I Know My Aunt's Name! Mystery Solving With Ancestry DNA

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  • @Libbathegreat
    @Libbathegreat 3 роки тому +43

    Very sad story about your great aunt. Back then, children often died young and people learned to move on from it quickly. But what happened to Ethel was different. Clearly, she died by violence, and likely at the hands of someone she knew, loved and trusted.
    Don't let anyone in your family discourage you from your search. It may seem like a long time ago, but traumatic events like this leave marks that get carried down for generations. Like any trauma, it will only be resolved when you shine the light of truth and acknowledgement on it. Most importantly, it's your history and you deserve to learn all you can, and little Ethel deserves to be remembered. Much love!

    • @amandajohnson-williams7718
      @amandajohnson-williams7718 2 роки тому +7

      In all fairness its possible Ethel did not die violently from the hands of someone she knew and trusted.. this could have been an accident that occurred whilst the three young children were left home alone. The parents could have returned to find this terrible thing. It may explain why she was buried literally within the footprint of the home, for the family to feel she was still with them. I wonder whether the idea that Ethel was missing was a cover up the family decided to assume to alleviate the scandal, shame and guilt the parents would have felt. Little Ethel could have easily fallen outside the house looking for her father, a bad head injury or similar and sadly passed. Her mother may have lost her mind with grief hence she looked around for Ethal until the day she died. it's a tremendously sad event, but it could have been accidental rather than something sinister. Bless little Ethel 🙏🙏🙏

    • @barbeeska
      @barbeeska 2 роки тому +2

      @@amandajohnson-williams7718 kids were dying all the time in accidents, I don't think it carried the shame for the parents it would now

  • @dennaspradlin9777
    @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if when he went to sale cattle if she the little missing girl got in the horse buggie as he was saying goodbye to his wife the little girl went into the horse buggie and left with her father lots of 2 year olds want to go with their father * so if he traveled to Chicago she probably went in the horse buggie hid behind some things he packed under a tarp* it would be interesting how he packed when he went to town * she hid so he wouldn't see her & got in the horse buggie* she got out either to go look for him or to wait to hear him coming * instead of him saying something he was quiet got in his horse buggie left ,she may had fell asleep and woke up in a lost land * and he acidently left without her * maybe* she could had got in the horse buggie anytime * & hid that's why the trackers couldn't find her * feet prints* she left in the buggie * I think that what they called them horse buggies * this is one great story you wrote * i was thinking why everyone could only track her there to the house & the trail disappeared * then the body made me think well whose body was it they found buried on their property and why would someone bury someone so close to their property by the barn * then when we all thought it was Ethel buried by the barn* then her father saw her with a black man * I was also thinking as she wondered around a woman could had found her & decided to never give her back & knew she was missing & kept her * ethel helped the abducting woman around the house kept the abductor company * local school pictures of all the schools towns children maybe who took her sent her to school* I remember when I was 2 years old lots of people would leave * I had agrandmother who adored me talked to me all the time *& I remember when I was 2 when I was 3 I went to the park all the way by myself explained to my grandmother asked her if I could she said if you return right back and I did return right back * some may say I was to young I used all the park rides and went home my adopted grandmother said play on the park rides and return home I did just that I was 3 * I understood everything when I was young I remember people talking at 1at 2 & 3 & I understood when someone was going I couldn't talk yet I understood * if someone said they had to go I was sad I didn't want them to go * I wanted to say visit is soon * I couldn't * I would take their hand I would look sad * I wanted to say I was lonely * I wanted to say I would miss them * I just didn't know how to many words to sad * I couldn't find the words I knew the words it was getting the words out * now as you can see I talk all the time lol! Haaaaaa if you show a 2 year old nod your head yes or no your head no they understand * yes nod your head no * nod head side to side then ask do you like milk * yes nod no nod * do you like apples * they will reply with a head nod of yes or no * a 1 year old can too*

    • @saffronhammer7714
      @saffronhammer7714 2 роки тому +1

      The father would have taken the train to Chicago. He didn’t go all the way in a horse and wagon.

  • @elissshapingup
    @elissshapingup 3 роки тому +15

    Somehow today I came across the DNA videos you posted. I went through and watched everything I could find on the mystery of your great aunt. I'm so glad you were able to discover her name. What occurred to me in the first video you talked about her is that perhaps her mother was suffering from postpartum depression. Maybe she never really recovered from it and the trauma from losing Ethel. Women have done things far out of character while suffering from postpartum depression. Anyway, just something that occurred to me. I just subscribed, you have many topics besides this that I'm interested in and I look forward to watching some of your other videos!

  • @pecosriverstyle
    @pecosriverstyle 3 роки тому +13

    Your aunt may be right.
    The articles that the body was found were dated June 15th. There is an article dated June 17th in The Black Hills Union and Western Stock Review that states, "A report was circulated this week to the effect that the little Harrington girl had been found near the house where some one guilty of the murder had buried her. This report like many others proved to be entirely without foundation. The child is yet missing and the father offers $1000 reward for information leading to her recovery dead or alive".
    Also, in the same paper: "The report of James J. Harrington having found trace of his lost child is false. We have investigated the matter and have found out that it is as much a mystery as ever".
    Oddly, there were articles shortly after she went missing that said she was found in a mudhole, followed by articles refuting them also. Pretty sure the Chicago story is false also. That story originated in Piedmont SD.

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому +2

      Weird that those articles didn’t come up for me, I will have to go back and look for those specifically. Thank you.

    • @pecosriverstyle
      @pecosriverstyle 3 роки тому +2

      @@BlackHillsMommy I have subscriptions to multiple news services.

    • @Corvetjoe1
      @Corvetjoe1 Рік тому +4

      Sorry about this incident. It always hurts when something that heinous happens to a young child. I don’t want to insinuate about something that’s not my business and I have no intention whatsoever to insult you or anyone in your family.
      I wanted to say Chicago has always been a busy city with lots of people and because of this any major news would be widespread disseminated especially during that period of time, if it involved a black man with a small Caucasian child.
      Having been a cop in NW Wyoming for more than ten years, and knowing how much drive time and distance occurs between towns like Buffalo or Sundance and the Spearfish, Sturgis, Rapid area I would think not many black men came through the area (especially alone) and also, travel in general wouldn’t have been the best. Although the culprit could have been a traveler, it wouldn’t have been likely unless there were eyewitness accounts of that person in the area of the house and a black person would have certainly stood out then as they do today.
      Unfortunately, there have been numerous (too many to count) accounts of a black suspect in crime coverups (especially in areas with low numbers of black citizens) from about the late 1800s through today. Also, an adult who was unknown to the family would have likely taken the child away from the house and not returned to bury her under the house. Lastly, a shallow grave is usually due to the suspects fears of getting caught and a 14 your old and up could hastily dig such a spot. Just my thoughts. I don’t know what happened and I’m sorry it did. You have a great channel and I appreciate your sharing of such a tragic event.

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 3 роки тому +15

    Perhaps, if your great grandmother had a breakdown, he may have never told her what happened.

  • @dennaspradlin9777
    @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +11

    Dont listen to peoples grumpiness your a good researcher* I love hearing the stories not for meanness I am having such a difficult time researching helps me to know about my searching and to solve you look at everything great with the negative stuff*

  • @peachmelba9333
    @peachmelba9333 3 роки тому +8

    Could your ancestor went East, identified Ethel , was bringing her home, she died , he buried her himself and took the secret to his grave. Imagining b e looking, as a mother every day, never finding her and Ethel's body buried close by. Makes me feel, if it happened to Me, my nerves would " breakdown". May Our God grant Ethel peace, may Her soul be running free in Heaven.

  • @suemount6042
    @suemount6042 3 роки тому +8

    So glad I’ve just found this follow up brilliant news you found her name. It’s such an interesting story

  • @alessia0064
    @alessia0064 3 роки тому +6

    Hi, your DNA Video #1 popped up in recommended for me, I have now watched all 3, so interesting. New sub from England 🙂👍.

  • @ulrikaa1581
    @ulrikaa1581 3 роки тому +11

    Someone should do a movie about the mystery of Little Ethel.

    • @sgjoni
      @sgjoni 3 роки тому +1

      Start with a novel ;-)

  • @teamarmstrong4
    @teamarmstrong4 Рік тому +2

    I am interested in hearing more about your Great Aunts mystery. What a sad story! Can you please move all the videos that talk about her mystery into its own playlist? Or post all the links in the descriptions? Rename as Part 1, part 2, etc anything would help. I am having trouble piecing them all together from the many videos you have in your site. Thank you.

  • @noelbecker7002
    @noelbecker7002 2 роки тому +2

    When your grandfather/great grandfather went to Chicago did he interview the man in the presence of the police? If so there may have been a written record of the event. I know is was a VERY long time ago, but the record might still exist in a file somewhere or a box in a basement. Maybe worth inquiring?

  • @deecal1021
    @deecal1021 2 роки тому +2

    Why do people get mad over something they have no control over? The history of your family cannot be changed whether they like it or not. What happened over a hundred years ago, should have no impact on how your family live their lives today.

  • @michelleforbes7823
    @michelleforbes7823 3 роки тому +4

    What a fascinating family story!!! I'm happy to find out you also foster. I have two grandchildren who came to the family through foster!

  • @andreaweniger5685
    @andreaweniger5685 3 роки тому +4

    That exciting new info! So bittersweet. I know if the information is out there to be found, you will indeed find it! 😘

  • @connieolson8497
    @connieolson8497 3 роки тому +4

    I have watched your two previous videos regarding Ancestry. I know about opening a can of worms. I kept drifting off while watching, my fault not yours. Three questions. 1. How long did it take you to find out the Mayflower connection and was it thru DNA test and persons listed from DNA people and centimorgams or family trees you located or you built?
    2. Tilley’s names?
    3. Not a question. I wish more people from overseas would do Ancestry to build a greater data base.
    Pretty interesting what you find out.

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому +1

      It took a few weeks, maybe a month to make the connection but I was only working on it in the evening when I could. I was able to build my tree and created a paper trail that led there, it was completely unexpected as it is not something that seemed to be common knowledge in that side of my family but the proof is undeniable and would make registering for the mayflower society pretty straight forward if anyone wanted to. It was Elizabeth Tilley and John Howland, they’re my 10th great grandparents.

    • @connieolson8497
      @connieolson8497 3 роки тому +1

      @@BlackHillsMommy I ran into some trees that were really not related because they were using what they knew or heard and not. Real DNA.results and people listed there. Not saying with your findings. Just mine findings. I do know a family that are in the Mayflower society. That’s why I asked about the names. I will mention you to them, so you might hear from them.
      I love how the percentages change when more people take the DNA test. I have 1-2% North American indigenous people. I thought that was great!

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому

      If I hadn’t made the connection through a solid paper trail I probably wouldn’t have believed it myself. The whole thing is fascinating to me, and I have so many more stories to unravel, at some point I have to quit procrastinating and find out more about the true line for my grandfather not that we know his true paternity and know very little about that side of the family but it’s a little more complicated because legally it all shows differently than the DNA does so Ancestry keeps showing a variety of things I have to sift through more.

  • @dianayount2122
    @dianayount2122 13 днів тому

    tragic. so very sad for the family.

  • @donafellows2313
    @donafellows2313 2 роки тому +1

    If her body was found under the house, where was she buried? Is there a gravestone?

  • @giseledeangelis8355
    @giseledeangelis8355 Рік тому

    I question not where Ethel was but who killed her. It may come out later on in your research. Very interesting though. Thank you for sharing.

  • @cal8354
    @cal8354 Рік тому

    Yeah, some people in my family got upset when I proved the Native American ancestor we were told about all of our lives did not exist. While I was proving that one wrong, six more Native American stories popped up on other lines in the tree and I'm pretty sure that five of those are not true. People don't like their family stories messed with.

  • @Moolarkey
    @Moolarkey Рік тому

    Even if she was found in Chicago, I didn't get the understanding that she was dead when found with that man so if she was found alive with him... when/how/where did she die - if it was your great aunt?

  • @TheMrKristens
    @TheMrKristens 2 роки тому +1

    It's weird how we romanticize our ancestors. But I also will not necessarily condemn them. I didn't live then. I didn't grow up believing what they believed. I am sure our ancestors in the future will believe we are crude and ignorant. History should not be taken out of context or time. When we do that, we are not learning from it. It's an absolute miracle people survived, married, survived, etc until we are here. It still astounds me how many things had to go right to have one person here today. Thousands of people had to survive a single generation to get one person here today. 🤯🤯🤯 It is mind-boggling. I am happy you have her name. She deserves to have a name. 💗💗💗 No matter what happened to her, she had a name, she lived --no matter how short a life, and she will be remembered by another 2 generations of family. 💗💗💗

  • @scottjohnson9225
    @scottjohnson9225 2 роки тому +1

    Many people don’t realize how the Dakota’s and Montana was back in the early 1900s. In the more “civilized” areas of the country, the Dakotas would be like the 1880s or 1890s. I remember the stories told to me years ago by my family living in N. Dak and S. Dak. My wife won’t touch N. Dak cause of the winters and she wants a neighbor closer than a half mile. Back in the 1910s and 1920s, there were bands of migrants (not settlers or people looking to park) traveling the tri state areas. These were nomads with not so good intent. This trend started around 1898 to 1903. These were nomads chased away from the higher populated areas because of crimes they committed. Running from the law. No better place to hide.

  • @joannahimes-murphy6897
    @joannahimes-murphy6897 2 роки тому +2

    I just love this! Not because of the tragedy of course, but I love that you are such a great detective! This is so cool and so sad at the same time! Keep looking!

  • @DOLfirst
    @DOLfirst Рік тому

    Rest in peace baby Ethel Harrington 😔

  • @saffronhammer7714
    @saffronhammer7714 2 роки тому +1

    I suspect the father.

  • @tracistaples2004
    @tracistaples2004 Рік тому +1

    I have a feeling her throwback black genes were becoming evident...

  • @bridgettetullos842
    @bridgettetullos842 9 місяців тому

    You should write a book

  • @JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts
    @JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts Рік тому +1

    This additional piece of the puzzle is great. It's crazy how this answer opens up more questions. Thanks for sharing when you can.

  • @retrobebop61
    @retrobebop61 Рік тому

    Poor little Ethel🌸

  • @dennaspradlin9777
    @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +1

    You and I look alike black hills moma * my story is about me and it's going to cost $5000 to fix it nightmares * anyways I'm not all the nationalities you are * I dont have german or those others you mentioned*

  • @LadyAndTheBags
    @LadyAndTheBags 3 роки тому +8

    I just spent my Saturday afternoon binging all 3 of your videos. I’m a genealogy hobbyist. I always tell people they have to be prepared for ANYTHING if they do DNA testing. It is also not an instant or overnight process as we wish it were. It was over a year from your first video to this one! You mentioned your research has been upsetting to a few of your family. Well, maybe not upsetting as much as unsettling, but take comfort that this 2 year old ancestor is no longer lost to history or family lore! She had a name, and has a story and thanks to you, over 100 years later, her name and life are being shared, remembered and she is in heaven smiling at being found and remembered. Best wishes as you continue your research. It was fantastic spending my Saturday afternoon with you. 😉

  • @hfsaid
    @hfsaid 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating! Now you really have to look for her grave. Thanks for sharing.

  • @dennaspradlin9777
    @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +2

    Black hills momma it keeps saying I dont have enough space how are you able to talk like this for such a long time * I do a video yet it doesn't take a lot of minutes only short videos how do I take a video like yours and post it on ancestry area in you tube * i want to make a long video * can you let me know like 1. Do this 2 . Do that . 3 look for . When you find its step 4 * then step 5. If you cant that's ok * if you can thanks so much *

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому +1

      When I first started I was only allowed up to 15 minutes per video. I don’t remember if it was a certain number of uploads or subscribers that I had to get before UA-cam lifted that restriction and I could start posting more. I did also find that if I uploaded from a computer rather than my phone (what I used originally, now I use a camera and my computer again) that I was able to do longer videos sooner. I try to avoid long ones too often but sometimes they’re necessary.

    • @dennaspradlin9777
      @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +1

      @@BlackHillsMommy did you go on youtube for this video or somewhere else then post the video on youtube or tape your video on youtube & post it* I just cant get the idea I guess il figure it out one day * thanks for the reply*

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому +1

      For this one I recorded it with my canon camera, edited the video with iMovie on my laptop and then used UA-cam studio to upload it to my channel.

    • @dennaspradlin9777
      @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому

      @@BlackHillsMommy thanks so much * I left another mesage about what I think hapened to ethel* if I got the name wrong apologies * my theory * for you * to help*

  • @twotwogardenst
    @twotwogardenst 3 роки тому +2

    Very happy for you 🙏👍

  • @violetbennett2407
    @violetbennett2407 2 роки тому

    I had two grandfathers also on the Mayflower, William Brewster and Isaac Allerton. Who are your connections. Thanks

  • @lanisioux2644
    @lanisioux2644 Рік тому

    I watched the 3 videos today and I'm looking for more! I just knew newspapers would help! Good work! If there are any updates, can you add the links? Thanks!

  • @arlysveen706
    @arlysveen706 2 роки тому

    Ok, it says this was a year ago. Are we going to get our annual update? I love genealogy and am fascinated by your story! I’m from California with relatives in the Midwest.

  • @dennaspradlin9777
    @dennaspradlin9777 3 роки тому +1

    They hired trackers*

  • @Rosethatwantstomove
    @Rosethatwantstomove 2 роки тому

    Ethel Harrington sounds familiar. I was adopted so things can get haywired. I live in all my life so it could be another woman. I'm 56 & the woman I call birth mom supposedly was 53 when I was born & she was well to do.

  • @archeewaters
    @archeewaters Рік тому

    incredible that you found her name. happy for you. what a ride. i hope your family finds peace

  • @amandajohnson-williams7718
    @amandajohnson-williams7718 2 роки тому

    Fascinating to hear more about Ethel 👍🌷🌷🌷🇬🇧

  • @katherinekelly5380
    @katherinekelly5380 2 роки тому

    This is so cool - i watched all three of your videos in the last 2 days! No suspense for me ! 😁there are some advantages to being late to the party.

  • @rwa3457986
    @rwa3457986 2 роки тому

    what a interesting story! You are making me want to do a DNA test now to research all my family history. Any updates to this story?

  • @marmyyetter5674
    @marmyyetter5674 2 роки тому

    I love hearing your updates about Ethel!

  • @saffronhammer7714
    @saffronhammer7714 2 роки тому

    The town in which she died has no birth and death records? Cemeteries?

  • @veulmet
    @veulmet 2 роки тому

    Just found the first video and then this one popped up...

  • @philipmcluskey6805
    @philipmcluskey6805 2 роки тому

    absolutely fascinating story

  • @melissatereseholland1706
    @melissatereseholland1706 3 роки тому +3

    Omg I so glad you able to get the information of her name Really is a mystery , your story is so sad , I still got so many questions on my research now you given me my mojo back to work more On my tree

  • @saffronhammer7714
    @saffronhammer7714 2 роки тому

    I suspect the father.

  • @tanasay
    @tanasay 2 роки тому

    This is so interesting! Thanks for sharing.

  • @maryfrump7937
    @maryfrump7937 2 роки тому

    You should be a detective!

  • @athena7042
    @athena7042 3 роки тому +5

    She updates the story of her great aunt who went missing at the age of 2, but was supposedly discovered later, dead and buried under the edge of the house, under sod.
    Roughly 6:00 Her great aunt's name was Ethel Harrington
    More newspaper articles were found that said that after the child's disappearance her father, a rancher, took a load of cattle on a cattle train to Chicago.
    10:00? While he was in Chicago the authorities there picked up a black man in with a little white girl. He said he had found the little girl wandering in the Black Hills and decided to bring her with. The missing child's father was supposedly going to look at them to ID the girl but it's not clear what happened.
    There may have been gypsies in the area where the little girl lived, which would have raised suspicion at the time. The above info is from newspaper articles. Black Hills Mommy relates a family story of the missing girl's mother walking the property every day of her life looking for her. This makes the Black Hills Mommy wonder if the article about the girl's body being discovered was true, or tabloid lies, or something else.
    Your videos are interesting but you could say what you need to say in 10% of the time.

  • @saffronhammer7714
    @saffronhammer7714 2 роки тому

    Death certificates are usually pretty easy to locate in the town hall / offices of the town in which the person died.

  • @mothershelper1981
    @mothershelper1981 3 роки тому

    Jeez, so many ads. Very disruptive. I had watch your other two videos and found them very interesting so when I saw the title of this one I thought I'll need, she found out more information! I wasn't expecting to have an ad every 2 minutes in order to learn what you found out

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому

      That is actually really upsetting to hear and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. UA-cam determines when and how many ads to put in, I am able to keep them from adding the non-skippable ads at least so people can skip if they choose but didn’t know they’d put so many in. I will have to see what can be done.

    • @jackielund84
      @jackielund84 3 роки тому

      @@BlackHillsMommy I was able to skip them all after a few seconds. The unskippable I believe were more between videos, at least that’s what I found.

    • @BlackHillsMommy
      @BlackHillsMommy  3 роки тому

      Those ones I have no control over, unfortunately. I will keep looking though to see if I have any day over the frequency.

  • @lisabotkin4858
    @lisabotkin4858 2 роки тому

    Stop apologizing for the terms used in the newspapers at that time. Don’t explain beyond “this was reported in the local papers”. Takes too much time away from your story.