Every time I see a video of Stephen Fry I am always impressed with his genuinely warm and welcoming demeanor. Not to mention his mastery of the English language. He comes across as a truly genuine soul who is not hiding an alterior motive and presents his true self. He is definitely in the top 3 list of people that I could invite for dinner, have a nice roaming chat and die knowing that I met one of the best and nicest people that has ever walked this earth.
Msr.Fyre, if you wish to mention a mastery of the English language, you might do well to know the spelling of that word were 'ulterior', not 'alterior', as in 'ultimate' and 'ultra', not 'alternative' and 'alternate', though both might derive of a similar source to an 'interior' or 'exterior'. [It is arguable whether anyone can have a mastery of the English language: the full grammar thereof, to be found of Oxford University library shelves, in volumes 15" high and 5" wide, takes up some 60' of space (and the vocabulary is similarly voluminous), there being so many alternative rules, spellings, and words to those one might otherwise have considered the ultimate of their kind.]
+Marcomanseckisax Being in Virginia, I had no idea what chavesque meant and so necessarily spent the entire morning educating myself. We have the equivalent to chavs here, known as wiggers. Yes, that is a racist term but conveys quite a bit about the mannerisms and aspirations of a particular segment of the disaffected working class youth. (please note: If one searches the terms pornhub, chav and Burberry, an entire week could easily be frittered away.)
I have a soft spot for both authors, so I've always loved how much Doyle and Wilde admired each other despite them coming across as so different from one another. In his Memories and Adventures, Doyle talks about how fascinated he was with Wilde and his "delicacy of feeling and tact", his conversational skills and his sense of humor, and how "He towered above us all, and yet had the art of seeming to be interested in all that we could say". He also defended him on his trials, if I recall correctly.
Doubtless one reason why he was picked to play Oscar (opposite Jude Law as Bosie) in 1997's Wilde. If you've not seen it, find it, it is (for my money) the definitive film on Wilde, and Fry's performance will blow you away.
And isn't it an amazing synchronicity that Stephen Fry is available to play Oscar at a time when someone is needed to play him, that looks like him. They both have a deviated septum!
His audiobooks of Harry Potter were vastly superior to the guy who did the US ones. He paid attention to the dynamics in the text, and his voice is sublime.
I teach English in Chiang Mai and despite the enormous difficulties my students have with structure and vocabulary, Conan Doyle and "A Study in Scarlet" remains one of the most popular subjects my students prefer. Despite the dearth of film and other video sources for the critical 2nd book examples.
In fact Sherlock Holmes did not have quite such a noble brow . Moriarty remarked on meeting him that there was somewhat less prefrontal development than he had imagined . You could try this when you next meet your boss if you are looking for early retirement.
@Kris Moodley Well, it depends on which online historical inflation calculator you use, I suppose?... I've gotten various answers but the highest is around £12,000
SO MANY MANY THANKS. SENDING TO MY SONS AND HAVE MY DOYLE SHIELD OUTSIDE. ALSO OUR WRITERS. INCLUDING STEPHEN FRY! SO WRITTEN FORTUTUDINE VINCIT OUTSIDE AND IF LOCAL ITIES CANNOT MANAGE A BIT OF LATIN ... WELL
Very interesting EXCEPT FOR that annoying background music when Stephen is talking. Why do people do that, it makes it much harder to hear. We come for the talk, not someones idea of music.
I would enjoy seeing this entire show. I think I have read every Sherlock Holms story Doyle wrote. Do you think there is any chance of you loading the rest for those of us outside the original viewing area? Stephen Fry always seems to know the most wonderful things.
This video, to my Dutch eyes, seems so very Brittish. In all the positive ways. I think we Dutch sound like an uncivilized bunch of brutes next to this.
For a very interesting Detective series, read the series where Oscar plays a detective not unlike Holmes the first in that series is............... Oscar Wilde and A Death of No Importance by Gyles Daubeney Brandreth,
Forget Fry, it's only the dad from one of the best movies ever made that's beside him!!! I never knew he had such a strong accent, he really toned that down in Hope and Glory.
To show their universal appeal. In a way it's trying to illustrate Fry's point that he can't imagine a time when the Holmes stories won't be in print. He obviously can't demonstrate that they will survive into the future - but he can show that they obviously have survived 100 years or so since written and become enormously popular worldwide, transcending borders/cultures - which is a reasonable basis for assuming they will continue to appeal for a long time yet
what’s the comparable comparison today with that hundred pounds British sterling ? like how much would it be today , five thousand British pounds ? ten thousand British pounds ? sterling
Dennis Lewis, That would be an educated IRISH NATIONALIST, educated in Trinity College Dublin for 4 years and educated in Oxford for 4 years. You obviously seem to have forgotten that. Such a shame that you were so selective.
amadan9999 really? As a Brit, I can't say I've ever heard him described as anything other than Irish. A quick look at the top results of a google search "british poet oscar wilde" would suggest blame lies with our North American friends
Its really annoying how Connan is never described as Scottish or a Scotsman.... he's always described as "British" ....Oscar Wilde is at least given his nationality!
Fry is ok, likeable and affable enough. I am a little bored with the youtube fetishisation of him as if he is some kind of genius. It's mostly uneducated people who fall into this unfortunate and silly adoration. There are lots of educated, interesting people, including Fry, in this world. Please start reading books for yourself and start thinking for yourself. If you try, you will find you too can use language in perfectly apt and perfectly lively ways.
Nice, but absolutely uselessly non-informative....nothing about what was discussed or said at the meeting....the publisher's imput to the writers....especially, what they dined on....8 minutes of self-promotion....tsk, tsk...
Every time I see a video of Stephen Fry I am always impressed with his genuinely warm and welcoming demeanor. Not to mention his mastery of the English language. He comes across as a truly genuine soul who is not hiding an alterior motive and presents his true self. He is definitely in the top 3 list of people that I could invite for dinner, have a nice roaming chat and die knowing that I met one of the best and nicest people that has ever walked this earth.
Orion Fyre who's there with him, I wonder?!
Msr.Fyre, if you wish to mention a mastery of the English language, you might do well to know the spelling of that word were 'ulterior', not 'alterior', as in 'ultimate' and 'ultra', not 'alternative' and 'alternate', though both might derive of a similar source to an 'interior' or 'exterior'. [It is arguable whether anyone can have a mastery of the English language: the full grammar thereof, to be found of Oxford University library shelves, in volumes 15" high and 5" wide, takes up some 60' of space (and the vocabulary is similarly voluminous), there being so many alternative rules, spellings, and words to those one might otherwise have considered the ultimate of their kind.]
Stephen Faust lol
Did he write that ?
He does seem like that. Maybe have the dinner before you decide.
"What ineffable twaddle" shall be my retort to every assertion.
you might thereupon get your nose rearranged by the more chavesque amongst us
+Marcomanseckisax Being in Virginia, I had no idea what chavesque meant and so necessarily spent the entire morning educating myself. We have the equivalent to chavs here, known as wiggers. Yes, that is a racist term but conveys quite a bit about the mannerisms and aspirations of a particular segment of the disaffected working class youth. (please note: If one searches the terms pornhub, chav and Burberry, an entire week could easily be frittered away.)
chuck1prillaman Chav lads are my weakness.
@@1258-Eckhart haha
@@1258-Eckhart that word sounded so posh at first but, No.
Conan Doyle created a fictional character so powerful that more believe in Sherlock Holmes as real rather than imaginary. Truly timeless.
Not quite, stupid
@MichaelKingsfordGray true !
HE HAD TO EARN SOME REAL MONEY AS HIS MUM HAD BEEN SO BATTERED BY HIS FATHER AND DESPITE HIS WAR RECORDS ... NO REAL DOSH!
I love how bashful and genuine Stephen is you can tell he sincerely appreciates all the compliments because he admires the person they're coming from.
I have a soft spot for both authors, so I've always loved how much Doyle and Wilde admired each other despite them coming across as so different from one another. In his Memories and Adventures, Doyle talks about how fascinated he was with Wilde and his "delicacy of feeling and tact", his conversational skills and his sense of humor, and how "He towered above us all, and yet had the art of seeming to be interested in all that we could say". He also defended him on his trials, if I recall correctly.
Love the expression 'soft spot'
I was taken aback at the similarity of Steven's facial structure compared to Oscar Wilde's.
Doubtless one reason why he was picked to play Oscar (opposite Jude Law as Bosie) in 1997's Wilde. If you've not seen it, find it, it is (for my money) the definitive film on Wilde, and Fry's performance will blow you away.
@@terrystickland5770 good info thanks!
Terry Stickland I agree Terry! Loved the film.
Me too. Reincarnation?
And isn't it an amazing synchronicity that Stephen Fry is available to play Oscar at a time when someone is needed to play him, that looks like him.
They both have a deviated septum!
I, too, could listen to Stephen for days.
I have his narration for the entire Sherlock Holmes canon. His voice makes for a lovely listening experience.
I have him on audio reading THE LITTLE PRINCE...
His audiobooks of Harry Potter were vastly superior to the guy who did the US ones. He paid attention to the dynamics in the text, and his voice is sublime.
One of my favourite people talking about two of my favourite writers. A televisual feast!
Two of everybodys favourite writers
Shame David Hayman was there.
The second that they shot a glimpse of the Japanese editions of Sherlock Holmes. Yes, we love him here in Japan!
Stephen is always a pleasure to see.
Fry narrates the Sherlock Holmes series and The Sign of the Four was magnificent, just due to his narration, if nothing more. Love Fry.
So does he
"Stephen, I could listen to you for days"!
……….and only days not weeks lol......
Yes the one basic fact why Conan-doyle and Wilde clicked, they both had Irish roots
@yeah, right Wilde was born and raised in Ireland
I could listen to this conversation about SACD and Sherlock Holmes by Stephen Fry for days as well!!!
I'm so glad they decided to film this with a shaky camera, it really improves it and it doesn't annoy me at all.
If this video had been two hours long I don't think boredom would be an issue!
Holmes and Fry - What a delightful conversation! And Wilde! Oh, to be a fly on the wall at THAT meeting!
Stephen Fry has the same energy as Alan Rickman for some reason
He supports Palestinian child killers?
I could listen to Stephen for days as well. Then again, thanks to UA-cam, I kind of do. :)
I teach English in Chiang Mai and despite the enormous difficulties my students have with structure and vocabulary, Conan Doyle and "A Study in Scarlet" remains one of the most popular subjects my students prefer. Despite the dearth of film and other video sources for the critical 2nd book examples.
There's a Tibetan doctor who has written of Sherlock's adventures in Tibet as well. Jamyang Norbu. Great stories too.
Tim Collins this is a long shot but do you know an English teacher named Sean who is part Irish part Iranian?
he looks splendid here
wonderful warm person!! I love to listen to him...
STEPHEN FRY, JUST WONDERFUL!
In fact Sherlock Holmes did not have quite such a noble brow . Moriarty remarked on meeting him that there was somewhat less prefrontal development than he had imagined . You could try this when you next meet your boss if you are looking for early retirement.
Could it be that the professor was merely mocking him?
Wonderful visit here❤️ on my favorite detective Holmes.
Why isn't that conversation 4 hours long?
Precisely!
Would like to have heard about the eccentricities of Oscar Wilde at this meeting and Sir Arthur's opinions of him I must admit.
I'm sure it's been said 10,000 times before, but Stephen sure looks an awful lot like the older version of Oscar Wilde.
Yes - one of the few and one of the BEST. So very nicely done.
A wisp of Baudelaire? Great.
£100 in 1889 would be the equivalent of somewhere between £6000 & £6500 today!
@Kris Moodley Well, it depends on which online historical inflation calculator you use, I suppose?... I've gotten various answers but the highest is around £12,000
@Kris Moodley It certainly was.
SO MANY MANY THANKS. SENDING TO MY SONS AND HAVE MY DOYLE SHIELD OUTSIDE. ALSO OUR WRITERS. INCLUDING STEPHEN FRY! SO WRITTEN FORTUTUDINE VINCIT OUTSIDE AND IF LOCAL ITIES CANNOT MANAGE A BIT OF LATIN ... WELL
@4:15 fucking hell the resemblance really is uncanny.
I love Stephen Fry with all my heart.
100 pounds in 1889; that was a great deal of money
Very interesting EXCEPT FOR that annoying background music when Stephen is talking.
Why do people do that, it makes it much harder to hear.
We come for the talk, not someones idea of music.
Wonderful!
I would enjoy seeing this entire show. I think I have read every Sherlock Holms story Doyle wrote. Do you think there is any chance of you loading the rest for those of us outside the original viewing area? Stephen Fry always seems to know the most wonderful things.
This video, to my Dutch eyes, seems so very Brittish. In all the positive ways.
I think we Dutch sound like an uncivilized bunch of brutes next to this.
Our murder rate is much higher than yours.
also their combined Irish heritage
For a very interesting Detective series, read the series where Oscar plays a detective not unlike Holmes
the first in that series is...............
Oscar Wilde and A Death of No Importance
by Gyles Daubeney Brandreth,
Forget Fry, it's only the dad from one of the best movies ever made that's beside him!!!
I never knew he had such a strong accent, he really toned that down in Hope and Glory.
Yep --a real surprise. Don't like his politics though--don't like show biz people promoting their ideas and talking cobbler's either
I am kind of curious why the Sherlock Holmes books shown near the end were in Japanese.
To show their universal appeal. In a way it's trying to illustrate Fry's point that he can't imagine a time when the Holmes stories won't be in print. He obviously can't demonstrate that they will survive into the future - but he can show that they obviously have survived 100 years or so since written and become enormously popular worldwide, transcending borders/cultures - which is a reasonable basis for assuming they will continue to appeal for a long time yet
*Because the Japanese can't read English.*
Now that's how English is spoken... Not like us Italians 🤣🤣
Good chirp
Go to NYC or "Joisey" to hear Italians speak English.
I'm not too fond of native English speakers' Italian either.
cover of The Magicians there in the back. the tree
Stephen Fry is surprised that Conan Doyle liked Wilde. Perhaps it was because Conan Doyle was of Irish descent and Wilde was Irish.
what’s the comparable comparison today with that hundred pounds British sterling ? like how much would it be today , five thousand British pounds ? ten thousand British pounds ? sterling
I think I answered my own question, I believe it’s £3500
2:45 - Stephen
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle believed in fairies. Seriously.
Of course he did, having met the fabulous Oscar!
I'm ashamed I missed that
As did WB Yeats.
Are you sure? The literary Nobel prize winner and Irish senator?
He would have loved Stephen then
Here's a thought, Stephen Fry For PM?
Nice that Stephen emphasized that Wilde was an "Irishman" . All too often brits claim him as being "british"
Yes, he was an upper class Irishman -- educated in England. ;)
Dennis Lewis, That would be an educated IRISH NATIONALIST, educated in Trinity College Dublin for 4 years and educated in Oxford for 4 years.
You obviously seem to have forgotten that. Such a shame that you were so selective.
there there
Quite!
amadan9999 really? As a Brit, I can't say I've ever heard him described as anything other than Irish. A quick look at the top results of a google search "british poet oscar wilde" would suggest blame lies with our North American friends
An Irishman, a Scotsman and an American sit down to dinner in an English hotel....
sadly i think that day'll come for all things. 'least in the physical sense.
@MichaelKingsfordGray no, put irony first in all things, fullstop.
Well y
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Why are they holding those with their bare hands?!
Using gloves increases risk of tearing or mishandling pages.
Ryan Coulter - I know! So precious are those diaries, I literally cringed!
Its really annoying how Connan is never described as Scottish or a Scotsman.... he's always described as "British" ....Oscar Wilde is at least given his nationality!
Get a grip
wordy.
Fry is ok, likeable and affable enough. I am a little bored with the youtube fetishisation of him as if he is some kind of genius. It's mostly uneducated people who fall into this unfortunate and silly adoration. There are lots of educated, interesting people, including Fry, in this world. Please start reading books for yourself and start thinking for yourself. If you try, you will find you too can use language in perfectly apt and perfectly lively ways.
Nice, but absolutely uselessly non-informative....nothing about what was discussed or said at the meeting....the publisher's imput to the writers....especially, what they dined on....8 minutes of self-promotion....tsk, tsk...