Normally, I hate to see a film before reading the book it is based off of. With Rebecca, though, it was different. Surprisingly, when I realized that there was a "Rebecca" book, and I read it, I was really happy that I'd seen the movie first! :) Joan and Laurence and the others had all done such a wonderful job in the film, that I loved being able to picture them as the characters while reading the book. (And it's such a wonderful book, too... :) )
@rosesfororion oh yes, indeed. Judith Anderson was a class actress of her time. I've just seen her in great roles, like Big Momma in the film Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
True, in the book she's said to have straight hair, so she wears a wig to get those perfect ringlets. It's also true that a whole night has passed when she arrives to the beach. In the book it's a much longer time, though.
Yes she did. She says so in the book and the book is the original thing, not the movie. She raised her and moved with her to Manderely when Rebecca wed Maxim.
In the musical as well, (or at least in our Hungarian version) Rebecca fell and hit her head while having a quarrell with Maxim - Max pushed her, she hit her head and died. (there is a song where Maxim tells the story) But in the book, Max shot her.
Great scene from s great movie. Mrs Danvers is played by Judith Anderson. She was originally an Australian and I can detect a faint trace of Australian intonation in her voice. Without her malicious and menacing role, Rebecca would not have been as great as it is.
Naturally, she loved Rebecca because she stood for everything she couldn't. We never get to see Rebecca in person, we only know her through the words and acts of others. So we can't really judge her then. She- like many other "horrible" characters in movies, could very well be misunderstood.
The writer, sympathized with Rebecca, she said so once herslef. But aside from the characters we get to know, everyone else "loved Rebecca". The writer does not have to write another book to follow Rebecca just to get her point across. It's left up to the reader to concluded what her or she thinks Rebecca was like.
@toothbrush55 They changed the ending for the movie because at the time Hollywood couldn't show a murderer not being pusnished for the crime. I always felt that the second Mrs De Winter for all her meekness felt elated that her husband hated Rebecca enough to kill her. Then there was no doubt and also knowing the secret gave her finally some power in a relationship where she had had none previously.
@TheOobster He liked everybody to call him "Larry." He probably said what he did because if he'd said "this is Larry in the penthouse," nobody would have known who was speaking.
If thats the woman who played Mrs Danvers, Absolutely. She is chilling and I hate her. Brilliant acting. I cant stand what she done to the new Mrs De Winter. She is so unbelievably nice and sweet.
Mrs. Danvers is under the belief that Rebecca had Drowned and that Maxim was terribly in love with Rebecca "night after night, walking up and down"-- when it turned out the "walking up and down" was Maxim pacing in delirium after he murdered Rebecca. Danvers was neurotic, but she was keeping maxim faithful and devoted to his first wife. But is he to be doomed to a life of misery all alone?
@TheMoodyGuru You're in for a treat, because I think you'll like those movies I mentioned. I bought The Innocents and The Legend of Hell House through Amazon. I bought The Changeling at FYE. I'll check out Theatre of Blood. Thanks for the recommendation.
@TheMoodyGuru I agree. Mrs. Dudley is spooky/creepy, but she does smile at one point in the movie. I don't think Mrs. Danvers smiles ever. I watch The Haunting with the lights out, also. I also watch The Innocents (1961), The Changeling (1980), and The Legend of Hell House (1973) with the lights out. All are great movies. Have you seen them?
You think so? I think she's misunderstood. She brought up Rebecca since she was a child, she was like a mother to her. And it hurts her to see someone else take her place. In the book she's much more emotional and cries at least three times. If we heard the story through her persepctive, perhaps we'd think differently of her.
The only point of view of Rebecca we really know in detail, is Maxim's. We see Rebecca through mainly his eyes, to him Rebecca was a monster. To Mrs. Danvers, Rebecca was someone to look up to. Rebecca had good qualities too- she was a leader, she was smart, independant, stylish, charming, funny, and very organized. If you think about it, she was everything Mrs. Danvers wasn't. Mrs. Danvers was dull, plain, unattractive, and not funny or charming.
@brgvt97 Oh definitely Danvers! She gives me goosebumps. I think you could easily bamboozle Mrs Dudley, she doesn't strike me as the scheming type. The Haunting is one of my all time favourite films, it still scares me to this day. I like to watch it alone very late at night with the lights out 'cos I'm odd like that, same with Night of the Demon and City of the Dead. Every Halloween without fail......triple bill!
Yeach. He knew how evil she was. Doesn't that kinda creep you out? How people who seem to have the perfect life can be evil. How did evil come into the world?
@brgvt97 Nope, nope and nope. But I just Googled the trailers for them and can see myself having an all out binge at Amazon verrrrry soon! I'm surprised The Innocents slipped by me, I love Deborah Kerr. She was brilliant in Black Narcissus. I'm a bit of a Powell/Pressburger nut actually. By the way, for a real cheese & ham pizza you really need to see Theatre Of Blood with Vincent Price, also 1973. First time I saw it it was listed in the TV guide as 'Theatre Of Blonde'. Oh how I laughed :-)
Mrs. Danvers was blinded with all of Rebecca's admirable qualitties. And let's face it, she's not very sane. But unless we were to hear the story from Rebecca's point of view, I don't see how we could be so firmly believe that she was, without a doubt, a terrible person. I never thought Rebecca was kind, but maybe she was troubled. Guess it just has to do with opinion.
9.28.... you know, if she had asked more questions and stopped being so ignorantly silent, she might have avoided so much! also...in the book. Maxim Shot rebecca and killed her intentionally. I don't blame him, rebecca provoked him, and as we hear at the end, with good reason.
It is interesting, but I've never been one to follow the general idea of people. I try to find the deeper meaning. That may be true, but we certainley have the mentality now, and I refuse to conclude Rebecca as a horrible devil without getting to know her personally. I don't want to add up a totally inaccurate conclusion based on a bunch of stray facts about her. I believe there's more to Rebecca than what we get to know. We'll never know her true story and so I would like to stick with my idea.
uhhh I just read the book and I have to say, this is not what I expected from the movie. There is just something about the charaters Max and Mrs. Danvers that make me cring.
Every one has a Rebecca in one's own mind. It's the beauty of this film.
I like that look of horror mixed with elation on her face when Max says he hated Rebecca.
I was jumping up and down when I read the part when he was like,'You thought I loved Rebecca? I hated her!"
every one has a Rebecca in their own mind. It's the beauty of this film.
So very true. No one could ever play her better. Not even in their dreams.
Normally, I hate to see a film before reading the book it is based off of. With Rebecca, though, it was different. Surprisingly, when I realized that there was a "Rebecca" book, and I read it, I was really happy that I'd seen the movie first! :) Joan and Laurence and the others had all done such a wonderful job in the film, that I loved being able to picture them as the characters while reading the book. (And it's such a wonderful book, too... :) )
i love that when he said I hated her she sort of smiled as if she was thinking
he hated her YEEESSSS HA HA IN YOUR FACE MRS DANVERS
Now that's a real "Dun Dun Dunnnnnn" moment!!
Is it just me, or this is Hitchcocks most beautiful masterpiece?
I LOVE THIS BOOK!
I was texting my bf when I waswatching this and I had this sudden desire to call him darling xD
You can feel sympathy for Mrs Danvers - but she is one of the greatest female villains of all time. A real monster.
sends shivers down my spine when he says that!!
go on...go on... don't be afraid...
whoah who would not freak out with those devilish words!?
@rosesfororion oh yes, indeed. Judith Anderson was a class actress of her time. I've just seen her in great roles, like Big Momma in the film Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
I've always seen Merle Oberon as Rebecca.
I have read the book. And I read another one titled "Mrs. de Winter". My views remained unchanged.
Too cool!!!!
True, in the book she's said to have straight hair, so she wears a wig to get those perfect ringlets. It's also true that a whole night has passed when she arrives to the beach. In the book it's a much longer time, though.
Yes she did. She says so in the book and the book is the original thing, not the movie. She raised her and moved with her to Manderely when Rebecca wed Maxim.
In the musical as well, (or at least in our Hungarian version) Rebecca fell and hit her head while having a quarrell with Maxim - Max pushed her, she hit her head and died. (there is a song where Maxim tells the story)
But in the book, Max shot her.
Great scene from s great movie. Mrs Danvers is played by Judith Anderson. She was originally an Australian and I can detect a faint trace of Australian intonation in her voice. Without her malicious and menacing role, Rebecca would not have been as great as it is.
Naturally, she loved Rebecca because she stood for everything she couldn't. We never get to see Rebecca in person, we only know her through the words and acts of others. So we can't really judge her then. She- like many other "horrible" characters in movies, could very well be misunderstood.
A truly menacing scene when Mrs. Danvers tries to persuade Mrs. De Winter to jump - brilliantly played.
Yes.
Chloris Leachman did a great Danvers parody in Young Frankenstein
5 people don't like to be bored
The maid was excellent
She creeped out everyone!
Mrs. Danvers is one of the best villains of ALL time!
wonderful
The writer, sympathized with Rebecca, she said so once herslef. But aside from the characters we get to know, everyone else "loved Rebecca". The writer does not have to write another book to follow Rebecca just to get her point across. It's left up to the reader to concluded what her or she thinks Rebecca was like.
@toothbrush55 They changed the ending for the movie because at the time Hollywood couldn't show a murderer not being pusnished for the crime. I always felt that the second Mrs De Winter for all her meekness felt elated that her husband hated Rebecca enough to kill her. Then there was no doubt and also knowing the secret gave her finally some power in a relationship where she had had none previously.
i guess her character was so young, sensative and good she couldnt even comprehend the idea of firing the help. lol :)
@TheOobster He liked everybody to call him "Larry." He probably said what he did because if he'd said "this is Larry in the penthouse," nobody would have known who was speaking.
Mrs. Danvers reminds me of Mrs. Dudley in The Haunting (1963).
"why don't you...? why don't you...?"
terrifying! a wonderfully shot moment
"You're over-wrought madam." Bwahahahaha!
max knew the real rebecca
@Artemis6769 They had to change it as Hollywood couldn't at that time show a murderer not being punished for his crime.
If thats the woman who played Mrs Danvers, Absolutely. She is chilling and I hate her. Brilliant acting. I cant stand what she done to the new Mrs De Winter. She is so unbelievably nice and sweet.
I would never have assumed that he murdered Rebecca. Rebecca that was adored by everyone. Maxim that was brave to kill Rebecca.
@BigMamaJamma That is so funny!
whooooooooaaaaa
girlfriend is just going through. everytime she hears some new news, she backs away in shock.
@TheMoodyGuru Exactly. Who's creepier, Mrs. Danvers or Mrs. Dudley?
Mrs. Danvers is under the belief that Rebecca had Drowned and that Maxim was terribly in love with Rebecca "night after night, walking up and down"-- when it turned out the "walking up and down" was Maxim pacing in delirium after he murdered Rebecca. Danvers was neurotic, but she was keeping maxim faithful and devoted to his first wife. But is he to be doomed to a life of misery all alone?
@TheMoodyGuru You're in for a treat, because I think you'll like those movies I mentioned. I bought The Innocents and The Legend of Hell House through Amazon. I bought The Changeling at FYE. I'll check out Theatre of Blood. Thanks for the recommendation.
@TheMoodyGuru I agree. Mrs. Dudley is spooky/creepy, but she does smile at one point in the movie. I don't think Mrs. Danvers smiles ever. I watch The Haunting with the lights out, also. I also watch The Innocents (1961), The Changeling (1980), and The Legend of Hell House (1973) with the lights out. All are great movies. Have you seen them?
when you're not into this, you're just not into it. its' stupid that she feels so helpless. it doesn't make sense.
Ah really, you're right. I just read it in the book. Thanks :)
You think so? I think she's misunderstood. She brought up Rebecca since she was a child, she was like a mother to her. And it hurts her to see someone else take her place. In the book she's much more emotional and cries at least three times. If we heard the story through her persepctive, perhaps we'd think differently of her.
You're welcome :)
well that escalated quickly.
They would have been perfect for each other had it not been for the first Mrs. de Winter
@brgvt97 "In the night.....in the dark!!"
The only point of view of Rebecca we really know in detail, is Maxim's. We see Rebecca through mainly his eyes, to him Rebecca was a monster. To Mrs. Danvers, Rebecca was someone to look up to. Rebecca had good qualities too- she was a leader, she was smart, independant, stylish, charming, funny, and very organized. If you think about it, she was everything Mrs. Danvers wasn't. Mrs. Danvers was dull, plain, unattractive, and not funny or charming.
@WyattsFreakinChannel with that look and disposition, she could have made a career of playing vampires
@brgvt97 Oh definitely Danvers! She gives me goosebumps. I think you could easily bamboozle Mrs Dudley, she doesn't strike me as the scheming type. The Haunting is one of my all time favourite films, it still scares me to this day. I like to watch it alone very late at night with the lights out 'cos I'm odd like that, same with Night of the Demon and City of the Dead. Every Halloween without fail......triple bill!
Yeach. He knew how evil she was. Doesn't that kinda creep you out? How people who seem to have the perfect life can be evil. How did evil come into the world?
No, she didn't bring up Rebecca. She said that she had come to Manderley when Rebecca had been a bride.
Of course, in the book he really *did* kill Rebecca. No excuses like in the movie.
@brgvt97 Nope, nope and nope. But I just Googled the trailers for them and can see myself having an all out binge at Amazon verrrrry soon! I'm surprised The Innocents slipped by me, I love Deborah Kerr. She was brilliant in Black Narcissus. I'm a bit of a Powell/Pressburger nut actually. By the way, for a real cheese & ham pizza you really need to see Theatre Of Blood with Vincent Price, also 1973. First time I saw it it was listed in the TV guide as 'Theatre Of Blonde'. Oh how I laughed :-)
Mrs. Danvers was blinded with all of Rebecca's admirable qualitties. And let's face it, she's not very sane. But unless we were to hear the story from Rebecca's point of view, I don't see how we could be so firmly believe that she was, without a doubt, a terrible person. I never thought Rebecca was kind, but maybe she was troubled. Guess it just has to do with opinion.
oh snap , '' i hated her'' dun dun dunnnnnnn 9:29
No, wait and see.
aww damn i read the comment b4 i got to the i hated her part
Yes, you're right. Evil came out into the world that way, but here is another question, why did God let evil into the world?
Kind of wonder for a second if Mrs. Danvers is about to push Mrs. de Winter right before the firework goes off...
Ce n est pas un feu d artifice,c est l alarme de l échouage du bateau
What did they change? I've only seen the movie and the musical.
@xforcedsilencex Victory is miiiine!!
my god that maid is just pure evil! >-
Hitchcock's best work.......Joan's, too!
ooh really? whwere can i find it?
9.28.... you know, if she had asked more questions and stopped being so ignorantly silent, she might have avoided so much!
also...in the book. Maxim Shot rebecca and killed her intentionally. I don't blame him, rebecca provoked him, and as we hear at the end, with good reason.
The first thing I would do is fire that old biddy!
@brgvt97 No worries! :-)
kind of serves her right for listening to a horrible woman like Mrs. Danvers. You'd think she would know better.
It is interesting, but I've never been one to follow the general idea of people. I try to find the deeper meaning. That may be true, but we certainley have the mentality now, and I refuse to conclude Rebecca as a horrible devil without getting to know her personally. I don't want to add up a totally inaccurate conclusion based on a bunch of stray facts about her. I believe there's more to Rebecca than what we get to know. We'll never know her true story and so I would like to stick with my idea.
for goodness sakes its a book/film. and the details were were given Rebecca was a Manipulative , selfish and very possibly a Sociopath.
Not at all. You have her wrong.
@aDieuSeul then no story
thanks for ruining it for me. you must be very happy.
This is like a really bad Lifetime movie.
Not at all. You have it wrong.
uhhh I just read the book and I have to say, this is not what I expected from the movie. There is just something about the charaters Max and Mrs. Danvers that make me cring.
why don't they kiss? they're supposed to kiss!
The #1 angel of YHWH brought war into heaven & into this world. Blame him, for he deserves censure. Some love evil & belong to him. Very sad.
a lil immature lala
what a jerk :P
3 people with mental problems....
ok, what's wrong with this fool...
:/
naaaw