Oh my goodness...the way he connected the chess and rice grains problem to the fact that we must all have been related just blew my mind!!!! This is a story worth repeating everywhere!!!! Hats off to you Mr. Fry...no wonder you played the perfect Jeeves 😁
Oh my goodness. He keeps complimenting us. “As you may already know”(history of chess) “as I am sure you know”(Farsi). And in that incredibly well educated and modulated voice. I feel more educated and intelligent just listening to him. I’ve never seen him do stand up before, but “as I’m sure you know” he’s very good.
Bit of a late reply but your comment reminded me of a "saying" I saw recently. Talking to a stupid person will make you feel smart. Talking to a smart person will make you feel dumb. Talking to a very smart person will make you feel smart. I don't think its much of a stretch to call Stephen Fry very smart.
@@Raycu2 fry is a good narrator with prepared stories.. when he talks about chess you can straight away know there's no depth, it is just skimmed hearsay. But he does put it together and tells a wonderful story.
@@omarkhan9695 He's certainly full of anecdotes and is a practiced speaker and presenter. He was a good (comic) actor in combination with Hugh Laurie, particularly in A Bit of Fry and Laurie and their version of Jeeves & Wooster. The only one of his novels I read was mediocre. Compared to his various peers from the 80s, however, there isn't much in the way of competition.
7.5 mins of Stephen Fry I thought would be reasonably long considering most yt videos I watch are about 2-3. Went by in a blink of an eye and I’m sad it’s over. Stephen is always totally engaging!!
@glyn hodges It is not liberalism to dress as you wish. It is what we are supposed to be able to do in Britain. The day I find my politicians telling me how to dress is the day I take up arms to stop paying them.
I feel so happy crushing that loser. It's easy but it's fun. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
Don't forget what a loser he is too. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
With our grammatical overlord Hitchens eternally enhancing medical science, it's important we maintain high standards in such matters... Not angry, just disappointed...
@@troymadison7082 Seneca had such a knack for teaching resignation and the simple life, accepting what you got...from a private landed estate where a hundred slaves jumped to do whatever he ordered.
@will crow would you still think so when being tortured to death? the pacifist turns the other cheek when his kids are being slaugtered, his wife is being raped and his house burned... its the modern over-moralisation that makes us weak, did others in the past what happened to them? they died, empires went under and the „weak" survived go your way loving all these oxymorons and ignore basic common sense. women dont need to have children, we are all individuals thus all the same - join our faith, not every muslim believes in islam and so on im just glad that we havent reached the point where there is no hope for humanity to get rid of these truly weak ideas and believes that kill us. do you want to conquer the universe or slowly go extinct, all working for a universal income ?
you know Stephen when you do this stuff, you are going to be praised for your intellect, but you also must realise that you will be criticised too, Im so glad you exist, youve bought so much humour and sensibility to all you do.
Interestingly, the parable about the exponentially increasing grains of rice Stephen mentions is also there in Bengali Literature (major Eastern Indian language). It was written by one of our greatest writers, Sukumar Ray, in the form of a children's story called "Daaner Hisheb" (literally- the calculations/records kept of charity). An extremely miserly king is tricked into being charitable to his suffering subjects by a sage, who tells him that he should pay a paisa (1/100th of one rupee, the equivalent of a penny or a cent) on the first day, then double the amount on every succeeding day. The King assumes as a knee jerk reaction that this would only come to a meagre amount, but it ultimately ends up costing him more than he owns. My father taught me my first arithmetics. He used to tell me the story when I was a kid to show me the magic of exponentials and geometric growth.
I’ve heard an euro-american variation of the story, but it was about a younger man conning an older billionaire by saying he’ll trade the billionaire 100k dollars a day for 30 days for 1 cent, 2 cents, 4 cents, 8 cents... until the 30 days were over. The mathematical results were similar, albeit not as astronomical as the original grains on chessboard one, which is actually exponential and will tally up to more grains than the current global agriculture can grow for millennia.
He is very well knowledged and wise. The history of chess and the Persian root for checkmate was wonderful! Awesome. He simply ruined racism. What a wonderful man.
He's a loser. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@2fast2block where did god come from? Who or what created him? No one you will say, he's always and will always be there. If you are so happy with this simpleton explanation, then why can't you believe that the universe also may have always been there? Just changing, evolving, morphing, creating and destructing what we know as the laws of nature without the need of any divine intervention? Don't be like the child who doesn't know where Christmas gifts and babies come from and is happy with the stork and Santa stories just because their little undeveloped minds can't think of or reason otherwise. I do believe in a god that is the universe itself, that changes and mutates, that creates and destroys with no conscious of what is doing whatsoever. One who doesn't need worshipping, who doesn't care about prayers, or the sins of the world, because he doesn't even care about us, we are just a happy accident of existence, who doesn't even care about itself because he's not even living, is just a thing, is just the universe and we happen to exist in it. That's it, that's all.
@@SergioCastillo87 loser, none of what you gave got around the science I gave. All you losers can do is come up with your stu---pid question that answers nothing but it does show how you losers hate to think. So in your way of shallow thinking, if a supernatural creator created the natural realm, then that supernatural creator who created the natural realm with its natural laws has then become also bound by those natural laws the supernatural creator created. So explain why a supernatural creator is also bound by the laws the supernatural creator created. Or, show how smart you are and just give your science for creation happening naturally and don't forget to give your science how the natural laws were created, too. If you want to act smart, it may be a good idea to actually show you are.
He's good at telling lies being the loser he is. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@TheHobbYT hey tiny brain, I gave a very small bit of science already that you keep on ignoring. Tackle and show us more how tiny your brain really is.
@AMT I'm sure he's happy to have fellow losers like you. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
The thing I will always remember Steven Fry for is playing Belgrove in a TV adaptation (BBC. surely) of the first two Gormenghast books. I didn't think it could be done, but.....You Britishers probably know what I'm talking about while Americans are scratching their heads. The books didn't travel across the pond well. Also, by far, Christopher Lee as Flay was THE best thing he ever did. The series was an obvious labor of love.
There’s a funny Comic Relief sketch about national treasures and he appears on it as a judge for new applicants: ua-cam.com/video/nJYE20cO8h0/v-deo.html
The 2018 world rice output was 480 million metric tonnes. The amount of rice required to meet the chess inventor's demands, according to Fry's story, would be 185 billion metric tonnes. Amazing, isn't it?
I’m a Christian and I enjoy listening to what Mr. Fry has to say, though I think he’s a little presumptuous, dismissive and overly simplistic in his approach to religion. He is still respectful and decent to the people he’s discussing with.
We know that we're all related. Of course, no dispute. But we are all also more related to certain groups of people than others, which have been isolated by geography and time, sometimes many thousands of years and this gives us distinguishable tribes and races.
It depends indeed on how far one wants to go back. Probability does not overcome geographical barriers on its own. There is not reason to assume south americans should have been closer related to europeans than by the people migrating there way before any english kings and no matter how many great grandpeople of them one would end up with. In the simplified version Fry presents here, it is a flawed assumption based on being bamboozeled by large numbers without understanding them.
That's just on square 64 (H8). And then you have to add the rice from square 63, and then the rice from square 62, and then from square 61, etc. I think it's more rice than grains of sand in the Sahara Desert.
A brilliant actor, a fascinating interpreter of humankind and of history. His role portraying Oscar Wilde was very much as I expected: Brilliant! Watching Stephen Fry, I am curious how a discussion of any subject between he and the extraordinary Peter Ustinov - should such a conversation exist, I would pay to watch it! I am pleased these two men are part of my lifetime.
Because you refuse to think too. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
The earliest Indian version of chess, regrettably, may have used dice too. It was also certainly around a LONG time before the "Moghuls" (who never called themselves that anyway). No disrespect to the great Mr Fry, who's always worth listening to.
I was disappointed by this rather sloppy research by Steven Fry especially as I enjoy listening to him and admire his intellect greatly. Perhaps his knowledge of Indian history only begins with the Muslim colonisers, the Mughals. I wonder how many other fake facts he's presented over the years which I have taken as sacrosanct thus far.
@@suen3634 You all seem to have missed the point - this is a well known parable that was created to explain exponentiality. It was not meant to be an accurate representation of the original creation of Chess.
3:26 For anyone interested, an alternative (and possibly more accurate) translation is "the King is helpless" Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate#Etymology
My Professor of American Literature at the University of Amsterdam Harold L. Beaver had the same gift of the gab, and his unstoppable mind would literally take us on a trip through European history - I remember a particularly inspiring riff on why Tintin could be considered a literary comic strip.
@@FrankieParadiso4evah Could you briefly share with us on behalf of Professor Beaver why he riffed on Tintin being considered a literary comic strip? Just out of curiosity. :)
@@manvirsahota5310 Mind you, this was three and a half decades ago, but I recall that HB was especially impressed by the way Herge kept the storyline of The Castafiore Emerald going without anything significant happening (which reminded him of French experimental novelists such as Perec and Robbe-Grillet), Tintin's Melvillean mission to decipher the evil world around him, and the human condition of stubbornly coping with failure as symbolized by Haddock, Thomson & Thompson and Professor Calculus. But then Beaver was the type of academic who would remind a student who spilled coffee on his professorial desk that this was reminiscent of a homo-erotic scene in Moby-Dick! Here's more on Tintin's literary merits fyi: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2006/jul/16/booksforchildrenandteenagers.features
@Gillie Monger Yes and gay still means happy, literally still means "as it's written", flirt means a sharp movement, myriad still refers to the number 10,000 and terrific means to inspire terror. Words change as language does. Loquacious can have a negative meaning but it can also mean to be able to speak well and effectively. So do us all a favor and stop being the Anglo-Norman meaning of "nice".
It's an uncomfortable topic because it undoes who we think we are at a fundamental level. It's a comforting solution to hear we aren't alone in this. Stephen Frye has a beautiful mind
no it doesn't. You can use his same argument for us to not care for our species more than other species. In fact the argument would be stronger since the shared ancestry with have compared to different species than different races is much larger and much less known.
If you want to see the math: (Assuming 1 generation = 25 years) 30 generations ago (c. 1250AD) you had over 1 billion ancestors vs. global population of 500 million, meaning that statistically you're probably related to everyone alive back then, twice over (they appear in your family tree twice) 40 generations ago (1000AD) over 1 trillion ancestors. Related to every human alive 000s of times over 50 generations (750) over 1 quadrillion ancestors. Related to everyone millions of times. 60 generations (500) over 1 quintillion ancestors. Related to every single human alive BILLIONS of times over.
That's not accounting for geographical lock-downs, I'm pretty sure I've got to go more than 30 generations to find relations with Australian aboriginals but yes, eventually it all evens out if you go far back enough.
Too bad your conclusions are wrong and genetic distance can be measured. That is like saying if you go back far enough you are related to the chicken on your salad. Different group of people are different and everyone knows and accepts this except Whites. But hey, if no one is different and everyone is related why make all those special "assistance" programs and then discriminate on who can use or benefit from them. Especially when it's the global minority discriminating against themselves in their own country.
@@elliotkouame3849 : Facts are racism and if you say facts I will insult you like a child I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to speak up on the internet. Perhaps you are also comfortable enough to educate yourself on the subjects you speak on? Try it. Knowledge is power after all.
No, he's a complete loser. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@2fast2block Only mindless people use the supernatural as an argument. At least learn the difference between reality and fantasy before making such idiotic arguments in the future.
I think he's underestimating how common it was to marry 2nd cousins, and how unlikely it is you would know if you're marrying a fourth or fifth removed cousin
If you like being lied to. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
Only to his fellow losers he can. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
Haha, quite true! I wonder what the critical amount of having one ancestor appearing in more that one familial stream is. There must be a level beyond which problems start to manifest.
No, what a loser. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
We're all humans! There's only one race! THE HUMAN RACE! I remember a program about DNA where 4 people were interviewed and DNA tested. An Irishman, an African man, an Asian woman and an Englishman. It was discovered that the Englishman and the African man had common ancestral DNA. The African man saw the joke and leaned to the Englishman saying "Brother".
During the last ice age, the earth was frozen almost to the equator. The only human beings that could have survived it were those who lived on or very close to the equator. It is a dreadful fact for racists to have to discover that we are all descended from those black people.
I caught Stephen Fry checking me out on the streets on Notting Hill when I was younger. I recognised him but didn't know what a wonderful, kind, thoughtful, brave man he was. Biggest regret of my life is not responding to his wandering eye.
Well there is a bit of a problem with Stephen’s example of the exponential increase in our ancestors, which is that he is calculating as you go back in time, each preceding generation gave you twice as many ancestors as the succeeding generation. This is literally impossible since otherwise the number of ancestors would be tending towards infinity as you go back further in time (or if you go forward in time, it would suggest the number of descendants is halving each generation, which would mean eventually we would be down to one person and then zero, since an individual cannot procreate by themselves). The problem is, of course, that this assumes each ancestor is a distinct person, when at some points, many points in fact, we must have had ancestors that produced more than one, and in fact many more than one of our later ancestors. Stephen kind of gets at the problem when he says “unless there was incest” in his family. Of course it need not be incest. I could have had a great, great, great grandparent, for instance, that was a great, great grandparent to both my mother and father, without having married someone of a very small number of degrees of consanguinity that might therefore be considered incest. That does not mean we are not all descended from Charlemagne, but the idea that a person had more ancestors than existed in all of Europe is not a proof that we are so descended. In fact, taken further, Stephen’s “proof” would prove that we had more ancestors at a far enough distant generation than existed people on the earth at the time, which is obviously impossible. Which is not to say the general idea Stephen poses is invalid. We are indeed ignorant of our heritage and very likely all related to each other (at some possible quite distant degree of consanguinity), and therefore it is nonsensical to treat others as somehow less worthy of consideration and respect and love based on their heritage. And moreover, I hope somehow I am closely related to Stephen since he is a marvelous human being.
He obviously knows all this, his message is of unity and brotherhood. His idea can be put another way: If we were able to travel in time, the further back we go, the more likely we will meet one ancestor.
@Marcus This is an excellent point, Marcus, but I think Scandinavia is a bit unusual in that respect, and of course further afield Iceland is I think the most highly related (which is why that population is so useful for genetic studies). In the UK for example, we have the influence of various invasions, mostly Norman, but also the odd Viking ;)
Fry screws up from the start, creation, and he's all downhill from there. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
You completely missed the point. He’s delineating the problem with the exponential nature of ancestry without common ancestry, which gives you completely unrealistic figures - the only way to reconcile these figures and make them more manageable is by accepting that our ever-branching trees intersect many times over. Hence, we are all statistically likely to be direct descendants of someone living as recently as in the 9th century.
The version i heard once concerning chess origin: Indian rulers invented it loving the game of war without any unnecessary decorum. The theory being enough.
Tanks “A “ times 2!l am an old guy who has always Loved mathematics.It explains everything, never thought about it in this way.Cheers ,Peace to all me related family ✌️”A”
The exponential number of connexions increases, while the number of humans decreases as we go back in time. What does this mean for these mathematical calculations?
That they are wrong. At some point people were mating with far relatives going back in time and that solves it. So you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 grand-grandparents and so on but at some point the genealogy lines start to cross and my grandgrandgrandgrandgrandparent was the brother of another of my grandgrandgrandgrandgrandparent
It means that his whole speech is gibberish. No goal other than to condition westerners for the great replacement, because how can a race be systematically replaced if there are no races to begin with?
@@TristanSune the wrongness of the math calculation does not cancel the fact that there are no races, and the whole concept of 'race' has been introduced only to sow differences among men and keep power..
its well worth learning to play chess. I have a top of the range gaming system yet the most enjoyable game for me right now that i play on it is chess.
Anybody wondering about the rice problem... It's an exponential series: 1+2^2+2^3+2^4+............+2^63. The number of rice grains on the 64th square will be 2^63. I calculated it and it comes to almost 267.5 trillion(=267.5 x 10^12) individual rice grains. Now, the weight of a rice grain is approximately 0.029 grams. Do the math and it turns to be around 7.75 billion tons!
That explanation was similar to a proof on one of my university math exams. Seems to make sense until you realise that there are a few holes in it which lead to the wrong outcome. Negating race because we are distantly related does not make sense because human evolution into the vastly varying races has clearly overtaken the rate at which traits are inherited. Otherwise people in Africa would look as similar to me as my neighbour does here in Belgium. Discrimination based on race may be immoral but recognising racial differences certainly isn't.
Arguing from the desired result, putting the cart before the horse, begging the question, using cicular logic, etc. The thing about mathematical proofs is that they are rigorous. If something is proven not to be the case, there is no way to find a counterexample, even though human intuition would suggest otherwise. You start with the desired conclusion that there must be races, and dismiss out of hand proof to the contrary. Supporting evidence does not change that your desired conclusion is really an assumption that you should question. And it does not help that your supporting evidence is demonstrably false: Evolution has not outpaced evolution. There is more variety between your Belgian neighbours than between them and Africans. Speciation has not occured. Your assumption has no support beyond wishful thinking. While that is enough to dismiss it as unsubstatiated, it is only empirical. The mathematical proof goes further. If you were not related, however distantly, to every other human, your ancestors at any time before a couple of generations ago alone would exceed the number of humans at any time. That is impossible. Therefore it is impossible to prove racism in any way. But of course that won't stop people from trying. There are also people trying to square the circle or solve the halting problem. There are probably people looking for the biggest prime number as well.
I always thought the rice thing was from Maco Polo? but it is true that if you do 1 x 2 x 2 x 2 and so-on by the time you hit the 20th move the numbers won't fit your calculator.
I need help, please, clever internet people: I once saw a video of him talking about the same topics (exponential growth / the invention of chess / relations) but much more elaborate, e.g. him explaining the reaction of the moghuls advisors in much more detail, how they started to calculate and the inventor (described as an old man) first inviting the moghul to play and the moghul then, once he understood, that he could never fullfill the inventor's wish "reacting like any calm and civilised ruler should - he chopped of his head". Stephen also said more on the topic of us all being related. The speech was held in a kind of arena, with him walking around. It ended with "So, all I really wanted to say was - hello, brothers and sisters!". It cannot find the longer version again, but I' d really love to show to my students. Can anybody help?
Dr Alice Roberts did a BBC series on this question of how we got here - the Incredible Human Journey. People need know that we are all from the same place with the same genetics. Skin colour look etc are all variations of climate and choice. We need to stop the racist nonsense. We have one planet and one race and we need to take care of both by cooperation not disintegration.
Well, no. There area localised populations with traits that are more similar than they are with external groups. The mistake we've made is thinking that you can take a couple of signifiers ( skin colour, nose shape) and apply it to everyone who shares those traits, even if their population is from a completely different area. There's a reason that Ashkenazi Jewish people are susceptible to Tay-Sachs disease; that people in many parts of Asia are not lactase retentant and that people from northern Europe gain weight more easily. The fact that the ethnic genetic similarities are a very small part of the genome does not mean that they don't exist or that they can't be predictive. The problem comes when you think you know something about someone's character, views and intelligence without actually talking to them first, and the conflation of culture with race, as if they were the same thing.
"People need know that we are all from the same place with the same genetics." - that's about opposite of the reality. See: infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/01/no-scientific-basis-for-race.html
@@tSp289 Your conclusion is strange considering it is well understood that policy is based upon people, not individuals, and that you acknowledge groups of people are different. Purposefully ignoring that difference to feel good is exactly why the pathway to hell is paved with "good intentions". You might want to look into the subject more as a persons political attitudes, viewpoints, etc., and be predicted via their genetics. Or did you swallow the lie that culture and genetics not connected in any way?
@@hahahano2796 Most of the time, you CAN predict how people will be, at least on a surface level. From my studies and consultative in-depth sales job at an airport, I've got to the point where I can make snap judgements about people based on their outward signifiers and be right most of the time. I knew if a flight was coming in from Tel Aviv it was going to be a bad day for sales. I knew if a young Asian man came in wearing a Mercedes hat, he was going to smell of weed and be dodgy as fuck. I could spot the dependency-society locals before they got two steps inside the door, and knew they were going to try to get things they didn't earn by being obnoxious and entitled. All the same, while I could spot them and be right 90% of the time, I was dead wrong several times every day. I learned that the stereotypes are based on truth but that every single one of them is wrong a for a large part of the time so you'd be stupid to base policy on generalisations without giving the individual the benefit of the doubt. Even among my colleagues, there was a Muslim man whose political views and conspiracy-theory beliefs would put him on watchlists in many countries, but who was also a kind, generous and decent guy who managed to be philosophical about the way he thought the world was, and would always offer me - a white, open atheist - a lift if I was stuck at the end of a long shift. There was a Sikh girl who was the most openly racist person I've ever known, calling Pakistani people 'fucking Pakis' and refusing to eat anything that was halal. This same girl was also really friendly and genuinely quite sweet, even to her muslim colleagues. When you look a bit deeper, you find there's more to people than their stereotypes. It became clear she was just a really fearful person: terrified of crime, believing bullshit urban myths, hating the idea of muslim men 'stealing' white and Sikh girls by marrying them. It didn't make her a bad person, though a lot of her views came from her Sikh background. There are many more examples I could bring up - a black boy I knew raised in an all-white town who didn't even really realise he was black until people from cities started treating him differently, at which point he felt rejected and latched on to 'black British' urban culture as a defence mechanism. Where there are genetic traits associated with ethnicities, you should always realise that individual variance of intelligence and thought is going to be much wider than the small influence those traits have, and that culture, identity and the desire to belong to a group are far more powerful determinants of how people behave.
No. A college that has SAT-score requirements is discriminating. And certainly, intelligence, behavior, interests, tastes, etc, are the result of biology(IE genetics). There are a million reasons to discriminate, especially against idiots.
@@benjaminkriesfeld3578"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved." - Jesse Jackson
@@duxnihilo and you refuse to think.... "An idea is always a generalization, and generalization is a property of thinking. To generalize means to think" - Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Oh my dear Stephen, we might don't know individually each of our ancestors but that is why we have the study of DNA. And, yes we might all be connected if we go back to the ice age but since then we have multiplied, covered new lands and created new communities, new cultures and our new mixtures created new facial characteristics or even skin pigmentation. All these we call our differences and these differences are what make our planet beautiful. And mind you, none of this differences are better than any other. They are just different. I'm sure even you, when you hear of Japan, a certain facial look comes to your mind, when you hear of Sweden, you probably think of a tall, blonde person or when you hear of a Nigerian a certain look comes to your mind. You don't need to know the complete series of their ancestors to do that, do you? If we were all the same then we wouldn't have the beautifully harmonic sounds and bright colours of Africa, we wouldn't have the progress and logic of Europe, we wouldn't have the smells and tastes of the east (Asia). The world would be of one boring colour, the one which printers call 18% GREY! The whole world would be a boring place that all beings eat MacDonald and listen to Britney Spears... and even dressed at Zara. So, to all my leftist so called progressive friends, this grey world is not progress is it? We can not make believe that differences don't exist or worst, destroy our differences hoping to eliminate national or community quarrels. This is idiotic! This issue is so elementary as the question on the value of knife. Yes, that topic that we all had to write an essay about at least once in our lives.
@@plowenson its a estimate, you assume the average weight of a grain of rice which doesn't deviate that much from each other and multiply it by 2^64. It just gives you a rough understanding of how much rice he asked for
@@gregoridester9648 sure. But you know there are different types of rice? Some may be double the size.. If you know exactly what kind of rice, then sure. I'd probably weigh a hundred grains or so then go up rather than weighing one grain. Too much of an error margin. You already know the total sum.
@@plowenson as i said its an estimate, to show how crazy the amount of rice he wants. No ones stopping you from calculating it yourself. At the end of the day you will get what he got, which is a absurd amount of rice.
We had a YT discussion on who should replace Paxman on University Challenge. What's needed is someone who's very knowledgeable and authoritative but also witty and agreeable. Only one person...
You do realize, I hope, that the UC quiz-masters have the answers on cue-cards. They do not have the answers in their own heads. And is there not a basically faulty logic in play here? That is, highly educated people acquire a lot of general knowledge, but memorizing a lot of disjointed facts does not make one 'educated'. One winner of Mastermind was deemed to be 'unemployable'. Also, why does knowing a few facts about a wide range of subjects earn titles like Mastermind, while knowing 'everything' about one topic makes one 'an anorak' or 'nerd' or Nobel laureate? Think on't.
What a wonderful story about the history of chess. It turned out to be a great trip down memory lane. I still have an old photo of my father with the Shah of Iran.
I used to play a lot of chess. It teaches many things. One of the things it teaches is reality. You can't pretend to have the upper hand when you clearly don't. You have to go with what the real situation is. Fry never learned that lesson and is happy to be delusional. "The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@2fast2block Hmm, 🤔 it seems you are suggesting that I am a mindless person. That would only be possible if we were aggregates of mindless matter, but it is actually a contradiction in terms, since we exist as smaller, limited minds within the infinite mind of God. As the physicist Sir James Jeans put it: the universe is beginning to look more like a great thought. You are quite right in your assessment that the idea that the universe just popped into existence and generated natural laws through random processes and chance conjunctions of dead matter is science fiction. I would go so far as to suggest that it is a credulous belief in magic; an unacknowledged belief system that begins with a miracle and then attempts to explain this miraculous existence through the clouded lens of its own misguided point of view. Unfortunately, we are awash in a sea of materialism which is the water in which we are now swimming, beyond which most are either unable or unwilling to see. Secular humanism makes man the measure of all things, and the maker of meaning in a meaningless universe. This is not only an impossible task, but a form of spiritual solipsism that is a starvation of the soul, and has resulted in the crisis of meaning in which we now find ourselves. Secular humanism, with its belief in physical materialism, is a dead end. Check mate. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed Fry’s observations on chess.
In Persian the Chess is Shatrange , and Shahmat is “ Kishomat “ means , what you say ShahMat means. In hebrew , the chess go under name of ShahMat, and Pa’arsi not Faarsi ( arabic phonetics), was written in Aramaic for two and a half millennia , and thats how you got with Aramaic version. Same as the “arabic numbers” are Hindu, and Arabs got totally different numbers. Shatrange means King’s men. In sanscrite it is Chaturanga. First brought to Persia in times of Sasanidaes
@@bloopblooper490 It is well accepted now that chess that we play today came from India. China has a variant which again derived from Indian chess but is very different.
Chess derived from the Indian game chaturanga sometime before the 7th century. Chaturanga is also the likely ancestor of the Eastern strategy games xiangqi (Chinese chess), janggi (Korean chess), and shogi (Japanese chess). Chess reached Europe by the 9th century, due to the Umayyad conquest of Hispania. The pieces assumed their current powers in Spain in the late 15th century; the modern rules were standardized in the 19th century.
Really? You admire perverts and petty criminals? Don't forget that they gave Jimmy Savile an honorary doctorate and a knighthood. These people 'hide in plain sight'.
As well intended as these statements were, many of them were factually wrong. There is a great likelihood that none of your ancestors was among the European survivors of the Ice Age. It would have been right to say that your ancestors were part of the few thousand modern humans surviving the Toba volcano eruption halfway into the Weichselian glaciation, and probably part of a population of Neanderthals inhabiting the Fertile Crescent area where that population had passed through. The DNA of the Ötztal Ice Mummy shows that he has no living relatives sharing either his maternal or his paternal peculiarities. Populations die out or are replaced, and even if they contribute somewhat to the genome, that contribution can be bred out of the descendants through selection of random meiosis distribution, so it is possible that there are living modern humans who do share ancestry with direct ancestors of the mummy, or are descendants of the mummy himself, but if that's the case, any genetic contribution of his failed to make it to the individuals. Likewise, according to the ancient DNA methods of the Pääbo team, it is highly unlikely that any of the western Neanderthal population has any descendants among modern humans. Lineages do die out. By the same logic, there are good chances that two modern humans whose ancestors left Africa meet whose last common ancestor lived at the time of or before the Toba eruption. There is only a one in three chance that a modern German or French is descended from Charlemagne (who was quite blessed with the number of direct descendants). There is zero chance that you are descended from Queen Elizabeth the first, and descent from her father should be a lot more seldom than one in three, too. "On average" is a far cry from "in actuality". There are no living descendants of T. Rex, but there are billions of living descendants of some of his ancestors - the modern birds. That said, genetic ancestry doesn't matter that much. Memetic ancestry has been a lot more poignant in these matters. The US definition of "people of color" ("not a single drop of blood") probably applies to more of their deemed "caucasian" population. I've met a guy with Danish-Mexican ancestry who has a hard time when mingling with the Mexican side of his family because he doesn't fit in optically, being a gringo, at least until he opens his mouth speaking Spanish. Speaking American English, no trace of that that I as a non-native speaker could discern. For myself, the only non-European ancestry I can hope for in historical time appears to be through a Hungarian great-great-great-grandmother, and that's going back to the Magyar takeover of the Danubian basin, or possibly Mongol interaction with some of my possible Baltic or Danubian ancestors - most of my East Prussian ancestors appear to have migrated there only with the acquisition of the land by the Brandenburg Hohenzollern dynasty in the beginnin of the 18th century. The Saracen incursion into the Alps happened too far to the west, and may have been with few Arabic-descended converts. Several of my traceable ancestors came from places in the Roman Empire (Gallia, Noricum) which makes some admixture of non-European auxilia (e.g. Sarmatians) going native possible, and there is of course the Diaspora to factor in. Due to the unfortunate political circumstances of last century's dictatorship over here, I have documentation that tells me otherwise for the last few generations, however. Whether the documented ancestors were my biological ancestors is another uncertainty to be taken into account, but I fear I won't be able to trace any such incident, if there was one, to non-European ancestry.
Yes... We are all just connecting through a thousand people since the Ice Age. Somehow a couple hundred surivived on each continent and magically found each other there, and in just a few millenia we are somehow 7 billion people. Santa Claus is also a real character who's immortal and lives in the North Pole.
It's funny because it's differente from version I knew about the origin of chess. Same thing, bored king, actually, he was depressed, because he had just lost his only son in combat. In a big state of depression, the king didn't want anything with anyone. But then there comes this peasant wanting to show him a game. The king learned and played with other wise man of the castle. He was so good and challenge the inventor to a game. The pieces had some differences, the bishop was an elephant(this change would only get later on when it got to medieval Europe), and the queen was a prince, young and thriving through the board. Anyway, it got to a certain point where the king had to make a sacrifice of his own prince, in order for the greater good. After that undeniable evidence, he felt as he was cured from the depression. The inventor asked for a reward and same way Fry told (with powers of 2). EXCEPT, the king didn't cut his head off. After that smart move and put himself in so much debt. He hired him as his counselor and, after he was dead, since there were no heir, the inventor of chess became king. I know it is a bit farfetched, but it is a nice story, I like to tell it. I know there is little evidence and it is probably didn't happen, but, oh wel... Thing is, he was talking about heritage and such, I thought he was going to mention the story of the origin of chess as a reminder that we can still influence History even though it is not through our blood line.
@@dlugi4198 no not you I mean in general I can hazard a good guess, however when something is not said phonetically shit can get complex just popped in my head when I seen your comment, im sure a linguistics specialist might be able to ... intact now I have written phonetically I think i might have (very stupidly) answered my own question. I'm going to blame it on being up too late last night lmao Good hustle my man :)
Stephen is an incredibly interesting human being. He is erudite, modest and has a brilliant mind. We are lucky to share the planet with him.
Oh my goodness...the way he connected the chess and rice grains problem to the fact that we must all have been related just blew my mind!!!! This is a story worth repeating everywhere!!!! Hats off to you Mr. Fry...no wonder you played the perfect Jeeves 😁
Oh my goodness. He keeps complimenting us. “As you may already know”(history of chess) “as I am sure you know”(Farsi). And in that incredibly well educated and modulated voice. I feel more educated and intelligent just listening to him. I’ve never seen him do stand up before, but “as I’m sure you know” he’s very good.
Bit of a late reply but your comment reminded me of a "saying" I saw recently.
Talking to a stupid person will make you feel smart.
Talking to a smart person will make you feel dumb.
Talking to a very smart person will make you feel smart.
I don't think its much of a stretch to call Stephen Fry very smart.
check out a bit of fry and laurie
Check out his 'More Fool Me' live show. Brilliant. Hilarious. Thought provoking.
@@Raycu2 fry is a good narrator with prepared stories.. when he talks about chess you can straight away know there's no depth, it is just skimmed hearsay. But he does put it together and tells a wonderful story.
@@omarkhan9695 He's certainly full of anecdotes and is a practiced speaker and presenter. He was a good (comic) actor in combination with Hugh Laurie, particularly in A Bit of Fry and Laurie and their version of Jeeves & Wooster. The only one of his novels I read was mediocre. Compared to his various peers from the 80s, however, there isn't much in the way of competition.
7.5 mins of Stephen Fry I thought would be reasonably long considering most yt videos I watch are about 2-3. Went by in a blink of an eye and I’m sad it’s over. Stephen is always totally engaging!!
Look up the QI episodes, then.
I feel lucky to be in concurrent lives with people like Stephen Fry.
I think this everytime i hear him open his mouth. How the hell was i this lucky? lolol
@glyn hodges It is not liberalism to dress as you wish. It is what we are supposed to be able to do in Britain. The day I find my politicians telling me how to dress is the day I take up arms to stop paying them.
@glyn hodges Actually it only becomes a crime if someone complains *and* the police follow it up.
i concur
I feel so happy crushing that loser. It's easy but it's fun.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
Humour and intelligence is such a winning combination.
And decency.
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You think Galileo would've been spared what he went through if humor was part of his 'repartee'
Don't forget what a loser he is too.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
Only Stephen Fry could say "a thirty twoth" and not sound stupid.
But it didn't get the laugh intended.
@@BKKaye No one seemed to notice. I was floored by that.
Surely the correct pronunciation would be thirty tweeth... Come come Stephen...
@@jamesluby6705 You would argue with Stephen Fry? Come, come, James!
With our grammatical overlord Hitchens eternally enhancing medical science, it's important we maintain high standards in such matters... Not angry, just disappointed...
'all cruelty comes from weakness.' -Seneca said this and it's so true. I think Stephen is spot on.
Well said and well quoted my well read friend...cheers!
@@troymadison7082 Seneca had such a knack for teaching resignation and the simple life, accepting what you got...from a private landed estate where a hundred slaves jumped to do whatever he ordered.
@will crow
would you still think so when being tortured to death?
the pacifist turns the other cheek when his kids are being slaugtered, his wife is being raped and his house burned...
its the modern over-moralisation that makes us weak, did others in the past
what happened to them? they died, empires went under and the „weak" survived
go your way loving all these oxymorons and ignore basic common sense.
women dont need to have children, we are all individuals thus all the same - join our faith, not every muslim believes in islam and so on
im just glad that we havent reached the point where there is no hope for humanity to get rid of these truly weak ideas and believes that kill us.
do you want to conquer the universe or slowly go extinct, all working for a universal income ?
@@kloschuessel773 threaten someone else with torture, you only prove the point with this conceit.
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strawman, mr methhead
you know Stephen when you do this stuff, you are going to be praised for your intellect, but you also must realise that you will be criticised too, Im so glad you exist, youve bought so much humour and sensibility to all you do.
Interestingly, the parable about the exponentially increasing grains of rice Stephen mentions is also there in Bengali Literature (major Eastern Indian language). It was written by one of our greatest writers, Sukumar Ray, in the form of a children's story called "Daaner Hisheb" (literally- the calculations/records kept of charity). An extremely miserly king is tricked into being charitable to his suffering subjects by a sage, who tells him that he should pay a paisa (1/100th of one rupee, the equivalent of a penny or a cent) on the first day, then double the amount on every succeeding day. The King assumes as a knee jerk reaction that this would only come to a meagre amount, but it ultimately ends up costing him more than he owns.
My father taught me my first arithmetics. He used to tell me the story when I was a kid to show me the magic of exponentials and geometric growth.
I’ve heard an euro-american variation of the story, but it was about a younger man conning an older billionaire by saying he’ll trade the billionaire 100k dollars a day for 30 days for 1 cent, 2 cents, 4 cents, 8 cents... until the 30 days were over. The mathematical results were similar, albeit not as astronomical as the original grains on chessboard one, which is actually exponential and will tally up to more grains than the current global agriculture can grow for millennia.
he is the cool high school teacher for grown ups.
He was a school teacher once
He is very well knowledged and wise. The history of chess and the Persian root for checkmate was wonderful! Awesome.
He simply ruined racism. What a wonderful man.
He's a loser.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@2fast2block where did god come from? Who or what created him? No one you will say, he's always and will always be there. If you are so happy with this simpleton explanation, then why can't you believe that the universe also may have always been there? Just changing, evolving, morphing, creating and destructing what we know as the laws of nature without the need of any divine intervention? Don't be like the child who doesn't know where Christmas gifts and babies come from and is happy with the stork and Santa stories just because their little undeveloped minds can't think of or reason otherwise. I do believe in a god that is the universe itself, that changes and mutates, that creates and destroys with no conscious of what is doing whatsoever. One who doesn't need worshipping, who doesn't care about prayers, or the sins of the world, because he doesn't even care about us, we are just a happy accident of existence, who doesn't even care about itself because he's not even living, is just a thing, is just the universe and we happen to exist in it. That's it, that's all.
@@SergioCastillo87 loser, none of what you gave got around the science I gave. All you losers can do is come up with your stu---pid question that answers nothing but it does show how you losers hate to think.
So in your way of shallow thinking, if a supernatural creator created the natural realm, then that supernatural creator who created the natural realm with its natural laws has then become also bound by those natural laws the supernatural creator created. So explain why a supernatural creator is also bound by the laws the supernatural creator created. Or, show how smart you are and just give your science for creation happening naturally and don't forget to give your science how the natural laws were created, too. If you want to act smart, it may be a good idea to actually show you are.
Mr. Fry is an amazing Gentelman. Love him.
I wish he were my Dad
exactly )
Stephen, please take good care of yourself and keep telling us more and more interesting things!
He's good at telling lies being the loser he is.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@TheHobbYT you can just say you're another clueless being like Fry who hates facing reality because you just showed you do.
@@TheHobbYT hey tiny brain, I gave a very small bit of science already that you keep on ignoring. Tackle and show us more how tiny your brain really is.
What a man! Love this guy with all my heart
@AMT I'm sure he's happy to have fellow losers like you.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
The thing I will always remember Steven Fry for is playing Belgrove in a TV adaptation (BBC. surely) of the first two Gormenghast books. I didn't think it could be done, but.....You Britishers probably know what I'm talking about while Americans are scratching their heads. The books didn't travel across the pond well. Also, by far, Christopher Lee as Flay was THE best thing he ever did. The series was an obvious labor of love.
I have read the book series, but had no idea it had an adaptation. Professor Belgrove definitely looked like Fry when I pictured him.
National treasure. He hates being called that too lol
That’s probably because national treasures end up in the Tower of London.
I don't like him
Why do you say he's a treasure?
There’s a funny Comic Relief sketch about national treasures and he appears on it as a judge for new applicants: ua-cam.com/video/nJYE20cO8h0/v-deo.html
The 2018 world rice output was 480 million metric tonnes. The amount of rice required to meet the chess inventor's demands, according to Fry's story, would be 185 billion metric tonnes. Amazing, isn't it?
He should have asked for lentils.
@@zalibecquerel3463 Blue whales!
Smarties!!
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@@zalibecquerel3463 lentils! lentils are good....no offence rice
I love him, and my god am I in need of adult conversation.
That is why American's don't understand him.
discussing ideas instead of yelling at each other. Good God man this is 2018.
Steven Colbare
fuck off
Thank you @Khasab. I guess, Stephen would like you simply for that comment. At least, I do. Fuck off, @Steven Colbare.
I’m a Christian and I enjoy listening to what Mr. Fry has to say, though I think he’s a little presumptuous, dismissive and overly simplistic in his approach to religion. He is still respectful and decent to the people he’s discussing with.
I am anxiously waiting for Holiday gifts from all my relatives!
We know that we're all related. Of course, no dispute. But we are all also more related to certain groups of people than others, which have been isolated by geography and time, sometimes many thousands of years and this gives us distinguishable tribes and races.
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Tribes, as in nations? No. Many of today's nations are not that old and the ones that are ancient are by far the most mixed.
It depends indeed on how far one wants to go back. Probability does not overcome geographical barriers on its own. There is not reason to assume south americans should have been closer related to europeans than by the people migrating there way before any english kings and no matter how many great grandpeople of them one would end up with. In the simplified version Fry presents here, it is a flawed assumption based on being bamboozeled by large numbers without understanding them.
5:40 It is *STILL* more rice than has ever existed.
That's just on square 64 (H8). And then you have to add the rice from square 63, and then the rice from square 62, and then from square 61, etc.
I think it's more rice than grains of sand in the Sahara Desert.
A brilliant actor, a fascinating interpreter of humankind and of history. His role portraying Oscar Wilde was very much as I expected: Brilliant! Watching Stephen Fry, I am curious how a discussion of any subject between he and the extraordinary Peter Ustinov - should such a conversation exist, I would pay to watch it! I am pleased these two men are part of my lifetime.
damn - the video ended. I was enjoying that. He has a knack for making me drift on a wave of piqued interest. Wonderful oratory voice and delivery.
If I were allowed to meet anyone in history, it would be Mr. Fry.
Stephen Fry.....A British National Treasure.
I would argue that Stephen Fry is a treasure of Earth. Probably one of the 10 living humans I would include on an extra-terrestrial ambassador team.
An Earth National Treasure! ;)
Can't get enough Stephen Fry
Because you refuse to think too.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
Ironically I can actually name my 8 great grandparents, and my 16 great great grandparents.... but it took a fair amount of research
I can name 6 of the 8. And a few great-greats on my mom's side. My uncle has done a lot of work on their maternal grandfather's family tree.
Ironically? I think not.
His Pronunciation of Word "Shah" is very accurate according to Urdu, Farsi accents
of course it's accurate, he's Stephen Fry
Stephen Fry is one of those guys/gals who can hold forth for an hour and I'd be happy just to listen to whatever he had to say
The earliest Indian version of chess, regrettably, may have used dice too. It was also certainly around a LONG time before the "Moghuls" (who never called themselves that anyway). No disrespect to the great Mr Fry, who's always worth listening to.
I was disappointed by this rather sloppy research by Steven Fry especially as I enjoy listening to him and admire his intellect greatly. Perhaps his knowledge of Indian history only begins with the Muslim colonisers, the Mughals. I wonder how many other fake facts he's presented over the years which I have taken as sacrosanct thus far.
daarrkmatter
Ah, yes. Jews are the only people who like to tell embellished stories.
@@suen3634 You all seem to have missed the point - this is a well known parable that was created to explain exponentiality.
It was not meant to be an accurate representation of the original creation of Chess.
@@VestigialHead I think it is similar to hindu numerals. Arabs learnt from Indians, Europeans learnt from Arabs.
The Roman count system had no zero. The Arab system does.
3:26 For anyone interested, an alternative (and possibly more accurate) translation is "the King is helpless"
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate#Etymology
Stephen Fry is so loquacious that he could make an unremarkable conversation seem like the most interesting thing possible.
My Professor of American Literature at the University of Amsterdam Harold L. Beaver had the same gift of the gab, and his unstoppable mind would literally take us on a trip through European history - I remember a particularly inspiring riff on why Tintin could be considered a literary comic strip.
@@FrankieParadiso4evah Could you briefly share with us on behalf of Professor Beaver why he riffed on Tintin being considered a literary comic strip? Just out of curiosity. :)
@@manvirsahota5310 Mind you, this was three and a half decades ago, but I recall that HB was especially impressed by the way Herge kept the storyline of The Castafiore Emerald going without anything significant happening (which reminded him of French experimental novelists such as Perec and Robbe-Grillet), Tintin's Melvillean mission to decipher the evil world around him, and the human condition of stubbornly coping with failure as symbolized by Haddock, Thomson & Thompson and Professor Calculus. But then Beaver was the type of academic who would remind a student who spilled coffee on his professorial desk that this was reminiscent of a homo-erotic scene in Moby-Dick! Here's more on Tintin's literary merits fyi: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2006/jul/16/booksforchildrenandteenagers.features
@@FrankieParadiso4evah That's brilliant, thank you.
@Gillie Monger Yes and gay still means happy, literally still means "as it's written", flirt means a sharp movement, myriad still refers to the number 10,000 and terrific means to inspire terror.
Words change as language does. Loquacious can have a negative meaning but it can also mean to be able to speak well and effectively.
So do us all a favor and stop being the Anglo-Norman meaning of "nice".
It's an uncomfortable topic because it undoes who we think we are at a fundamental level. It's a comforting solution to hear we aren't alone in this. Stephen Frye has a beautiful mind
This speech shows clearly that there is but one race, The Human Race.
And NASCAR
@jutubaeh what language is that?
I agree with your sentiment, but we are one species. Not one race.
@@stephanberger3476 saying one race rather that one species is just saying it in the common lsnguage.
no it doesn't. You can use his same argument for us to not care for our species more than other species. In fact the argument would be stronger since the shared ancestry with have compared to different species than different races is much larger and much less known.
If you want to see the math:
(Assuming 1 generation = 25 years)
30 generations ago (c. 1250AD) you had over 1 billion ancestors vs. global population of 500 million, meaning that statistically you're probably related to everyone alive back then, twice over (they appear in your family tree twice)
40 generations ago (1000AD) over 1 trillion ancestors. Related to every human alive 000s of times over
50 generations (750) over 1 quadrillion ancestors. Related to everyone millions of times.
60 generations (500) over 1 quintillion ancestors. Related to every single human alive BILLIONS of times over.
That's not accounting for geographical lock-downs, I'm pretty sure I've got to go more than 30 generations to find relations with Australian aboriginals but yes, eventually it all evens out if you go far back enough.
Too bad your conclusions are wrong and genetic distance can be measured. That is like saying if you go back far enough you are related to the chicken on your salad. Different group of people are different and everyone knows and accepts this except Whites.
But hey, if no one is different and everyone is related why make all those special "assistance" programs and then discriminate on who can use or benefit from them. Especially when it's the global minority discriminating against themselves in their own country.
hahaha no but, you *are* related to the chicken in your salad.
Also, that is just blatant racism.
@@elliotkouame3849 : Facts are racism and if you say facts I will insult you like a child
I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to speak up on the internet. Perhaps you are also comfortable enough to educate yourself on the subjects you speak on? Try it. Knowledge is power after all.
hahaha no no, your comment about white people is racist.
If anyone needs educating here, it is you. On how to communicate in English.
What a great example of why i love to listen to the amazing intelect of Stephan Fry,....what a great thinker ala Aristotle is in reality.
No, he's a complete loser.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
@@2fast2block Only mindless people use the supernatural as an argument. At least learn the difference between reality and fantasy before making such idiotic arguments in the future.
In Armenian we call chess շախմատ (shakhmat), I had no idea it meant "the king is dead" in Farsi.
And the Persians we're the original Aryans.
In Polish is szach mat which sounds exactly how Stephen pronounced death of Shah in Farsi.
I think he's underestimating how common it was to marry 2nd cousins, and how unlikely it is you would know if you're marrying a fourth or fifth removed cousin
Stephen Fry is always such a pleasure to listen to!
If you like being lied to.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
He could talk about anything and still captivate, entertain and educate an audience.
Only to his fellow losers he can.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
That’s amazing
Absolutely brilliant, should be shown in schools, viewpoints and attitudes not that common in our over hyped bullshit culture..
30tooth, waits for chuckle, waits for it, gives up....
In actual fact the ancestors that we have (in the sense of 'got our dna from') go a long way back but aren't very numerous.
Haha, quite true! I wonder what the critical amount of having one ancestor appearing in more that one familial stream is. There must be a level beyond which problems start to manifest.
Wouldn't be the man I am today without Stephen.
What a legend
No, what a loser.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
We're all humans! There's only one race! THE HUMAN RACE! I remember a program about DNA where 4 people were interviewed and DNA tested. An Irishman, an African man, an Asian woman and an Englishman. It was discovered that the Englishman and the African man had common ancestral DNA. The African man saw the joke and leaned to the Englishman saying "Brother".
Huemans and Captain Caaaaavemaaaan
During the last ice age, the earth was frozen almost to the equator. The only human beings that could have survived it were those who lived on or very close to the equator. It is a dreadful fact for racists to have to discover that we are all descended from those black people.
@swamidude I'm not racist but... ;p jk very good point very well made
You have common ancestral DNA with every organism on the planet.
I caught Stephen Fry checking me out on the streets on Notting Hill when I was younger. I recognised him but didn't know what a wonderful, kind, thoughtful, brave man he was. Biggest regret of my life is not responding to his wandering eye.
How old were you at that time?
@@garrysmodsketches too young. 17. He likes them young
Got cut off abruptly while talking about Ice Age survivors; isn't the entire speech online?
ua-cam.com/video/fH6RRzHLfVI/v-deo.html
I love the way he constantly says “I’m sure you all know”
Where can I find the full show. It's brilliant
The most complete human being I've ever known.
Nah, just a humanist with speaking talent. See: infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/11/european-genetic-substructure.html
The rice thing is easy: just tell the guy that it's all good, but he has to stack the rice himself on the actual chess squares.
Well, I'm delighted to say that once again Stephen has taught me something
Well there is a bit of a problem with Stephen’s example of the exponential increase in our ancestors, which is that he is calculating as you go back in time, each preceding generation gave you twice as many ancestors as the succeeding generation. This is literally impossible since otherwise the number of ancestors would be tending towards infinity as you go back further in time (or if you go forward in time, it would suggest the number of descendants is halving each generation, which would mean eventually we would be down to one person and then zero, since an individual cannot procreate by themselves). The problem is, of course, that this assumes each ancestor is a distinct person, when at some points, many points in fact, we must have had ancestors that produced more than one, and in fact many more than one of our later ancestors. Stephen kind of gets at the problem when he says “unless there was incest” in his family. Of course it need not be incest. I could have had a great, great, great grandparent, for instance, that was a great, great grandparent to both my mother and father, without having married someone of a very small number of degrees of consanguinity that might therefore be considered incest. That does not mean we are not all descended from Charlemagne, but the idea that a person had more ancestors than existed in all of Europe is not a proof that we are so descended. In fact, taken further, Stephen’s “proof” would prove that we had more ancestors at a far enough distant generation than existed people on the earth at the time, which is obviously impossible. Which is not to say the general idea Stephen poses is invalid. We are indeed ignorant of our heritage and very likely all related to each other (at some possible quite distant degree of consanguinity), and therefore it is nonsensical to treat others as somehow less worthy of consideration and respect and love based on their heritage. And moreover, I hope somehow I am closely related to Stephen since he is a marvelous human being.
He obviously knows all this, his message is of unity and brotherhood. His idea can be put another way: If we were able to travel in time, the further back we go, the more likely we will meet one ancestor.
@Marcus This is an excellent point, Marcus, but I think Scandinavia is a bit unusual in that respect, and of course further afield Iceland is I think the most highly related (which is why that population is so useful for genetic studies).
In the UK for example, we have the influence of various invasions, mostly Norman, but also the odd Viking ;)
Fry screws up from the start, creation, and he's all downhill from there.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
@Gillie Monger somehow to loser you, that made sense in your delusional world.
You completely missed the point. He’s delineating the problem with the exponential nature of ancestry without common ancestry, which gives you completely unrealistic figures - the only way to reconcile these figures and make them more manageable is by accepting that our ever-branching trees intersect many times over. Hence, we are all statistically likely to be direct descendants of someone living as recently as in the 9th century.
The version i heard once concerning chess origin:
Indian rulers invented it loving the game of war without any unnecessary decorum.
The theory being enough.
Tanks “A “ times 2!l am an old guy who has always Loved mathematics.It explains everything, never thought about it in this way.Cheers ,Peace to all me related family ✌️”A”
I love Stephen Fry!
The exponential number of connexions increases, while the number of humans decreases as we go back in time. What does this mean for these mathematical calculations?
That they are wrong. At some point people were mating with far relatives going back in time and that solves it. So you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 grand-grandparents and so on but at some point the genealogy lines start to cross and my grandgrandgrandgrandgrandparent was the brother of another of my grandgrandgrandgrandgrandparent
It means that his whole speech is gibberish. No goal other than to condition westerners for the great replacement, because how can a race be systematically replaced if there are no races to begin with?
@@TristanSune the wrongness of the math calculation does not cancel the fact that there are no races, and the whole concept of 'race' has been introduced only to sow differences among men and keep power..
its well worth learning to play chess. I have a top of the range gaming system yet the most enjoyable game for me right now that i play on it is chess.
Anybody wondering about the rice problem...
It's an exponential series: 1+2^2+2^3+2^4+............+2^63. The number of rice grains on the 64th square will be 2^63. I calculated it and it comes to almost 267.5 trillion(=267.5 x 10^12) individual rice grains. Now, the weight of a rice grain is approximately 0.029 grams. Do the math and it turns to be around 7.75 billion tons!
That explanation was similar to a proof on one of my university math exams. Seems to make sense until you realise that there are a few holes in it which lead to the wrong outcome. Negating race because we are distantly related does not make sense because human evolution into the vastly varying races has clearly overtaken the rate at which traits are inherited. Otherwise people in Africa would look as similar to me as my neighbour does here in Belgium.
Discrimination based on race may be immoral but recognising racial differences certainly isn't.
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This speech is just conditioning and programming. No basis in logic or truth.
Arguing from the desired result, putting the cart before the horse, begging the question, using cicular logic, etc.
The thing about mathematical proofs is that they are rigorous. If something is proven not to be the case, there is no way to find a counterexample, even though human intuition would suggest otherwise.
You start with the desired conclusion that there must be races, and dismiss out of hand proof to the contrary.
Supporting evidence does not change that your desired conclusion is really an assumption that you should question.
And it does not help that your supporting evidence is demonstrably false: Evolution has not outpaced evolution.
There is more variety between your Belgian neighbours than between them and Africans. Speciation has not occured.
Your assumption has no support beyond wishful thinking. While that is enough to dismiss it as unsubstatiated, it is only empirical.
The mathematical proof goes further. If you were not related, however distantly, to every other human, your ancestors at any time before a couple of generations ago alone would exceed the number of humans at any time. That is impossible. Therefore it is impossible to prove racism in any way.
But of course that won't stop people from trying. There are also people trying to square the circle or solve the halting problem. There are probably people looking for the biggest prime number as well.
I always thought the rice thing was from Maco Polo?
but it is true that if you do 1 x 2 x 2 x 2 and so-on by the time you hit the 20th move the numbers won't fit your calculator.
It's almost 267.5 trillion rice grains!
One of his ancestors could have been named Melchett, I suppose...
I love Stephen, I can listen to him forever; he should be worshipped now not after he has passed away . celebrate the man!
"An eighth, a sixteenth, a thirty - twoth..." Never a clever word spoken lol
While I do not necessarily agree with everything he said, I will absolutely give him full credit for being a Very Intelligent man. Very.
It's been a week or so, I don't remember now...
wow,amazing how many don't understand the word supposedly.
I need help, please, clever internet people: I once saw a video of him talking about the same topics (exponential growth / the invention of chess / relations) but much more elaborate, e.g. him explaining the reaction of the moghuls advisors in much more detail, how they started to calculate and the inventor (described as an old man) first inviting the moghul to play and the moghul then, once he understood, that he could never fullfill the inventor's wish "reacting like any calm and civilised ruler should - he chopped of his head". Stephen also said more on the topic of us all being related. The speech was held in a kind of arena, with him walking around. It ended with "So, all I really wanted to say was - hello, brothers and sisters!". It cannot find the longer version again, but I' d really love to show to my students. Can anybody help?
Dr Alice Roberts did a BBC series on this question of how we got here - the Incredible Human Journey. People need know that we are all from the same place with the same genetics. Skin colour look etc are all variations of climate and choice. We need to stop the racist nonsense. We have one planet and one race and we need to take care of both by cooperation not disintegration.
Well, no. There area localised populations with traits that are more similar than they are with external groups. The mistake we've made is thinking that you can take a couple of signifiers ( skin colour, nose shape) and apply it to everyone who shares those traits, even if their population is from a completely different area. There's a reason that Ashkenazi Jewish people are susceptible to Tay-Sachs disease; that people in many parts of Asia are not lactase retentant and that people from northern Europe gain weight more easily. The fact that the ethnic genetic similarities are a very small part of the genome does not mean that they don't exist or that they can't be predictive. The problem comes when you think you know something about someone's character, views and intelligence without actually talking to them first, and the conflation of culture with race, as if they were the same thing.
"People need know that we are all from the same place with the same genetics." - that's about opposite of the reality. See: infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/01/no-scientific-basis-for-race.html
@@silentbob5566 Not if Fry was speaking of pre-Australopithecus. Or if referring to the primordial ooze that would become a dividing cell.
@@tSp289 Your conclusion is strange considering it is well understood that policy is based upon people, not individuals, and that you acknowledge groups of people are different. Purposefully ignoring that difference to feel good is exactly why the pathway to hell is paved with "good intentions".
You might want to look into the subject more as a persons political attitudes, viewpoints, etc., and be predicted via their genetics. Or did you swallow the lie that culture and genetics not connected in any way?
@@hahahano2796 Most of the time, you CAN predict how people will be, at least on a surface level. From my studies and consultative in-depth sales job at an airport, I've got to the point where I can make snap judgements about people based on their outward signifiers and be right most of the time. I knew if a flight was coming in from Tel Aviv it was going to be a bad day for sales. I knew if a young Asian man came in wearing a Mercedes hat, he was going to smell of weed and be dodgy as fuck. I could spot the dependency-society locals before they got two steps inside the door, and knew they were going to try to get things they didn't earn by being obnoxious and entitled. All the same, while I could spot them and be right 90% of the time, I was dead wrong several times every day. I learned that the stereotypes are based on truth but that every single one of them is wrong a for a large part of the time so you'd be stupid to base policy on generalisations without giving the individual the benefit of the doubt.
Even among my colleagues, there was a Muslim man whose political views and conspiracy-theory beliefs would put him on watchlists in many countries, but who was also a kind, generous and decent guy who managed to be philosophical about the way he thought the world was, and would always offer me - a white, open atheist - a lift if I was stuck at the end of a long shift. There was a Sikh girl who was the most openly racist person I've ever known, calling Pakistani people 'fucking Pakis' and refusing to eat anything that was halal. This same girl was also really friendly and genuinely quite sweet, even to her muslim colleagues. When you look a bit deeper, you find there's more to people than their stereotypes. It became clear she was just a really fearful person: terrified of crime, believing bullshit urban myths, hating the idea of muslim men 'stealing' white and Sikh girls by marrying them. It didn't make her a bad person, though a lot of her views came from her Sikh background.
There are many more examples I could bring up - a black boy I knew raised in an all-white town who didn't even really realise he was black until people from cities started treating him differently, at which point he felt rejected and latched on to 'black British' urban culture as a defence mechanism.
Where there are genetic traits associated with ethnicities, you should always realise that individual variance of intelligence and thought is going to be much wider than the small influence those traits have, and that culture, identity and the desire to belong to a group are far more powerful determinants of how people behave.
I love you, Stephen Fry. The world is a better place because of you. xx
Thanks to you
Makes any form of discrimination a wee bit silly then, dunnit?
No. A college that has SAT-score requirements is discriminating. And certainly, intelligence, behavior, interests, tastes, etc, are the result of biology(IE genetics). There are a million reasons to discriminate, especially against idiots.
@@RBurns80 None of those are reasons to discriminate. Unless you choose for them to be.
@@benjaminkriesfeld3578"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved." - Jesse Jackson
@@RBurns80 Wow! You're so dull!
@@duxnihilo and you refuse to think.... "An idea is always a generalization, and generalization is a property of thinking. To generalize means to think" - Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
At 4:00 he refers to the Persian empire as the Mughal empire ... A completely different Empire based in the Indian Subcontinent.
I made this same case to my Harvard, West Point business lawyer uncle and it kinda freaked him out once he thought about it for a couple of minutes.
We are one family! Nice video, I like Fry, he’s cool!
I would love to sit with him and talk grat man
Perhaps the only true International Treasure, Mr. Stephen Fry.
I c oud listen to Stephen Fry on any subject
Oh my dear Stephen, we might don't know individually each of our ancestors but that is why we have the study of DNA.
And, yes we might all be connected if we go back to the ice age but since then we have multiplied, covered new lands and created new communities, new cultures and our new mixtures created new facial characteristics or even skin pigmentation. All these we call our differences and these differences are what make our planet beautiful. And mind you, none of this differences are better than any other. They are just different.
I'm sure even you, when you hear of Japan, a certain facial look comes to your mind, when you hear of Sweden, you probably think of a tall, blonde person or when you hear of a Nigerian a certain look comes to your mind. You don't need to know the complete series of their ancestors to do that, do you?
If we were all the same then we wouldn't have the beautifully harmonic sounds and bright colours of Africa, we wouldn't have the progress and logic of Europe, we wouldn't have the smells and tastes of the east (Asia). The world would be of one boring colour, the one which printers call 18% GREY! The whole world would be a boring place that all beings eat MacDonald and listen to Britney Spears... and even dressed at Zara.
So, to all my leftist so called progressive friends, this grey world is not progress is it?
We can not make believe that differences don't exist or worst, destroy our differences hoping to eliminate national or community quarrels. This is idiotic! This issue is so elementary as the question on the value of knife. Yes, that topic that we all had to write an essay about at least once in our lives.
Talk about completely missing the point
He is a brilliant funny and totally relevant gentleman.
18,446,744,073,709,551,616 grains of rice if anyone is wondering
The chess inventor from the story asked for over 813 trillion pounds of rice.
How you got the pounds? Did you assume what kind of rice they were talking about? All rice doesn't weigh the same..
@@plowenson its a estimate, you assume the average weight of a grain of rice which doesn't deviate that much from each other and multiply it by 2^64. It just gives you a rough understanding of how much rice he asked for
@@gregoridester9648 sure. But you know there are different types of rice? Some may be double the size.. If you know exactly what kind of rice, then sure. I'd probably weigh a hundred grains or so then go up rather than weighing one grain. Too much of an error margin. You already know the total sum.
In metric please..
@@plowenson as i said its an estimate, to show how crazy the amount of rice he wants. No ones stopping you from calculating it yourself. At the end of the day you will get what he got, which is a absurd amount of rice.
I love that outfit ❤️ and that cute little tiny bow!
32th? I excuse you, Mr Fry, just because you're my favorite... :D
I just watch a video of Stephen about 'what makes us human'. Oh guardian of language 😂
We had a YT discussion on who should replace Paxman on University Challenge. What's needed is someone who's very knowledgeable and authoritative but also witty and agreeable. Only one person...
You do realize, I hope, that the UC quiz-masters have the answers on cue-cards. They do not have the answers in their own heads. And is there not a basically faulty logic in play here? That is, highly educated people acquire a lot of general knowledge, but memorizing a lot of disjointed facts does not make one 'educated'. One winner of Mastermind was deemed to be 'unemployable'. Also, why does knowing a few facts about a wide range of subjects earn titles like Mastermind, while knowing 'everything' about one topic makes one 'an anorak' or 'nerd' or Nobel laureate? Think on't.
An amazing description of "chess"
It's said that we were around 10 000 peoples maximum on the planet at a time,so it's quite easy to have a common ancestor.
@daAnder71 www.quora.com/What-is-the-plural-form-of-people
“don’t have time for anything, i am rush, i.........” fry: “it all starte......” me “im gonna sit down and listen to this man”
Stephen Fry is one of the best and most intelligent communicators in the world.
Note: the number of rice grains would be 2^63. [Square 1 is 2^0=1]
Pretty sure it's a sum of all those so it's 2^64 - 1 :)
What a wonderful story about the history of chess. It turned out to be a great trip down memory lane. I still have an old photo of my father with the Shah of Iran.
I used to play a lot of chess. It teaches many things. One of the things it teaches is reality. You can't pretend to have the upper hand when you clearly don't. You have to go with what the real situation is. Fry never learned that lesson and is happy to be delusional.
"The humanist view of the meaning of life is different. Humanists do not see that there is any obvious purpose to the universe, but that it is a natural phenomenon with no design behind it. Meaning is not something out there, waiting to be discovered, but something we create in our own lives." Stephen Fry
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
Only mindless people believe Fry.
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Hmm, 🤔 it seems you are suggesting that I am a mindless person. That would only be possible if we were aggregates of mindless matter, but it is actually a contradiction in terms, since we exist as smaller, limited minds within the infinite mind of God.
As the physicist Sir James Jeans put it: the universe is beginning to look more like a great thought.
You are quite right in your assessment that the idea that the universe just popped into existence and generated natural laws through random processes and chance conjunctions of dead matter is science fiction.
I would go so far as to suggest that it is a credulous belief in magic; an unacknowledged belief system that begins with a miracle and then attempts to explain this miraculous existence through the clouded lens of its own misguided point of view.
Unfortunately, we are awash in a sea of materialism which is the water in which we are now swimming, beyond which most are either unable or unwilling to see.
Secular humanism makes man the measure of all things, and the maker of meaning in a meaningless universe. This is not only an impossible task, but a form of spiritual solipsism that is a starvation of the soul, and has resulted in the crisis of meaning in which we now find ourselves.
Secular humanism, with its belief in physical materialism, is a dead end. Check mate.
Nevertheless, I still enjoyed Fry’s observations on chess.
In Persian the Chess is Shatrange , and Shahmat is “ Kishomat “ means , what you say ShahMat means. In hebrew , the chess go under name of ShahMat, and Pa’arsi not Faarsi ( arabic phonetics), was written in Aramaic for two and a half millennia , and thats how you got with Aramaic version. Same as the “arabic numbers” are Hindu, and Arabs got totally different numbers. Shatrange means King’s men. In sanscrite it is Chaturanga. First brought to Persia in times of Sasanidaes
So many people in the comments missing the point
Thought the same myself
a fine and perfectly applicable self description
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First Indian mogul emperor lived only 500 years ago, chess predates him by at least 1000 years.
@@tormentor6737 how very rude. Your handle on history is skewiff anyway...
Chess came from China, so it's Mr Fry"s!
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@@bloopblooper490 It is well accepted now that chess that we play today came from India. China has a variant which again derived from Indian chess but is very different.
Chess derived from the Indian game chaturanga sometime before the 7th century. Chaturanga is also the likely ancestor of the Eastern strategy games xiangqi (Chinese chess), janggi (Korean chess), and shogi (Japanese chess). Chess reached Europe by the 9th century, due to the Umayyad conquest of Hispania. The pieces assumed their current powers in Spain in the late 15th century; the modern rules were standardized in the 19th century.
@@bloopblooper490 , I guess you got chess jumbled up with go.
I'm happy to watch him and still adore his Genius
Really? You admire perverts and petty criminals? Don't forget that they gave Jimmy Savile an honorary doctorate and a knighthood. These people 'hide in plain sight'.
As well intended as these statements were, many of them were factually wrong. There is a great likelihood that none of your ancestors was among the European survivors of the Ice Age. It would have been right to say that your ancestors were part of the few thousand modern humans surviving the Toba volcano eruption halfway into the Weichselian glaciation, and probably part of a population of Neanderthals inhabiting the Fertile Crescent area where that population had passed through.
The DNA of the Ötztal Ice Mummy shows that he has no living relatives sharing either his maternal or his paternal peculiarities. Populations die out or are replaced, and even if they contribute somewhat to the genome, that contribution can be bred out of the descendants through selection of random meiosis distribution, so it is possible that there are living modern humans who do share ancestry with direct ancestors of the mummy, or are descendants of the mummy himself, but if that's the case, any genetic contribution of his failed to make it to the individuals.
Likewise, according to the ancient DNA methods of the Pääbo team, it is highly unlikely that any of the western Neanderthal population has any descendants among modern humans. Lineages do die out.
By the same logic, there are good chances that two modern humans whose ancestors left Africa meet whose last common ancestor lived at the time of or before the Toba eruption. There is only a one in three chance that a modern German or French is descended from Charlemagne (who was quite blessed with the number of direct descendants). There is zero chance that you are descended from Queen Elizabeth the first, and descent from her father should be a lot more seldom than one in three, too.
"On average" is a far cry from "in actuality". There are no living descendants of T. Rex, but there are billions of living descendants of some of his ancestors - the modern birds.
That said, genetic ancestry doesn't matter that much. Memetic ancestry has been a lot more poignant in these matters. The US definition of "people of color" ("not a single drop of blood") probably applies to more of their deemed "caucasian" population. I've met a guy with Danish-Mexican ancestry who has a hard time when mingling with the Mexican side of his family because he doesn't fit in optically, being a gringo, at least until he opens his mouth speaking Spanish. Speaking American English, no trace of that that I as a non-native speaker could discern.
For myself, the only non-European ancestry I can hope for in historical time appears to be through a Hungarian great-great-great-grandmother, and that's going back to the Magyar takeover of the Danubian basin, or possibly Mongol interaction with some of my possible Baltic or Danubian ancestors - most of my East Prussian ancestors appear to have migrated there only with the acquisition of the land by the Brandenburg Hohenzollern dynasty in the beginnin of the 18th century. The Saracen incursion into the Alps happened too far to the west, and may have been with few Arabic-descended converts.
Several of my traceable ancestors came from places in the Roman Empire (Gallia, Noricum) which makes some admixture of non-European auxilia (e.g. Sarmatians) going native possible, and there is of course the Diaspora to factor in. Due to the unfortunate political circumstances of last century's dictatorship over here, I have documentation that tells me otherwise for the last few generations, however. Whether the documented ancestors were my biological ancestors is another uncertainty to be taken into account, but I fear I won't be able to trace any such incident, if there was one, to non-European ancestry.
Was looking for this. Thanks.
Nerd
I can only name 4 of my great-grandparents. Not too bad, since my generation is now the oldest one in our extended family.
Best of luck to those people who will try to ignore this story to maintain their comfortable illusions about race and religion.
Yes... We are all just connecting through a thousand people since the Ice Age. Somehow a couple hundred surivived on each continent and magically found each other there, and in just a few millenia we are somehow 7 billion people.
Santa Claus is also a real character who's immortal and lives in the North Pole.
@@TristanSune you built up a straw man and then broke it down. What a waste of time.
It's funny because it's differente from version I knew about the origin of chess.
Same thing, bored king, actually, he was depressed, because he had just lost his only son in combat.
In a big state of depression, the king didn't want anything with anyone. But then there comes this peasant wanting to show him a game.
The king learned and played with other wise man of the castle. He was so good and challenge the inventor to a game. The pieces had some differences, the bishop was an elephant(this change would only get later on when it got to medieval Europe), and the queen was a prince, young and thriving through the board.
Anyway, it got to a certain point where the king had to make a sacrifice of his own prince, in order for the greater good.
After that undeniable evidence, he felt as he was cured from the depression.
The inventor asked for a reward and same way Fry told (with powers of 2).
EXCEPT, the king didn't cut his head off. After that smart move and put himself in so much debt. He hired him as his counselor and, after he was dead, since there were no heir, the inventor of chess became king.
I know it is a bit farfetched, but it is a nice story, I like to tell it. I know there is little evidence and it is probably didn't happen, but, oh wel...
Thing is, he was talking about heritage and such, I thought he was going to mention the story of the origin of chess as a reminder that we can still influence History even though it is not through our blood line.
In my language checkmate is litterally pronounced shachmat.
Farsi?
The King is Dead
Mine is skák mát
Can you spell pronunciations? True question.
@@christaylor9674 apperently I cannot
@@dlugi4198 no not you I mean in general I can hazard a good guess, however when something is not said phonetically shit can get complex just popped in my head when I seen your comment, im sure a linguistics specialist might be able to ... intact now I have written phonetically I think i might have (very stupidly) answered my own question.
I'm going to blame it on being up too late last night lmao
Good hustle my man :)