He does it again. Ky round start FS into Wild Assualt was and still is nasty. Plus the corner carry was insane. Plus the meterless HKD it gave on wall break was insane.
love the discussion!! although wouldve loved a segment on how to fix it or even be something completely different. Maybe something along the lines of a more passive blazblue overdrive mechanic where people get a character-specific passive buff draining their burst, but is impactful enough to risk use over burst.
in a way yes, but it’s function in the game still annoys people as there’s some problems with it like how fast burst meter comes back, which removes a lot of the actual risk of using 50% burst gauge. if they do a couple of more changes, it won’t be nearly as hated and wouldn’t be as bad as people believe.
A new player here, I think WA is an interesting tool, I really use it and I don't see it like the main reason that ruined the meta. I still believe that the only thing that fucked up everything is Arcsys not doing his job balancing/patching the characters like godlewis, Ram, Slayer, nagoruyuki, johnny, millia, zato, pot.
the problem with wild assault is that characters don't benefit from it equally. I like the mechanic, but I say testament and bedman, so it might as well not be there...
I think Wild Assault is a decent _idea._ I understand ASW's rationale in putting it into the game. Without WA you are sitting on Burst until you use it or it refills completely. You can also take Burst away from your opponent with it. There's also how different characters benefit differently from Burst, e.g. Burst is amazing for Asuka, Sol doesn't need the resource as much because he has a meterless reversal, et c. On that line i can understand introducing different variants of WA, but on various levels it's a bad idea to introduce variants into something that's intended to be universal. You can see it in Strive where Red WA is clearly the best one, whereas White and Blue are inconsistent in their effects. White specifically has been changed entirely because of a single character, which is... Yeah. I think at this point WWA should just be removed from the game; not only does it make no sense to have a variant to a universal mechanic for 10% of the cast, it was a horrible idea to do that in order to balance characters. None of them need it anymore so in the end, using it to do that didn't even work. And frankly? WWA is completely unfun, and it feels unfair that those characters just get reversals from universal mechanics while others don't (all of 3 of them have high health and reversal supers too like, c'mon).
I dont think this is a hot take, but I *am* glad they added it. Arcsys needed to shake up Guilty Gear with an update to their game thats been out for years. It was cool, it was fun, but it made the game worse. At least we and they know going forward Guilty Gear doesnt need a system mechanic like this.
Honestly, I wonder how wild assault would be different if it cost tension instead of burst. A big problem is the ability to snowball off of round start counterhit for OWA characters.
i go on twitter: i see a clip of dany toding from an owa cS shimmy with sol i go on youtube: this is the first video in my recommended page was this intentional?
Glad someone made this vid bc WA is when I dropped this game, I was already sour on the game balance then it just categorically went in the wrong direction and I stopped waiting/hoping for anything better
3 out of 4 of your last videos have just been video essays bitching about the game. This channel used to put way more effort into actually talking to character specialists patch-by-patch and giving them a voice to be heard, and now all it is is tryna play the YT game by stirring up clicks with overdone "why guilty players hate X" videos and liking every comment without engaging in any actual discussion -- or the few times you do, like in the HC video, you're belittling the shit out of anybody that doesn't share your opinion. I understand the YT grind but holy shit brother i've already unsubbed and don't be shocked if others follow.
I cant please everyone. I will try to respond to comments more often but I do read all comments. A lot of comments have the same msg so if I respond to one then I figured that's me universally answering everything. There is a time where I will run out of characters to post about or too long of a grace period in between patches. The goal is to improve my content and get to the point where people will watch my videos for just me. If I stay in one area for too long it gets warned out and people will start to think I'm repetitive. I'm sorry if you don't like the change in direction. Ofc Character videos are still coming but I to grow I need to attract different audiences as well. Its not a matter of upping clicks or money. I just love discussion and want to hear everyone's opinions regardless of the topic in GGST. Sorry you feel this way and hope to see u in another YT comment section on a future vid.
@@DomiWurld To be clear, I'm not sayin you should be responding to more comments; there's not enough time in the world for all that. At the end of the day, you're giving people a place to come and discuss the game and you do good work. I understand your motivations and totally respect what you're doing on the channel -- just wanted to express my concerns from what it looked like on my feed. Also some other dude in the comments is trying to copypasta me and idk who that guy is. I'm not tryna hate, just wanted to talk. Appreciate you a lot brother, good luck good luck o7
Personally, I like the addition of WA than not. Definitely not going to deny the problems it initially had, and while I think it's improved since then, it still needs a few more tweaks.
I feel like they added it to copy street fighter 6s drive rush or impact. I definitely lost interest when they added wild assault. Strive did not need this to stay intetesting or fun.
@@pancakes7483 Blitz is a defensive mechanic, like a parry. Even though the can be used to drain the opponent's burst a bit, that almost only sees use in stun combos to finish off the round. It CAN be used in combos, but it's very situational and different to wild assault. I can see why you would think it's based on it just by looking at the animation, but they're not the same.
All the balance issues even aside, this mechanic is straight up boring as hell as it streamlined the already streamlined Strive cast even more. It's annoying to fight against and also boring to see when spectating. Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of Strive since even 2019, it's this mechanic that made me finally leave the game behind for good.
WHOAx3! that title is super triggering. had strive not added WA this game would be dead. the meter economy was atrocious the first 3 years. You had stripped gatlings and airdash startup, so the only way you were doing any combos/pressuring/mixing up was with tension(unless you were Sol, Nago, HC,or Leo). the problem was everything cost 50% and you were basically doing a whole lot of stray hits until you got that 50%. this made the using the meter creatively very boring, cuz if you spent it and didnt break the wall you were stuck having to stray hit stalling for time until you got another 50%.(i like not having to spend tension to do cool combos, thats proly why the later characters had another resource before WA was added I.E.,goldlewis, nago, jack-o,Sin, A.B.A,HC, etc. ) it reminds me of the meta of fighterz where at a high level players would just jump 30 times back and forth while calling assist and occasionally z dashing. my only criticism of wild assault is the fact theres 3 versions. it'd be better if the entire cast all had 1 type, either everyone gets blue or everyone gets orange but you overhaul the entire game around it because you cant just Do It without "certain characters" breaking the game. HC would be a tumor with Orange WA
@@doin10hitcombos I like how it looks, everything else is a crapshoot of "Why is the game like this". its like an amazing pizza but all the toppings are spoiled.
Most people won't admit it, but the start of season 3 was probably the most balanced the game has ever been. Prior to that you had like 80% of major wins going to three different characters (largely due to the meter economy issues you mention), and it was also before they started adding/turbobuffing stupid season 3 dlc characters.
@@culturemanoftheages most balanced because every character could almost just win off the first interaction. is that the kind of balance you really want?
3 out of 4 of your last videos have just been video essays bitching about the game. This channel used to put way more effort into actually talking to character specialists patch-by-patch and giving them a voice to be heard, and now all it is is tryna play the YT game by stirring up clicks with overdone "why guilty players hate X" videos and liking every comment without engaging in any actual discussion -- or the few times you do, like in the HC video, you're belittling the shit out of anybody that doesn't share your opinion. I understand the YT grind but holy shit brother i've already unsubbed and don't be shocked if others follow.
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You'd use 50 burst and get it back on positive bonus. Crazy. Makes it feel like there isnt much of a penalty when it's used in that manner.
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Ky round start FS into Wild Assualt was and still is nasty.
Plus the corner carry was insane. Plus the meterless HKD it gave on wall break was insane.
WA was overpowered but now...
I mean it is a mechanic that costs meter I have no hard feelings
WA doing HKD on wall break with the positive bonus state in Season 3 were truly dark times wew
love the discussion!! although wouldve loved a segment on how to fix it or even be something completely different. Maybe something along the lines of a more passive blazblue overdrive mechanic where people get a character-specific passive buff draining their burst, but is impactful enough to risk use over burst.
Hasn't the mechanic been nerfed to the point that it's not hated anymore?
in a way yes, but it’s function in the game still annoys people as there’s some problems with it like how fast burst meter comes back, which removes a lot of the actual risk of using 50% burst gauge. if they do a couple of more changes, it won’t be nearly as hated and wouldn’t be as bad as people believe.
No but it’s definitely been nerfed
A new player here, I think WA is an interesting tool, I really use it and I don't see it like the main reason that ruined the meta. I still believe that the only thing that fucked up everything is Arcsys not doing his job balancing/patching the characters like godlewis, Ram, Slayer, nagoruyuki, johnny, millia, zato, pot.
Good ol Arc Sys going upping the offence
You actually remembered Bridget's blue WA for once... amazing... instant like to your vid 🎉
the problem with wild assault is that characters don't benefit from it equally. I like the mechanic, but I say testament and bedman, so it might as well not be there...
I think Wild Assault is a decent _idea._
I understand ASW's rationale in putting it into the game. Without WA you are sitting on Burst until you use it or it refills completely. You can also take Burst away from your opponent with it. There's also how different characters benefit differently from Burst, e.g. Burst is amazing for Asuka, Sol doesn't need the resource as much because he has a meterless reversal, et c.
On that line i can understand introducing different variants of WA, but on various levels it's a bad idea to introduce variants into something that's intended to be universal. You can see it in Strive where Red WA is clearly the best one, whereas White and Blue are inconsistent in their effects.
White specifically has been changed entirely because of a single character, which is... Yeah.
I think at this point WWA should just be removed from the game; not only does it make no sense to have a variant to a universal mechanic for 10% of the cast, it was a horrible idea to do that in order to balance characters. None of them need it anymore so in the end, using it to do that didn't even work.
And frankly? WWA is completely unfun, and it feels unfair that those characters just get reversals from universal mechanics while others don't (all of 3 of them have high health and reversal supers too like, c'mon).
No. Keep WWA, but only Bedman can have it, and it’s now plus on block again 👀
@@MagmaSpacer At that point just make his beyblade invuln. 😭
@@voidroom4364 Heheheh. Do both 😈
I dont think this is a hot take, but I *am* glad they added it. Arcsys needed to shake up Guilty Gear with an update to their game thats been out for years. It was cool, it was fun, but it made the game worse. At least we and they know going forward Guilty Gear doesnt need a system mechanic like this.
Honestly, I wonder how wild assault would be different if it cost tension instead of burst. A big problem is the ability to snowball off of round start counterhit for OWA characters.
Way too strong
i go on twitter: i see a clip of dany toding from an owa cS shimmy with sol
i go on youtube: this is the first video in my recommended page
was this intentional?
idgaf that GL white wild assault was fn wild to come back to after taking a break from strive 😂
Glad someone made this vid bc WA is when I dropped this game, I was already sour on the game balance then it just categorically went in the wrong direction and I stopped waiting/hoping for anything better
Haha yea I been wanting to talk about it for awhile now. Yea alot of people are unhappy with it
People complained and wanted 25 meter options, but then when they basically got one they complained anyways. The people are hilarious. XD
3 out of 4 of your last videos have just been video essays bitching about the game. This channel used to put way more effort into actually talking to character specialists patch-by-patch and giving them a voice to be heard, and now all it is is tryna play the YT game by stirring up clicks with overdone "why guilty players hate X" videos and liking every comment without engaging in any actual discussion -- or the few times you do, like in the HC video, you're belittling the shit out of anybody that doesn't share your opinion. I understand the YT grind but holy shit brother i've already unsubbed and don't be shocked if others follow.
I cant please everyone. I will try to respond to comments more often but I do read all comments. A lot of comments have the same msg so if I respond to one then I figured that's me universally answering everything. There is a time where I will run out of characters to post about or too long of a grace period in between patches. The goal is to improve my content and get to the point where people will watch my videos for just me. If I stay in one area for too long it gets warned out and people will start to think I'm repetitive. I'm sorry if you don't like the change in direction. Ofc Character videos are still coming but I to grow I need to attract different audiences as well. Its not a matter of upping clicks or money. I just love discussion and want to hear everyone's opinions regardless of the topic in GGST. Sorry you feel this way and hope to see u in another YT comment section on a future vid.
@@DomiWurld To be clear, I'm not sayin you should be responding to more comments; there's not enough time in the world for all that. At the end of the day, you're giving people a place to come and discuss the game and you do good work. I understand your motivations and totally respect what you're doing on the channel -- just wanted to express my concerns from what it looked like on my feed. Also some other dude in the comments is trying to copypasta me and idk who that guy is. I'm not tryna hate, just wanted to talk. Appreciate you a lot brother, good luck good luck o7
Ayyy yeo don't listen to this guy this game has issues that need to be talked about i enjoy this content do whatever u want bro @@DomiWurld
@@taejoonpark9613 much love
Personally, I like the addition of WA than not. Definitely not going to deny the problems it initially had, and while I think it's improved since then, it still needs a few more tweaks.
Everyone hates wild assault, drive rush, heat and kameos. Let’s be honest, the FGC hates fighting games lol
I feel like they added it to copy street fighter 6s drive rush or impact. I definitely lost interest when they added wild assault. Strive did not need this to stay intetesting or fun.
This isn't really a copy to sf since WA is basically an old mechanic in xrd but just better in strive now. Hell, the animations are the same
@@pancakes7483 this shit is not blitz, what??
@@pancakes7483 Don't talk about games you don't know...
@@pancakes7483 Blitz is a defensive mechanic, like a parry. Even though the can be used to drain the opponent's burst a bit, that almost only sees use in stun combos to finish off the round. It CAN be used in combos, but it's very situational and different to wild assault. I can see why you would think it's based on it just by looking at the animation, but they're not the same.
@@webo4074So if you could parry with Wild assault wouldn’t it then be the same? Drains burst, same animations, can be used in combos.
i like it :(
Some people do but it seems the majority dont. What do u like about it?
All the balance issues even aside, this mechanic is straight up boring as hell as it streamlined the already streamlined Strive cast even more. It's annoying to fight against and also boring to see when spectating.
Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of Strive since even 2019, it's this mechanic that made me finally leave the game behind for good.
WHOAx3! that title is super triggering. had strive not added WA this game would be dead. the meter economy was atrocious the first 3 years. You had stripped gatlings and airdash startup, so the only way you were doing any combos/pressuring/mixing up was with tension(unless you were Sol, Nago, HC,or Leo). the problem was everything cost 50% and you were basically doing a whole lot of stray hits until you got that 50%. this made the using the meter creatively very boring, cuz if you spent it and didnt break the wall you were stuck having to stray hit stalling for time until you got another 50%.(i like not having to spend tension to do cool combos, thats proly why the later characters had another resource before WA was added I.E.,goldlewis, nago, jack-o,Sin, A.B.A,HC, etc. )
it reminds me of the meta of fighterz where at a high level players would just jump 30 times back and forth while calling assist and occasionally z dashing.
my only criticism of wild assault is the fact theres 3 versions. it'd be better if the entire cast all had 1 type, either everyone gets blue or everyone gets orange but you overhaul the entire game around it because you cant just Do It without "certain characters" breaking the game. HC would be a tumor with Orange WA
Do you like Strive?
@@doin10hitcombos I like how it looks, everything else is a crapshoot of "Why is the game like this". its like an amazing pizza but all the toppings are spoiled.
Most people won't admit it, but the start of season 3 was probably the most balanced the game has ever been. Prior to that you had like 80% of major wins going to three different characters (largely due to the meter economy issues you mention), and it was also before they started adding/turbobuffing stupid season 3 dlc characters.
@@culturemanoftheages most balanced because every character could almost just win off the first interaction. is that the kind of balance you really want?
@@henryhenjum6030 I mean it's not optimal sure, but it's better than only Leo/Nago/HC being able to do it which was the first few seasons of the game.
drive rush plus drive impact in one hahaha ahh mechanic. Trash to the fullest Xtent.
2D BWA my beloved 🫶
3 out of 4 of your last videos have just been video essays bitching about the game. This channel used to put way more effort into actually talking to character specialists patch-by-patch and giving them a voice to be heard, and now all it is is tryna play the YT game by stirring up clicks with overdone "why guilty players hate X" videos and liking every comment without engaging in any actual discussion -- or the few times you do, like in the HC video, you're belittling the shit out of anybody that doesn't share your opinion. I understand the YT grind but holy shit brother i've already unsubbed and don't be shocked if others follow.
The irony that he liked this comment too 😭