@@mariog7213 not really. They're mostly random Chinese companies pumping out junk that fails in a year because the case if unfinished and full of metal shavings and machine oil. There really aren't any watches that can compete with Seiko in the $250-550 price point. Citizen can, but they don't really like to stay from Eco-drive.
Just recently purchased the SSK003 blueberry GMT and followed by adding the Marine Master clasp to the stock bracelet. Definitely agree with you on this clasp . I actually think this is the best adjustable clasp made for a watch .
LOVE YOUR SEIKO DIVER BUT HATE THE CLASP???? Hmmmm....Come hang out today and check out a bracelet upgrade. I got a lot of interest so I thought it deserved a stand alone video. Apparently people search this a lot. Hope you all enjoy. Was testing out new lighting in this video as well that you'll see in new videos. *but there still 20some old videos not LIVE yet. So dual purpose for me. I think I like the light in this vid. -falling
Interesting. Thanks for the info. My Seiko is on a NATO but I’ve been looking to switching it over to a bracelet. This definitely helped in making my decision. Thanks.
Thank you, this is such a great hack. I couldn't get the bracelet on my SPB143 to fit quite right. The original clasp is really long and even with the micro-adjust it was always a little too big or small and shifted over to the edge of my wrist. Switching out to a MM300 clasp was magic. It's a bit bulkier (not much), but more importantly it's shorter and has that great adjustment on the fly. Plus, the steel on the OEM MM300 clasp matches the darker color of the Diashield Seiko bracelet, which isn't true of any aftermarket bracelets that I've tried. I've been looking for a better bracelet, turns out all I needed was a better clasp. I'm going to do the same thing on my SLA051 next. Thanks again.
Well, it just happened (finally): ordered new clasp a few weeks back, arrived today: after the usual tedious bits of installation (Note: while the Jubilee-style bracelet on the Seiko 5 Sports GMT *is* cool with its solid links & end-links, getting everything back together takes a bit of patience), I can say this new combo is fantastic. There's another watch YTer who doesn't quite understand the fuss over this stuff, but he wears his watches looser than a sailor in the French Quarter. Thanks for the inspiration!
Good job on the video. I really can't understand Seiko's insistence on not suppling better OEM clasps on their watches. Whatever the cost increase, I've never been able to find a single Seiko fan that would not gladly pay the slightly increased price for a better clasp from the manufacturer. When it comes to the link attachment system, I have a different outlook. Since I have NEVER experienced a failure in any split pin or screwed equipped watch bracelet, (and I've been at this hobby a long time) for me, ease of sizing outweighs any promised additional security. Thumbs up given!
i'm going to guess seiko does everything in house so they have a huge stock pile of parts lol. Maybe they are working on a screwed link bracelet but we wont see it for a while because they make it themselves? just a wild guess.
Salut, je te laisse quand-même un petit commentaire de remerciement car grâce à toi je remets le bracelet acier de la Willard !!! La fermeture original était trop désagréable et laissait des marques sur la peau mais cet upgrad c'est le bonheur, agréable et aucunes traces !!! Alors voilà, merci merci merci 🙏💖 Et salutations de France ! 🇲🇫
For me it’s a toss up between the two watches, both are beautiful. The Willard is the more iconic of the two. Buy both but then, which one to wear? Clasp is a worthwhile functional upgrade.
I've done the exact thing on my SPB149 after seeing your Instagram post a couple of days ago. Very nice and useful clasp, especially in the climate that I'm in.
Many thanks for this video. What an amazing watch. Could you please tell me where I can source the MM 300 clasp and the SPB187 bezel and if possible their part numbers? Many thanks.
Bought the titanium clasp for my Shogun after watching you video and another by Lume Shot mentioning it. After a week, bought the stainless steel for my sumo. Thanks for the tip.
@@EscapementWatch Just a note to anyone thinking of upgrading, you may have to push out the micro adjust for bigger or add a link back in when changing to this clasp. The milled clasp is thicker than your typical stamped and you need to compensate for that extra girth.
Thanks for an awesome video. Whereabouts did you get the other Rolex style clasp from? Does anybody know where to find one that will fit Seiko dive bracelets at 18 MM?? Thanks in advance
As always, highly informative, always entertaining and never too serious. My No1 Watch Channel. Keep it coming. When are we going to see some Grand Seiko reviews??? 😉
Thanks for the kind words and support appreciate it. Kavar jewelers is trying to get GS and Omega AD status by years end! if successful I will have access to the full line. so late 2021 or early 2022 is best guess. but for now nope.
What spring bars did you use to attach the bracelet to the watch? Is there any play or wiggle introduced as a result. The bars on my MM300 are very small in calibre / thickness. I am wondering what would work for attaching the Seiko clasp to my Stapcode bracelet which has thicker spring bars. Also - the other main negative for me is the length of the mm300 clasp. Dramatically exceeds the lug to lug of any watch. And with all that length they could have added more micro holes! It's nicer than I was expecting however with all the negativity in reviews.
I prefer pin and collar system, I find it easy too. I think all watch makers should provide adjustable clasps as standard, especially on watches costing over 1k. It will become the norm in time though. Although I'm going through a nato stage at the moment, as my spb151 is a strap monster. Great vid as always .
Is this whole Seiko Bracelet upgrade clasp available for King Turtle Special Edition Save The Ocean Manta Ray? And if so, will it match the color on the watch body?
No I don't think it will work. I think king turtle is 22mm down to 20mm. it needs to be 18mm at the clasp to work. usually 20mm tapers down to 18mm on seiko. but measure the last link thickness to make sure its 18mm.
Wow this is an awesome 😎 video. I also added a Marine Master clasp to my SBDC033 Sumo. It’s the best upgrade you could do to any Seiko diver in my opinion 👍🏻💯
I have the Willard but I’m missing the S/S bracelet. Original one is £436, any other 20mm seiko bracelets would fit or anything else I have to take into consideration? Thanks
No other bracelets fit right now from seiko as far as I know. Seiko OEM bracelets are INSANE PRICED if you want to buy it without the watch. It almost makes you think its better to buy the whole watch and sell the head! Which is something I did recently lol.
Are you sure this is an original Seiko clasp? Checked out the eBay listing and the description seems to avoid stating the brand and it is shipped from China.
Not 100% sure, but I did bring in a marine master 300 from kavar jewelers and compared and it's exactly the same. I wouldn't be surprised if they do produce the bracelets in China
@Escapement & Watch thank you. I have found another seller who was willing to confirm that they sell a genuine Seiko clasp. The only downside is that it's 50% more expensive. I had a bad experience once with a fake Tudor clasp which fell apart so I think I'll pay more for the assurance.
So I bought one for my M200 and when wearing it if too much wrist tension occurs the strap glides open on its own is this normal? Any feed back would be appreciated 👍🏻
Wow that soon! No clue where to get it as it's too new. I'd call local Seiko service center in your area. Maybe the AD will cover it. If it falls under warranty
after salt water or chlorine always give it a rinse with fresh distilled water at home to get the salt or chemicals out. I find really eliminates issues.
because the case is coated with diashield the color of the steel will be off on aftermarket bracelets. so I suggest just getting the oem bracelet off a 143. check ebay/reddit/watchforums or gnomon M197213H0 part number
I don't notice a huge difference but I wasn't really paying attention check my video out again but maybe try the titanium and steel version that might match it better. And just to clarify the Willard and the mm200 are dia Shield coated as well
Pins are absolutely not the most secure way to connect links. Pins are FAR thinner and easier to bend or shear. Screw links are used on watches that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for a reason. If they're installed properly, they're 100% reliable. If someone is incompetent, they can fall out.
Not true Patek Phillip in 2012 switched from screws to pins because of broken screws and falling out. No matter how well installed they eventually will back out. As the links move with daily wear, the screws back out in micro increments over time. Engineering wise, it is a possible FAIL POINT. Pins are just the most secure in the world if installed properly. And the best manufacture in the world knows this for their top watch.
@@EscapementWatch agree with this as I've had watches using pins for decades and have never had one break or fall out. Would you say a bracelet using screws needs to basically be maintained on a frequent basis to avoid this ?
Thank you so much. I upgraded to this clasp and couldn't be happier.
Excellent!
I did it to my willard-x and love it. Thank you so much for the idea. Wears so much better.
Great mod! Just upgraded the stock braclet of my sumo solar gmt... Love it!
I think I could only collect Seiko and and be happy 😂
Same, I'm actually trying to not buy Seikos at this point
I think the are the best, inexpensive with a great design heritage
I couldn’t. There are so many awesome watches out there but seiko does make a lot of them
@@mariog7213 not really. They're mostly random Chinese companies pumping out junk that fails in a year because the case if unfinished and full of metal shavings and machine oil. There really aren't any watches that can compete with Seiko in the $250-550 price point. Citizen can, but they don't really like to stay from Eco-drive.
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Im a seikohollic.
Just recently purchased the SSK003 blueberry GMT and followed by adding the Marine Master clasp to the stock bracelet. Definitely agree with you on this clasp . I actually think this is the best adjustable clasp made for a watch .
LOVE YOUR SEIKO DIVER BUT HATE THE CLASP???? Hmmmm....Come hang out today and check out a bracelet upgrade. I got a lot of interest so I thought it deserved a stand alone video. Apparently people search this a lot. Hope you all enjoy. Was testing out new lighting in this video as well that you'll see in new videos. *but there still 20some old videos not LIVE yet. So dual purpose for me. I think I like the light in this vid. -falling
I have these on all my Seiko bracelets as well as a few others. I'm hooked.
Does the extension ever move while you’re wearing the watch?
Interesting. Thanks for the info. My Seiko is on a NATO but I’ve been looking to switching it over to a bracelet. This definitely helped in making my decision. Thanks.
Thank you, this is such a great hack. I couldn't get the bracelet on my SPB143 to fit quite right. The original clasp is really long and even with the micro-adjust it was always a little too big or small and shifted over to the edge of my wrist.
Switching out to a MM300 clasp was magic. It's a bit bulkier (not much), but more importantly it's shorter and has that great adjustment on the fly. Plus, the steel on the OEM MM300 clasp matches the darker color of the Diashield Seiko bracelet, which isn't true of any aftermarket bracelets that I've tried.
I've been looking for a better bracelet, turns out all I needed was a better clasp. I'm going to do the same thing on my SLA051 next. Thanks again.
Well, it just happened (finally): ordered new clasp a few weeks back, arrived today: after the usual tedious bits of installation (Note: while the Jubilee-style bracelet on the Seiko 5 Sports GMT *is* cool with its solid links & end-links, getting everything back together takes a bit of patience), I can say this new combo is fantastic. There's another watch YTer who doesn't quite understand the fuss over this stuff, but he wears his watches looser than a sailor in the French Quarter. Thanks for the inspiration!
man these are excellent videos. love all the close ups
Glad you like them!
Good job on the video. I really can't understand Seiko's insistence on not suppling better OEM clasps on their watches. Whatever the cost increase, I've never been able to find a single Seiko fan that would not gladly pay the slightly increased price for a better clasp from the manufacturer.
When it comes to the link attachment system, I have a different outlook. Since I have NEVER experienced a failure in any split pin or screwed equipped watch bracelet, (and I've been at this hobby a long time) for me, ease of sizing outweighs any promised additional security. Thumbs up given!
i'm going to guess seiko does everything in house so they have a huge stock pile of parts lol. Maybe they are working on a screwed link bracelet but we wont see it for a while because they make it themselves? just a wild guess.
Salut, je te laisse quand-même un petit commentaire de remerciement car grâce à toi je remets le bracelet acier de la Willard !!!
La fermeture original était trop désagréable et laissait des marques sur la peau mais cet upgrad c'est le bonheur, agréable et aucunes traces !!!
Alors voilà, merci merci merci 🙏💖
Et salutations de France ! 🇲🇫
For me it’s a toss up between the two watches, both are beautiful. The Willard is the more iconic of the two. Buy both but then, which one to wear? Clasp is a worthwhile functional upgrade.
I'm waiting for mine to arrive. Thanks for the suggestion!
No problem 👍
This in 22mm for the king turtle... 👍, linke your enthusiasm
I've done the exact thing on my SPB149 after seeing your Instagram post a couple of days ago. Very nice and useful clasp, especially in the climate that I'm in.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video!
Is there a way to remove the diver extension, and then put the Seiko bracelet back together again minus the diver extension?
No it looks like you can't remove it
@@EscapementWatch Okay, thank you for your reply.
Where can I get the factory clasp? And how much are they?
I love the style of the willard x bracelet it matches so well, beautiful
Is there a PVD black version? I can't find
Many thanks for this video. What an amazing watch. Could you please tell me where I can source the MM 300 clasp and the SPB187 bezel and if possible their part numbers? Many thanks.
The MM300 titanium clasp is amazing! A lot of people may not know, that thin piece of bended extension is extremely difficult to make!
Very good video. I just ordered a New Buckle Clasp for my Seiko. Please keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Bought the titanium clasp for my Shogun after watching you video and another by Lume Shot mentioning it. After a week, bought the stainless steel for my sumo. Thanks for the tip.
Glad I could help
@@EscapementWatch Just a note to anyone thinking of upgrading, you may have to push out the micro adjust for bigger or add a link back in when changing to this clasp. The milled clasp is thicker than your typical stamped and you need to compensate for that extra girth.
Great video!
What is the reference number for the black dial?
Thanks for an awesome video.
Whereabouts did you get the other Rolex style clasp from?
Does anybody know where to find one that will fit Seiko dive bracelets at 18 MM??
Thanks in advance
I showed a rolex style clasp? It shouldn't fit. Those aftermarket rolex clasps all use screw links wont link up properly.
I'd like to see if you have a bracelet for the SLA043. Thanks
Blue Willard all the way!
I love the Willard and I do love the mod. Just ordered the part. Can't wait to install.
Which site did you order this from? :)
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As always, highly informative, always entertaining and never too serious. My No1 Watch Channel. Keep it coming. When are we going to see some Grand Seiko reviews??? 😉
Thanks for the kind words and support appreciate it. Kavar jewelers is trying to get GS and Omega AD status by years end! if successful I will have access to the full line. so late 2021 or early 2022 is best guess. but for now nope.
Definitely worth a purchase
Can you share for SPB147 bracelet and any link to purchase.
Just ordered two...one for SPB149 and SBDC133. Thanks for the video!
Hope you enjoy it!
You didn't talk about the bracelet width...would the new bracelet fit on my padi MM200? Or the SLA055 wifey's getting me for Christmas ?
This is only about the clasp. 18mm. This clasp will fit on any seiko bracelet with the 18mm at the clasps.
IT IS AN UPGRADE…..LIKE.
Darn. Sold out and alternative vendors selling it for double.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 you nailed with this one ! Ty Bro
Glad you liked it!
What spring bars did you use to attach the bracelet to the watch? Is there any play or wiggle introduced as a result. The bars on my MM300 are very small in calibre / thickness. I am wondering what would work for attaching the Seiko clasp to my Stapcode bracelet which has thicker spring bars. Also - the other main negative for me is the length of the mm300 clasp. Dramatically exceeds the lug to lug of any watch. And with all that length they could have added more micro holes! It's nicer than I was expecting however with all the negativity in reviews.
I prefer pin and collar system, I find it easy too. I think all watch makers should provide adjustable clasps as standard, especially on watches costing over 1k. It will become the norm in time though. Although I'm going through a nato stage at the moment, as my spb151 is a strap monster. Great vid as always .
Is this whole Seiko Bracelet upgrade clasp available for King Turtle Special Edition Save The Ocean Manta Ray? And if so, will it match the color on the watch body?
No I don't think it will work. I think king turtle is 22mm down to 20mm. it needs to be 18mm at the clasp to work. usually 20mm tapers down to 18mm on seiko. but measure the last link thickness to make sure its 18mm.
@@EscapementWatch
Thanks for the answer, it's a shame they did not make one that fits.
No prob
Wow this is an awesome 😎 video. I also added a Marine Master clasp to my SBDC033 Sumo. It’s the best upgrade you could do to any Seiko diver in my opinion 👍🏻💯
OMG!!! Is it a SPB187 with a SPB185 dial !?!?
I have the Willard but I’m missing the S/S bracelet. Original one is £436, any other 20mm seiko bracelets would fit or anything else I have to take into consideration? Thanks
No other bracelets fit right now from seiko as far as I know. Seiko OEM bracelets are INSANE PRICED if you want to buy it without the watch. It almost makes you think its better to buy the whole watch and sell the head! Which is something I did recently lol.
How do you feel about Strapcode's steel bracelets for seikos? They made one for the SPB143.
Not a big fan of them. Many only angus jubilee for skx and hexad oyster for sammies.
Did this upgrade a while back for my SPB149. But the thickness of the clasp bothered me and it just looks goofy
Fair enough!
Blue Willard.
I need a bracelet for my sla043 😢😢😢
All my screw in bracelets from strapcode fell apart normally caught them before the watch fell
But never lost a seiko
imagine having a gold rolex fall. i'd check my screws everytime i put it on. stresssssss
I've just got a Seiko Sumo, the PADI edition, and was hoping to try this cool mod (replacing the clasp for a mm300 one), will it fit?
Grats! and Yes it should fit Sumo as well!
Hello do you know about SBTM217?
Thanks!
Thank you for the support!
Best clasp ever. Thinner than the Fliplocks Rolex uses.
What are you talking about?
Did you swap the bezel on the SPB149? That's exactly what I want.
It's an apb185 with spb185 dial it has its own vid. I just put spb149 in the title because it fits it as well
@@EscapementWatch WANT
Are you sure this is an original Seiko clasp? Checked out the eBay listing and the description seems to avoid stating the brand and it is shipped from China.
Not 100% sure, but I did bring in a marine master 300 from kavar jewelers and compared and it's exactly the same. I wouldn't be surprised if they do produce the bracelets in China
@Escapement & Watch thank you. I have found another seller who was willing to confirm that they sell a genuine Seiko clasp. The only downside is that it's 50% more expensive. I had a bad experience once with a fake Tudor clasp which fell apart so I think I'll pay more for the assurance.
So I bought one for my M200 and when wearing it if too much wrist tension occurs the strap glides open on its own is this normal? Any feed back would be appreciated 👍🏻
Does the clasp work with SPB143?
Yes!
@@EscapementWatch thank you!
Would this work on the 63mas bracelet ?
It sure should. if its 18mm.
@@EscapementWatch I believe it is
Any idea where I can get a click spring for the SPB187? Mine actually broke after a month of use nd now clicks only 60 instead of 120
Wow that soon! No clue where to get it as it's too new. I'd call local Seiko service center in your area. Maybe the AD will cover it. If it falls under warranty
@@EscapementWatch Yeah! That soon, make sure you don't take it diving! lol pretty sure the trapped water in there causes some sort of issue
after salt water or chlorine always give it a rinse with fresh distilled water at home to get the salt or chemicals out. I find really eliminates issues.
I was really sad , my Seiko bracelet was at par with my 50 $ Casio
I take it these are not OEM Seiko clasps? A nice option to have either way.
They are Seiko OEM clasps - I have two
where to buy the clasp?
check the description
Have you tried the Strapcode ratcheting clasp? What do you think of it compared to this Seiko clasp?
Anybody find a way to tighten up the end links on the spb14x series yet?
Maybe try 2.5x 1.2mm tip spring bars. OEM is 1.1mm tip
@@EscapementWatch Thanks so much! Just installed them and it worked like a charm.
How heavy is it overall with this clasp?
Any advice for where I can find a good bracelet for the sbdc105?
because the case is coated with diashield the color of the steel will be off on aftermarket bracelets. so I suggest just getting the oem bracelet off a 143. check ebay/reddit/watchforums or gnomon M197213H0 part number
@@EscapementWatchWill do. Thank you!
no problem!
willard for me bro
I tried this and while it was nice, too bulky for my liking
Fair enough!👍
Just in time! Was going to upgrade my CLASP for SPB149.
By the way, is the color similar to SPP149's bracelet? The dia-shield coating.
I don't notice a huge difference but I wasn't really paying attention check my video out again but maybe try the titanium and steel version that might match it better.
And just to clarify the Willard and the mm200 are dia Shield coated as well
Wwwoooowwwww
183 & 149 May eyes are popping. Beauties. Have a sweet one FT
185/187 But I know what you mean!
MM200 for me!!!!
good choice!
With the Rolex Glide Lock it's all hidden. With the Seiko, the extension looks UGLY when extended. Seiko can do better.
I like your suggestion for the upgraded clasp but that does not make the original clasp with Diver's Extension "Useless"......
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Your bumper is 4 times louder than your narration level, learn about the audio chain! ):
This video is 1 year old. Our audio has improved in the new videos.
Pins are absolutely not the most secure way to connect links. Pins are FAR thinner and easier to bend or shear. Screw links are used on watches that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for a reason. If they're installed properly, they're 100% reliable. If someone is incompetent, they can fall out.
Not true Patek Phillip in 2012 switched from screws to pins because of broken screws and falling out. No matter how well installed they eventually will back out. As the links move with daily wear, the screws back out in micro increments over time. Engineering wise, it is a possible FAIL POINT. Pins are just the most secure in the world if installed properly. And the best manufacture in the world knows this for their top watch.
@@EscapementWatch agree with this as I've had watches using pins for decades and have never had one break or fall out.
Would you say a bracelet using screws needs to basically be maintained on a frequent basis to avoid this ?
pins and collars sucks