people can't pay for their mortgage and need to sell something. Buy used for now and in 1 year buy new for a much better deal.
Great update Solid.
I was in a store last week and the Yam WR450 was on sale and in stock and no ABS as being sold as a road registerable Enduro/ competition bike.
Honda Dropped the CRF450L because of ABS issue from what I understand and Big Mistake IMO.
It seems once again Honda have lost control of the market and the guys at the top seem to be sleeping.
The old DRZ400 , KLX300 and even the XR600 or XR650 all great alternatives but second hand still pulling high prices.
I sold my 1989 XR600 RK last October for 6K - Great fo me but now regretting it as new bikes just not arriving.
Enduro bikes can be sold without ABS, but they have to meet strict specifications. It's the only reason the DRZ400 is still sold, unfortunately, the DR650 doesn't meet the enduro requirements.
450l was dropped in australia due to lack of interest. the crf450x was street legal for years and the l has less hp than the drz400e without the reliability of the 400e. they ended up with a bike that still wasn't suitable for everyday or long distance riding but didn't have the performance of a street legal enduro play bike like the old crf450x. add in the issue that they didn't even run properly and needed a new $ computer to sort them out. they just didn't suit anybody.
I decided I was buying a 300L on a Wednesday in May of last year and had one in my garage the next day. Just had to call 20 dealerships and be willing to drive.
They had a 300L, 450RL, and the 300L Rally ABS on the showroom floor. Got to test ride all of them and liked the way the Rally handled on the highway better. No mark ups or market adjustments either.
There are some out there if you look hard enough.
Damn - despite my wife's complaining, I guess I was smart to get mine last fall lol. Glad to see you keeping up the lord's work, Solid - how's fatherhood treating you?
😆👍🏽
Me too.
Fatherhood is a little rough so far 😅
@@chroniclesofsolid wait till puberty, mate.
@@chroniclesofsolid Proof that you can actually survive without regular sleep...
@@chroniclesofsolid You'll never know how tough you really are until you have kids lol. It gets better once they figure a sleep schedule. Stay strong my dude.
Mine arrived today! Picking it up early next week
Is it 300l and 2023 model with red handguards?
@MrJwonka 300LRally, I haven't seen it yet but I presume the usual colour scheme.
Have fun!
I have been waiting my CRF 250 rally for 11 months. I am from Malaysia.
I put money down this week. It’s supposed to be here (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) mid-end April. I’m really really hoping this is true. Love the channel. Big reason I went with this bike lots of research went into it though. Can’t wait! Cheers!
Congrats 🥳 Hopefully all goes well. I got mine in a reasonable time so hopefully you do too.
This depends a bit on where you are. In the US, sit and wait. There are no Hondas of any kind available aside from Groms and Navis and the occasional Supercub. At the same time, watch patched bandit and he got a deal on his 300L in Finland, and there were 4 others (including Rally) on the floor with no buyers. Honda's clearly having some issues matching inventory to destination geographies. I don't know if that's because the bikes are any different or not. If you read Honda's latest financial reports, you'll see that they shipped a record number of motorcycles in 2022 (about 5x as many motorcycles as cars) and motorcycles are a big source of profit as well (3x the operating profit as what's generated from cars). Management commentary on supply chain tends to focus on chip issues for cars. I didn't see any recent callouts for supply-chain issues that seemed motorcycle specific. Maybe I missed them. Honda sold ~14.3 million motorcycles in 2022 and forecasts selling *closer to 19 million* in 2023. That's an enormous increase. Clearly they have the factory capacity for it, or they wouldn't make the public projections.
News like this makes me think I could find a buyer for my rat-bike-looking CRF250L .. all because I've got a lead on a used XR650L.
from Itchy boots channel! Can't stop day dreaming about it!)
Great alternative options - thanks!
Thanks for this great video! Currently an owner of the mighty CRF300l, but looking for something with more power :) What do you think about the oldschool Yamaha XT 600 as an alternative?
DRZ400E This is the way.
The new Suzuki V-Strom 250 SX is looking like a pretty good buy at $6500 ride away in Aus ... cheap as chips and its gettin good reviews on tube ... love to see you give it a test ride
There is a klx300 sitting at a dealer. I might just cancel my 300 rally order and buy that instead
Back last October dealer said they had a 300L coming in sometime in late November. I put a deposit down on it but did not receive until 8 months later. Glad I was patient. Buying used was not really a good idea for me.
My 300 rally coming in early June
i was hellbent on going with a brand new 300l or klx300 but even when they were around, they were a bit too much money for me. ended up with a drz and honestly its the bike i should have gotten before i got my last bike, the xr400. the xr was a monster but it was also only kick start with almost impossible to find e-start kits. i hurt my knee and hip so it was time for it to go.
Plenty available new in Thailand. Was £2000 cheaper than in the UK too 😊
I heard they were made, or at least put together in Thailand.
The grey LS looks freakin mint! Big wait I presume but mm looks perfect to me
I finally got my 300L earlier this month. I ordered it in April 2022 so about an 11 month wait for me.
I was wanting a 300L until the dealer laid the $8.2k sales agreement down. Instead I found a minty 17 250L ABS for $4.2k with 2.5k miles on it. It had a full FMF exhaust, EJK tuner, new tires, and LED lighting. I swapped out the front suspension with Racetech and the rear with an Ohlins. My buddy has a 300L, and yes its MARGINALLY faster on road, but off road its a different story due to my suspension. I saved easily $5k for an awesome bike. You pay dearly for the extra 36cc.
This is my problem now too. I was excited to find my local dealer had a 300L in stock. $5699 MSRP, but becomes $8900 out the door. Absolutely ridiculous. These are not almost $10k bikes.
Very good video. Great information. Thanks
I got a 300 Rally second hand with just over a thousand 1000kms on it , first serve done ✅ and never been off road . 9000
Yep agree with you mate get a cheep bike and ride it 😁👍 any bike is better than no bike 🤔 so far i am loving my new old DRZ400E 😁 bit more power than my old TTR250 and weight but still loving it 😉🍺
Nice one Jeff, glad you’re gelling with the DRZ 🍺👍
Got a 300L last year by patiently watching dealer stock in my area, having cash in hand, and calling as soon as one of the local dealers showed an incoming bike. Got a new bike at a decent price this way, and I wouldn’t want a different one.
Folk like you, Solid, who have a meaningful, influential and representative platform in the bike market, have been banging on for years about the need for this so-called, 'unicorn' of mid-weight dual-sport or adventure bikes. Honda finally produce the thing and .... surprise! surprise! .... everyone wants one, and so now there are not enough to go round. If only these manufacturers would do their market research properly and first listen to the people who might want to buy and ride the bikes they produce. Finish of rant!
Agreed
Riding in 🇹🇭 around Christmas time, there were hundreds in honda showrooms across the country. We're not a priority for Honda for this model. Selling 300 bikes a year here means nothing when you can sell 30000 elsewhere.
Easy to say if you are 6ft+ tall, not so easy for inseam-challenged people. For these folks literally only a few bikes available, I have no choice but wait for the CRF-300LS
In your opinion, why is the 300L so heavy? I would love to get a smaller bike for my wife, but the weight of this bike is just too much.
In a nutshell 1) cheaper materials are generally heavier 2) the 250l/300 is derived from a street bike.
I have one for sale right now yet no interest. With only 700 kms on it (it's literally brand new....had it one month) and selling it for $200 less than I bought it for and includes a rear rack. Has a 4 year warranty. Starting to think these aren't quite in as high demand as some are saying.
Is Voge 300 Rally available there? That's almost the same as CRF 300L Rally. I think the most known weakness of the CRF 300 is the suspension. The Voge has much better suspension that can handle the weight of a grown up.
It's possible I'll be moving US to Ecuador. Expats can't import a vehicle. Most motorcycles there are close to double the price they are in other countries and models offered are limited. They do have a trading partnership with China, those goods don't get the high tax that make the others so expensive. They don't get the Voge but, they do get the Loncin 300 Rally and I think they're the same except the name and colors. I think they both get the KLX300 clone engine. I think the Loncin is actually cheaper than the price of the Voge, Loncin $3200 US out the door price. I hope the Voge/Loncin is as good as the reviews I've seen so far and they don't fall apart in short order.
@@jerrym3261 My pal has one. He's satisfied with its quality. Although, the bike is quite new for him. Actually, he bought that after it was recommended by a guy who owns both the CRF300L Rally and the Voge 300 Rally. This guy used the bike in very rough terrains and long trips and loved the bike more than the Honda..
@@MaZoOnTheRoad Thanks! That's good news! I'm 69 years old so, I'm not going to push a motorcycle nearly as hard as I would have in years past. I have 10 motorcycles now and the one I ride most is a Honda CB250 Nighthawk, it's just so easy. Had it not been for Itchy Boots being in Ecuador, I probably would have went for a Honda CG (pushrods) design, low power, 250, made in China bike just to ride up and down the beach road. Everything I hear about the Voge makes me think the Loncin would be more than capable of riding the mountains in Ecuador.
Suzuki got a v Strom 250sx coming next mouth to Australia for about 6400 ride a way 7000 down here in new Zealand 🇳🇿
Cheers
I had a deposit on a 300l rally for most of 2022. I had a 16k service due on my 250 rally in September , so I pulled my deposit to pay for the service. As of this date ,no 300 Rally ,or L has arrived.
Literally 3 hours ago I was looking at the Honda Australia website... I was just curious.
I live in Japan, and because of the crazy 60 year old license system here, they don't even sell the 300... or any dual sport/enduro that is registrable that is over 249cc from ANY Japanese maker.
What do you mean? You can't buy a T7 in japan? And what's that 60 years old license system?
My wait was over January 9th the day I got my 300l rally. I'm up in Canada, tho so I will have snow for a few more weeks
Its interesting Honda is still blaming supply chain issues for this. Honda manages to produce adequate numbers of brand new GoldWings -arguably their most complex motorcycle, Grom's, Fury's, CRF450's, and Rebels. At least here in the US, Honda hasn't even announced the 2023 version of the Africa Twin, yet it seems readily available in Mexico, Canada, Europe, and I believe Australia. WTF.
I hope @itchyboots is making some money from Honda for the good advertising.
I doubt she gets money from Honda. I bet Honda has made her offers but, she's not going to sell control to Honda.
I was looking at the CRF300L or LS for my first bike as a commuter. l found a CRF300L and a Rally at a local dealer near me. The issue is they are marking these bikes up over 2k over MSRP in my area. The local dealer wanted $7900 out the door for a CRF300L which is insane the 300L goes for $5600 MSRP No way l'm paying that so l've decided to go with a Royal Enfield Scram 411. I'm not planning on doing much offroad riding if any and the 411 has a much longer range then the 300L. With dealer fees the 411 comes to about $6300 its MSRP is $5099. Much cheaper out the door. If l want to do trails l can and if l want to ride street l can.
I called several dealers here in Washington state that have a Rally in stock at $6199. Every dealer "out the door" price was about $8100. That's why I hate buying from dealers. I wish I could find a dealer that had the balls to list the full price up front. I would actually pay more from a dealer who was honest up front, then the current crop that just list the MSRP which means nothing. I traveled 400 miles to purchase a Tiger 900 from Empire Cycle in Spokane because they were honest enough to advertise the full price up front.
@@ultrarnr4454 Yeah it's extremely annoying and none of the dealers will work with you as they are very popular bikes and they know they can find someone who wants the bike enough who will just eat the markup. I wish Honda would issue a warning to these dealers. Saying if you mark these up we will cut your shipment in half but Honda doesn't care.
How about the popularity of “ ItchyBoots” on UA-cam?
Put my order in last August. Still waiting.
It is odd. In the US, near impossible to find a new 300 Rally, but dealers seem to have plenty of the new KLR650 bikes available. So is Kawasaki doing something better (chip wise, supply chain wise) than Honda? I'm sure we will never know the real details ... like maybe the Rally dash display isn't available? Or 1-2 components aren't available so they just wait??
Who wants A KLR
Dude you’ve got to ether read a script or talk over footage like Barry vibrantly twitching and jumping makes it look like you can’t string a sentence together which is a shame as otherwise your videos are good and informative.
I don't want to get all political, but I'm telling everyone now. Our wise politicians who all follow a demented old Americans extremists policies of sanctions sanctions & more sanctions on top of that have clearly boomeranged. We are all paying much more for the same things & we are all scratching about for something. It's absolute madness. Sanctions do not work & never have worked. They're policies of spite. But it's the likes of us who suffer the most. So I'm sorry to say Solid it's the 1st time I've disagreed with any of your opinions. The main reason supply chains on many many items are suffering, are mainly down to a demented old American.
Planned Reset.
Sanctions don’t have shit to do with motorcycles. There isn’t a country under sanctions that produces anything of value, aside from oil and gas in Russia.
Fact-free political spew. There are no sanctions on motorcycles or cars. If there were, the US price for a 2023 rally would be a lot more than the $50 increase.
I was wonder why demand is soo high these days?! It's like a new generation of bikers discovered dual sports again or what did these riders had before this demand?
Had a brand new 300l now sold the seat was really uncomfortable like a plank of wood and took for ever to reach 70mph
I was hoping the LS version suspension was going to stand for Less Sucky. Shows they can ship an L with different suspension, just wish they would offer an upgraded suspension model. I'm sure 50% of buyers would pay $1500 more.
😝 and agreed a premium suspension pack option would be amazing
For $1500 you can get really good aftermarket suspension if that is what you want... there are loads of options out there already. Honda pricing this bike at over $7000 USD would not make sense for the intended market (and some people would still want to upgrade it anyway).
@@jmo2752 for $1500AUD you can barely get an aftermarket resevoir shock. I'd still prefer geniuine showa even so.
@@Superdisco199 well, if you're talking AUD then yes - but equally I don't think you're going to get a particularly high-end Showa front and rear upgrade (and Honda would have to do do both ends) for that kind of money either? Even if they fitted the 450L suspension to this bike, it would cost more than $1500AUD, and some people still choose to swap that out too?
@@jmo2752 What currency would you talk in on an Australian youtube channel ? Who said high end components ? All it needs is OC cartridges and a serviceable bladder shock. Even XR/WR250R level suspension would be lucky to cost them $200 more at the manufacturing level.
With dealer fees they are knocking on ten grand. I bought a KTM race bike, and a used DRZ instead. No complaints.
itchy boots must be selling tens of thousands of these as she has showed its value
Noraly is having some issues with her bike that apparently started with an overheating in hot weather. Any thoughts?
I think you should say also de "cons" of this bikes. If you only show de "pros" of the bikes is not really that usefull in order to find an alternative, since is not as much of "what I win" and more of a "what is lose" question.
The EPA is an excelent example of Governent overreach.
i must be lucky or something i just walked into a dealership and bought one without a markup too.
Same as the cb500x in Australia.
why does Kawasaki noty sel their KLX in other countries? Would not it be the hit for them?
No ABS
Since you seem to have fairly extensive experience with the Honda. ABS or non-ABS?
All good options.
Voge 300 Rally
There are an absolute ton if you nick down to Geelong
Its simple, all the Grom riders want the more ccs of the 300
Nice alternatives!
So interestingly enough, I have a CRF250L (Highly modified) and I'm considering selling it to get a DR-Z400. I'm looking for more power and off road capability. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.
ive never gotten the chance to ride a 250L but i do own a drz400 and WOW its amazing off road. its not going to be comfortable for long trips without a 6th gear but it does soo well for around-town to get to trails. i never feel like its a dual sport, and it pulls harder to 60mph than my cb500x. the drz also isnt that heavy considering its power, i think if you ride one you probably wont care about going with a new 300L unless you absolutely have to have fuel injection or a slightly better highway experience. keep ethenol free fuel in the drz400 when not riding, and a battery tender, it'll never let you down.
@@smiththers2 Many thanks! I forgot to mention that I also have a DR650 that is going to be my Adv touring bike. The DRZ would be for pure Dual Sport rides and the occasional back roads ride to work
you know im talking with a dealership in sydney now have to pre order 2022 bikes what the frigg and i could get one in July HAHAHA ?? Man i'm coming home and i want this bike but the new 2023 model but that's not even released yet there so why would i spend my money on a new 1 year old 300L,, mate your getting roughed over there as i have seen the 2023 here in Oslo with the black frame and grey graffice it looks gooooooood in , norway if they can send them here then its so bad i don't know what you would call it really .....
Atk was the best I got
Haha the supply chain issue is being engineered by Vanguard and Blackrock to create an artificial shortage.
There was no chip shortage, what really happened was controlled companies stockpiled semi conductors and ICs and ramped up the price and spouted the narrative. Manufacturers decided that paying an extra 10 cents per unit was a no go and tried to shop around (so the story goes).
Unfortunately Blackrock and Vanguard own controlling shares in nearly all major corporations on earth (including the Australian Tax Office) and the corporations that still have autonomy have been coerced through blackbans to comply with the narrative.
Hence the sudden rush to push EVs and woke agendas. Its ALL A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN FOR A MARXIST TAKEOVER.
The information is available from many sources if you have the time to look into it. You will not reach the truth watching TV or reading official corporate memos and press releases.
That's conspiratorial nonsense. What happened for the chip supply chain was early in Covid, everyone thought global demand for stuff like cars would drop a lot, so car companies and others canceled orders. Gadget makers filled those spots. When everyone started buying cars and everything else, there was no capacity left to soak things up. The other issue is that most car / motorcycle chips are old-node tech, very low margin, small batch, and there's very little economic reason to build more plant to make these.
@@SethJayson Looks like you bought exactly what they were selling.
Global Reset. Factor in manufacturers know currency devaluation and don't want to be caught out with excess stock. Banks are closing in the US with 5 last week. I bought a DRZ400E knowing all these factors. Many parts available and highly recommend the Suzuki over Honda. This is the way.
Dont get it. They're small and slow. I tried one out and its not for adults.
Why build a cheap motorbike with $600 profit when you can use the same chips and presses for a £23,000 CBR1000RR or Gold Wing DCT at £33,000
I'm working at a dealership in Canada and we have about seven of them lying around 😂
Just don’t get a Ktm500exc, you’ll never be satisfied with a Honda 300 after riding the five hundy 😂
Itchy Boots had a 500 - now drives the 300 and loves it.
you should post NEW alternatives. Otherwise you could say you could buy 300L used instead of the new one
"Rare as rocking horse poop!"
I'm seriously trying to decide between a second hand KLR and a Himalayan. What would your advice be for and adventure bike?
both are too heavy and underpowered. look at the Kawasaki versys 300x
so sick of all these government bs regulations, they won't be happy until every motor is dead then they'll go after electric bikes and ban those.
so what your saying is , if you hadn't told your 2milllion viewers about this little unicorn i would be able to purchase one today? not a solid , solid.🦄
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I chy boots Noraly made popular crf300 rally 😂
Just order a KTM 690 Enduro if you can afford it
I think its because of the appeal that this bike has for the ladies.
someone just stole my 2022 300l crf rally from wayne national forest sycamore trailhead door run ohio.
Lmao ain't no way anyone selling their KTM 350exc to buy a crf 300L.