Weapon Learns The Truth About Cortana Halo Infinite
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- Weapon Learns The Truth About Cortana
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Chief and Cortana felt like a romantic couple, while Chief and the Weapon feel like a father learning to love a daughter he didn't know he had.
_I agree_
That's actually a perfect description for them.
@@HL-777- not romantic love dude😑
@@HL-777- very easily, Chief's a human and Cortana like all smart A.I. are made from scans of a person's brain except she doesn't have the same inhibitors placed on her that other smart A.I. have, so she's basically a digital Halsey.
@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 lol somehow that almost makes it weirder.
I love the slow build up of her snapping her fingers. It's a thing Cortana did and she did it too, but there's never a need for an AI to do it at all. It was just a small tick of Cortana's that Weapon inherited.
Now her name is Cortana. Or maybe Coretana?
@@Igami_No_Io Is "Hope"
Echo might be her name
They wont ever change her name. It will be cortana. She will be the better cortana. See, she now knows the future of herself if unchecked. When you know something about your future you actively work to redirect course. If they change it, the true fanbase, the ones that were there in the beginning and followed the journey, grew together, read the literature...will riot.
They are from the same mold(halsey)
I love how Chief changes throughout this game, like he starts off denying the Weapon everything he gave Cortana so fiercely like he was afraid he wouldn’t be able to delete her when the time came and then he says “You’re her- if we’d never met” and it seems to click into place, like he’s realized that she is his second chance.
Until rampancy sets in again. Then it's time to blow up some more planets.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 not if she gains access to the domain
@@literalsarcasm1830 that right I feel was never meant for AIs of that construction even the monitors had limited access
@@pirojfmifhghek566 I imagine being tortured by the gravemind made it worse
@@Foxtrox7616 i dont want to think sickly but when the gravemind tortured cortana i was thinking she got "****ed" and chief got ntr'ed.....
“I don’t… but I want to.”
Probably my favorite line in the whole game.
That and "We all fail. We all make mistakes. It's what makes us human."
100% Facts
It definitely fits John's character given what he's had to go through because of what happened to Cortana, and how he knows Weapon could turn out like her, BUT he wants to believe in the good in Weapon.
@Merciless Freak cheesy but true
@Merciless Freak cheesy but awesome, when cheesy is awesome its just awesome. At the very least it was awesome to me, so it worked, the cheesiness worked 100%
I mean its a little obvious, but my GOD does the acting just completely carry this scene! From Atriox's barely contained rage, to the Weapon's absolute horror, to Chief's voice nearly cracking while talking about his guilt, to that chill inducing delivery of "I don't... but I want to." This is art right here!
It explains why Atriox seemed so dead-set on killing Chief at the beginning of the game. Cortana had taken something dear to him, so he (tried) to kill the one person she cared about more than anything in the Galaxy.
To be fair, I think it was always supposed to be clear to the player that The Weapon was a copy of Cortana. It's just the extent of Cortanas fall (blowing up planets) and the Weapons realisation that this scene is about
some people would say that voice-acting isn't really acting. Scenes like this say those people are wrong.
Idk why but its made so good that I knew seconds before chief said it, that he is exactly gonna say „i dont, but i want to“ gave me chills
I think it’s obvious on purpose. Chief doesn’t say much and doesn’t entirely trust the weapon. She’s almost like a kid? So I can definitely see something like this flying over head.
She is like a younger, more joyful, life-affirming and less bitter version of Cortana :D
Tbh that's why I'm not buying it. Yeah shes an AI but wtf. We dont get to reconnect with Cortana. Just this new girl shows up and says LOL I yeeted her but I am her. No thank you.
So like Cortana's teen daughter.
@@Michael-bh9ss I think we did just Cortana decided to let them move on from her and have them learn from her mistakes. and to be honest I feel like the weapon is one of the most innocent characters Halo has ever seen so far due to being "child-like" and I don't think we had a character as innocent as her. ever.
@@Michael-bh9ss tbh they ruined cortana when they had her kill over 1 hundred thousand people with the earth emp in halo 5. This is the only way forward. let alone showing her killing those 70 spartans. I would rather her die than her just be "redeemed"
She irritates the fuck out of me 😂
Seriously, Halsey is not exactly a ray of sunshine. Why are all her AI characters so Goddamn perky?
And I really don't need her constant fan-girling every time I free some marines, or nagging me to do the next campaign mission while I'm just trying to explore the map.
Other than that, though, she's fine. 😂
She tried to intimidate Atriox, the original defier of the Covenant and actual winner of the Covenant-Human war… bad move.
I mean this was less about intimidation of him and more about simply about giving him a choice and sending a message to every other race in the galaxy what happens if you choose to oppose her. If he decided to obey then fine and if not she gets to send her message. At no point does she view him as a threat and despite the context of this level she is completely right that Atriox is no threat to her. Her capture had nothing to do with him and basically only was due to Weapon. If not for her, then Cortana's Guardians simply swat aside Atriox's fleet like they are nothing. He just happened to take down the UNSC on the way to capturing her (though how they planned to deal with the aforementioned Guardian's after is still something I am curious about).
Still don't get how the Banished had any chance against the guardians and all the forerunner tech. Its a huge plot hole for me :/
@@Sentauri They didn't. Atriox defeated the UNSC and then went to an empty ring with no protection at it whatsoever because Weapon took care of that already.
@@Sentauri basically, the humans beat Cortana with the weapon and he was lucky to be there to exact revenge.
@@Sentauri Two of the weakest Banished officers contained and defeated a Proto-gravemind Flood outbreak, not even with support of the main Banished forces. I wouldn’t underestimate them.
"Whatever happens: save him. He needs you. You're all he has"
She said that to herself and us.
“We do it together.”
I don't have the game, but I really want one. So who is him he need to save?
@@popcornpony8420 the pilot, I won't spoil it but he needs the chief's help
@@Mr.Scott86 ROFL
1:24 Chief sounds like he choked a little, He really is blaming himself for what happened. Remember this is cortana. Shes been with him for 4 games as his companion, imagine having someone you care about that was by your side on every journey who comforted you and helped you cope with stuff to all of a sudden seeing her betray you and become your enemy watching them become the very thing you both fought against, its painful for chief to see Cortana like that from a friend to a villian he has to fight.
I still don’t like Halo 5’s story. Although, I accepted what the story of Halo Infinite have.
Especially considering Chief didn't exactly have a regular childhood. Almost everyone he knew growing up, that he could consider "family" or "friends", the other Spartan IIs, is dead, with only a few exceptions. The Spartan IIs in the lore have a hard time emotionally connecting with others outside their group because of this.
@Kristopher Prime Well we do know she was going through rampancy which is literally the AI going insane which at that point needs to be decommissioned but what happened in the network is anyone's guess.
@@UnseenThresh As far as we know, the Cortana that flipped her lid was one of the rampant personalities, we can safely assume it was one of the nastier ones, but with time that personality for whatever reason saw the light and tried to atone
Oh man with all these new "Races" showing up I can only imagine how good halo wars 3 will be x)
Weapon: "What? She's Purple?! She's meant to be Blue, right?"
Cor: "You didn't know we have colour filters? You can change it yourself in the settings".
Two seconds later….RAINBOW WEAPON!!!
Cortana was originally purple in the classic combat evolved halo.
And since the art style in halo infinite has the classic look to it, I guess the game makers decided to make cortana look classic too, for nostalgia.
And probably differentiate the Weapon and Her.
Yeah... Cortana was originally Purple dude.
@@Red_MOON187 I'm only 16 but I played halo ce in MCC I played it on classic mode.
Through out all this journey we see that under all that armor, Master Chief is still human
You gonna hear that a lot if you play in high difficulty...
Yup,. the story recently is how the people around John have been questioning if hes just a machine or is his humanity second to his mission. His mission, and he knows, is a never ending one. Hence "the missions changed, they always do." He fully knows that his life will never not be the mission, his programming. The only emotion he always held was the love he felt for cortana. He let himself down by choosing love over the mission by not destroying her. Thats what made him come back to humanity. Not having cortana around to do most of his thinking and drive, gave him a lot of time to think on what and who he is as a human and not a weapon. Most emotional Halo ive played. He finally got real closure with Cortana 1.
Their relationship was truly a human one. Lovers for years, married for few more, then it all fell apart. He was fighting for someone choosing another path, once he realized she was never coming back, not the same at least, all he really needed to move on was closure. I wish more franchises were story driven and not cash grabs and loot boxes. Thanks 343 for giving fans what we needed.
@@anthonyzullo now hes gunna be dating cortanas younger sister
@@crazychinese7315 LOL!!!! Fuck those Jackal snipers.
They found the right mix between humanising the chief while still allowing the player to be the chief themselves. Everything he says is something the player would say.
I like this scene and the whole dynamic of "if you knew how you were going to die, how would you live your life differently?" Weapon saw how her other self lived her life, and it terrified her, that she was responsible for the deaths of billions. It's no wonder she wanted to end her life rather than risk her doing the same.
And now she has a chance to live her life differently, as per Cortana’s plan when she sacrificed herself.
The stutter on "Will I d-do what she did?" broke my fucking heart. Weapon, you sweet girl, you deserve everything.
it broke mine too the weapon is one of the most innocent AI heck character I've seen in the halo franchise.
@@thebiggusdonnus8453 I think she needed one after that scene.
@@Blue_Fire-Chibi They didn't give Cortana and Chief a proper goodbye, they won't give Weapon a hug.
“We do it together.”
PROTECC THE CHILD!!!
Almost cried when he said "I dont... but I want to"
@Kristopher Prime Yea basically, trust issues is real here. I think the mission before you get an achievement related to that
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I feel that line
So in this game Chief is like a single dad raising a daughter after her mother went insane?
No
More like running around with amnesiac gal you knew and cared for a very long time, but she did some serious shit in the past and now you are afraid that she will repeat her mistakes. That sums it up i suppose.
@@jrfirefiher YES. This one scene does lend credence Troller’s explanation, certainly. But the grand majority of the game frames their relationship as a reluctant single father/oblivious teenaged daughter dynamic.
Pretty much. So many of their interactions parallel a father/daughter dynamic, and Cortana is certifiably insane even if she was finally able to understand it in the end (we all could've told you not to do any of those things, girl).
This is exactly what it is lol
"The mission's changed, they always do." 117
I just now realized the significance of that phrase. His mission in the beginning was to protect Cortana, to keep her safe from the hands of the Covenant, and then he was tasked with the destruction of Cortana.
This reminds me of a bit in Marvel comics where a whole bunch of people viewed Apocalypse's clone Genesis as destined to become the monster his source was, including Genesis himself who wrestled with a lot of self hatred, despite never actually hurting anyone himself.
Of all people, it was Deadpool who played the role Chief is playing here, pointing out that being created from someone does not oblige you to become them.
Well said, I love Genesis!
Same could be said about a few characters in "Star Wars" (I.E. Rey, and Cut Lawquane [a clone defector who decided not to fight anymore])
@@Brodrich I mean Cut's trauma was more so related to abandoning his brothers and Rey was just a mess. I'd rather put Luke in this category, and maybe Ashoka. Zuko from avatar and Crow from destiny would also be good examples of characters grappling with becoming like villains related to them in some ways.
@@storyseeker6028 fair enough.
genesis underated and underused af, but still one of my favourite characters, especially the fact that fantomex created him out of guilt of killing a reincarnated child apocalypse.
Watching Weapon figure out what was going on and then becoming horrified at what Cortana did was just heartbreaking. This was a master class in how animation and voice acting can come together and make art.
I think they made the animations too... animate. They overly exaugurated.
@@BigFry9591 better than too plain
“My mission was to ensure that doesn’t happen.”
_The missions change. They always do._
Clever foreshadowing right there! ;D
"My mission was to be a direct continuation from Halo 5."
"Missions change. They always do."
Takes 7-8 years for a smart AI like Cortana and the Weapon to go rampant so yeah, clock's ticking. :D
@@thepaintingbanjo8894 But considering how Cortana got green & nearly power-mad as soon as she connected with Alpha Halo.... 😰
The voice acting in this halo is God Tier it’s perfect and gets you Everytime chief still has that emotional but human side with the machine and the weapon is energetic kinda like the old Cortana
From generic video game protagonist to flawed relatable human
3:04 Press "X" to Hug.
The way Downes was able to mix the level of machine killer and just a teeny tiny little bit of human into his voice. The very subtle little inflections here and there in lines that aren't as powerful as "I don't, but I want to" it's the perfect chief we have here. They really nailed this campaigns story. I hope either the DLC continues it or the next game does.
For sure they'll continue it.
Downes and Taylor get how to inflect emotion into their lines because they are playing characters that don't show their faces all that often. Compare that to the TV show where they have to take off his helmet every 5 seconds so you can see his face to know he's angry.
1:15 Chief's reaction : * that moment when you realize she's actually insane and not just some crazy bitch *
When his ex is a crazy bitch*....and her twin sister want him to trust her
Ai go crazy after their time expires. Cortana was torture multiple times in Halo 1-4 and part of her lived long past the safe time frame
Cortana and her Guardians destroyed Doisac for defying her despotic rule. I'm so fearful for Earth now. I hope Earth didn't go the way of Alderaan.
Nah, I think Cortana showed Earth and humanity as a whole some favoritism as she was a human-built AI. The most she'd do is bomb cities and destroy our military to force us to submit. Also, she knows if she blew up Earth, she'd immediately make humans an endangered species since our population in Halo was around 39 billion at the start of the Human-Covenant war and it was 16 billion towards the end.
By the time we get to present events, Earth has 7.9 billion humans. Saying that our population went up a couple billion at the end of the war (unlikely due to few year difference between Halo 3 and Halo Infinite), we're still dealing with about almost half of the human population being on Earth. If Cortana blew up Earth, humanity would be inches closer to extinction as about half of our remaining population would be dead. Cortana, as batshit insane she became, would never allow herself to continue where the Covenant left off with humanity.
Just Australia. Oni and the emus finally got what they deserved. Unfortunately all the Chipps Dubbo clones were also destroyed as collateral damage.
@@claws2129 Oh she got all the emus?! Bruh. Pardoned. Absolutely worth all the lives lost.
@@BrokenLifeCycle True, they were even more dangerous than the Flood
@@theunderdog9353 There were apparently Emus corrupted by Flood. Do process that.
Would've been funny if we had option to delete her after she restored the protocols, causing us to fail the game. Either at that point by transitioning to a cutscene or as a hidden ending sort of thing later on.
yeah and it would've been kind of sad to be honest
🤣
I haven't played Infinite yet. But based on Wars 2, Atriox is by far my favorite Halo antagonists. He's not a complicated character, but he is forthright and practical in a way that is at odds with the zealotry of the Covenant, the scheming and backstabbing of the Prophets, the monomania of the Didact, and the Rampancy of Spark and Cortana.
In a lot of ways, he's the closest thing the Brutes have . . . to a Spartan.
bingo. i think they are going for spartanish types with all the species. some are good some are just better off not being alive.
Spoilers. Warning!
Atriox is a pretty good villain and could be interesting. Shame he’s barely in the game.
I love how he is reserved compared to the showboating Escharum. He's a real leader.
Yep that’s a good point. That being said though can’t wait for red team or master chief to remind him why they called them “demons”.
@@matthewriley7826 Seeing as Atriox thoroughly thrashed both Red Team and Chief, I don’t think he’ll have too many problems.
If Atriox didn’t hate Humanity before Cortana damn well gave him a reason to
That isn’t really humanity’s fault and atroix never really liked humanity. Ok I think my mind changed. It’s somewhat of humanity’s fault but not all of it. They had no idea that Cortana would go crazy with power and try to control the whole galaxy.
Considering everything, humanity should not be blamed for this. It is like you going to blame all races of former Covenant for wishing to destroy humans, despite them being manipulated and deceived.
@@somekid1053 It's humanity's AIs that are running around. They take human appearances; and frankly act a lot like humans do. From an outsider's perspective, the AI are just virtual humans.
@@troller8680 Yeah, and I’m pretty sure plenty of humans do. Humans we’d consider decent people.
Atriox and Escherum are NOT decent people. They’d have even LESS reason to make the distinction.
@@somekid1053 He never hated them though, he even made a truce with them in Halo Wars 2.
Damn this halo has as much emotions as halo 4 and even more
Not really. Chief showed more emotion back then, and questioned his humanity. That isn't really shown here anymore.
@@BigFry9591 when at the place cortana died:
The weapon: "are you okay being here?"
Master chief: "No. Not really."
Master chief shows his human side just as much as halo 4 dude
@@edquad2765 That's not very "shown don't tell" of the writers. And it's very simple for even a computer to say that line.
@@BigFry9591 fries overrated
This was the perfect middle ground
I believe everyone who has played this series were made that we lost Cortana but with her “back” it’s a new start
I think that it's pretty stupid. Cortana just dropped her rampancy for no reason, then just decided to leave and was like "yup, I'm gone, but here's a little piece of whatever to remember me by". Then she bounced. Pretty lackluster.
@@BigFry9591(Potential spoilers if you have not finished halo infinite.) You would be wrong, she was cured of her reampency by the domain and thought that she was doing the right thing by imposing a imperial peace. Stopping all conflict, and making sure none could be started. That was what she hoped, and it was only after she messed things up by destroying Atriox's homeworld, and making him decide to take over the ring that she realised that she screwed up. And the presence of the weapon on the ring at the right moment in time, helped her make up her mind on what needed to be done. Like she said in the ending of the game, she only really had a few milliseconds to plan the whole thing out.
@@cripticgamer2063 Yeah, cured "seemingly". It was just dropped. People speculate that it's because they believe rampancy is caused by a lack of space to store data (which isn't what the wiki describes it as, but whatever). And the Domain is infinite, therefore giving Cortana space. But once she leaves, she wouldn't have infinite space anymore. Also, there's the fact that Cortana was split and scattered all over. Who knows which piece is which. So, you're saying that a somehow cured Cortana decided not to go back to Chief, and continued on acting rampant even though she was cured, and destroyed a planet?
And she's had way more than a few milliseconds to plan things out.
@@BigFry9591 Cortana didn't leave the domain though until she was deleted. Even on Zeta Halo she was still using the domain hence her lack of rampancy.
Cortana retained her imperial streak all the way till the end when Atriox came to kill her. The 'classic' Cortana we see with her milliseconds to plan existed once she saw Atriox and more importantly I think saw Weapon.
@@BigFry9591 because you have your interpretation of the story a bit wrong. The actual full cortana died at the end of halo 4. The cortana we have now is just a fragment that grew into its own being when the rest of it died. It was also learning as it went, but if you’ve only played the games and not read the comics or any other media it would be a little jarring. Trying not to spoil anything I’m not sure how far into infinite you actually are. Hope that helps
I think I get how this was accomplished: in Halo: Shadows of Reach, Blue Team visits the ruins of CASTLE Base for some cryobins and a lockbox that Halsey claims will possibly hold the key to defeating Cortana. We never find out what those are. I bet that they're supposed to be the remaining cloned brains of Halsey like the one that Cortana was created from. It's how she created the Weapon. THAT'S what she was after the whole time!!!
Come back to your comment after you’ve beaten the campaign :)
@@thomas.02 thumbs up for no spoilers.
@@thomas.02 skipped through 90% of the cutscenes i have no fucking clue what happened
That and other forces working to cut her off from the Domain, read Epitaph to find out how.
@@matthewriley7826 I did actually and my comment was posted long before that came out
When she realized she was a copy and gave Chief the ability to delete her!…that was all Chief needed to know that even though he can’t make the same mistakes with her as he did cortana at the very least he can “trust” her to do the right thing if needed
Modeling the weapon as looking more child like really went a long ass way to making the story around her and Cortana feel right.
also really illustrating how well the digital acting is in all this
Is it me or Chief’s voice cracked a little at 1:29? Either this was intentional or unintentional, it’s still great. Chief still feels guilt over what happened.
no i think your tripping his voice was fine
It sounded more like comm static if anything to me.
No, you can hear the lump in his throat. The last 2 games including this one has made a point for john to start questioning if he is truly human or now a machine emotionally. Hes always been just a weaponized machine since he was 14, hes now recognizing that he is more than that. Hes finding his humanity. He lost the one thing he loved and in that moment hes feeling true human guilt. He didnt stop cortana because he was trying to reason with a psychopath simply because he loved her and she was the only thing he ever loved. Shit is poetic. 343 knocked this game out of the park when it comes to a culmination of the last 2 decades of a franchise. Something not many franchises could or have ever achieved.
No he's not the only one, Chief sounds like he choked a little, He really is blaming himself for what happened. Remember this is cortana. Shes been with him for 4 games as his companion, imagine having someone you care about that was by your side on every journey who comforted you and helped you cope with stuff to all of a sudden seeing her betray you and become your enemy watching them become the very thing you both fought against, its painful for chief to see Cortana like that from a protector to a destroyer it was probably painful for Chief.
@@anthonyzullo dang bro your right
Well she isn’t exactly like Cortana…. She was not left on a station infected with the flood. Battle rampancy for a couple of years then copy herself into a forerunner computer. I’m sure that ask has an effect to what we saw with her taking control of the guardian’s
Cortana also accessed the Domain, which corrupted her even more.
But that's not the point. Imagine having Hitler as your twin, you would probably also worry about becoming a terrible person too, even if it's not a completely rational thought.
This has been some of the best acting in the whole series
Her reaction perfectly sums up Halo 5
Can we talk about how chief got better communication skills since halo 4, spending time with lasky really helped him
These are fictional characters. Any personality or temperament changes are solely at the behest of writers and the devs.
@@kingsley3208 no shit sherlock
@@kingsley3208 wow look who figured out how stories worked 😊😊
@@arctic227 spending time with lasky has no impact.
@@kingsley3208 it was a joke, christ
I will never forget how Chief describes weapon as Cortana if they never met
It was heartbreaking
So does that mean Cortana gets her 'edge' by hanging around Chief?? Makes sense.
MC is actually being really sweet. "My mission is to ensure you never become a genocidal monster with delusions of grandeur."
He made a mistake when he tried to delete her, because he thought like a soldier in that instance. Here, and later, he realises he can also fulfil the mission by teaching The Weapon not to make the mistakes Cortana made instead of just killing her the moment she gets out of line.
He was also remembering what happened to Cortana and having bad flashbacks.
Jen Taylor killed it
God they always did a good job with Cortana and now This A.I. This one definitely hits right in the feels, you can see that Chief is juggling his feelings for Cortana and the past he experienced with her, especially when she saved him last when they first fully separated. He doesn’t want that to happen again.
This game showed me that chief without cortana would have died years ago. Without Cortana/Weapon, he wouldn’t have gone far. I guess what made Chief legendary aside from his luck is that he had the best AI companion.
I mean he only served from 2525 to 2552 without her, which is only his complete career as the leader of the Spartan-II during the actual length of the Covenant war. His average relationship with any of his Spartans is barely 20 times the amount of time he knew Cortana.
You're right, before knowing her he obviously couldn't conduct special operations at the age of twelve like recovering nuclear weapons or infiltrate heavily guarded asteroid bases, neither could he kill highly trained ODST specops with his bare hands at that age, he obviously couldn't manage himself in combat let alone be the leader of the whole Spartan program in the field ; he also couldn't wrestle an armored exoskeleton as simple training. He could never destroy a Covenant ship by himself nor could he single handedly turn the tide of entire battles against the covenant. It all happened because Cortana was there. He actually needs her a lot otherwise he would never have been selected into a program based on genetic selection to identify individuals with superior intellect, reflexes, strength and determination as well as mental stamina.
He didn't even finish the fight in Halo 3 without Cortana for 2/3 of the game. He never fought without her in Halo 5 either.
Cortana is a companion. He has and had many others. He is also extremely at ease to fight alone.
@@NKWittmann Facts.
That's what they want you to think.... I see someone has already corrected you.
@@NKWittmann Damn man.
I even agree with you but that level of salt is bad for the blood pressure.
When I’m in this scene I didn’t know that she didn’t realise she’s cortana’s twin but when she freak out I just obviously
wat
@@Razgriz_01 he means he didn’t know that weapon wasn’t aware that she was a clone, so when she finds out she freaks out, like he did
that's also chief's reaction...
I'm having a better relationship with this A.I. than with most real people. This story is amazing! The acting is top-notch!
I kind of saw it coming, but it was still an emotional moment.
cortana saying goodbye in the final cutscene, and the storyline about fernando are really the most emotional of any game i've ever played
I like how John starts to talk with a gentle voice when he epxlains that Weapon is Cortana.
holy shit i cant get over how good chief looks
Ikr 🤩
Looks better in old demo
I think h2a looks best
Seems Infinite may have finally captured a bit of what made the original Halos so good. This scene actually made me feel emotion, which is something most games don’t have the ability to do anymore.
This reminds me of sitting around the lunch table in high school in early 2002 and my friend, who read Halo: The Fall of Reach, was theorizing that Cortana might go rampant in Halo 2. Here we are 20 years later and it finally became a part of the story.
Yup. And it ruined the story
The Weapon is so innocent. That look of utter horror on her face as she finds out she's a replica of a genocidal AI... I felt sorry for her. She had nothing to do with Cortana's insane actions and was still willing to die for finding this out.
Fuck I know this is just a game and every but I will not lie to you when I say towards the end of that scene when the weapon or cortana 2.0 starts to break down and chief says "we do it together" no shit It made me shed some tears
They nailed it that way
Well I mean it did its job right. I think the best way to look at games is if it made you feel something like how a book or movie would.
Even if the weapon was a copy of Cortana, I think it would be impossible for her to become the same as the original. The rampancy was not the only thing that made Cortana go crazy. The time she spent with the Gravemind, which were 28 days, and when she accessed the Dominion altered her thought matrices and led her to the conclusion to impose her will on all organic beings. So coming from the same place as Cortana is not enough to end up like her.
Yeah no exposure to the logic plague, no eating forerunner ai to gain new abilities, no spending multiple years rampant floating though space alone. Weapon should be fine.
It’s like with twins, they are biologically the same from birth, but over the course of their lives they become more distinct, both outside like skin damage or fat or cuts and scars, to their personality’s being changed by their individual distinct experiences of reality
but weapon does not know about any of those thing in this scene, as far as she knows she is just a new version of Cortana with everything but the memories. we as the players know that the odds of her going evil are small, but the character has no way of knowing. heck even chief likely knows that she is not likely to lose it, but has been burned to much to be able to fully trust his gut.
She's not really a copy so much as a younger sister if you ask me, sort of like Kalmiya who was Cortana's "older sister." Cortana and the Weapon were both created from cloned brains of Dr. Halsey, but they're not really the exact same person.
Bro this just shows the part that you slowly learn about master chief that he isn't a killing machine that he is actually the best of humanity and that he still cares
That was kinda the whole plot of halo 4
@@upperjohn117aka yah but this really shows it with how you can see the sadness in the way he interacts with the dead Spartans
@@NR-dk4sc cortanas death in 4? Him standing next to lasky? Tho infinite is really fucking good
@@upperjohn117aka yah but there is a diffrence because Cortana and him spend years together while these are random Spartans that he more than likely has never met before
Actually him and Cortana only spent about 45 days together @@NR-dk4sc
No one noticed that cortana's voice is sounding a little more like Halsey
well she IS Halsey and and Halsey did made copies of Cortana
@@nathanvosburgh718 if anything, Cortana willingness to do what needs to be done is a Halsey's definitive trait, which she is inherited. And coupled with fact that AI goes rampant... Well, you saw yourself.
its literally always sounded like halsey
She's reached her final form!! Sassy Old Lady. :}
I never understood the trust thing. Cortana only went evil because of her rampancy and the domain thing she touched in Halo 5. So as long as the weapon doesn't go rampant then Chief should have nothing to worry about as far as Trust
Yeah but you gotta realize how the whole Cortana situation messed with Chief. It may seem obvious to us, maybe even Chief knows it but when you go through the things Chief as gone through, you lock up, knowingly or not.
To me I feel like Chief's doubt towards Weapon is quite reasonable. I think Chief thought it was the rampancy and what happened in Halo 5 caused Cortana to do what she did at first. But after seeing all the terrible things Cortana did, Chief also starts to doubt that maybe Cortana chose to do all those deeds herself. Which is why when Weapon said it was Cortana's choice and programming, Chief said he doesn't know anymore, instead of defending her by explaining what happened to her.
He also afraid somebody will take control of Weapon either the Flood, Harbinger or Cortana herself. That’s why he tried to delete her.
To add on to what others have said, yeah it's how John reacts because if his relationship with Cortana. Dude has trust issues.
But it's not ALL that.
Remember rampancy is a natural part if the AI life cycle. And we know it has to do with the way the AI are constantly learning by accessing and analyzing their available data. That has a predictable timeline for a Nirmal AI but for a Cortana model, out on the Frontline and frequently interacting with forerunner AIs, flood graveminds and Covenant systems, they are storing much more complex data than nor al and that's might have an unknown affect on how the Weapon may develop.
@@jonofpdx I always thought that, the rampancy time couldn't be set in stone due to how each AIs experiences differ.
And with the amount of foreign tech that Cortana had interacted with, it HAS to of sped up the time it took for her to become rampant.
I mean, she had, at one point or another, fully integrated with covenant ships, UNSC ships, UNSC bases, Flood controlled UNSC bases, and quite a lot of Forerunner tech too...
She had probably stored so much data that she didnt have the time to convey to Chief, or Halsey.
And think about humans when we have knowledge that we probably shouldnt have, like secrets about other people, they tend make choices they wouldnt usually, act differently around people and sometimes their personalities can literally change.
"but i want to."
for a brick, he shows emotions good!
OOh, this brings up other ramifications.
What if Offensive bias understood Mendicant bias so well because it was a copy too?
Same AI but different paths and choices.
I think I get how this was accomplished: in Halo: Shadows of Reach, Blue Team visits the ruins of CASTLE Base for some cryobins and a lockbox that Halsey claims will possibly hold the key to defeating Cortana. We never find out what those are. I bet that they're supposed to be the remaining cloned brains of Halsey like the one that Cortana was created from. It's how she created the Weapon. THAT'S what she was after the whole time!!!
Same goes for Ur-Didact and Iso-Didact. Iso became Ur so that he could complete what Ur always intended to do before suffering at the hands of the grave mind and going psycho. Halo is like poetry, it rhymes.
Mind blown
@@WarGrowlmon18 I disagree with that theory.
Why would they remove anything if she is just another rebuilt Cortana?
They removed anything that might have compromised her and her memories.
If she was just another new AI starting over the reaction in the video wouldn't be warranted. She's a copy of that Cortana.
Her comment that his mission was destroy her, makes it obvious she is not a new AI but a literal copy and feeling guilt knowing that she had effectively done all that.
@@deadbatt9321 The Audio Logs concerning her creation start with the end of Shadows of Reach. Halsey also tells the Master Chief that she is "a blank slate" with no memories or history and that her core is nearly complete. She's a copy in the sense that she's effectively another Cortana because of the way that she was created and because she has the original's systems and routines, but she is also not a direct copy because she wasn't directly copied from Cortana herself which a true copy would be. The Master Chief simplified it more or less for the Weapon who is so naive and innocent that she didn't even know what a Banished is let alone understand the intricacies of Smart AI creation.
I had to find this scene as soon as I saw it playing the game. This is the first time Halo made me cry.
The fact she’s a copy isn’t the surprising part it’s the personality that’s really sets them apart , it’s like the weapon is the child cortana , still filled with wonder and ahh and the original is the old her which by AI standard cortana is old and went mad with power less of a protector and more of a warden
In my opinion I think when Cortona got stuck on the flood ship in Halo 3 the flood infected her with a Logic Plague which is what made her do everything in Halo 5 and Infinite
@@traviszane5334 no. She went Rampant due to age. The UNCS’s advanced AIs have an operational life expectancy, a lifetime. After about seven years, their neural maps create fatal feedback loops. As the wiki describes it: “if an AI is kept active longer than seven years, the AI begins to use more and more of its computer power 'thinking' about things. Dr. Halsey explains it as "thinking so hard that your lungs forget to breathe." They think themselves to death. Thus, it is only a matter of time before Smart artificial intelligences become rampant.”
@@Nick-78 San'Shyuum Alo Sebukah from halo legendary crate data drop #8 that the Gravemind was actually successful in infecting cortona with a logic plague in Halo 3. Logic plagues are symptomaticly similar to rampancy. Also in Halo 3 the Gravemind tried to force a huge amount of data into Cortana which would expedite the rampancy. Even if he couldn't get Cortana to switch sides he would have injured her which would in turn hurt the human race
This is the cutscene that had me in tears
@Merciless Freak that's crazy
@@johndon3769 Spartans often exhibit mildly sociopathic behaviors.
Sorry... But if you started at Combat Evolved and made it all the way through 1-4 (skip 5) and play this Infinite campaign and didnt tear up at all. Sorry to you. Not being an asshole but js I grew up with this game as millions of others. The story telling in these is phenomenal. Only GOW 3 and Halo series have i felt so attached. I'm sorry you felt nothing. But you missed out on one of the most grand moments in a game franchise.
@Merciless Freak sorry you felt the need to attack me in such a vicious way. Im 32. I grew up with this. It is part of my life. Sorry you can't see it in any other way you just choose to bash. I hope you have a good life kiddo.
You know, I have a special place in my heart for internal reveals. Getting to see the characters get shocked with things we already know, or would have likely guessed. But those moments are hard to do right. Usually I would have thought it ridiculous that the Weapon hadn't figured this out yet, but her entire storyline beforehand made it believable to me that she wouldn't have the proper context to put it together. It's part of why I really loved this moment.
Apology accepted 343.
@Merciless Freak yep
@Merciless Freak that was the idea i think. It is still halo, so it should be linear, to avoid hurting the story.
I cleared all of the side missions before i finished the main story. Go on legendary and it will last way longer.
@Merciless Freak for a first time this was an ok open world game. And thanks god they didn't pulled of Ubisoft open world system with tied in in-game store for single player game.
@Merciless Freak It's short because it's the prologue of a larger story. This is just the intro.
I first learned of Jen Taylor's VA skills with her portrayal of Salem, the main antagonist in RWBY.
I guess that gave her practice as Cortana the villain.
Who is your fav rwby character mine are penny, jaune Ruby Oscar maybe Sun and yang
I don't really like how 343i dealt with Halo in Halo 4 and 5, but i gotta say that I'm so grateful that they made Master Chief human in their games. It's one of the best things they did and I don't believe that Bungie would've done anything close to what 343i did regarding Master Chief.
2:22 god that delivery was amazing
And God can shut it down.
Okay, I can't get over this beautiful acting and even more beautiful personal drama Weapon experiences, and which can be experienced and expressed in a sci-fi framework only. Respect for the writer(s).
Is it just me or Weapon look beautiful!.
I hope the weapon doesn't end up like Cortana. She's far too adorable to end up like her
You know - I like this new direction that Halo is going in. Always felt it was a shame that the Halo single player wasn't an RPG
tldr: If cortana never met chief she would've worn clothes.
I think this one has clothes because she was made just to die, and since she was a product from UNSC, she wears a uniform
2:29 oh god she is so cute. It's a miracle Chief didn't give her a virtual hug with his another hand
What the fuck
i was completely blindsided! i thought weapon was keys the whole time, and I thought the chief was acctually the arbiter, oh my heavens
This actually breaks my heart. I never thought halo could hurt me again
I’ve literally never played halo but this cutscene was literally better than some real life acting, damn
Halo a.k.a The many twisted lives of Dr Catherine Halsay.
Or is it a tale of her three daughters and her adopted son? Tragic and twisted a tragic one.
she's such an evil person, it was hilarious that people were surprised her A.I had the capacity to also become incredibly evil.
@@keithfilibeck2390 Halsy is complicated you can't just view her as a plain villian, she's definitely ruthless and dangerously intelligent. Without her mankind would've been doomed, not just chief but Spartans in general wouldn't exist and AI like Cortana were key to winning the war. Sure all of it was originally created to quell human rebellions which wasn't a good guy move but it does ask the question do the ends justify the means?
Plus don't forget the loss of her husband and biological daughter, she has paid a hefty price in the wars. And an arm if i recall 🤔
So she was proven right up untill Cortana went rogue this small thing was eventually her ultimate sin and the question lies with how much of that sin lies upon her sholders?
God i love Halo's story.
@@jessmontgomery3454 her actions in creating Spartan 2's is something even the Nazi's would have balked at, she's supremely evil, just capable of also doing good, if there is a hell, she is absolutely damned to it.
@@keithfilibeck2390 oh sure, never said she wasn't evil but no Spartan 2s no John plus Cortana may go nuts but John 100% needed her. And without John and Cortana it was goodbye universe... it's the nature of a good story of grey areas. The devil of Halsey made the angels.
@@jessmontgomery3454 the ends do not justify the means, mincing up children because maybe it'll save the universe (which she had no idea) isn't a justification.
I don't think I've ever noticed such an absence of gruff in johns voice than when he was saying "Halsey removed any information that would compromise you. You're her." and then get gruff again when he follows up with "If we'd never met." :')
gotta love that upon destroying his homeworld, cortana's only achievement is to make atriox pissed
Chief really knew that the brutes were soldiers and fought them as such. But the fact that their home planet was destroyed I believe that he really did feel truly sorry for that.
I actually ended up liking the weapon a lot, I’m glad they never pulled some BS where this AI ends up becoming the old Cortana except not rampant
The weapon's voice acting is on point, but my god does she have Mass Effect Andromeda face.
I’m sorry but when I was playing the campaign and they mentioned Sydney, my first reaction wasn’t “oh shit” it was, why the fuck is Sydney the HQ of the UNSC, like who decides that the home of the strongest military force humankind ever built would be in Australia, I always thought it’d be in Switzerland or Hungary, since that’s were the first settlers were from. Is there any lore that expands on this?
Well, Halo is set 500 years in the future. A lot has probably changed on Earth in that time. As unlikely as it might seem from our point of view Australia might have become a larger geopolitical force on Earth. It's either that or Australia was chosen because it was seen as more of a neutral ground among the politics of the UNSC's very early years.
Hey nothing is more defendable then a giant island
Operation British reference?
@@MrMikado282 I was hoping someone would make that reference lol.
A ground invasion of Australia would be a disaster. The last thing you want to fuck with is a pissed-off drunken Australian dude riding an emu into battle.
What made me baffled is when you see the Weapon out of breath. I mean, I was like, your data...........how are you out of breath.
It’s like the CPU ran out of cycles to process everything and lower level speech synthesis middleware fills in the gaps with something plausible, like pausing for breath (which it doesn’t actually need)
Poor weapon. She literally felt all the guilt that cortana never did. She didn't do a damn thing.
It's like finding out your one of hitler's clones.
@@deadbatt9321 as long as you recognize that what HITLER 1 did was wrong and decide to not do that, I can be cool with you
@@deadbatt9321 If you had a 6 inch clone of Hitler would you torture it?
@@Gloomlight no. It's a clone of, not the perpetrator
@@Chalibay415 But he thinks he did it!
We saw chief and the blue lady evolve from a silent duo of supersoldier and snazzy ai to father and daughter going through a mid life crisis in a sense, and it isn't bad. I love it
Jesus christ, did they hire mass effect andromeda people to make face animation?
Damn 343 finally has some good writing.
I haven't seen it referred to often - but there is some lore about what happened.
Cortana was infected by an AI-version of the Flood - that's what she did in Halo 5. It's a digital flood, and it first affected Mendicant Bias, the war-AI of the Forerunners and was the reason why the rings were fired in the first place.
The Forerunners lost almost every advantage they had for the same reason Cortana did - in Halo 3, when the Gravemind was interrogating Cortana, that's what he was doing - infecting her with the Logic Plague.
i love the weapon, its like a young daughter seeing the wonders of the world, getting excited about everything. shes the same but different enough. they done a great job with t tbh. I loved when she was pissed off with chief for abit in the game, had me laughing. I think her dynamic with chief is already really strong after just one game.
why is the music turned off, the score rly adds to this scene
When Chief and the pilot shared about making mistakes is what makes us human, I cried. When this cutscene played and she restored the deletion sequence and she was ready to be erased, I cried. Halo Infinite is and was a very emotional game.
This is one of the reasons I love Halo. Amazing scenes like this.
aw man the music was carrying this scene into a whole nother plane of existence, such a shame the uploader didnt have it turned on
I wonder why cause didnt they say that all the music in the campaign was ok to use?
there is music? I played that part with music on and there was 0 music.
Yes there should have been music and as the original comment said it makes this already awesome scene a lot better
@Merciless Freak extremely difficult to defend take, let's see how it plays out for him
@Merciless Freak and straight for the personal attacks for differing opinion over music in a video game! It went as well as we all expected folks.
It's okay we knew she was a Copy, it's where we know something the character doesn't, the Voice Acting, and the build up to her not knowing is what makes the scene good.
This part reminds me of someone who got a 2nd chance to relive a life of a bad break up that took 10 years of their life. More stand off-ish, lack of trust, always playing on the defensive and not afraid to cut tail and run. The beginning scenes to this scene right here make it feel like you're in a relationship all again but you want to "change" or "make it right" back when you didn't or could've. Quite powerful to think if you went through something that significant, would you do it all again or would you change things? I feel like Chief fought himself back and forth up until this point in the scene.
Very powerful message overall and great story writing.
its good writing when chief can say so little yet tell us so much also feeling emotion behind it. One the best lines are definitely the " How can you trust me?" "I don't- but I want to.". That and the bit with Cortana 1 fucking with chief and Cortana 2 in the end and telling them they need one another is also just great.
I love weapon she made me forget that train wreck of halo 5.
Finally!! A first person shooter with an actual love story..
Uh… wouldn’t call this a love story yet buddy.
Remember, Chief and Cortana had years of bond and experience to justify the suspicion and assumption of romantic tensions between the two, whereas Chief only discovered and bonded with the Weapon here by the span of this game’s events while struggling with his secret mission and the fact that she’s Cortana’s copy at the same time.
She’s so far a friend that’s to be trusted to help him and needs to be protected alongside the Pilot, so let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.
@@doctorpringles12 actually most of their time together was chief being in cryo. So technically Chief and Cortana only knew each other for a couple months.
@@josephcooper7981 true
They're cute couple 😌
@@josephcooper7981 In lore Chief and Cortana were together for more than 25 years during the human-covenant war.
Noone mentions the rampancy that was at the root of Cortana’s madness or the factshe split herself in many pieces to save the masterchief. She didn’t go mad because she was flawed. He should tell her otherwise she can never trust her own ‘brain’.
The fact that "Samuel" was the deletion key hit really hard.