Hades - Avoid These Mistakes! | Tips For Improving Your Run And Beating The Game
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- Avoid These Mistakes! Codiak is back with a new Hades video and today he's sharing some important information that can completely transform your experience in the game. Don't miss these essential tips that can help improve your run and help you beat the game!
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Getting a reflect dash almost always makes the run significantly easier
It definitely does, and honestly an essential boon for new players
next dash boon you want is either from Aphrodite or Demeter... both gives more significant debuff to bosses
@@nickochioneantony9288 i dislike those two more than anything 😅 im just sad hunter dash doesnt stack with posiden
@@aldoard Ngl, though. Aphrodite and Demeter boons are actually really useful, especially if you've already maxed your Curse effect on the mirror. You might wanna reconsider picking Aphrodite or Demeter or any other gods that gives curse effects
@@n_aniki tried it out. Aphro works gr8!
"Didnt kill hades in undere ten runs so i figured out what i was doing wrong"
thats pretty depressing. im on 25 runs and just now got past the hydra thingy
I resonate with this comment do much. Bone hydra is super tough. I needed all my death defies to get through it.
Edit: now I get through EM hydra really quickly.
@@matthewgilligan2138 btw if your still struggling and looking for some advice i did Really well with a set up that can Burst stuff down quickly. I killed One Head immediately and then stayed in the safe Zone to set up my next One Hit.
Try to focus your runs on collecting Darkness and Keys to upgrade your mirror. It will make your runs much easier eventually.
One of the IGN reviewers beat Hades after 30ish runs, I got lucky on my 30th. I think a big part of it is recognizing enemy patterns, learning what weapons you like, and what boons/upgrades compliment them. It's something you gradually get better with (especially as you slowly upgrade everything).
I was stuck on the hydra for a couple days. I hadn't watched any of these online tip videos up to then. The tip that helped me the most (from another video) was to pick doors and choices for offense versus healing and defense. I was acting too aggressively/ not dodging much. I was originally obsessed with picking the heart and getting money for chiron. Beat the 2 heroes tonight for the first time on run 32 tonight (with staff) and happily lost at Hades. Won't be happily soon.. Good luck!
Pierced butterfly is good, but to the ones who usually take a lot of damage the broken spearpoint is the best option.
Thanks
Is the butterfly really that good?
-> Matanumi
Pi pi@@lunarity2009
Being too aggresive and not taking advantage of your Cast are the only "big mistakes" I see here. The rest are just tips.
I personally disagree with the "too aggressive part." Like, if you used the fist, the only way to deal damage is by being aggressive and getting close to the enemies
@@n_aniki Yea same, I find I take more damage the longer I stay on those stages. The faster they die the less mistakes I can make while dodging
@@alextheonewarrior Yes, exactly. The longer you stay there, the more damage you'll take and that'll be bad fro the run
@@n_aniki True, that's why my main weapon is the spear. Just fits perfectly at my playstyle. Getting decent damage while having a decent range to react to certain projectiles/attacks. The gauntlet deals shit tons of damage with Artemis crit buffs tho.
honestly, yeah- I don't use my cast like I should, probably will start to use it though.
> spear is slow and not good enougth for Dionysis boons
> shows literally that its fast for stack all five hangover with it
It seemed like there was a Hermes and Poseidon boon on it, as well as the Daedalus hammer for 3 strikes
It is too slow to properly utilize it. While you can get 5 stacks, keeping 5 stacks is much harder.
@@galatic-wyvern2993 it's not that slow. The problem is that if it's used with more faster weapons like fists or rail, they are much faster, and because of that, some other boons are way more efficient than mere five hangover stacks. Hangover vith the spear (if using thusting attack or throw) is fine enough
Ares' doom is so much better when using spear. But Dionysus' hangover is just fine if you aren't getting any Ares boons.
the spear is really fast with that one daedalus upgrade and it gets ridiculously good
On one of my absolute best runs Hades just let me pass. I was like, wtf? Hades just Rick Rolled me.
That's hilarious. He's like, "nah...you good"
Same here. When Hades let me pass it was my best run to that point, and I was honestly disappointed.
When he let me pass I was on like a 8 game win streak and I thought I'd be dead on that one, I was even streaming it to my friends and went "well here goes the streak" then hades just says "fine. Go" and we lit up lmao
I was playin with the guan spear, used 2/3 death defiances, didn't get the build I was hoping for, and accidentally exhausted my acorn in tartarus.
Must've been the 10th time you reached him lol.
He did that to me as well. I had finally gotten to the point where my skill with the sword was enough to challenge Hades, but I get to him and he's like, "Eh, just go." After that is when I found out that I got my last main story beat, so that was nice, but I was still disappointed that I couldn't finally get a win on him with the sword...
Use the butterfly, shows a clip of taking damage. Hm.
Cool profile pic
And no talk of the feather.
What are you talking about, the first clip the player cleared encounter without taking damage. Then the second the narrator talked about "not clearing every room without taking damage, you're clearing enough to make a difference." - they showed they took damage... How did you and 250 other blind people missed that nice piece of editing.
The pierced butterfly is... Okay. It definitely has an effect, but unless you're really good at the game, other keepsakes like the hourglass (from Charon) and the cthonic coin purse (from hypno) are excellent for getting a head start and providing a huge amount of survivability, while also giving the player the option to switch off of those keepsakes. Though I will have to say the pierced butterfly is a decent way to practice a more deliberate, careful play style
Sometimes try to play carefully is frustrating... I always suggest casual player to go for high damage with focused boons (so choose your artifact flexibly).
Like having the Nyx artifact while playing with the Gauntlets (you can consistently backstabbing with Gauntlets), or equiping the Skull Earring (from Meg) while you focusing on collecting the Centaur Hearts.
But in general, the Acorn (from Euridyce) offers significant help against Hades.
@@nickochioneantony9288 The Broken Spearpoint from Patroclus is also really useful for new players trying to beat hades
For new players easy clear keepsake order is athena, coin purse, skelly's tooth. If you aren't far enough use Skelly at the furthest stage you can get till you can pass it reliably without it.
@@lProN00bl Nah, the Skelly keepsake is a bit of a trap tbh. Cerberus' collar gives you extra base health, which means extra health using death defiance and a higher healing cap. Skelly's tooth is, technically, just a one time healing item. Nice in a clutch if you're low on death-defiances as you reach Styx and it's unlikely Athena's gonna pop up to give you one back.... I've not actually seen how equipping a god's keepsake affects the Styx tunnel rewards though, so it may in fact be more beneficial to use Athena's to have a chance at getting back a death defiance if your health bar is big enough.
@@merchantarthurn But for the health, it has to be equipped the whole time. With Skelly, you can gain benefit from other keepsakes for your death defiance uses, then use skelly for one location, which means that it can be more valuable to use Skelly when you are out of defiance. For Athena, maybe its a good decision, but if you know that in the next location you will not survive without a death defiance, then can you really risk not getting the replenished boon from Athena?
Just realized this is a year old, so only posting this for others still watching this video
Ares and Demeter is dmg, and Aphrodite and Poseidon is utility? Wtf?
Aphrodite has the highest % damage boons in the game, and Poseidon basically allows you to trivialize every single enemy in the game that isn’t a boss with massive wallsplat damages. Ares’ doom is very safe but low dps unless you can get stacking doom or merciful end on it, while Demeter’s slow is etremely useful utility.
He's specifically referring to cast-related boons at that point. Aphrodite's Cast boon gives it longer range, Poseidon's gives it knockback, and Athena's gives it deflect.
Poseidon wall splat in temple of styx goes *brrrrrrrrrrr*
@@jocloud31 you mean shorter range?
@@mr.pluppy8240 yeah, I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that
Demeter is freaking op, she slows a lot on the enemies and have boons where the stacks cause the enemies to blast those charges... And the best, the freezing effect also can happen to the bosses
In regards to chain lightning, i find that it makes Hades an easier fight. It allows you to focus him and still clear his minions. On top of that, hades uses those skulls that send a wave of damage out if you do not destroy them fast enough and the chain lightning foes help clear clusters of those quickly. Not ideal for raw damage. But to help clear annoying backup in that last encounter, i find it helpful (but only for certain weapons)
In some situations chain lightning is essentially double damage too. I noticed this on my last run using the fists, the chain lightning was doing the exact same damage as my weapon *to the enemy I was hitting*
It even started outweighing it based on the upgrades i took
One of my favorite builds was using adamant rail, getting a seeking bullet upgrade via hammer, chain lightning and Artemis' seeking arrow. Hits accurately, extra damage, and don't have to worry about Hades' reinforcements. Can't believe I went into a run without actually strategizing and ended up with a pretty solid build that helped my first successful run.
@@Sofiaode18 seeking arrow on fast weapons is amazing amounts of extra dps.
You can be aggressive, aggressive as hell, if you build right. Depending on what boons you get early on you might want to focus some over others. I had a Dio/Zeus build on the Satan version of the Rail that absolutely chewed through everything, nabbing the the three in a row special from a Daedalus hammer just made it ten times meaner. I favor reflect dash over attack so getting that as soon as possible really helps too.
The moment I started to actually slow down, I did so much better
Nice j u Gs
@@Peter-rx4dy 😭
I really prefer the ploom. It’s bonus comes from just clearing floors quickly and it buffs your move speed and gives you a chance to dodge attacks. I got it to 25% and had some upgraded gloves so I wasn’t taking damage from 30% of attacks landed on me, and I was fast. Not to mention, I don’t have to have flawless encounters, just quick ones.
Plume, Zag aspect gauntlets, Athena attack, and dodge boons from Hermes is more fun than people know. Very balls to the wall style of play
I think movement speed is a good buff that works for most of the game but it REALLY hurts a melee build in the final boss when he does the lasers in every direction, it’s way harder to stay in the safe zone between the beams when you’re moving super fast
@spacejesus6581 when he does that you can always hide behind that large boulder to the left, works like a charm lol
To me, the Pierced Butterfly is a training tool, not a serious tool for heated runs. The 20-30% damage it's worth... isn't actually that much since it's additive, not multiplicative. If you've already stacked +200% damage on your primary damage source (not even a little bit hard to do), then that 30% is really only 10% more damage than you would have had otherwise.
That said, using it early on to _learn_ how to play without getting hit is a critical part of learning the game and getting better at it.
Still, later on... **ahem** _much_ later on, which I won't go into because spoilers... there's another keepsake that gives much, much bigger permanent (per run) benefits that _don't_ go away when you take it off in Styx in favor of a defensive keepsake.
The keepsake in question can pretty reliably more than double your total damage output and give serious defensive boons as well... so don't just hear "butterfly = good" and never use anything else. There are times when it's absolutely _not_ the best keepsake to take, plus it limits you from seeking specific builds by taking god keepsakes to guarantee shots at the boons you want (and to ease prophecy clearing, which gives much faster progress than grinding!)
There's also something to be said for taking the Plume to train yourself how to clear quickly, which can sometimes be a better strategy in certain battles with tons of damage flying around and not that much ability to avoid it. Most of Styx falls into that category for me, especially the tiny rooms, where it's often much better to just ignore damage, even ongoing poison damage, and finish the room in a second or two, than to make three or four runs to the antidote fountain.
i always use the teeth i got from skelly in my runs! it gives you death defiance and if you get it to 3 stars it fulls your health completely for one death.
Does it stack with the mirror upgrade? (Purple gems?)
@@onod32 Yep, you get total 4 Death Defiance
@redx 4 deaths in a escape attempt
Try using a different keepsake at first, then swap it out once ur death defiances are gone. Much more efficient that way
@@lalobenimadho7301 that’s smart
On the topic of the "use pierced butterfly" tip, it's not a particularly good keepsake to use if you're new or bad. I would recommend the Evergreen Acorn keepsake over pierced butterfly if you're having trouble on any of the bosses, especially Hades. Even at rank 1, the evergreen acorn will block 3 hits from bosses, that's about 120 damage from Hades (give or take).
You're absolutely right Andrew. It's definitely a keepsake designed for more experienced players, but it's definitely going to benefit those that can take advantage of it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Beginner guide yet you instantly spoil the game by saying the last boss
Anyone with a bit of intelligence would realize Hades is the last boss, the game is named after him, he is your father who hates you and doesn't want you to escape. I figured it was him way before I fought him for the first time.
@@mikevisby8744 i totally agree with you i knew that too and i haven’t reached him yet, but it would be good if he mentioned that before
@@mikevisby8744 Anyone with a bit of intelligence would expect the last boss to not be that obvious, lol
Well who would you have be the final boss MrThetester?
@@peronafanman Jojo
The other thing about Pierced Butterfly is that it does make you play WAY safer when you’re learning the game. It’s more concrete incentive to not take damage, something that’s also very helpful for your runs haha
Small correction, Hades isn’t the god of death, he is the god of the dead. Thanatos in Greek mythology is the god of death and the one that comes for you at death. Hades is the one who makes sure you’re going where your soul needs to go, basically Hades is the CEO of the underworld
I prefer the lambent plume. With the Hermes boon upgraded from the musician in Tartarus I can get 50% dodge by just tanking the damage. I focus on damage with the twin fists and it's a really good bonus to dodge 50% of Hades attacks and having Athena's blocking dash for the rest. If you manage to get the regen after you use defiance boon. Hades is real easy to beat
I think the spiked collar is good for when your getting used to enemies since it let's you take some extra hits but once you get used to enemies butterfly better
I know this post is long but it's got some really good tips this video fails to mention.
I disagree completely with the butterfly charm advice, sure it's nice to have that bonus before you get all the other charms. but changing out your charm at the end of every section is key to obtaining legendary and duo boons which are some of the best attacks in the game. If you also have the ability to re-roll the exits to each encounter you can ensure you get more boons in a run. At first I recommend starting with coin purse seeing what boons you get through the first section then picking the second boon based off of what duo boon or legendary boon you are trying to obtain. the codex can be quite helpful in this if you have the upgrade that tells you what boons each god has available and the prerequisite boons needed to get them. For instance you can't get the boon that causes jolted before you have an attack that does lightning damage. Can't have a boon that spreads hangover before you have an attack that causes it. ect.
Like for instance I had a run once where I was favoring Zeus and Dionisius but also Demeter, I ended up with combo runes from Demeter/Zeus that made it so the jolt effect of my lightning never wears off which ended up being a ton of passive damage. I also ended up with my festive fog clouds causing lightning strikes and my bloodstones sitting after the fog ends also had lightning strikes. Demeter also has an upgrade where not having blood stones in your inventory increases your damage and reduces the damage you take. So I would just throw them out at the start of every encounter and let them do all the work.
Artemis is also really good at improving other boons. her combo with Demeter is especially good, if you can also get the combo with Poseidon that does mirror copies of your casts...that becomes insane boss damage very quickly. I've had up to 10 crystals all firing at the same time. it becomes obvious why almost every boss has invulnerable states when you do like 6000 damage in 4 seconds. Also pressure points is a good choice in any build as it lets you critical any damage you do.
It should be noted that darkness, gems and keys are terrible rewards for an encounter and should be avoided or re-rolled when possible. Money is ok if you are low but often if I have a re-roll I re-roll the money too. If possible you want every encounter to result in a boon, pom of power, the yellow potion (once you have the upgrade that makes them give you a random +1 to boon) or Charon's shop (so long as you have 150 gold minimum). Also the first demi-god the guy with the rock, should be skipped unless you are low on money. He gives a fine amount of darkness so at the beginning it is fine but once your mirror is full, darkness becomes nearly worthless in a lot of ways. It is also very easy to farm later on in the game by just turning the heat down to 0 and using the hidden aspects of whatever weapon has extra darkness collection. As every boss will drop a lot of darkness as a reward and you should have the mirror upgrade that heals you based on collected darkness these runs should be exceptionally easy once you have the hidden aspects of a weapon unlocked.
also worth mentioning a Charon's well run can be quite nice. when you equip the charm that gives you more encounters before the upgrades wear off you can end up chaining multiples together though it can be a little on the random side it's a great way for beginners to get through hades at some point.
There are certain sections of the game where the weapon upgrade boons (hammer) appears quite frequently. When it does not appear if you have the mirror ability that lets you re-roll the rewards you can often force it to be the weapon upgrade, one such area is the start of the 3rd section "Elysium". Sometimes you won't get to choose the weapon upgrade as the reward for the first encounter of this section. but if you re-roll one of the exits it comes up quite often. The final shop Charon has (right before hades) will many times have an anvil that upgrades your weapon a 3rd time...this should ONLY be bought if you don't like the weapon upgrades you have gotten before that point as you will lose one and gain two.
one final tip, if you want to have a really good run start with either a Dionisius boon or a Poseidon boon and then get the other as soon as you can. (the boons you pick need to be main attacks like drunken flourish and flood shot ect) they have a combo boon that makes all boons you find from there on epic or better.
I mainly get darkness for healing thanks to that one mirror ability, so they're not totally useless.
Kinda better advice then the actual video, good job
I'm pretty sure I got the epic rarity boom with ares and dionysus
This just dropped on Xbox last week, and I’ve been loving it. These tips are gonna for sure help me get through that last battle.
This is very helpful, thank you. I've been playing mostly with the shield and spear and got to Hades once so far. Again, thanks for taking the time.
remember aoe skills are beneficial against hades cause he summons adds, specially if you play +4 measures when hades is putting out minibosses
I think the harpy feather duster is kind of underrated.
Yeah, 5% doesn’t sound like that high of a chance but consider the sheer amount of pots and vases in each room.
I guarantee you’ll find at least ONE health item in every room which can come in clutch during a rougher run.
This is why Dusa is my favorite character, her keepsake carried me to Styx for the first time
Yeah, it's the reason I gave full health for every boss fight, plus while looking for vases I found fishing spots I would have missed.
@@ReiHeathcliff oh about the fishing spot thing: after you complete a combat encounter, if you hear a little bell chime that means there’s a fishing spot somewhere in the current room.
Be sure to listen for it!
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 this is a huge help, thanks a ton
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 fishing spot? wtf
The way he said Ares lmao
The way he said demeter 🙄
I thought it was just me lol this dude butchered these names
another great thing about the pierced butterfly is that it rewards you for being careful, which makes you play more deliberately, which makes you take less damage. If I'm taking an encounter "don't take ANY DAMAGE" I tend to focus on zoning and that shit wins runs.
Great video. Beat hades in 31 runs. First time playing the game. Took me 3 days.
Duuuuude! Spoilers in the first second of this video!
How? The name of the game is literally "Hades", it's like Diablo, you wouldn't expect to face them?
Thinking about it as someone who has defeated Hades a few times at this point the Pierced Butterfly tip is really nice. It could definitely allow me to take on harder runs as I have learned a lot more. And thinking about it I do agree with the thought that you generally don't get hit too much early on so it's just a benefit.
The biggest mistake I made was buying the game. It’s so addicting. I can’t stop playing it.
I’d adjust the tip “plan your boons for facing Hades” to be more “choose boons with a plan”. You could get a build that is brutal against a single enemy, but leaves you to being overwhelmed by multiple foes in Elysium and the Temple of Styx. Be conscious of whether a boon should go on the attack, special, dash, or whether it should be a supporting boon. This leads me to why I don’t believe the pierced butterfly is the best keepsake. I will often use olympian god keepsakes to set up builds.
For instance, when using Zeus’ aspect of the Shield of Chaos, I start with Zeus’ keepsake so I can get Thunder Flourish for my special. From there I’ll snag Demeter or Poseidon for the attack if they pop up, I might also grab Aphrodite. I like these because of they have higher damage boosts, but their secondary effects also help with crowd control. I prefer Demeter and Poseidon because of the Duo boons I can get with them and Zeus. For the dash, I usually prefer Poseidon or Athena, maybe Dionysus.
So while there is the bare bones of a plan. Starting with an olympian’s keepsake, I can set the foundation for the build. The build is flexible so I can go different directions depending on the RNG of the run so I don’t screw myself over waiting for the perfect boon, although using another olympian’s keepsake in Asphodel can help if there are two key boons to a build. For instance, using Chiron’s aspect for the bow, I like getting Artemis for the special and Aphrodite for attack. Their Duo boon adds +150% crit damage to weak inflicted foes. Attack sets up weak and the targeting to then unleash a volley of arrows that can crit. I might even use Poseidon’s keepsake at this point because his splash dash or flood shot is great for creating breathing room for the bow. Poseidon isn’t typically useful against bosses, but since the bow is so slow it can be easy to be overwhelmed by large groups of enemies and end your run before making it to Hades. However, the setup on the attack and special will tear through Hades.
Also, another comment about the pierced butterfly, there are certain weapons it pairs better with. I would generally suggest avoiding it if you are using the sword or fists, since those are very melee oriented and hard to completely avoid damage unless you are playing very cautiously and slowly. At which point, consider using the olympian keepsakes to set up a build. Keepsakes that work well being swapped in for the final areas are Lucky Tooth/Spiked Collar (depends on your life totals and how many death defiances you have left) or Broken Spearpoint/Evergreen Acorn. Broken Spearpoint is better for quick damage that chips away at your health (ie Champion longbows shooting 3 shots or Snakestone lasers). It’s not super great for the Hades fight because often times his attacks happen too far apart, unless you are still struggling with his laser attack. The Evergreen Acorn is nice because it will (when maxed out) ignore damage from the first five hits you take.
I would like to add as another tip for defeating Hades is to learn his attack patterns. Learn when you can attack and when you can dodge. The better you get at this, the more damage you will do and the less you will take.
Just a little correction, no big deal: the metagame buffs like the mirror and keepsakes are "rogue-*lite*" elements, not "rogue-like" elements. The rogue-like elements are things like permadeath, randomly or procedurally generated rooms/rewards, and progression being more related to how good/quickly you can play the game rather than how strong your character gets. The rogue-lite elements are the ones that actually make your character stronger across all your runs and give you a sense of progression because your character gets stronger and you're filling out a list.
Rogue like sucks..lite is wayy better
why you spoiled the last boss
I'm loving this game. Most fun I've had in a while. Just started playing Friday. Only on like my 13th run
Enjoy it Donald, it’s one of the best games of the last few years!
The scariest most damaging bloodstone is Dionysus cast combined with 3 duo boon between Dio/Demeter/Zeus.
It will be 4x damage (cast+chill+lightning+jolted), dual curse (chill+jolted).
Totally wipe the floor with bosses just with 2-3 rounds of casting.
Pierced butterfly is memes and is not a good recommendation for new players. Beginners (and really anyone) should focus on upgrading Acorn and the olympian keepsakes that let you force boons.
Also you forgot the most important noob tip: get merciful end! Get it on everything.
I've been a little disappointed by the butterfly even at full stack 30% is not that much considering the "opportunity cost" of having no other trinket for the whole run. I prefer the second to last trinket I think it's one of the most powerful ones because it works for every build and you don't have to worry about performance in every room. You may end up with way for bang for your buck than the butterfly.
Totally agree with all of these! Personally though, I really like Achille's gift. -30% taken damage goes a longg way
totally agree! You can switch to it later in the run too. It really isn´t needed in the beginning, so you can just start with a different keepsake like starting with more gold.
especially for a newer player who can´t get out of rooms without taking damage yet
Oh i never thought of that!! :> ill have to do that now that i think of it
Honestly should use Zeus's so I can get Smoldering Air hahaha
That wouldn’t help me. 30% of zero damage isn’t a big boost.
😂 who am I kidding. 😛
Wow these are so useful, I can't believe I could have used the the mirror to upgrade my abilities! No way!!!
"over a dozen" 24 is over a dozen yes it is 2 dozens
Hmmm is that math you speak?
I SMELL A WITCH!
Beat him in 23 runs, 36 runs now and i can get to him but cant beat him
For me:
- Play more on the distance
- Use Athena's and Aphrodite's boons to mitigate damage
- Prioritize permanent upgrades at first
- The bloodstone is all about what boon you infuse it with
- Damage focused boons: Artemis, Ares, Demeter
- Use the pierced butterfly playing smart
- Synergies 4:14
Im actually glad that it only took me 4 runs to beat hades. I guess playing dead cells all these years finally payed off
Defeated Hades after 15 runs, I got lucky with 2 hammers for my gun run, infinite 3 shot ammo, and 5 explosives for my special. Stacked with some stuff from Different gods such as special from Dionisius, and Artemis with crit and seeking arrow, I got enough damage to overpower most things at the end.
Thanks for the video! :)
I can’t BELIEVE no ones hyping up Patroclus’ keepsake?? That thing keeps you alive FOREVER.
I really like to start my runs with cosmic egg but I thought the damage bonus was lost if you took damage, thanks for the tip
Ares Doom dash so far is one of my favorites and easily to exploit against enemies. You can use the room dash to damage them and it can add up. One dash has killed smaller enemies pretty instantly.
The god name pronunciations make me wonder if schools review mythology anymore these days
Super important tip. THere are a lot fo attacks especially late game with bosses where dodging to them is the best option and you get invincibility frames to avoid the damage. It feels really weird since most games heavily punish doing that but it's almost required to avoid pretty much any thing to do with a spear or shield.
shield block is better than you think. there are certain builds where the spear is used long range quite effectively as well.
Helpful this, cheers.
The mirror of night makes you stronger? Wow, what a great tip! Reminds me of that time I learned that SCVs in StarCraft can collect resources.
I love Hades!!! Yup, I'm an "aggressive player with janky builds" a full on button masherand I dig all your Hades videos
For each weapon I have a certain build for each and it helped me to get a streak over 20 escapes
Chaos Egg Keepsake really helped me out with awesome Chaos Boon effects 🔥🔥🔥
First clear on attempt 16, that's when I discovered the power of dash attack builds. - spam attack dash with any of the weapons and pray to Athena for a deflect dash
- use blood shot (O button) and stack 3+ on the bosses.
-always pick the Daedus hammer when faced with the choice.
-dash dash dash, and dash more!
Depends on weapons sword , shield, and knuckles work very well with this. And yes Daedalus Hammers are the number 1 pick always since they drastically buff your base build.
Instead of the butterfly I use the bone glass at the end plus getting wheel of charon buffs that often give me 60% more damage and some move speed since they'll last long enough to reach the final boss
I was proud to clear Tartarus in my 7th run. I can’t believe how damn good this game is! 🤘🏻❤️
Tbh the god boons are being slept on. I know they don’t offer much in the way of damage runs but being able to consistently get rarer boons (in conjunction with the late game mirror upgrades) for gods you know synergize with your weapon I feel like is more impactful then most other keepsakes, minus a few
I was going to say that vey thing. Planning your build, not fully, but by trying to focus on 1 or 2 gods and some potential synergies, is way more helpful that just hoping you run into a god boon that works with your chosen weapon or playstyle.
@@hurraylolth hard agree. I’m a bow main and as I go thru higher and higher heats I’d always rather get Artemis or Dionysus on my special than have, like, 18% extra damage from the pierced butterfly by the hades fight.
Always take Skelly or Cerberus for hades tho
Pierced Butterfly alternative : focus on Dionysus to get the Strong Drink Boons. It will give you 3-5% damage bonus per fountain you found... so if you lucky enough to get it on Tartarus, then you can have the average of 20% damage bonus while having full health before facing Hades.
Then focus on Damage Reduction Boons (Dionysus, Aphrodite). Use the Skull Earring on the last stage for additional 30% dmg bonus while your Hp is below 40%, combine it with alot Centaur Hearts if you prefer that (I once have 430ish of Hp, so the threshold of the Skull Earring can be easily achieved).
actually you can get more than 20% because mid area fountains also give the bonus as well. I recommend dion then posideon in hopes that you can get their duo boon the next time you see either of them and the rest of your boons will be epic or better the rest of the run. Great way to end up with multiple duo boons and legendary boons.
A lot of people don’t realize 10% less damage taken is 10% more health, it’s a different stat that does the same thing
I like how Zeus is in the tumbnail, fits very well with the title, considering Greek Mythology
My favorite build so far involved the shield with doom on the special and an extra ability that made the shield hit 4 enemies instead of one. I got that to be so powerful.
Ultimately it leads down to use your own comfy build. So far I have completed 3 runs and I’ve been using my own comfy build. That is: Strong Drink (Dionysus), Divine Dash (Athena) or other deflect ability, and some critical attack boons from Artemis, the freeze ray from Demeter is also a nice addition. These are my must have boons to complete a run. You have healing, defense, and good damage output. Don’t forget to use the keepsakes in order to meet the gods you want immediately. Good luck!👍
Note to everyone that i highly recommend to play as aggresive as possible. But not as aggresive to the point that you tanked the damages. But be quick and fast. Hit enemy aggresively and when you see the enemy telegraphed their attacks, quickly dodge it. That's why i prefer boons that grant "near miss" evasion bonus like Zeus had. I recommend being aggresive because when you play too passive, it tends to overwhelm you because there are a lot of going on and its best to quickly purge all the threats ahead before they even do any of it to you.
finally picked this game up, did 7 runs and got to the first boss every time and got frustrated so i went to bed. when i came back today, on my 8th run, i used the spear and got reflect dash and the hold down jab hammer skill thing, crusied all the way through to the 3rd boss and killed the minotaur, almost the other guy before dying right at the end. it was so satisfying it got me hooked
Your 1st point is super subjective. I, and a lot of other people, learn faster by getting in the action and seeing the mob/boss' patterns. No better way to do that than get in their face and see what they do about it. Will you take damage more at 1st? Of course you will. But if you actively try and learn from these encounters you will progress in skill far more quickly than playing back and "safe."
You're right, it is subjective, but that's the whole point. Dash-based builds or more aggressive builds are one of the biggest culprits behind players not reaching the "end-game". It's not that they're not good, they 100% are, but you have to know what you're doing. It's the same concept with games like Dead Cells where overly-aggressive players with skill were rewarded while overly-aggressive not so skilled players ended up dead. It's a fine line I'll give you that, and you're right, nothing replaced trial and error and learning, but for me, that only makes sense after you spend the time learning the game inside and out. It's a different set of opinions that's all, I don't think one is better than the other, just different. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the video.
I for one often get clumsy on the run, so Pierced Butterfly seems like a no go if you still want to enjoy the variety in the mid 10-60hrs of gameplay.
Taking the butterfly will not allow you to take other artifact for the rest of your run. I suggest new players to unlock majority of artifacts to its highest rank first, then you can hit a sweetspot according to your boons and the mirror power.
Butterfly also prevents you from manipulating your build. If you run butterfly you better be happy to be at the mercy of rng on which gods you get
Great video for a Hades beginner!
Do you keep the butterfly upgrade if you unequip it? Because I change to Patroclus' spearpoint when I get to Styx, every time.
I enjoy using the pom boon and maxing out my build through the run
Pierced butterfly is a fun but gimmicky play style and probably average to above average. If you are struggling to do full clears you should avoid that one entirely. Pick a boon you want to start, coin purse for act 2 and most importantly throw on the broken spearpoint for act 3 and either that or the extra life for act 4 and it will save you a ton of trouble.
yes, the butterfly simply doesn't add significant damage output (critical is generally better).
I agree with your artifact selection except the act 4, my simple go-to is the acorn (from euridyce), it can block hades damage (20-40 damage per hit, multiple by 5, then it can save you a maximal of 200 health), while the Lucky Tooth only gives you 100 hp. The broken spearpoint is useful to negate poison if you struggle to do any long range / area damage in the satyr tunnel.
@@nickochioneantony9288 Acorn is great, especially for extreme measures 4. I think for most new players though the spear point is still better as with all the tick damage in styx it will save them more health and its more important for them to go into hades with as much health's and DD as possible. Tooth is great for new players at the beginning and at the very end for stubborn defiance builds.
Mostly though Butterfly is just for memes and one of the worst new player options
Chain lightning can be great against Hades, it seems to boost Exagryph’s damage by a lot. First run I cleared I had that and Artemis’ supporting fire and I melted him.
Yeah. Zeus is great for anything that has low base damage high attack speed, because he adds flat damage instead of percentile boost.
I was going to quit this game but I started to realize no run was identical to the previous round even though I kept dying and then the dialogue kept motivating me because they were aware of my failure. So you're definitely intended to die a lot.
So you only played 1 run and was going to quit?
@@xSpeakerYT i knew it was a roguelike which are games i generally don't prefer. I like platformers, RPGs, and turn based monster hunting. I heard so many good things about it and I was going to quit but this was definitely a gem and I'm glad that I kept going.
@@eliscore Yea, the storybeats are amazing and really pushes you to keep playing, along with all the playstyles and upgrades that exists.
interesting, thanks for the tips
So hades just released to Xbox one and this really gives me an idea of how to get gud before I even know the controls so thanks man
You bet brother! Don’t forget to check out our Wish I Knew Sooner tips and tricks vid. Lots of info in there as well
Few days of gaming new to this. Over hundert runs in. Haven't killed hades with the sword its so hard! But with shield an now also on heat two.
Just keep grinding. Problem is.. The further you go, the harder it's to train the enemies and stuff. So hades won't be as usual as for example Meg hydra etc. I was always fd in elysium but the more often I got there the better I became!
Still much fun. Always happy when I come a little further ❤️
Good video, but as a reminder on Hades boss, he summons numerous minions which pile on can be a nightmare to deal with. Have multiple target attacks isn’t always a bad thing on the final boss.
It's true, but if your runs are anything like mine you'll get those multi-target boons naturally anyways. I always seem to have one or two boons that just aren't great in terms of selection, so I usually try and pick up something keeping your point in mind. Good reminder though!
@@LegacyGamingUS you should also note there are combo boons that completely change the effects of certain attacks you have already collected. often times making a crappy boon suddenly excellent. A good example is how trash Demeter's cast boon is, those crystals only are good against things standing still...until you get the combo boon with Artemis that makes them last longer and track enemies faster. Get another combo boon with Poseidon that makes all your casts double and suddenly it's a boss melting game changer.
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Late to this video but as someone who's put in over 150 runs on multiple platforms, one major tip, like with any game, is LEARN ATTACK PATTERNS. People meme on dark souls and the like, for being hard, but those games heavily enforce pattern recognition. Monster Hunter is another prime example of pattern recognition. In Hades, knowing what enemies can do will help you avoid things. Even from offscreen sometimes. Knowing what enemy to prioritize in group fights can help a huge amount.
A correction for the video - this is a rogue-lite game, not a roguelike one.
It counts as both, same with Darkest Dungeon.
They have enough aspects of a rougelike to be considered one.
Your argument is probably the fact that you get upgrades that you keep, but that's only a part of what makes a rougelike and you don't need all the parts to be a rougelike.
ok heres a great question what do i do with darkness once i max out the mirror, and yes i mazed out both sides
Not to be too nitpicky but it's "Roguelike" not "Rougelike" at 2:01 Rouge is a type of makeup or the bat from Sonic Heroes, Rogue is the game
The correct term for this game is actually a "roguelite"
@@n_aniki Rougelike is equally correct though.
Just because the game has perma-upgrades doesn't remove its status as a rougelike.
There are a number of criteria to be considered a rougelike, and you don't need to fulfill all of the criteria.
For butterfly part
Over flowing cup to get early strong drink
At least for me that results in more dmg by the time I get to the final boss plus not needing to keep it equipped for the effect I can swap it out for anything I feel I will need, even the butterfly
It's funny you said people are not spending darkness, this game has been nothing short of a great experience for me so far and I'm taking my time 😀
I mean the butterfly is nice, but even if you manage to get 20-30% you have to weigh that against the more reliable items like the conch or even chaos egg which almost guarantee better boons.
Even the hourglass can be pretty magnificent giving you anything from bounus damage to additional healing for upwards of 10 encounters for relatively cheap
I got Hades recently and so far the furthest I'll get is to the boss fight in Elysium, and I'll take out Asterius, but then of course- die to Theseus. I got so close once, he was below half health and then- it was taken from me. Was literally shaking in adrenaline smh
Same brother same lol
yep! their fight is always the make or break to my run :, (
@@akinstar7326 I'm just lucky that now I can breeze past them
*If I can make it to them*
It's easier if you get deflect on your dash
Few more mistakes I can think of:
Not taking enough risks: sometimes, you are presented with a harder room with better rewards - it's better to take them. Even if you get substantially damaged for taking the risk, the reward helps to mitigate what you went through over time.
Overblowing your cash: sometimes it's way too tempting to buy stuff from charon or his wells, but what you should be prioritizing are boons or upgrades that you need. Especially in styx, some of the stuff there are way valuable compared to the other shops.
Early game definitely bring cerberus, I find myself using him regularly even though I'm no longer a beginner
Damn was just looking for some tips as I keep failing in Elysium, didn’t know I was going to run into spoilers about the final boss.. ;(
Either way, still feel like the video helped, appreciate it!
Does it help when I say that the game isn't over after beating him?
There is even small biome past him.
After beating that, you will soon see that that was the easy part.
Can you make a part 2 and 3 that would be very helpful
The biggest mistake I made would be the blade weapon upgrade. The one the give me +2 heal per hit is usually a terrible choice. And maxhealth is far more important than I expect. Probably because I'm more into utility than anything. I'm only on 16 heat, so I'm not sure how it would work in higher heat situation.
I actually love that upgrade, it served me quite well.
It really helped me win my two first runs, thought i see how it could totally ruin a run aswell.
Get attack speed up from Hermes and some dash attack boosts and that small health bar doesn't even matter until Champs and Hades
I think you mean the spear upgrade that reduces hp by 50 but makes your secondary attack give you 2 hp per hit, "Excalibur" the blade weapon upgrade gives you a protective aura that slows down projectile attacks as well as more HP not less.
it should be noted that the 2hp per hit is per enemy hit, per time hit, as well. So I have found that charging up the attack to throw it is the most effective way to heal with it. especially a pile of numbskulls. even better if you have the upgrade that makes it charge faster, hit a larger area, or continue 80% longer.
if you hit a pack of 5 enemies twice you have healed for 20. using it against a single enemy is often not worth while. The spinning also clears out projectiles so it's great to use against spreaders if you don't have a deflect.
to really make this weapon work, put on Cerberus collar to buff up your hp and collect centaur hearts until you have at least 100 to 120hp. (also mirror upgrades) I have found that for most runs having much over 150hp isn't needed. unless the pact is increasing enemy damage. It's a little bit of a challenge to find a good opportunity to charge up and throw the attack sometimes but if you can get it down it's basically a free win machine because you can always replace any HP you lose if you are careful.
@@TheNitroG1 I think they mean the hammer upgrade Cursed slash for the sword. Not aspect of guan yu.
It becomes good if it's combined with Athena call and stuff to get call quicker, as well as loads of damage reduction, from Aphrodite for example.
Meanwhile me still struggling against the bone snake boss in the lava area
Honestly, I prefer the Pom Blossom keepsake just because I feel like the leveling up of my skills is what helps me increase my damage and strategy the most. It's probably because I'm one of those aggressive players trying to finish a run asap, and I do get some damage along the way
If I use it I just use it at the end. the best way to generate damage in hades is to get Duo boons and legendary boons. If you get the upgrade that lets your codex tell you what boons each god has available it also tells you what boons you need to get the combo boons available. There is some nice stuff in there like converting Dionysus festive fog into a lightning storm and then later a blizzard if you add in Demeter's duo boon.
So what I like to do i start with the coin purse and the mirror upgrade that lets you change your encounter rewards randomly. I re roll any exit that has Coins, Gems, Darkness, a key or centaur heart. (only one per exit deal with what you get)
The point of this is to try and force more chances for a boon to come up, if you have a charm that summons a specific god like the wine cup it will happen almost for certain if you haven't collected a boon from that good since you equipped their charm.
If you have a choice between a boon and a shop stop, unless you are low on health always go for the boon as you can always spend the money later on in the run. Also always check but very infrequently buy things from charon's well. Most upgrades are not worth it unless you have the hourglass equipped. unless you know your are facing a boss within 6 chambers, you need a quick heal or you are missing a death defiance charge (if your mirror talents are for multiple)
The butterfly is okay, but i always think in doblouns so i got the purse of hypnos or sometimes i need the extra life for Hades so i take the collar of cerberus... It's mostly all depends on what you are to prioritize in the run rather than "play this way"
Get Chriron aspect bow asap. Take adamant arrowhead for the Artemis boon start. Take Artemis special and crit buffs. GG
My favourite build is definitly with Varatha, Aspect of Guan Yu, with almost a full artemis boon buil with Serrated Point from a Daedalus Hammer. There's a chaos boon increasing dash-attack damage which i always want as well. As basic attack boon i like athena, aphrodite or artemis cause i love the crit. Deadly Dash, Support Fire, Hunter's Mark, Pressure Points, Strong Drink and Poseidon's Aid, Aphrodite's Aid, Dionysus's Aid or Artemis's Aid. Since i'm still not that good at the game and somewhat frequently have to use the lifesteal of my swirl to regain some of my hp i use the Pom Blossom instead of Pierced Butterfly
You should try using Aspect of Chiron with Artemis' special boons. It really helps a lot
@@n_aniki I have. So much fun
Just re-found this game a few days ago. Beat the Athens hero and that fucking Minotaur finally make it to the rd level and get wiped by poison mobs.
outro soundtrack is dope
If you want to make runs easy, use adamant rail, specialize your boons and hammers into special damage and utility, and just mad dash around the arena while spamming q. It can get boring but it is an effective way because it already does lots of damage.