Great game guys! Always impressed when seeing Jordan play the mobile LRL Teclis castle and using Teclis for more than sitting in the back. Very well done!
Just a reminder that Rally and Thunderbolt Volley are both hero phase command abilities, so you can't do both on the Judicators in the same turn. Also, sniping the general turn one and casting Total Eclipse is just mean. Even if Carl had gotten the double for round 2, unless he also succeeded Heroic Leadership he still wouldn't have been able to use Thunderbolt Volley.
Wouldn't the shrine still give you re-rolls without a shrine guardian? And wouldn't it be beneficial to still take it to have an additional terrain piece to block a flank?
I usualy cant watch br for the life of me but these are so nicely edited that they are really enjoyable to watch and a good size to not spend half a day for 1 video. Really like it keep em coming!
Good game. Good discussion at the end. That Mirrorshield artifact is key for Stormcast heroes. Sentinels and mirror match Stormcast Judicators / Raptors are notable threats, but not the only ones from range.
My first time here but certainly I'll be lurking from time to time. Great vid format guys! The best one for me - relatively short and in case of battle reports - very short one, which is on plus. To add more to it - superb highlights of units targeted by spells or abilities. Really simple solution and yet fantastic, another one is descriptions at the bottom of the screen. But there are some small minuses - the camera shakes from time to time and sometimes is out of focus and there's too much light on the left side. You can work on these technical aspects and your videos will be even better. Overall awesome job guys.
Awesome battle report! This is my first time seeing Jordan's kitbashed Teclis and wow does he look sinister floating off in the distance. Perfection with this colour scheme.
Very entertaining battle report, was awesome seeing somewhat similar lists with different tool sets, in combination with the incredible skill of you both it made for a great match!
Wow Jordan you were one priority roll away from getting wiped imo. Did you win the rolloff to go first as well? I keep losing the roll off in these matches at GTs and Teclis is dead before I get my first turn. I need more Season of War dice clearly!
no offense , but lumineth have like 1300 point-ish left on the board contrast to stormcast 400-ish where all of their DPS unit is gone. score don t matter because at this point stormcast don t have anything left to do any kill-relate battle tactic while the lumineth is close to table the stormcast.
Hi mates! Amazing report at always... i have been eyeing that lumineth paintjob for a while now and i have to ask - do you have a painting guide or paint list for it somewhere? I am dying to know which colours you used and whether or not oil washes were involved. :)
I'm guessing you posted in the FB LRL Group, but if I'm mistaken here it is again: This was the process for the red: - Vallejo Burnt Red base coat - AK Streaking grime/rust mix (roughly 50/50) - Moslty cleaned the s grime binus the recesses - VJ Flat Red stippled mid color - AK Burnt Orange stippled highlight The colors are just what I happen to have/use, the main thing would be the process/application order. Also worth noting I know some people prefer the more muted look, so you could sip that final burnt orange highlight if you wanted (Y)
Saw the weakness of the judicators with the reduced range IMO. Longstrikes are squishy but the added range makes them so much more of a threat in a shooting v. shooting match. Yeah, it's less of an issue on most other plans and against most other opponents...but when it comes up, it makes a massive difference.
+1 to this , being able to shoot at all is better than not being able to with that 6" difference , btw can t stormcast have the spell that grant 5+ward or that +6" shooting range like the lumineth had? why SC faction spell have to be so medicore......although against lumineth it probably won t matter because they will have way more unbide than their opponent.
Absolutely awesome battle report. I thought it was looking bad for the LRL after that first turn but wow Teclis and emerald life swarm shenanigans just kept them alive enough to get those big units off the board and take control. I really like the play style of teleporting around the board with the sentinels and Teclis. One question I had is whether you’d consider 20,10 wardens instead did 10,10,10 as then lifeswarm could maybe keep the big unit alive against enemy shooting? Your probably always going to lose one unit but maybe not the second if it was reinforced?
Nice competitive game - thanks for uploading! I feel like it would have been a terribly short one if Carl had gotten the double turn, so I'm glad it went the distance. I'm curious why Lumineth has not placed higher at events, especially LVO. Is it that most people are not capable of generaling as well as Jordan? Or is it that most armies have a pre-determined counter-plan in mind when facing Lumineth? Jordan has probably played Lumineth better than anyone else I've watched. They have so many tricks that you almost reach the point of "analysis paralysis" and just can't decide what to do - this rings especially true when Teclis is in the army. Almost like playing Sylvaneth, only much stronger of course... :D Cheers!
Great battle report, and I love playing The Vice. This is such a unique mission for scoring battle tactics, it really makes you rethink your normal strategies.
I'm going to spam your videos with asking how you painted the Lumineth. How did you get that smooth red matte metal? Sorry for the spam and love the video's!
@@SeasonofWar yes, the doubt we have in Italy is whether the edge outside the table counts or not. (in the sense that half of the goal would be on a place where the playing field does not exist), in fact watching your games and knowing that you play in several tournaments (indeed 2 absolute in the Canadian "achievements") I was wondering how you consider it to yours tournaments
18.1. The edge of the table is not a territory. You always measure from the center which in this case is the corner. If I made a marker or model with a right angle and put it in the corner its wholly within. The coin marker miniature etc can be moved and has 0 purpose beside decoration and a reminder. This isn't 40k where objs are 40mm tokens. Which if it was you could 100% say it's not wholly within. But it's aos. And the corner of the table is wholly within your territory. It's not touching another territory.
@@godlyness2811 funny how your first line answered your last and you arent even aware. if a point sits on the edge between your territory and oblivion, it is not within your territory.
@@godlyness2811 to my admission, any point is always part of a line, having said that the points can be only inside or completely outside, having said that if the rule says that all the target points along an edge are not entirely within, even the corner points should be considered not entirely within. then maybe it's not like that .. in fact I was wondering how thoughtful he is in your tournament circuit
Great game, I always love seeing LRL especially hopping around with Teclis, very well played! Does lambent light reroll all the dice to hit or can the player choose? Just curious. Thanks!
I dont understand Carl's overly conservative play with stromdrake / two units of vindictors. Should have committed them into melee asap, stormdrake should have charged the lord regent as soon as turn 2 (unless you tell me he failed the charge) if you commit and your opponent teleport away to cap your point, you simply cap theirs because where they sat would now be empty (not to mention this also forces teclis to spend a cast on it) LRL is known for having tragic damage output but one could say they excel at handling one target at a time, the fact that Carl just played into this making me sad (although the first turn general snipe + total eclipse is rough indeed, followed by a series of unlucky roll you really cant blame him much)
Guys maybe im the only player in the world but I think that syar is overrated. Zaitrec is better, you are able to cast your key spell very easy! About the question arcane tome on relictor, I suggest to try tauralon/ knight draconis with scint trail mount trait! The -1 to dispel help so mutch! Gj for the report!!
Opens them up to unleash hell, and could easily lose a Fulminator or two. Carl also knows I need the wardens as scoring units, and people always forget Warden's can have twice the damage output that Sentinels do!
@@SeasonofWar but the new unleash hell only works at a 6" charge? I kinda don't understand the new unleash after the FAQ... But even then, binding the wardens there the judicators had the chance to shoot at them. Sadly the judis were rly rly bad this game 600p for nothing 😬😬hurts me to see because I wanted to play a 15man squad of them as well 😩
it is 6" model to model , fulminator have to end their charge within 1" of the sentinel so most of them would be able to unleash hell against the fulminator with how close they are to each other model , MW on 5 and 6 mean 12 MW from 30 shot on average , add reroll hit from spell on top of that and that s like sending the fulminator to their death EVEN with a successful 9" charge.
@@SeasonofWar Not sure about this. I hadn't thought of this tactic until seeing this batrep (great quality, as usual!), but after chatting with some of our local TOs, it seems that objectives are technically a single point...not the entire marker or 6" around the point. Have you had this judged this way at any large events? Just curious as I'm trying to improve in the game myself! Thanks again for the content. =)
Was a great game and I feel for the SCE player. You did the right thing being solidly aggressive IMO, but unfortunately that priority roll did not reward your aggression and once the Fulminators got murdered I think you were always on the back foot. At the same time well played by LRL! You kept Teclis nice and protected the entire game and patiently waited for your chance to attack and pew those dragons down.
@@JebodiahJunfan Yes it is. Both SDG and Fulminators have 12" MW output attacks, which will do Teclis in no time. Not to mention their devastating charges. So he had to consider where he was keeping things to zone them out and prevent them easily shooting at Teclis or being able to easily charge him.
Someone has to explain to me how you did aggressive expansion turn 1. The two objectives in your zone are....in your zone. Unless you can give me the mental gymnastics of how they are not wholly within your zone.
sitting at the edge does not count as being wholly within. A point technically does not have a two dimensional area to be measured and be considered whether it is wholly within a said area.
@@NuubLoord 18.1. The edge of the table is not a territory. You always measure from the center which in this case is the corner. If I made a marker or model with a right angle and put it in the corner its wholly within. The coin marker miniature etc can be moved and has 0 purpose beside decoration and a reminder. This isn't 40k where objs are 40mm tokens. Which if it was you could 100% say it's not wholly within. But it's aos. And the corner of the table is wholly within your territory. It's not touching another territory.
I really wanted to like you guys. Then I saw that horrible camera angle you use. I don't know why channels insist on doing this. Watch how Ash at gorilla miniatures does it. Problem with him for me is I don't tune into him to see good lists. It's his presentation that's awesome. If you guys fix your camera angle and play with tournament lists, I'll give you my money
Sorry Tim - the thousands of others that support us love the camera angles & valuable perspective it provides, so I don't think we'll be changing it. Everyone's welcome to their own opinions though - all the best!
Great game guys! Always impressed when seeing Jordan play the mobile LRL Teclis castle and using Teclis for more than sitting in the back. Very well done!
I can't believe how much life swarm brought back so many wardens.
Wardens only have 1hp so there kinda easy to get rid of
Dragon stormcast conversions are super cool.
That blissbarb archer comment hurt… my poor overcosted Slaanesh
Just a reminder that Rally and Thunderbolt Volley are both hero phase command abilities, so you can't do both on the Judicators in the same turn. Also, sniping the general turn one and casting Total Eclipse is just mean. Even if Carl had gotten the double for round 2, unless he also succeeded Heroic Leadership he still wouldn't have been able to use Thunderbolt Volley.
Just had to look this up. That would have been crazy. There’s also a wind spell to shut down a unit from using cp
Please tell me where I can buy those heads for Stormcast! Please!
Wouldn't the shrine still give you re-rolls without a shrine guardian? And wouldn't it be beneficial to still take it to have an additional terrain piece to block a flank?
I usualy cant watch br for the life of me but these are so nicely edited that they are really enjoyable to watch and a good size to not spend half a day for 1 video. Really like it keep em coming!
Best AoS gameplay, I absolutely love the condensed rounds. I'm still trying to learn the and I've learned far more than I expected
Thanks so much, glad to hear you're enjoying the format and learning lots!
Good game.
Good discussion at the end. That Mirrorshield artifact is key for Stormcast heroes. Sentinels and mirror match Stormcast Judicators / Raptors are notable threats, but not the only ones from range.
My first time here but certainly I'll be lurking from time to time. Great vid format guys! The best one for me - relatively short and in case of battle reports - very short one, which is on plus. To add more to it - superb highlights of units targeted by spells or abilities. Really simple solution and yet fantastic, another one is descriptions at the bottom of the screen. But there are some small minuses - the camera shakes from time to time and sometimes is out of focus and there's too much light on the left side. You can work on these technical aspects and your videos will be even better. Overall awesome job guys.
Awesome battle report! This is my first time seeing Jordan's kitbashed Teclis and wow does he look sinister floating off in the distance. Perfection with this colour scheme.
Another great game guys! Note to self: Whenever playing SCE against Lumineth, put Mirrorshield on my Relictor.
Awesome bat rep. Gonna watch again to see how you danced around those engagement ranges. Great game 👍
Very entertaining battle report, was awesome seeing somewhat similar lists with different tool sets, in combination with the incredible skill of you both it made for a great match!
Thanks so much - glad you enjoyed it! :D
Wow Jordan you were one priority roll away from getting wiped imo. Did you win the rolloff to go first as well? I keep losing the roll off in these matches at GTs and Teclis is dead before I get my first turn. I need more Season of War dice clearly!
Great game guys, love these close games.
Would adding a second priest to the SCE list have helped (or some bodyguards)!?
no offense , but lumineth have like 1300 point-ish left on the board contrast to stormcast 400-ish where all of their DPS unit is gone. score don t matter because at this point stormcast don t have anything left to do any kill-relate battle tactic while the lumineth is close to table the stormcast.
Hi mates!
Amazing report at always... i have been eyeing that lumineth paintjob for a while now and i have to ask - do you have a painting guide or paint list for it somewhere? I am dying to know which colours you used and whether or not oil washes were involved. :)
I'm guessing you posted in the FB LRL Group, but if I'm mistaken here it is again:
This was the process for the red:
- Vallejo Burnt Red base coat
- AK Streaking grime/rust mix (roughly 50/50)
- Moslty cleaned the s grime binus the recesses
- VJ Flat Red stippled mid color
- AK Burnt Orange stippled highlight
The colors are just what I happen to have/use, the main thing would be the process/application order.
Also worth noting I know some people prefer the more muted look, so you could sip that final burnt orange highlight if you wanted (Y)
@@SeasonofWar you are absolutely correct - bombarding you on all fronts to get the critical information 😅
Thanks again mate.
Saw the weakness of the judicators with the reduced range IMO. Longstrikes are squishy but the added range makes them so much more of a threat in a shooting v. shooting match. Yeah, it's less of an issue on most other plans and against most other opponents...but when it comes up, it makes a massive difference.
+1 to this , being able to shoot at all is better than not being able to with that 6" difference , btw can t stormcast have the spell that grant 5+ward or that +6" shooting range like the lumineth had? why SC faction spell have to be so medicore......although against lumineth it probably won t matter because they will have way more unbide than their opponent.
I love the look of the Lumineth. Where did you get the heads for the sentinels??
Eternal Guard!
Fantastic job Jordan, was looking a bit sketchy at the beginning, but I learnt a lot from the spell combinations and positioning for my own games. :D
Glad you enjoyed it - Teclis is always a fun unit to whip around the table haha.
How did you make the pillars for teclis and other models?
Absolutely awesome battle report. I thought it was looking bad for the LRL after that first turn but wow Teclis and emerald life swarm shenanigans just kept them alive enough to get those big units off the board and take control. I really like the play style of teleporting around the board with the sentinels and Teclis. One question I had is whether you’d consider 20,10 wardens instead did 10,10,10 as then lifeswarm could maybe keep the big unit alive against enemy shooting? Your probably always going to lose one unit but maybe not the second if it was reinforced?
Nice competitive game - thanks for uploading! I feel like it would have been a terribly short one if Carl had gotten the double turn, so I'm glad it went the distance.
I'm curious why Lumineth has not placed higher at events, especially LVO. Is it that most people are not capable of generaling as well as Jordan? Or is it that most armies have a pre-determined counter-plan in mind when facing Lumineth?
Jordan has probably played Lumineth better than anyone else I've watched. They have so many tricks that you almost reach the point of "analysis paralysis" and just can't decide what to do - this rings especially true when Teclis is in the army. Almost like playing Sylvaneth, only much stronger of course... :D Cheers!
Really strategic game for LRL, great job, I love this battle report
Great battle report, and I love playing The Vice. This is such a unique mission for scoring battle tactics, it really makes you rethink your normal strategies.
Very nice batrep once again guys! The 2 armies are awesome. May I know how the white armor are painted? Pleeeeease! 😀
Loving the format of the show so far.
Baby wearing hat meta OP. No wonder Barl defected to the Tough Crowd
How did you do the dragonkin conversion? Is it 3D printed? Looks awesome!!
Nice to see the draconic stormcast hit the table!
I'm going to spam your videos with asking how you painted the Lumineth. How did you get that smooth red matte metal? Sorry for the spam and love the video's!
Those lizardcast are incredible
Where can we get the replacement heads?
What do you guys do to the bases to make it so easy to move them in blobs?
Geez those wardens were tough! Poor judicators ... telling doing more damage with UH....
In your ETC tournament circuit in this "La Morsa" scenario; aggressive advance is allowed on the corners of the table "??
The objectives are on the border of your territory, not wholly within it - so 100% legal!
@@SeasonofWar yes, the doubt we have in Italy is whether the edge outside the table counts or not. (in the sense that half of the goal would be on a place where the playing field does not exist), in fact watching your games and knowing that you play in several tournaments (indeed 2 absolute in the Canadian "achievements") I was wondering how you consider it to yours tournaments
18.1.
The edge of the table is not a territory.
You always measure from the center which in this case is the corner.
If I made a marker or model with a right angle and put it in the corner its wholly within. The coin marker miniature etc can be moved and has 0 purpose beside decoration and a reminder.
This isn't 40k where objs are 40mm tokens. Which if it was you could 100% say it's not wholly within. But it's aos. And the corner of the table is wholly within your territory. It's not touching another territory.
@@godlyness2811 funny how your first line answered your last and you arent even aware.
if a point sits on the edge between your territory and oblivion, it is not within your territory.
@@godlyness2811 to my admission, any point is always part of a line, having said that the points can be only inside or completely outside, having said that if the rule says that all the target points along an edge are not entirely within, even the corner points should be considered not entirely within. then maybe it's not like that .. in fact I was wondering how thoughtful he is in your tournament circuit
Thanks for the batrep - best one I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. How do I become a premium member? All the links I click lead me to dead ends!
The "Join" button underneath the video doesn't work? Dang UA-cams
I think there is some glitch when trying from your phone. May need to do it from a PC!
Thanks, Sam!
Hey guys! How do we get access to the members discord?
There is a link in the video description!
where did u get the movement trays from
Is there a way to join premium on the UA-cam App? I can’t see any options for it ?
There isn't sadly - gotta do it on a computer :(
Great game, I always love seeing LRL especially hopping around with Teclis, very well played!
Does lambent light reroll all the dice to hit or can the player choose? Just curious. Thanks!
You get to choose, so it's particularly powerful when Sentinels also have Power of Hysh active, since you can reroll all of your
@@The_Revanchist wow that's really good. No wonder units of 30 are a terror in the night! Thanks for the reply I appreciate it!
Is there any reason as Lumineth to not run the shrine?
Just with the terrain/mission I felt it would get in my way more than it would help with this list!
He took off the hat and lost the double turn for T3 ooff
I dont understand Carl's overly conservative play with stromdrake / two units of vindictors. Should have committed them into melee asap, stormdrake should have charged the lord regent as soon as turn 2 (unless you tell me he failed the charge)
if you commit and your opponent teleport away to cap your point, you simply cap theirs because where they sat would now be empty (not to mention this also forces teclis to spend a cast on it)
LRL is known for having tragic damage output but one could say they excel at handling one target at a time, the fact that Carl just played into this making me sad (although the first turn general snipe + total eclipse is rough indeed, followed by a series of unlucky roll you really cant blame him much)
Mirrorshield seems good
That Teclis tho. #Goals
Guys maybe im the only player in the world but I think that syar is overrated. Zaitrec is better, you are able to cast your key spell very easy! About the question arcane tome on relictor, I suggest to try tauralon/ knight draconis with scint trail mount trait! The -1 to dispel help so mutch! Gj for the report!!
wow , proxy 15 vigilor as judicator. that s a lot of money investment.
Not much different that buying 2 boxes of Judicators - and way better models imo!
Great format, good stuff
Sentinels are the highest threat why not deepstrike fulmis right in front of them and then charge and kill a bunch in the charge?
Opens them up to unleash hell, and could easily lose a Fulminator or two. Carl also knows I need the wardens as scoring units, and people always forget Warden's can have twice the damage output that Sentinels do!
@@SeasonofWar but the new unleash hell only works at a 6" charge? I kinda don't understand the new unleash after the FAQ... But even then, binding the wardens there the judicators had the chance to shoot at them. Sadly the judis were rly rly bad this game 600p for nothing 😬😬hurts me to see because I wanted to play a 15man squad of them as well 😩
it is 6" model to model , fulminator have to end their charge within 1" of the sentinel so most of them would be able to unleash hell against the fulminator with how close they are to each other model , MW on 5 and 6 mean 12 MW from 30 shot on average , add reroll hit from spell on top of that and that s like sending the fulminator to their death EVEN with a successful 9" charge.
Amazing game! Loved every second of it
How You completed agressive expansion on round1 siting in your terytory?
The objectives in the corner of the table are not wholly within our territory, therefore count for aggressive expansion!
@@SeasonofWar Not sure about this. I hadn't thought of this tactic until seeing this batrep (great quality, as usual!), but after chatting with some of our local TOs, it seems that objectives are technically a single point...not the entire marker or 6" around the point. Have you had this judged this way at any large events? Just curious as I'm trying to improve in the game myself! Thanks again for the content. =)
Amazing game and great skill on managing LRL
Was a great game and I feel for the SCE player. You did the right thing being solidly aggressive IMO, but unfortunately that priority roll did not reward your aggression and once the Fulminators got murdered I think you were always on the back foot. At the same time well played by LRL! You kept Teclis nice and protected the entire game and patiently waited for your chance to attack and pew those dragons down.
@@JebodiahJunfan Yes it is. Both SDG and Fulminators have 12" MW output attacks, which will do Teclis in no time. Not to mention their devastating charges. So he had to consider where he was keeping things to zone them out and prevent them easily shooting at Teclis or being able to easily charge him.
Before I even start watching... Go STORMCASTS. But whoever wins is cool.
Someone has to explain to me how you did aggressive expansion turn 1.
The two objectives in your zone are....in your zone.
Unless you can give me the mental gymnastics of how they are not wholly within your zone.
partly, not wholly within.
therefore legit targets for aggressive expansion
sitting at the edge does not count as being wholly within. A point technically does not have a two dimensional area to be measured and be considered whether it is wholly within a said area.
@@NuubLoord 18.1.
The edge of the table is not a territory.
You always measure from the center which in this case is the corner.
If I made a marker or model with a right angle and put it in the corner its wholly within. The coin marker miniature etc can be moved and has 0 purpose beside decoration and a reminder.
This isn't 40k where objs are 40mm tokens. Which if it was you could 100% say it's not wholly within. But it's aos. And the corner of the table is wholly within your territory. It's not touching another territory.
Wait are you saying the corner of the table isn't wholly within your territory?
@@godlyness2811 exactly
lmao @ the blissbarb comment
Oh wow! It’s Tough Crowds very own BARL! Bs UP!
Ps. This rules and I love how you play teclis here. Siiiiiick
No, that's Carl! BARL was at LVO on the Sunday... Classic mix up
@@RidgeHanna classic gamers blunder
Kruelboyz pleaSe agaainnnn
See dragons, immediately want the other side to win, even if it is 30 sentinels… times are strange
I love stormcasts.
Always happy to see either of these lists lose. Too bad one got to win.
sentinel need much more nerf
I really wanted to like you guys. Then I saw that horrible camera angle you use. I don't know why channels insist on doing this. Watch how Ash at gorilla miniatures does it. Problem with him for me is I don't tune into him to see good lists. It's his presentation that's awesome. If you guys fix your camera angle and play with tournament lists, I'll give you my money
Sorry Tim - the thousands of others that support us love the camera angles & valuable perspective it provides, so I don't think we'll be changing it. Everyone's welcome to their own opinions though - all the best!