Honda CRF300L Rally and Tenere 700 Review and Comparison - Which Adventure motorcycle is best
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- Honda CRF300 Rally and Tenere 700 Review and Comparison - Which Adventure motorcycle is best for you
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0:00 intro
1:05 Overview
2:20 comparison and similarities
3:43 Specifications
5:14 off road capabilities
9:30 on road experience
12:30 looks and aesthetics
15:14 Upgrades and modifications
18:42 Final thoughts
Honda CRF300L Rally: Where the dirt ends and road begins, the CRF300L Rally is waiting to bring adventure bike capability to your everyday commute. The nimble design and plentiful low-end power combine with smart features for an ideal transportation solution through busy streets and bumpy trails. The bodywork is inspired by Dakar Rally racebikes, which means it looks as good as it performs. The tall windscreen provides solid protection against the elements. And the long motocross-style seat gives you all-day comfort and allows you to easily move around in the saddle. If you have a dual sport that’s even lighter and more affordable in mind, make sure you check out our honda CRF300L.
Yamaha Tenere 700:
The Yamaha Ténéré 700 is a midsize adventure/dual-sport motorcycle manufactured by Yamaha since 2019. It features a 689 cc (42.0 cu in) parallel-twin engine which powers the motorcycle through a six-speed gearbox and chain drive. Brakes are equipped with rider-switchable (on-off) ABS. The "baby Ténéré" is the latest in a series of dual-sport Yamaha motorcycles named after the Ténéré desert stage of the Dakar Rally in the Sahara. The successor to Yamaha's XT660Z Ténéré was first announced as the T7 concept at the 2016 EICMA with an anticipated production launch in 2018. A refined concept was publicized a year later.
Yamaha announced that delivery of bikes would begin in Europe in July 2019, and only the following year to the USA due to emissions and other regulatory delays. The liquid-cooled 4-stroke 8-valve DOHC engine with crossplane crankshaft was already in use and well reviewed in Yamaha's MT-07 naked and Tracer 700 sport touring bikes.
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The fact that you're comparing a 300 cc bike to a 700 cc bike is a huge endorsement to the smaller bike from word one. Even more so when you know the 700 is one of the finest motorcycles available today.
Believe it or not, This comparison is something many people are torn over. Most people can only have one motorcycle and these two are highly sought after. I guarantee this video helps a lot of people out and will get a ton of views in the first few weeks alone.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad It's a fine video and I have no doubts many will want to see it. I was just commenting on the extraordinary nature of the comparison. I think you're making a good observation here.
OK well thank you. Like your YT icon btw its like an @ symbol with a scull? did you make it yourself or does is it from something I dont know about?
hmm - but that is actually a realistic question to me !
thx for the Vid !
I was actually torn between these two. Availability made me buy the 300 rally used. Thanks for this review and yes I agree with the fact that the 300 and 700 are compared is a win for the 300.
Riding offroad since nearly 40 years I bought myself a T7. And by far, the best bike i ever owned. Loved every minute riding this bike. Then i got the idea to take part at a dersert rallye in marroc. So i started preparing myself, did lots of training, managed to get faster and faster. I was really happy with myself. I was able to use the huge power of the bike offroad. It was amazing. Until i crashed, finding myself in the gravel, destroyed....just one week before the rallye starts. One year preparation for nothing. No i have to wait for a year until my body is recovered. So i have the time to watch your hole video .......and maybe go for a 300
Ouch that sucks. hope you are recovering and will get a new bike afterwards
Great video and loved the intro. Been riding for 50+ years and I’m currently on a HD Pan America. Started in the dirt as a kid and went to the street as an adult and then the big barkaloungers as an old man. The Harley came out with their adventure bike and now I’m back in the dirt. And loving it. I’m giving the 300 rally some serious thought as a second bike just because the big adv bike doesn’t like the sand and mud that’s so prominent here in Florida. It does it, don’t get me wrong, but it’s a lot of bike to pick back up.
Thanks, finally a review that is not kissing the ass of the brands and properly informative and comparative thanks again.
I was wandering which of this to buy as my second bike for light off-road & touring, your vid. definitely going to the "save" folder to rewatch when the time comes.
awesome, thx! that was exactly what I needed as I'm planning on buying a CRF300 here in Thailand. thx bro
I have both a 250L Rally and an Africa Twin and I love having options. I've camped and done day trips with each of them and it just depends what kind of mood I'm in and how technical the terrain will be. For longer trips with more highway, I go with the Africa Twin and would use the Tenere if that's what I had.
Really good review. I've the old 660z and a new 300 rally. I feel like I've the best of both worlds now. Love what the rally is opening up to me now riding wise.
Many people call it heavy but for what it is the rally is actually light for its class.
I found your review very balanced and informative for anyone considering either motorcycle or any dual sport vs adventure. I’ve a CRF250L and a BMW F850GS. Everything you said is correct. Technical Off-road light is right, therefore the CRF. On road the adventure motorcycle is great. Every motorcycle is a compromise and there is no unicorn.
Nice shout out to Itchy Boots! Enjoyed the content, keep it up.
Good review, keep up the reviews, rides, mod suggestions etc… I love bikes and having someone like you, take the time, effort, videoing splicing editing etc… says a lot ❤, having options ( multiple bikes ) is the best !
Thanks for the comment, and in time I will keep them coming.
WATCHED Until the end Andrew. Amazing and very helpful!!! Thank you 💚🙏🙏🙏
Great. review Andrew truly enjoyed the ride along
Thank you for including metric units in the chart.
Always do! I want to make the videos approachable for everyone.
Another great review. I’m looking to downsize from my KTM 790 adventure to a dual sport and having a hard time making a decision - the drz400 and crf300 rally are top of my list. (I’m just kind of looking for a replacement for my old XT 500. ) you really hit all the right notes and questions I have. Thank you!
Love my 300 Rally! Great video dude!
Thank you and thanks for the comment.
One of the best informative videos I’ve seen. Thanks for your input👍
Thank you, I am happy you found the video useful. I put a ton of time into it.
Excellent timing for me, I have the hots for a 300L but I’m going to look at a T7 tomorrow. Pretty sure I’m gonna stick with the lighter (and much more thrashable) 300L as most of my serious road miles are done on a Goldwing. Thanks Andrew for the most excellent content!
I ride a honda 450L. Checked out a t7 and it was so heavy. I fall down too much and my 450L feels heavy to pickup on the side of a hill.
Great video! I'm leaning towards a Tenere 700 as I've had dirt bikes in the past so something that is more capable on the road would be nice but still able to go poking around up gravel roads that would be beyond a road bike.
The Honda front end weird light thing is my FAVORITE part of it. Makes it look like a weird alien. Love the front HA!
haha well, to me it looks strange.
@chriscopeland1318 same man
Great video and comparison Andrew! I have one of the heavier weight "ADV" bikes for road/gravel touring but looking to drop the pounds for something that makes more backcountry sense. Time to book some test rides on the CRF and T7 I think. Have a fab week and thanks again :)
Loved this review! Every bit of it. You really covered it all, for both bikes.
I retired in 2020, and wanted a bike again, 29 years after I sold my last one, a Suzuki TS250. I read Ghost Rider, that got me interested in Adventure models, particularly the T7, but there were none to be had😢. I wound up getting a new 2019 Africa Twin for the same price though, a good deal, but a heavy monster of a bike.
2-1/2 years, 36,000 miles, and 4 sets of tires later, I do still love the AT, but at 69, and having lost weight and muscle (long COVID), I can no longer pick it up. I only feel the most confident off roading when I have help along, which isn’t all that often, as my friends mostly all still work. So to give me something to toss around, I began looking for a CRF300L Rally, but could only find a non-ABS 300L standard. So I bought it, and have warmed up to it, and it filled the bill for my intentions at a reasonable price.
Recently I got to test ride a used Rally, and of course, loved it, but not enough to pay $1800 difference trading in the 300l.
Your review really means a lot to me, and it didn’t disappoint in any way. If I could do it all over again, I’d have bought the T7 first, then the Rally. I seem to often wind up with second or third best, but I’ve still had a great time getting back into biking with my two Hondas, and will continue until I am not able. See you out there!!
👍
Great review, keep them coming.
I just purchased my 2022 rally and can't wait to ride it. 🍻
Awesome! It is a solid bike!
Thanks a million. Great informative vid.
Great video. Very helpful. I gotta find me a Rally. Thanks for your work.
I am glad you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Great video.. I have just swapped my t7 for a 300 rally.. previously had a 300l.. swapped that for a ktm excf 350.. in my opinion.. the 300 rally is the best option.. you can't use the extra power most of the time.. I still have the ktm.. but it has limited uses compared to the rally.. and I found the t7.. very top heavy..
I don't typically make comments, but both bikes are beautiful. I just happen to think that the Honda rally is the best looking of most motorcycles I have seen these days. I also like the high fender. And I don't mind the squinty eyed headlight of the Honda.
I have never ridden either one of these motorcycles, but I bet twisting the throttle on the Yamaha is a lot of fun.
I even have a good time on my Honda trail 70, but I also have the DRZ E. Although here in Texas I had to install a cooling fan for the radiator. My trail text speedometer was telling me my engine was about to melt.
Thanks for the comparison
Looking to purchase next year. I think you sum up well. Still don’t know what to buy but very close to the Honda. Happy Christmas.
Excellent video, thank you.
Cool video! Looks like fun having both of those.
Thank you, I am super lucky. I also have a Street legal KDX200 2 stroke.
Watched to the end. Thanks!
Thanks!
Both great bikes. I kinda prefer the little Honda due to it's affordability and low maintenance character as well as other benefits you listed. I would probably go with the Tenere' though, due to my use mostly being on road and also Ryan F9 did an amazing review which sold me on it and caused some bias!!
Great vid as always buddy, I enjoyed every second. Cheers from the UK 🇬🇧
F9 great reviewer
Thanks for thia video. Cross shopping both bikes at the moment
Thank you, so many people have said this video was not a good comparable video but I feel a lot of people are looking at both of these bikes.
Amazingly informative video!
Thank you, and thank you for taking the time to watch/comment.
Watched the end and I think I will go with the Honda 300 rally. Thanks again. When you talk about all the other bikes you have / own. Let's me know that you are not just trying to sale one over the other. I have found a rally close by my home town. Hopefully I can get it when I get home. In five more weeks. 🤞🙏
I think it really comes down to what you want to do on a motorcycle. Both of these bikes are very capable and worth the price. I own the crf300l myself, but see the advantages of either of these bikes. I do shorter rides and like the lightness of the 300 to whip around off road trails. The fuel mileage is great to. Love the Channel!
Great review and comparison! That sure looks like the Pine Barrens in this video.
Some of it could be, I ride NJ, PA, and MD.
Great review! I always watch your entire video. I'm a big dual sport fan and a fan of your channel. Ride on brother!
Thank you and thanks for all the support. I was over at your channel a little while ago and saw all you videos were gone?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Yes. I might upload some of them again after some editing and maybe make more content in the future. I just felt my videos were bad and that I can do better. Embarrassed I guess.
Great video! My brother in law has the CRF300 Rally, and it's a really nice bike. But being over 250 lbs, I think my next bike is the T7 or Tuareg.
I know you didn't ask for it but if you want my advice, the only bike I think can be the sweet spot is the KTM690 ENDURO. Great power, light, great service intervals.
Good stuffed. Watched entire vid. Thanks Andrew.
Hey! Thank you for the support and watching the whole thing.
What a great video, thanks.
I would love the 300 Rally but unfortunately it's not available in 🇿🇦.
I purchased a 2006 Gen 1 KLR 650 & it's pretty cool...
Apparently Honda SA are bringing in the Rally version with their 2023 allocation. I got the 300L in July, and Honda dealer said they would bring in the Rally next year due to the interest they have received.
Great content, really informative....thanks 😊
Thank you and Im glad it helped!
Great comparison. TY
Thank you! and I am glad you found the video useful.
Great content.
I'm not still here for a ❤, I didn't know that was a thing. But thanks for a great, non-biased review, I really appreciate it 😊
No problem, glad you enjoyed the content
That was some good info and perspective nice job man👍 And anyone wondering why you would compare these 2 bikes before the vid probably has a better understanding of why, if they watch the full vid. So many peeps out there want power and comfort for the street riding but also want the agility and offroad performance for the dirt and ya gotta compromise somewhere. So knowing which type of riding you do most plus what you can and can't live with and or handle will help you decide between these 2 bikes, that I agree are probably being cross shopped by a lot of people.
Haha well Im still going to get a ton of people saying they dont know why this video exists ect. I dont care tho, the people who want to see a different perspective or who like my content will enjoy that video and that is who its for.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad for sure👍
Great video. As someone looking to get their first bike with alot of interest takeing it off road i really appreciate it as these are the two bikes I've narrowed it down to. Think I'll go see a Honda dealer with hopes to get a T7 in the future. The rally seems to do everything I need cheaper with just a hit on highway rideing. Watched the whole thing. Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching that long. Also I used to do MMA as well. Have a good week!
Great job
went from a 230 sm honda 2003 to cb500x 2020 to a 2022 Tenere 700 in 2 years !2020 summer was my first year riding .just love the T7
Thats awesome! well welcome to the world of riding.
Tnx for a good video. Stay safe
Thank you, you as well.
I’ve had my Tenere for 18 months now, and can’t argue with any of this 👍
I’m also looking at the 300 rally as a play bike. And to increase my off road skills. I have a ATASESDCT for adventure touring and a C14 for sport touring.
I think it will fit in great with your roster.
Watched the entire video!! It is great and I am torn on which bike to get!
Well thanks for watching! Its a hard choice.
Good honest review. For the T7. Aftermarket exhaust + Tail Tidy can save weight gained from added crash bars. Catalytic converter delete saves even more. Saving ~16lbs should be doable. The weight and high center of gravity are my biggest gripes for the T7. The Tuareg 660 improves on this. I couldn't find a Tuareg 660 locally new or used when I was in the market and they were out of my price range compared to the T7.
T7 takes it in looks and the sound is among my personal all-time favorites. The T7 sounds absolutely wicked which begs to be blipped and ripped. The T7 is a respectable street bike with sleeper like sound and acceleration. It adds to the fun factor. The higher curb weight of the T7 is an advantage for highway in terms of stability/comfort and for a street bike, the weight is on the lower end of the spectrum. The extra power of the T7 is a huge benefit on the street over the CRD300L.
In terms of looks. The T7 does a great job of encapsulating a unique aggressive modern/futuristic mix of street and Dakar without going full transformer which I was never a fan of. It's styled along the lines of modern hypercars or an aggressive rally converted Tesla. For a Honda the CRF300L is a bit more aggressive, but I find it a bit safe/boring as is tradition for Honda. Doesn't look bad by any means, but it's not as attractive to me compared to the T7.
For me it would come down to price or weight. For a newer rider or someone not needing the extra power. I'd go for the CRF300L. I'd get the CRF300l over a KLR650 but would get a T7 over a KLR650 and pretty much everything besides a Tuareg 660. Anything more than that is out of my price range.
The T7 is nearly twice the price of the Honda. It's less bike but it's better value compared to the T7. However the T7 is right behind it in value. In terms of practicality the CRF300L is going to be a more useful all around tool but the added highway comfort of the T7 makes up for it. But the T7 is an absolute beast of a machine and the added performance is a great value on the T7.
I'd like to see how the T7 stacks up to the TransAlp. I suspect it would be similar to the T7 vs CRF300L comparison, coming down to use case.
"I suspect it would be similar to the T7 vs CRF300L comparison" I did this comparison as well a year earlier. I have never had the chance to rude the Tuareg yet.
300L owner here. Never had my hands on a T7 but my impression is that the T7 is geared more towards experienced dirt riders. My 300 is powerful enough to get through anything in my way while remaining very forgiving and being light enough to be tossable. I commented to a friend while it was parked that if it fell over I'd be more upset about my helmet sitting on the seat falling than the bike itself. It's geared well for it's power, acceleration is good and it retains enough power in 6th gear to run most highway speed limits. Running wide open I got about 45mpg on the highway at 75mph and 65 mpg when running a more reasonable 60mph. The extended service intervals are what sold me over larger dirt oriented bikes.
Excellent review, thank you!
I'm on vstrom 800de and thinking to get the crf300l for the woods.
If for the woods only make sure you get the L, man you will be super happy.
Crf 300 l
This if a fair comparison. Personally I would choose the Yamaha since I ride more on-road and it would do any off-roading I do. I will say that fuel injection and a six speed over a carb and five speed doesn't make a real difference to me. I have both and I just don't think one makes enough difference to sway my decision when choosing a bike. Very few carbureted bikes made today anyway. I always thought there wasn't anything wrong with a petcock and having a reserve, but without that I do think a low fuel light is nice. A gear indicator really doesn't matter much to me either. If I try to shift and it doesn't go into another gear I know I'm in either low or high gear. One feature I do like is that the bike settings stay where you set them when you turn to bike off and on. Once I set up the bike I usually never change it again. It's a real pain to have to turn off ABS or traction control every time you shut the bike off. Nice video.
Great comparison, but I had to own both to see for myself. I love duel sports, Between my brother and I, we have the T7, KLR650, DRZ400S, CRF300L, CRF250L, KLX250, KLX230. I enjoy all of them, the two bikes that stand out after riding them are the T7 and the CRF300L, they both show what gear your in, both have a gas gauge, love the T7 power, and how adjustable the suspension is in the T7. The conclusion riding all of these Moto’s is you need a T7 and a CRF300L. They are completely different but you need both for different reasons.
Fun comp. Rally's on order, but I am starting think it won't show up this year. Really want the smaller, lighter bike, but with the range and windscreen. Outside of slower rural roads, I don't anticipate doing any of the more traily-stuff on it, just gravel, non-crazy double and single track. If I can't get the rally before summer riding season -- leaning toward the Tuareg. Not really interested in the little KTM.
Very VERY nice video... one of those you'd think: daaaamn wish somebody took those to bikes for an "unlikely" comparison.
For me it was more about how many people were trying to decide between these 2. Yes they have their differences but a ton of people were looking at these as options, so it felt organic to put them together directly.
Very useful and informative video, thank you. I am actually torn between the two bikes so this was a great watch. I live in the French Alps and my preference is definitely more on the technical off road side of the fence, so feel the 300 is probably going to win out for me. Keep up the good work👍
Thank you for the comment. Its funny because people tell me all the time they are between these 2 bikes. Then on the other side I have people saying you cant compare these 2, I mean you can compare anything and infact these 2 have a lot in-common.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad I think they are definitely comparable because they are possibly the top choice of each category. Even though a huge power difference, both bikes have more off road pedigree for the price than most others in their classes. The big question for me is trying to decide which class my requirements fit. I definitely have a bias to off road ability over highway cruising so the smaller bike possibly makes more sense. Ideally it would be great to try both off road but it’s hard enough in France to even find the Honda let alone test ride one. I test rode the T7 but road only, which doesn’t really give much idea as to how heavy it might feel chucking it around off road. Anyway, your comparison was really great and definitely useful, so thanks again
I bought the Tenere by the way!
Sick brotha
Great video. The whole thing was spot on!! Can I get that heart 👍
Hell yeah! thanks Jacob
I pretty well much always watch the video from beginning to end fully but one little bug bear is regarding the CRF 300 Raleigh notifications you mentioned to really open the bike up and transformer would be great to see a video before and after showing the evidence like acceleration to a certain speed dyno test power of miles per gallon results and anything else that would be educational about the comparison before and after the big free upgrades
I have something like that coming. Where I testing a stock road pull from 10mph to 60mph 4 times and a 40 to 70 4 times. Now with the upgrades I will do it again and see the difference.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad awesome Look forward to it as you could just prepare to somebodys stock version 👌👌
The ideal solution would be having the T7 for the road and the Honda for THE real trip. Need to check my savings...
Thanks!
Hey Mark you are the first person to ever use the New Super thanks feature on my channel. Thanks so much man!
I live in Medellin Colombia and the mot scene here is crazy! For the city riding and this is the first real city I have lived in. The population is about the same as Phoenix AZ but in 10% or 15% of the footprint. So highrises everywhere you look. For city riding, I have a Yammie Bolt 950 w/hines pipe so people know I'm there. Here going the wrong way on a one-way street or riding up on the sidewalk is the norm. It's actually a blast once you get used to it. There's an ex-pat riding group I belong to that takes long rides and daily rides to pueblos throughout Colombia. Bcs my bike is street-oriented I just go on the hwy based ones. However, the hwys here are NOT even close to US hwys. Potholes and landslides are everywhere and in the pueblo to control speed they have speed bumps that vary in size. One of the Guys had the rally equivalent and he rode with ease on our last ride. I ended up getting into a fairly bad accident on my bike (labor is super cheap here and my bike is going to cost me $1,000 USD to fix) my ribs on the other hand will take a few more weeks to get better! Sorry for the long story. I need to get myself an off-road bike and looking at both the Rally and Yammy 250 XT. Already have a big bike so not going to even consider the Tenere. Thanks for vid!!!
In my country the 700 cost 2,5 x more than the 300. I like my 300L only 134kg and cheap economy. Thanks for your video and I subscribed to your channel.
Thank you bikerChris, and damn 2.5x is a lot more.
At first I thought it wouldn’t be a good comparison with a 300 and a 700 but it really was. I’ve always wanted one of these Hondas, they seem like great bikes, but I do a lot of highway miles. Currently I’m riding a Moto Guzzi Stelvio. Great bike for my needs, but can be heavy in town. But the weight really helps on the highway at high speeds.
Sorry for the rambling. Good video all the way through.
No problem and thanks for watching that long!
That rally would be perfect here in Philippines. Thank's for the great video.
Ben Celi PI
Nice! Call it as you see it. 👍
Thank you.
Great Video, very informative! Just wondering, with all the advantages you mentioned for the honda, why keep the Tenere? Do you do any long distance trips on the highway (that's the only advantage I can garner 🙂)?
I was yes, So I used my Tenere 700 as my road bike and my motocamping back but not my offroad bike. So when I do something like a "BDR" style trip I would take the T7. Not I use a DR650.
thank you for adding metric system 4:30
No problem, I try to in every video I do. I want to make the explanations as intuitive as possible for all viewers.
Bought a t7 thinking I was going to off-road with it, sold it a month later. It's very top heavy, feels heavier than an africa twin dct even though it's much lighter. It lays completely flat when on it's side which makes it difficult to pick up. It's great for gravel roads but you need to be an advanced rider to make it off road.
I currently ride a WR450 and CBR1000rr fireblade. I'm looking to get rid of both as I've ridden the fireblade for 95,000 km and I just really don't like the WR. Looking at videos like this where the tenere is $10,000 US kills me as in australia it's $20,000. That makes it almost cheaper to buy from america and ship it out. I'm really wanting a Tenere as I do a heap of highway trips (600 km a week) but still want to go on mini adventures. So thanks for the insight. I was looking a t the Africa twin but I think the Tenere might be the go.
Interesting that the new 300 rally is taller than the Tenere.
In 2020 when i was looking to get back onto a bike after a 37 year lay-off my dream was the Tenere. As soon as there was one in the nearest Yamaha dealer I was up there to sit on it and that’s where the dream bubble was burst, at 5’6” I could barely touch the tips of my toes, ballerina style on the ground.
After the disappointment I was looking for another option and the CRF 250 rally was on a deal so brought one over the phone while working in Holland, which was then delivered when back in the UK at the start of covid, it was tall but there was enough sag for me to get the balls of my feet down.
After running it in, i took it back out to Holland and loved going out on it at the weekends, well i did for a month because it was stolen.
So now I looked for a replacement, after a 6 hour ride on the CRF to Holland I soon realised that the seat was not ideal for long distance, so I ended up buying a Triumph Tiger900 Rally Pro (I know I could have picked a shorter version GT or even the GT low but hey, you have seen how cool the Rally Pro looks right!!
So that was October 2020 and I took it out into Europe where I was working making 800+ mile journeys on numerous occasions. The Rally Pro is ideal for mile crunching and if you have the skill set it is a demon off road too (I don’t have the skill set)
Most of my time was spent on the road 99.9%, so on 1st March I pick up a new bike, one that I can flat foot, a Triumph Speedmaster Chrome edition.
I know its not adventure, but i hardly went off road when i had one.
I will just have to get myself a small capacity dual sport too, to go off road with.
Oh and I am sixty so hey I need to be careful yeah!
All bikes are great and hey who knows I may get some knobbly tyres on the speedmaster yet.
6'2" and 230lbs,,,only one choice for me,,,picked it up 3 weeks ago 👍💝
How do you like it so far?
Don’t talk in cryptic. What was your choice
@@MotorcyclesOffroad ,,love it, one of those bikes you have to look back at as you walk away from. The one you make excuses to take “just one more quick ride “
That's exactly what I'm talking about I had a 21 Africa twin adventure sport & that bike was sketchier than shit riding it off-road!! I traded it in no problem for my 250 rally & haven't looked back since, yeah I gave up 🛣️ riding but gained a bike that I can go off-road comfortably with
Haha on a big bike it can be scary!
I did watch your vid to the end. You forgot to mention the terrible suspension on the Honda . Apart from that, a great video well worth watching. 😊
Yeah, I've ridden the T7 and I have a 300L. WIth a rear shock the 300L can be fun offroad. The T7 just feels way too heavy for anything more than some gravel road.
Great test on a couple of great bikes. Now if you could add the latest wr450f to the test... 😃😃😃😃😃
That would be great! I want to get a WR450f and turn it into a adv/rally bike like the CRF300Rally.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad look forward to that. 😆
I want both ♥
They are both pretty great.
Hey, I noticed you have a Puig windscreen on the T7, and that's what I went with too. How does the Honda's stock windscreen compare? Is it more like Puig, or like stock T7's?
More road travels T7, more off-road travels 300LR.
To a point, I also think experience has something to do with it as well.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad most of the fun places we ride, you’re just not gonna take an adv bike. Ya just ain’t lol. The rally however, would be doable. Power isn’t everything.
as for the styling, I actually the offset lights on the Honda - they look kinda goofy but fun while these on Tenere are not that "eye catching"
very informative. as I break my L16 vertebra Trying to put on a GS1250. honda 300 will make it. Husky 701 is way too expensive to run with valve check
If I ever trade/sell my WR250R I might actually just get the 300-Rally and remove/sell the fenders, since it looks so good without them.
I actually really like the factory headlight on the honda!!
Wa, wa, wa! My TTR 250 and WR 250F are better than…😊.
One of the big reasons I continue to watch your channel is that teaser pan of that line of bikes and quads. I had thought you were going to share some content and comparison about all of those.
Do you still get full YT credit for me watching and skipping through your vids a 2.0? Remember you are talking to a TTR 250 guy here. I’m not used to the slow pace of the newer bikes and content. 😉
Keep up the good work! I do enjoy the content. Thank you!
😂😂😂 Awesome comment Nathan! Haha yeah if you watch at 2.0 it still counts. I never had a TTR250 myself I had the TTR225 and a WR250r and thanks for watching and leaving a comment to make me laugh.
T7 and KLX300 best combo
Honda 750 transalp is up and shining
Repeat the comparison please
I have not got a chance to ride that one yet, maybe one day. I did just pick up a DR650.
How’s the DR compare?
Oil cgange interval on the Honda is 4,000 mikes. Filter change (i.e. oil and filter) is 8,000 mikes.
Negative sir. Manual says 8,000miles on oil 16,000miles on filter.
Hey... I have a blue Tenere (for the same reasons) and a Doberman too!
Awesome man, Great minds think alike.
I wish to buy both of them..but for more tehnical Balkan off road TET i will buy 300l rally and make some suspension mods
That would be awesome 👌
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Ohlins ..i'm 110kg so i belive that one from 110 to 130kg should be ok, dna filter , new handbars ..
Cant find the headlight youre looking to upgrade to. Do you have a link for it?
Hey andrew, im a big fan and have a 300l for just over a year, I was wondering if in this video did you ride in assunpink wildlife reserve off 571 in roosevelt nj?
Yes I believe I did, I have it a part of my trans NJ trail.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad I moved from nj to myrtle beach sc and i haven't been on that road in almost 20yrs, I was able picked it out from the color of the sand and grass, what a beautiful place. Thank you for confirming that. born and raised in nj i watch all your stuff to the end so i can see where you go. your doing a great job, keep up the good work. I was trying to get a rally but now i think ill put the bigger tank on the 300l cause trying to get a rally now is almost impossible.
Many of my shots are from new Jersey. I also ride in PA a lot as well, glad you enjoy the content.
What bike would you take on the Full Trans American trail? Planning a solo trip next year. Including this bike or others, including KTM 890,690. Thankyou in advance.(FJR Last Bike).
If I was doing a long trail I would take the 300L rally.
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I'm now wondering whether I should buy a CRF300 Rally or GASGAS ES700, KTM 690 Enduro R or 701? All of which weigh the same as the Honda but have the power of the Yamaha! Any thoughts? Thanks for a great review it certainly helped me to get this far.
So I guess you are saying price is not an issue? What do you plan to do with the bike?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Price does come into it but it's not my main criteria. I have a large 200kg+ adventure bike which I plan on keeping. However, I do want to do more off road (techy single track and rock gardens) which due to my skill level isn't suited to 200kg. My problem is that I have to do many tarmac miles to get to trails hence the larger displacement bikes (690 et.al) are more appealing. However, I actually wonder whether the Honda would be a better bike Off road due to its engine characteristics especially when going slow! I like slow tractoring progress in tricky conditions.The larger bikes have lots of torque but high in the revs which I don't think will suit my style and terrain ( I'm guessing).
Those rally towers are really cool, but surprisingly expensive.
I know, I was thinking the same.
Sorry mate the anti squat is just a story. The counter shaft is in that position because that’s how it was designed and manufactured prior to the T7. I love mine, makes the yz feel like a toy when I swap