Free-will and heaven

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @bemg1
    @bemg1 11 років тому

    hi trident343 ...i just rec'd ur chanl..you sir are an answer to my prayers..i am so looking frwd to talking with you...however i ust picked it up and since it;s 2am and im so tired....this is wonderful....thank you my dear...

  • @legionofdecency8390
    @legionofdecency8390 8 років тому

    I hope you don't find that atheists can't find this argument convincing. It's convoluted and ad-hoc reasoning. If it doesn't make sense, then it is god's fault for giving us a convoluted theology. If he was perfect he would know that better than anybody.

  • @SalvationByGrace
    @SalvationByGrace 11 років тому

    ...cont...But it really depends on how you view "Irresistible". To me I think of it in the way that Calvinist describe it as NOT POSSIBLE TO RESIST which violates free-will to me. If it is not at least possible to resist then to me free-will is violated.
    But if by "Irresistible" you mean POSSIBLE TO RESIST but all will choose not to resist then I would agree with describing it that way.

  • @SalvationByGrace
    @SalvationByGrace 11 років тому

    Good video Tim!
    I agree and do believe their will be free-will in heaven but the only part of us that will go to heaven is our spirit that is born again of God. Our old flesh that sinned will be left behind. The spirit part of us that goes to heaven cannot sin.
    The only thing that I disagree with in this video is that the grace in heaven will be irresistible. To me "Free-Will" and "Irresistible Grace" cannot co-exist because to me they oppose each other. cont...

  • @SalvationByGrace
    @SalvationByGrace 11 років тому

    I think in heaven it will be at least technically possible for us to sin but because of who we will be then with Jesus' righteousness, and no unrighteousness in us at all, we never will.

  • @trident343
    @trident343  11 років тому

    @mitchellbilankov The myopia of the Calvinist is to look at things strictly as cause and effect rather than in practical terms of volition and compulsion.That's what I was trying to explain in this video. Nothing I said conflicts with your calvy beliefs except I used the term "free-will.