They could’ve made that 1 frame at half length by turning the footage to 48frames (even though every 2 frames would be the same) and make the last frame just 1. Additionally, they could have taken out 2 frames before and after the end and beginning of every scene.
Movies are allowed to be extra long if the content is worth watching, T2 is definitely worth a longer edit. Same goes for TV series, some are just awesome and folk want them to run forever, others are milked to death e.g. Lost, there is a single episode length edit of the entire show, if you watch it you cannot think of anything that's missing, just shows how much padding it had.
I imagine that was very difficult seeing Terminator 2 is one of the top 25 movies ever made in my opinion. James Cameron is the greatest living director, the only other person that comes close is Quinton Tarantino. I look at these two directors as #1 because Tarantino belongs in his own category.
I realize this was before computer games are the way they are now, but listening to this I'm like, "Duh". Once you start getting too far below 30fps can really make it look jerky. A whole movie at 23fps would probably make you feel motion sick.
He needs to get his Shit together and Re-release the Terminator with all of the deleted scenes and the original sound effects restored into the movie... T2 is fine, Restore the first film
Cameron's notion that wholesale editing might work illustrates that he is not an artist. He is a visionary at best but the "art" behind Terminator and Titanic have nothing at all to do with him. He was just the guy in charge. The guy with the money. But not an artist.
God..... of screwups? This is a cautionary tale of what acting like a diva on an expensive film production gets you. If he weren't Cameron and the filming was only halfway done instead of finished already he would have been fired for this mistake. Do you have any clue how much time and money this mistake would waste to have 3 editors working full time to cut this AND fix it again?! Don't let the idiotically inappropriate music fool you - it makes him sound like Moses giving a sermon to his people but its an entitled prcik describing a career ending kind of film making mistake that would have gotten many others directors fired at best, and blacklisted at worst. Clearly the person who edited this music into the background doesn't have a clue what the clip actually means 😂🤣
Editing is super satisfying when you get it absolutely perfected to something really cool. But yea, it takes extreme amounts of patience and focus, which can be too much for some.
Neither does he. There are 3 editors listed on the credits for T2 and James Cameron is not one of them. Like so much of the films he makes he gives the impression that he does everything on them - up to and including inventing new CG VFX and underwater filming technologies. The truth is that he just threw money and the problem and a whole bunch of nameless wonders did all that work for him. He's a master of taking credit and giving none - aka the Steve Jobs of film. Taking credit also applies to the story behind Avatar which is a clear a ripoff of 2 well known 90s films (Ferngully and Dances with Wolves) - to this day he pretends that he had no separate inspiration for Avatar's plot but his own 'original' ideas.
@@mnomadvfx you know you can sue literally every company and every boss and CEO of the world with your analogy "why my boss hired me to do all his works and then the company/boss takes all the credit." Come on man, he is the boss. He got an idea and then has to tell the right people who can get that job done. If everyone starts doing everything themselves, from engineering to designing to selling, the person will go berserk.
This reminds of the scene in Amadeus where Mozart replies to the king who suggested that there were too many notes in the music and that He should choose what notes to remove.
I was in kindergarten when this came out and I remember going to the movies in greenbrier mall and damn there half the audience was children waiting to see the liquidator.
Did y'all not hear the part where he said "let's do a test with one reel" Mfs actin like he commanded them to do the whole ass thing without a trial run gtfo 😂
There's actually a few scenes from T2 Judgment Day I wish was kept in the final film. The scene where they work on the T-800s CPU chip so he can learn to be more human and Sarah wants to destroy it with a hammer but John convinced her to not do it. I found that very interesting because it shows even at a young age John has leadership skills and you're convinced he's definitely going to be the guy to save humanity. Then at the films ending the T-1000 starts to have glitches from being frozen. He can't control his abilities anymore and everything he touches turns his liquid metal into different shapes and colors. It shows that the T-1000 isn't invincible and can be destroyed.
Love that he tried something that coulda worked and shoulda been minimalist, though tedious, but realized it turned into a cluster. And didn't keep pushing.
Exactly - he's more of a salesman than a film maker. He's the Steve Jobs of film. 1000s of people were involved in every major film he ever made - and that's not even including the actors. Not once have I seen him specifically single out these people for their irreplaceable contributions. He acts as if he single handedly invented the performance capture tech for Avatar - rather than simply used it on set after a team of talented people put it together for him.
I just love how realistic and detailed this movie is. Even that little scene with the bike. It’s honestly key to why this movie works in the first place, because the more outrageous your plot and characters are, the harder it is to sell it. Especially if you wanna do it seriously like here.
IDR when but I tried this as a kid making Lego stop motion movies. I'm not sure if I was even trying to shorten it. But my god was it jumpy and was very jarring to play back. Now I'm imagining a poorly timed edit of Terminator 2 and that's pretty hilarious in my mind.
Terminator 2 will always be one of the very best sequels to any movie! James Cameron even put Guns and Roses in the movie and featured their music for the soundtrack! 🤟
Even put Guns and Rose in the soundtrack..... Why did you make it sound like he just worked a magic trick? G&R were going big at the time - it wouldn't have taken much convincing to get the producers on board for the cost of the soundtrack rights. Plus Cameron had T1, Aliens and The Abyss behind him to get G&R onboard if they weren't into putting their music on soundtracks before that. Not to mention G&R got a leg up from the T2 PR/music video crossover too - it's more of a tidy business arrangement than you think.
@@mnomadvfx It was a as you say a "leg up" for G&R, Because I remember camping outside Camelot music to buy "Use your illusion 2!" The fact that James Cameron featured Guns n' Roses in that movie because they were the biggest band in the world at that time is because of the chaos surrounding the release of the "Use your illusion 2." G&R wrote the song " You will be mine" specifically for Terminator 2.
Ewww no - the Skynet edition ending was terrible compared to the theatrical ending. Practically cringeworthy. There's a reason it took a couple of decades to get a release - it's cutting room floor refuse that sounded good on paper and looked terrible after they filmed it. That's not even counting the stuff you don't see get cut. Like a half dozen to a dozen takes for scenes that did get left in that had mistakes or made the scene too long/drag on. Cuts aren't only done to cut film time - sometimes a scene/shot drags on past its usefulness and just adds dead weight to the film time, and they often shoot way more footage than they need.
Try watching an unedited film and you will see how hilariously wrong you are. The average blockbuster film would look like a B movie without some SEROUS editing to curate the best footage and cut out the deadweight. Not just the scenes that drag on too long - but also th ones where dialogue that sounded awesome on the page landed like a rock on screen. Then there's shots where watching in post you realise it will take far too long / add to much cost to the VFX schedule and you have to cut that too. Sometimes stuff gets cut before it even gets shot - like with the production of Alien where the producers were just getting in Ridley's face about costs all the time, and he had to cut a big key scene with a facehugger egg silo on the alien planet that ended up being cut into the simplified egg chamber scene in the film with no real set and only a matte painting background in the long shot. Without that added laser lit mist in the scene it would have looked really weak without a proper set - so give thanks to The Who who were shooting their music video with it at the same time 😅
Something modern day directors seem to forget. Cutting a movie to a manageable length. When a director can cut their movie down to 2 hours, I applaud them and appreciate the movie more than a 4 hour clusterf*ck that won’t be whittled down to 2 hours.
If you write an amazing screenplay, film it in its magnanimous beauty, sparing nothing,… I would sit there for 3 1/2 hours to watch that spectacle. But I don’t ever wanna experience the original Dune again. Just saying. Hollywood bowing to the (enter here whatever the standard maximum length of a feature film can be), factor is very like in the late 60s when songwriters and musicians ran up against the brick wall of standards that said “a hit record can only be 2:50; that’s it!”
When the boss "finds out something mind blowing" that everyone already knew but still had to do that bull* work for weeks because the boss thought he was a genius who knew better...
Even writing scripts feels like that, especially in the beginning. If you are writing something that is supposed to be no more than an hour and you have 64 pages, it feels like your cutting out pieces of your soul to get to that 57-60 page maximum. But as you get better and better, it doesn't hurt as much and you get much better at it.
Ironically film only history for boomer directors coming up on the job he should have known better after directing 3 major films solo and finishing another before that with Piranha 2. Doing this today with digital video would cost you no more than writing an NLE script to do the cutting and a few minutes at worst to process the job with a top of the line editing system and network to access the footage - then a little more time to restore the OG edit state when Bozo the clown sees his mistake. Doing it back in the early 90s..... holy jehayzeus christ that would have taken a lot of work and then some just to do it, let alone to fix it too 😅 This is less a Boomer thing to do and more an Alzheimer's thing to do.... 😂🤣
True that - even just editing down a movie for these UA-cam film reactions takes many times longer than it takes to watch it. For practice I did it for A Few Good Men and was thoroughly sick of a film I had previously loved after repeating the same clips many to dozens of times 😅
@@mnomadvfx Absolutely I was in film school and we were given a different script and we would have to act out that scene. I was given the task to edit a three minute scene and it took me forever. It’s very time-consuming and you have to have a lot of patience. Very tentative work I admire my best friend who works for a a UA-cam channel I don’t know how she does it
Sad James Cameron became a Vegan and only wants to make films now about Blue people with boring stories. He will never reach his absolute best ever again the same way he did with Terminator 2, i dont care if crapvatar 2 made 2.something billion its fucking boring
he needed to do that to understand how editing works? 🤦 somebody give this man an Eisenstein book... even better, somebody send him to dive in the oceans, it's his thing definetily... movies? he forgot about it after T2, precisely, you can tell
I remember when he was making Titanic and it was massively going over budget and having all sorts of issues. I really thought it was going to be a disaster as I could not imagine young people going to see a movie set on a Victorian Boat, especially when we all knew the ending. If you think bout it on paper it sounds like box office poison. People in Victorian costumes in a very stuffy time in history and the only exciting event is going to be the sinking. But he proved everyone wrong. He is an incredible filmmaker. At the time period dress movies with English actors never did that swell at the box office. Not blockbuster well.
I only watch the Director's Cut so... I'm glad for it to be longer... there are only 2 Terminator Films, 1 and 2 (Director's Cut) Same with Alien 1 and 2
This may be the dumbest thing ever said by a director trying to create a story where there is none. A film is shot at 24 frames PER SECOND. If you take one frame out of the 24 in each second you end up with 23 frames PER SECOND. You're not cutting down time, you're taking out frames. Of course "every frame is important" lol, but it's not because of some idiotic sense of "perfection", but because it would look jumpy
Jesus.. "never done before" wonder why 🤦🤣 what editor or anyone with any cinematics knowledge wouldn't understand that you can't remove 1/24 frames of already recorded material without getting jerk? My god his staff must've cringed 🤣 Clue - there are 24 frames per second for a reason. It's not just an arbitrary number someone pulled from a hat.. it's for our brain to register it as fluid motion, so any frame skip would obviously make a noticable jump. And Whyyy the hell would you do the whole thing and not just 5-10 seconds to see how it'd look first if you really had to try? 🤣 Jeesh wtf Cameron. This mind fucked me
What's funny is that today, you COULD do this. Except you would take out TWO consecutive frames, and then use AI interpolation on the preceeding and following frames to replace the two you took out with a single frame. It would still look weird, but as long as the two frames were chosen wisely (which you could also do with an AI algorithm), there wouldn't be "jumps".
I remember watching T2 2-3x a day when it came out on vhs. I was 10/11 years old. We would put on the surround system and watch it for weeks/months. That movie was the best and still is to this day. James Cameron to film is like what Michael Jackson is to music. Untouchable
Eh? He's always been lukewarm. Strange how Avatar and Titanic were #1 before the films debuted . Avatars story was a mess . The political goodness and undertone themes that someone individual thought it was hip to make such a politically correct movie that it could run for president! FJB. & FJC!
He could've put the entire opening future war sequence from the novel, including sending Kyle back and the T800 and no one would've complained. Yet Titanic got 3 hours and put most of us to sleep.
that must be one of the dumbest ideas that could come from someone who doesn’t have even a basic understanding of videography who happen to be one of the best story tellers of all time
This is an incredibly important concept for him to have done, though I'm surprised he didn't know immediately that it wouldn't work. It's important because Cameron is like Kubrick in that every single frame in his movies belongs there. None are extra and none are disposable!
Imagine if James Cameron had the technology and money today to make T2. I have no doubt the future war scene would be 20 minutes long. Shame he’s addicted to Avatar.
Born in 1986 lets just say even till this day 2022 Sept it's the best movie ever made.i remember when wide-screen came out my mom bought the film. But I cried because I couldn't see the whole screen.i show my 2year old son this movie he loves it.arnold aka terminator is my idea of a hero .marvel doesn't compare.
😆 JC u think u r special Making a movie editing it, is less special than most everything---- u r not building anything u r just making entertainment like the clowns on a fast food commercial--- JC your talent is useless in a world of building you just provide a diversion to reality, which to me is a negative
"The editors looked at me as I was nuts. Which I was"
Mans told his entire crew to meticulously edit the film for absolutely nothing.
Nah, proves how difficult the art of editing really is. He proved their worth to everyone in the industry.
Pretty sure there's just a command for that
"A reel" they didn't do the entire film.
@@iz723 Didn't have software like that in 1990 lol, the movie was shot on film not digital
For science
Very well put. Mad props.
Wait, this was 1990. No Digital cutting. Somebody pulled an all nighter to comodate MR egoes request.
That is fascinating - never would have thought
They could’ve made that 1 frame at half length by turning the footage to 48frames (even though every 2 frames would be the same) and make the last frame just 1. Additionally, they could have taken out 2 frames before and after the end and beginning of every scene.
They couldn't turn it from 24 to 48 because it's literally shot on film. Film that runs on a projector at 24 frames a second.
Outstanding movie Sir!!!!
Movies are allowed to be extra long if the content is worth watching, T2 is definitely worth a longer edit.
Same goes for TV series, some are just awesome and folk want them to run forever, others are milked to death e.g. Lost, there is a single episode length edit of the entire show, if you watch it you cannot think of anything that's missing, just shows how much padding it had.
If "professional critics" never existed imagine the masterpieces we could have had. I'd easily take a 3+hr cut of T2..
I wonder how the unedited Terminator 2 film look like.
I imagine that was very difficult seeing Terminator 2 is one of the top 25 movies ever made in my opinion.
James Cameron is the greatest living director, the only other person that comes close is Quinton Tarantino.
I look at these two directors as #1 because Tarantino belongs in his own category.
I realize this was before computer games are the way they are now, but listening to this I'm like, "Duh". Once you start getting too far below 30fps can really make it look jerky. A whole movie at 23fps would probably make you feel motion sick.
He needs to get his Shit together and Re-release the Terminator with all of the deleted scenes and the original sound effects restored into the movie... T2 is fine, Restore the first film
Wouldn’t the audio get out of sync if they did that?
Why can't they have it longer?
Why don’t they make longer movies? I don’t mind a five hour movie
Me: *hears everyone call James Cameron overrated and believes them
Also Me: *watches Terminator 2 and realizes they were wrong
cutting is king
Cameron's notion that wholesale editing might work illustrates that he is not an artist. He is a visionary at best but the "art" behind Terminator and Titanic have nothing at all to do with him. He was just the guy in charge. The guy with the money. But not an artist.
If it were me I'd put star wipes all over T2 👌🏼
Cameron is God.
God..... of screwups?
This is a cautionary tale of what acting like a diva on an expensive film production gets you.
If he weren't Cameron and the filming was only halfway done instead of finished already he would have been fired for this mistake.
Do you have any clue how much time and money this mistake would waste to have 3 editors working full time to cut this AND fix it again?!
Don't let the idiotically inappropriate music fool you - it makes him sound like Moses giving a sermon to his people but its an entitled prcik describing a career ending kind of film making mistake that would have gotten many others directors fired at best, and blacklisted at worst.
Clearly the person who edited this music into the background doesn't have a clue what the clip actually means 😂🤣
Is there any better sequel director than James Cameron?
How long was it suppose to be ?
Great flick, I'd been good for 3 hrs
why? why not continuing terminator the Sarah Connor cornicles. I want to watch more Sarah chronicles.
I seriously could never, damn. That's a level of patience I don't have
It depends on how much you're getting paid for editing 😂
Editing is super satisfying when you get it absolutely perfected to something really cool. But yea, it takes extreme amounts of patience and focus, which can be too much for some.
@@kalvenzander4710 dude...a simple script with a few lines of code can remove a frame per second and re-encode the clip. No need for AI.
Neither does he.
There are 3 editors listed on the credits for T2 and James Cameron is not one of them.
Like so much of the films he makes he gives the impression that he does everything on them - up to and including inventing new CG VFX and underwater filming technologies.
The truth is that he just threw money and the problem and a whole bunch of nameless wonders did all that work for him.
He's a master of taking credit and giving none - aka the Steve Jobs of film.
Taking credit also applies to the story behind Avatar which is a clear a ripoff of 2 well known 90s films (Ferngully and Dances with Wolves) - to this day he pretends that he had no separate inspiration for Avatar's plot but his own 'original' ideas.
@@mnomadvfx you know you can sue literally every company and every boss and CEO of the world with your analogy
"why my boss hired me to do all his works and then the company/boss takes all the credit."
Come on man, he is the boss. He got an idea and then has to tell the right people who can get that job done.
If everyone starts doing everything themselves, from engineering to designing to selling, the person will go berserk.
He could’ve made Terminator 2 over 9 hours long and I would’ve watched it.
If it was meaningful to the story no doubt but that's a marathon of a watch.
@@joecooper8527 just imagine you are binging a netflix series
@Michael Wayne this is great. I’ll think of you next time I watch it.
The reason it couldn't be that long is because there isn't enough popcorn ..... derrr !
Yeah, all the deleted scenes I've watched from T2 are good, specially the one where they show Sarah and John taking the T800 cpu from his head.
This reminds of the scene in Amadeus where Mozart replies to the king who suggested that there were too many notes in the music and that He should choose what notes to remove.
hahah, right!
I would watch a 3 hours Version of T2 and would Love it
Rejoice! The Extreme and Ultimate DVD versions are about 3 hours long and it makes the movie better in my opinion
The director’s cut is kino
@@QuidamByMoonlight Thanks for the Tip.
@@DarranKernThat's the extra 15 minutes, then in 96 was T2, 3D
That film was a masterpiece. I was 8 years old and it was my introduction and right of passage into cinema. What an experience. 1991
*rite
The blockbuster years 🎉
Were you Born in 1983?
My brother was born in 1982, me 1980.
We both enjoyed this film back then..
👌👌
I was in kindergarten when this came out and I remember going to the movies in greenbrier mall and damn there half the audience was children waiting to see the liquidator.
Lol I was 7 and thought all Jean Claude Van Damme movies were the top of action until this came out this movie changed my whole outlook on cinema
Did y'all not hear the part where he said "let's do a test with one reel"
Mfs actin like he commanded them to do the whole ass thing without a trial run gtfo 😂
A good example of frame removal is in the Kingsman movies, the fight scenes delete frames to make them feel snappier
And make them atrocious
@@oz_jones imagine commenting this horrible take 🤡
@@oz_jones I bet you like marvel fight scenes
Fight scenes are 10% actual fighting and 90% editing these days
@@kaiderhai86 the Kingsman series is pretty good for letting you see what’s actually going on
"Every frame is necessary"
_Stanley Kubrick has joined the chat._
He knew it wouldn’t work. When someone tells you to do something stupid the best way to illustrate it is to show them rather than argue against it.
The power is that EVERY FRAME was important.
Perfection is not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
“Edit this film”
“Why?”
“So we can all learn a valuable lesson”
You forgot the part where he said they edited a REEL.
@@sincereflowers3218 "I missed the birth of my child for this?"
Man this movie could be 4hrs long i still would've watched it 15 times in my childhood
Assemble all those cut frames into a 2 minute version of the movie!
Imagine the whiplash you'd get from it.
There's actually a few scenes from T2 Judgment Day I wish was kept in the final film. The scene where they work on the T-800s CPU chip so he can learn to be more human and Sarah wants to destroy it with a hammer but John convinced her to not do it. I found that very interesting because it shows even at a young age John has leadership skills and you're convinced he's definitely going to be the guy to save humanity. Then at the films ending the T-1000 starts to have glitches from being frozen. He can't control his abilities anymore and everything he touches turns his liquid metal into different shapes and colors. It shows that the T-1000 isn't invincible and can be destroyed.
Love that he tried something that coulda worked and shoulda been minimalist, though tedious, but realized it turned into a cluster. And didn't keep pushing.
With great editing comes great responsibility!
-James Cameron's Uncle, probably..
He is a genius. No one can match his height
I could listen to him talking about film making all day.
Even when what he's saying is very stupid and obvious?
Exactly - he's more of a salesman than a film maker.
He's the Steve Jobs of film.
1000s of people were involved in every major film he ever made - and that's not even including the actors.
Not once have I seen him specifically single out these people for their irreplaceable contributions.
He acts as if he single handedly invented the performance capture tech for Avatar - rather than simply used it on set after a team of talented people put it together for him.
I just love how realistic and detailed this movie is. Even that little scene with the bike. It’s honestly key to why this movie works in the first place, because the more outrageous your plot and characters are, the harder it is to sell it. Especially if you wanna do it seriously like here.
One of a few geniuses of film making, I wish he lived 500 years to see what he'd come up with.
IDR when but I tried this as a kid making Lego stop motion movies. I'm not sure if I was even trying to shorten it. But my god was it jumpy and was very jarring to play back.
Now I'm imagining a poorly timed edit of Terminator 2 and that's pretty hilarious in my mind.
Terminator 2 will always be one of the very best sequels to any movie!
James Cameron even put Guns and Roses in the movie and featured their music for the soundtrack! 🤟
Even put Guns and Rose in the soundtrack.....
Why did you make it sound like he just worked a magic trick?
G&R were going big at the time - it wouldn't have taken much convincing to get the producers on board for the cost of the soundtrack rights.
Plus Cameron had T1, Aliens and The Abyss behind him to get G&R onboard if they weren't into putting their music on soundtracks before that.
Not to mention G&R got a leg up from the T2 PR/music video crossover too - it's more of a tidy business arrangement than you think.
@@mnomadvfx It was a as you say a "leg up" for G&R,
Because I remember camping outside Camelot music to buy "Use your illusion 2!"
The fact that James Cameron featured Guns n' Roses in that movie because they were the biggest band in the world at that time is because of the chaos surrounding the release of the "Use your illusion 2."
G&R wrote the song " You will be mine" specifically for Terminator 2.
Wait now we are using this music for James Cameron talking about editing?
That movie should never have cut anything. it was a masterpiece
Ewww no - the Skynet edition ending was terrible compared to the theatrical ending.
Practically cringeworthy.
There's a reason it took a couple of decades to get a release - it's cutting room floor refuse that sounded good on paper and looked terrible after they filmed it.
That's not even counting the stuff you don't see get cut.
Like a half dozen to a dozen takes for scenes that did get left in that had mistakes or made the scene too long/drag on.
Cuts aren't only done to cut film time - sometimes a scene/shot drags on past its usefulness and just adds dead weight to the film time, and they often shoot way more footage than they need.
Oh yeah cutting and editing is an amazing skill that just gets overlooked nowadays.
I wish we could see the original film that he would have done without having to have shorten it
"he's joking right?"
"I don't think so"
"that's it, I quit, God damn directors"
Wow, that’s really fascinating!
I wish they hadn't cut anything. Just make it longer.
Try watching an unedited film and you will see how hilariously wrong you are.
The average blockbuster film would look like a B movie without some SEROUS editing to curate the best footage and cut out the deadweight.
Not just the scenes that drag on too long - but also th ones where dialogue that sounded awesome on the page landed like a rock on screen.
Then there's shots where watching in post you realise it will take far too long / add to much cost to the VFX schedule and you have to cut that too.
Sometimes stuff gets cut before it even gets shot - like with the production of Alien where the producers were just getting in Ridley's face about costs all the time, and he had to cut a big key scene with a facehugger egg silo on the alien planet that ended up being cut into the simplified egg chamber scene in the film with no real set and only a matte painting background in the long shot. Without that added laser lit mist in the scene it would have looked really weak without a proper set - so give thanks to The Who who were shooting their music video with it at the same time 😅
Probably the best action film ever made. Glad they didn't remove any of the crucial moments.
Something modern day directors seem to forget. Cutting a movie to a manageable length. When a director can cut their movie down to 2 hours, I applaud them and appreciate the movie more than a 4 hour clusterf*ck that won’t be whittled down to 2 hours.
Yeah, if Terminator 2 can be whittled down to 2 hours, then no other movie has any business being too long. This was a nearly perfect movie.
@@josemexicanmexican7602 💯 this.
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron!
Lol "manageable length"
Makes 3 hour blue pocahontas in space.
If you write an amazing screenplay, film it in its magnanimous beauty, sparing nothing,…
I would sit there for 3 1/2 hours to watch that spectacle.
But I don’t ever wanna experience the original Dune again.
Just saying.
Hollywood bowing to the (enter here whatever the standard maximum length of a feature film can be), factor is very like in the late 60s when songwriters and musicians ran up against the brick wall of standards that said “a hit record can only be 2:50; that’s it!”
Where is this interview from?
I can't find it on youtube.
That's obviously not gonna work lol stupid video makes no sense .. I'm a filmmaker..
I still love that movie
Trial and error, the process of learning. The only failure is not to learn from mistakes.
This is the most James Cameron thing ever.
Now a great thing to do would be to make those cuts and edits for only the scenes with the Terminators
When the boss "finds out something mind blowing" that everyone already knew but still had to do that bull* work for weeks because the boss thought he was a genius who knew better...
Steven Spielberg told the EXACT SAME story about Jaws.
The hard part was stealing the story from someone else
Nowadays: Yeah, I can run a script to delete one frame a second. It'll take a few minutes to run.
Not going to lie, that the movie could have lasted 24 hours and I still want to watch it.
I didn't really get anything he said but T2 is still a great movie that holds up to this day
Makes me wonder what a full length Terminator 2 would look like.
It looks good. Everything that they removed made it even better. It is a damn near perfect movie.
Decades ago James Cameron was laughed at for making his movies by the Hollywood establishment. Nobodies laughing today.
Even writing scripts feels like that, especially in the beginning. If you are writing something that is supposed to be no more than an hour and you have 64 pages, it feels like your cutting out pieces of your soul to get to that 57-60 page maximum. But as you get better and better, it doesn't hurt as much and you get much better at it.
What a boomer thing to do jesus christ. Goes to show cameron aint a editor 😂
Ironically film only history for boomer directors coming up on the job he should have known better after directing 3 major films solo and finishing another before that with Piranha 2.
Doing this today with digital video would cost you no more than writing an NLE script to do the cutting and a few minutes at worst to process the job with a top of the line editing system and network to access the footage - then a little more time to restore the OG edit state when Bozo the clown sees his mistake.
Doing it back in the early 90s..... holy jehayzeus christ that would have taken a lot of work and then some just to do it, let alone to fix it too 😅
This is less a Boomer thing to do and more an Alzheimer's thing to do....
😂🤣
Greatest sequel ever made.
3 hrs even 3.5 hours is fine for a movie. Builds the story line
But then theaters won't want to show it because they could have 2 showings of any other movie
@@kg4boj Theaters don't matter anymore, anyway.
Editing is hard. Whoever tells you that movie editing is easy a bold face liar.
True that - even just editing down a movie for these UA-cam film reactions takes many times longer than it takes to watch it.
For practice I did it for A Few Good Men and was thoroughly sick of a film I had previously loved after repeating the same clips many to dozens of times 😅
@@mnomadvfx Absolutely I was in film school and we were given a different script and we would have to act out that scene. I was given the task to edit a three minute scene and it took me forever. It’s very time-consuming and you have to have a lot of patience. Very tentative work I admire my best friend who works for a a UA-cam channel I don’t know how she does it
Sad James Cameron became a Vegan and only wants to make films now about Blue people with boring stories. He will never reach his absolute best ever again the same way he did with Terminator 2, i dont care if crapvatar 2 made 2.something billion its fucking boring
My man built different
he needed to do that to understand how editing works? 🤦
somebody give this man an Eisenstein book...
even better, somebody send him to dive in the oceans, it's his thing definetily... movies? he forgot about it after T2, precisely, you can tell
I remember when he was making Titanic and it was massively going over budget and having all sorts of issues. I really thought it was going to be a disaster as I could not imagine young people going to see a movie set on a Victorian Boat, especially when we all knew the ending. If you think bout it on paper it sounds like box office poison. People in Victorian costumes in a very stuffy time in history and the only exciting event is going to be the sinking. But he proved everyone wrong. He is an incredible filmmaker.
At the time period dress movies with English actors never did that swell at the box office. Not blockbuster well.
With great editing comes great responsibility!
If they casted Arnold's twin Danny DiVeto instead for the t1000 that would've shortened the film
How stoned was James when he thought of this?
No, if he was stoned it probably would have worked somehow LOL
If you remove 1 frame every second, you have 23 frames per second, so exactly the same amount of seconds, just 1 frame missing from each.
As a person who edited for television for nearly 20 years, taking one frame out every 24 would be a MIND NUMBING experience. Those poor, poor editors.
I only watch the Director's Cut so... I'm glad for it to be longer... there are only 2 Terminator Films, 1 and 2 (Director's Cut)
Same with Alien 1 and 2
This may be the dumbest thing ever said by a director trying to create a story where there is none. A film is shot at 24 frames PER SECOND. If you take one frame out of the 24 in each second you end up with 23 frames PER SECOND. You're not cutting down time, you're taking out frames. Of course "every frame is important" lol, but it's not because of some idiotic sense of "perfection", but because it would look jumpy
Jesus.. "never done before" wonder why 🤦🤣 what editor or anyone with any cinematics knowledge wouldn't understand that you can't remove 1/24 frames of already recorded material without getting jerk? My god his staff must've cringed 🤣
Clue - there are 24 frames per second for a reason. It's not just an arbitrary number someone pulled from a hat.. it's for our brain to register it as fluid motion, so any frame skip would obviously make a noticable jump.
And Whyyy the hell would you do the whole thing and not just 5-10 seconds to see how it'd look first if you really had to try? 🤣 Jeesh wtf Cameron. This mind fucked me
What's funny is that today, you COULD do this. Except you would take out TWO consecutive frames, and then use AI interpolation on the preceeding and following frames to replace the two you took out with a single frame. It would still look weird, but as long as the two frames were chosen wisely (which you could also do with an AI algorithm), there wouldn't be "jumps".
I remember watching T2 2-3x a day when it came out on vhs. I was 10/11 years old. We would put on the surround system and watch it for weeks/months. That movie was the best and still is to this day. James Cameron to film is like what Michael Jackson is to music. Untouchable
Eh? He's always been lukewarm. Strange how Avatar and Titanic were #1 before the films debuted . Avatars story was a mess . The political goodness and undertone themes that someone individual thought it was hip to make such a politically correct movie that it could run for president!
FJB. & FJC!
He could've put the entire opening future war sequence from the novel, including sending Kyle back and the T800 and no one would've complained.
Yet Titanic got 3 hours and put most of us to sleep.
that must be one of the dumbest ideas that could come from someone who doesn’t have even a basic understanding of videography who happen to be one of the best story tellers of all time
This is an incredibly important concept for him to have done, though I'm surprised he didn't know immediately that it wouldn't work.
It's important because Cameron is like Kubrick in that every single frame in his movies belongs there. None are extra and none are disposable!
Imagine if James Cameron had the technology and money today to make T2. I have no doubt the future war scene would be 20 minutes long. Shame he’s addicted to Avatar.
Born in 1986 lets just say even till this day 2022 Sept it's the best movie ever made.i remember when wide-screen came out my mom bought the film. But I cried because I couldn't see the whole screen.i show my 2year old son this movie he loves it.arnold aka terminator is my idea of a hero .marvel doesn't compare.
😆 JC u think u r special
Making a movie editing it, is less special than most everything---- u r not building anything u r just making entertainment like the clowns on a fast food commercial--- JC your talent is useless in a world of building you just provide a diversion to reality, which to me is a negative
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