Badminton Women's Doubles - Korea v China | London 2012 Olympics
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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Re-live the badminton women's doubles group A game between South Korea and China from the London 2012 Olympics, 31 July.
Badminton made its debut as a demonstration sport at the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich. It was not until the 1992 Games in Barcelona that it was officially included on the Olympic programme, with men's and women's singles and doubles events. The mixed doubles event made its debut in 1996 at the Atlanta Olympic Games. Since then, the number of events has remained unchanged.
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It's hard to win a game but it's even harder to lose
Especially if both pairs are trying to lose 😂
@@TheTradge 🤣🤣exactly
Hahahahaa
Is that Confucius or Sun Yat Sen
this is one of the most "famous" matches in badmington history
*infamous
"ridiculous"
🤣🤣🤣
disgraceful*
Badmington 🤣🤣
Context: if the Chinese team win this match, they are going to be pitted against the OTHER Chinese team, which would ruin China's plans to get the gold and the silver. The Koreans also want to lose this match for a similar reason, to avoid the other Chinese pair who have already been placed, as they are the toughest competition. It was pretty stupid for the tournament organisers to create the situation.
Thank you for explanation. From the first minutes I was confused what am I watching.
And this also happened in the Indonesian vs SK match in the other group for similar reasons.
@@nurhusni we dont want to know about that
@@apizcyril9479 dia bagu tahu kau ke LOL
What I don’t understand is why they don’t limit how many entrants each country is allowed, this year between China, Japan, Korea and Taipei, there were 42 entrants, I know badminton is fairly strong over there, but surely it makes more sense to have a better balance of players, rather than having around a quarter of them from the same countries. It means, given how strong China and Korea are, they’re pretty much always guaranteed medals. Other sports limit the number of entrants from any given country, why isn’t badminton??
Its so hilarious listening to the crowd getting madder and madder as the match goes on
The South Korean coach had the balls to tell the chair Umpire that he believes the China's team was throwing the match 😂
I love when one of the players hits the shuttlecock into the net and afterwards when hitting it back to the opponent, they're able to land the thing in the players hand.
If this is a level of Olympics so I can also participate 😂😂😂
Hahaaha
Lol
@Badminton Game Only Google about the scandal you will get the answer why they lost purposefully.
China started this, because in the other groups their teammates suprisingly lost to denmark and ended as runner up. They trying hard to lose in this game to avoid their teamates in semifinal. Korean knew it and did the same thing. Meanwhile, in the other group, Indonesia and Korea didn't want to face this China pair (1st seeded) also play to lose. They all disqualified.
So, they want gold and silver for the same country?
@@alieymw yes
@@alieymw yes for China it is. Wang and Yu vs Tian and Zhao at the Final
Because of this, a russian pair win bronze...
Lol, they don't even care to fake one or two rallies smh. Best game ever
problem was they BOTH wanted to lose, if one team wanted to lose it would be easy to fake it, but when both want to if you have 1 good hit then you end up winning haha
They forget to fake scream when they got a point
this is called prisoner's dilemma. You wouldn't know if you try to fake one, your opponent would try one more with you or just let you win...... so you would rather lose first haha
why do they not want to win?
@@ira6284 Both teams already advanced to quarterfinals. The winner of this match lands in harder half of the tournament bracket, and their best hope is bronze medal. On other hand, losing team gets easier bracket, and has a hope to get a silver medal.
I was 14 back then and thought I will be at the Olympics soon after tuning into this game
What I love about this is the Chinese team didn't even try to hide the fact that they are trying to loose the game 😂😂
After the crowd booeing, they intensified the loosing process.😂
The game starts at 8:35.
And referee threatens DQ at 16:10
Thanks
thanx
The game ended when any pairs reach 21 point.
😁😁
Scuse me... the game starts you said ??
12:38 Coach to the umpire was like: "Dude you gotta do something, those guys are trying to lose."
Whoa, I've never seen such badminton skill in my life. This has to be the greatest match ever!
Sad to watch. They'll need to change the rules so that losing doesn't have advantages.
18:30 i love the way Kim Moon-soo (Korean Coach) claps toward the Chinese players
And Yu Yang respond him with a smile
this is the greatest olympic moment in history for me, i love it
Wow i can make the Olympics as well then . I am so happy
.
This match made me realise the potential of an Olympian within me 😂
WHAT A MATCH, the greatest match in badminton history
it's like they're not even playing to win
oh wait
HAHAHAHAHHAAA!!! Good one!!!
Thumbs Up if Mr Roughgarden's epic lecture got you here.
Sai Prajeeth Nope. Radiolab.
lolz yes
nope :(
Yes
Such an exciting game
1 1 so much action.
😂😂😂
Honestly, I’d rather watch both teams trying to lose than win. More exciting
What always astounded me about this was that they carried on doing it even after being threatened with disqualification. Surely at that point the risk far outweighs the reward and you start playing? Can only assume they were under very strict orders from the coaches.
That's because they didn't know they would really get disqualified, as this has never happened, nobody has been disqualified before in badminton for trying to lose. Well the organizers proved them wrong.
If they knew they would get 100% if they continue, I'm sure they would change strategy, but I think part of them continuing to do that is because they were unsure if they would actually get disqualified
@@yjkuan I love it when people "@#$% around and find out".
Radio Lab!!!!
SafeRing lol me too!
Of course!
Same!
Yep.
Snap
It's so funny how when they're not being judged, like when they're passing it between rounds, you can see how much control they have over the birdie easily hitting it exactly where it needs to go even with a little flourish. Then the moment it matters they suddenly forget how to play. It amazes me one side didn't just start winning when they realized the other side was doing the same thing.
It's cuz both teams were trying to purposefully loose. This was because that year the World No.2 badminton team had an upset loss. This meant that whoever won their round robin final match (this match) would end up having to play the world no. 2 team and most likely end up being eliminated. Therefore both teams coaches told them to lose because they would have greater chances of placing olympic silver by playing other teams. After this game, they changed the matchmaking rules so that in later international and olympic games so that losing would never give teams advantages again.
@@ludyren2260 Well yeah I knew why they were both trying to lose, what I was originally saying was it's weird one of them didn't just give up the obvious charade and take the win, when both were threatened with disqualification. At that point, it's either compete against a hard team or don't compete at all and look like scumbags in the process.
Watching it after 10 years of being played because of my Design Mechanism class. What a case study it is.
Same here lol
Let me guess ,Tim Roughgarden?
Same@@muditkhanna8164
I wished the videos and audio were the same so I could enjoy the boos and laugh properly during the whole game
To give some context, during this years game, the 2nd highest ranked women doubles team had an upset loss. Unfortunately the matchmaking was setup so that whoever ended up winning this match would then have to play against the world No.2 team. Both the Chinese and Korean coaches realized that they would have a better change of making Olympic silver or gold by purposefully losing this game so that they told their players to purposefully throw the game leading to this demonstration of the pinnacle of badminton skills. After this year, the badminton matchmaking rules were changed so that losing a match would never give teams advantages again.
the audio is no synced with the video footage and is sooooo annoying
It's like competition of loosing points.... Great game ever seen.
It's real 'badminton'
It's not 'goodminton'
They're deserve the academy award for best act of the year 😄
The thing is, they didn't want to act. They were blatantly obvious because they hated doing it, but it was the only best strategy, since tournament organisers made a dumb system. They came there to win, but in order to win the Olympics they were forced to try and lose that particular match.
@@Derael idk man, seems like that's the joke.
Tbh I blame the organisers for that, they can't reward losing and expect players not try and lose on purpose. These match ups are a critical part of strategic play in sports, it can be seen in soccer as well where "lousier" players are placed into matches where it is alright to lose.
so funny! I couldn't believe it. One party tried to serve too wide and the other was too helpful and helped return that too wide serve. A very generous game, indeed!
"We are here to just stand here". It takes to 8-3 before the commentator says that things are "sloppy". You don't say
16:30 the tournament referee told them that if keep playing like this way, they might disqualified them from playing in the next round, if both of them can understand English, I think they can make the difference
A day when I could have beaten them even playing SINGLE 😂❤️
I was curious if they just cheated slyly, but it's so blatantly obvious! :D
they are not good actress lol. Its understandable that they dont wanna against their own country in the final but too sad to see both of them pick out this stupid strategy.
A. Haneda can not you if one team starts doing it, or even one team suspect the other team is trying to lose, the other team will have no choice but to do it too. This is called game theory.
Left anti pc do u understand what game theory is?
The game is caped at 29 all and rally point which means that if you take the lead the other team can make it so you win
Eventually Both teams along with 2 more teams got disqualified from further competition in London 2012. Ultimate punishment.
How they acted like regretting their own errors just amazing.. as if people don't know they did those on purpose..
This is just soo embarrassing...
Although sadly Korean pairs and an Indonesian pair were also involved in this 'soap opera', we could say that the main actor behind all this scandal is Chinese pair and their coaches. They just don't want to meet Tian/Zhao earlier in the knockout rounds.
So shame on you, China!
Gentur Adiutama they end up with disqualification. They deserved that.
The main actor behind all this scandal is Chinese pair?? Shame on all teams including Chinese, Korean and Indonesian, also shame on you.
This is racist. The cause is the unfair Olympic rules. Don't talk until you've learned math
@@ziqizhou5770 it is clearly not racist, it is fact..the chinese strategy to lose the match to avoid fellow chinese pairs early
There's something fascinating about watching a rigged contest.
Was SOOO BORING TO WATCH, Is this even Olympic Spirit?
Ini baru dinamakan badminton gajah. Pemain china jago banget aktingnya sok sok kecewa ketika lawan dapat point😅😅
Because they don't want to meet same pair from china in qualifications round
Iya banget lagi, dimana china tuh ada sejarahnya pengen kalah.. Ambisius nya sangat sangat.. Haha
i remember when this was happening, many of my friends from asian countries said that apparently in some asian tournaments, match fixing like this is rife. doesn't make it right or fair and they obviously know they can't do it in the olympics but it's apparently common.
Came for Radiolab, and this is way more infuriating than I thought it would be.
Eight players, four Koreans, two Chinese, two Indonesians are disqualified, it sure violated Olympic spirits and they deserved the punishments, but I read some reports and comments brought it up to against the whole country. WTH...
Well you can bet no western country would do this. We're better than that.
@@JakobTennisMB Of course they would...... happens all the time....
@@JakobTennisMB Hahaha if western countries does this then it’s the system fault. But Asian does this it’s the players fault..
I still don’t get it. Say you see your opponent throwing the match away but continue to play seriously. Nobody would be able to tell that they are throwing the match because they can say that they are injured/tired and etc. In the end they still get the better draw and you putting 100% and win the match will be the idiot. How would it be fair?
You can’t really blame these two teams. Both were specifically ordered by their coaches to play as they did, which is evident, given the coaches’ false coaching tips during intervals. However, this it the olympics, and EVERYTHING happens for a reason. So, why did the coaches want their teams to lose. Honestly, I don’t know about Korea, but if the Chinese team had won, they would be forced to compete against the other Chinese pair way too soon, which would result in one of the Chinese teams eliminated way too quickly. Obviously the coaches didn’t want that, so if the players lose this round, they won’t have to play against their ‘teammates’ until the finals, so that China could win both a gold and a silver. I respect these coaches for their shrewd way of thinking about the national team, and the players for understanding and listening to their coaches orders. The only problem...well, you watched the video, you know what it is.
Korea didn't really want to win either because if they had won, they would face the other chinese pair which was stronger. So if they win, they face a stronger opponent next round, if they lose, they face a weaker opponent next round. Which way would you choose?
yjkuan i mean wang and yu were definitely the strongest pair in the world they had barely lost any matches before this one
karena kedua pasangan ini badminton hampir di coret dari daftar olahraga di olimpiade...
The one who blamed is bwf, they made a regulation that give you disadvantages if you win all the games
Yes, yes yes and yes! I totally agree.
BWF is wrong in regulate this but to blame it, you have to blame who has no sportsmanship.
Plot Twist: polite hitting to avoid injury to Shuttlecork😎
Best match of the tournament ! Epic!
I was 14 during this Olympics!
So were the players it seems.
18:30 i like how korean coach clapping to Wang/Yu hahah
Those who can't understand, they both deliberatily tried to lose, just because the winning team has to face a fierce team.
Best game EVER!!!
11:50 The ref: I don't think i can take this anymore
Kesini gara2 tiktok. Nitip sendal kalo rame
Can't believe china tried so hard to loose just so that they don't have to play the other china team in the next round, they could've sucked of just sucked it up and played the other team. SMH
Well. They want gold and silver. And other teams are stupid enough to follow suit by trying to lose. All teams and the system are to blame.
It is one thing to not try your hardest to win. That is frowned upon but it is still acceptable. This is purposefully trying to lose. To use football as an analogy, not trying hardest to win would be playing your bench and not running at full speed. Trying to purposefully lose is to try and score own goals. In badminton, purposefully serving into the net is the latter, not the former.
You don't understand what is happening. Both teams were playing the way that gave them best chances to advance deeper into the tournament. They were trying to win the war, not the fight. "Just not trying" would not have been enough. You have to actively try and lose in this situation.
Don't hate the players, hate the game (in this case, the group format).
By the way, in EVERY format, teams might give 80% on one day so they can give 100% on the next. To say it with Sun Tzu "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight."
Trying to lose on purpose is cheating. Simple. I wouldn't expect much more from china, I am sorry to say:(
こんな試合でも応援してくれる観客が優しすぎる… 😟
whats this ?
some kind of jokes ?
this is what happens when the rules make losing better than winning. Its like saying the slowest who cross the finish line in a 100m run wins, of course the athletes are going to go as slow as possible
@@joesr31 they will not run as simple as it
You're absolutely right, they didn't break *sporting* rules. They broke the most serious unspoken rule of them all, in the eyes of the IOC--that a whole bunch of those seats were given to their big sponsors, and those sponsors got ripped off by the athletes throwing the match. They broke the Olympic money rule.
It's actually and official rule in the Olympics that the players must amke efforts to win the game.
@@williampitt1537 thanks for that info
First This Has Been Controversy Match In Olympics London 2012
Second BWF Removed Indonesian Team From All England Tournament In Birmingham
The fault is in the tournament if the losing team gets to play a weaker team. It's super annoying but they were playing to win the medal (losing to win)
Most intence match ive ever seen...
Radiolab brought me here. It shuda been 3 years ago but I had to replay the episode before I come here.
This is a dark history of badminton, especially for Indonesian players (Greysia Polii & Meiliana Jauhari) where they are also disqualification (along with 2 Korean Pairs & 1 Chinese Pairs) due to match fixing. But now, 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games, she (Greysia) finally got a gold medal with his new young partner (Apriyani Rahayu) againts Chinese Pairs (Chen Qing Chen & Jia Yi Fan). Girls, you've made up for it. Congratulation....
Tim Roughgarden brought me here.
I was sad to watch these :( they are great players. I love watching this sports because of badminton sprirts. i think it is true that victory is not always to be everything
9:19 that look ... "Oh $hit! We're winning coach! What should I do?"
Radiolab.
Match paling kontroversial sepanjang Olympic
i can play better than them
They kept them face straight.. and the way them coaches talk to them.. how they didnt laughing at all when they did that.. i must be pissed on my pants to holding that situation.🤣🤣
It's strategic move. If they could play more realistic they could just get away with it and i believe they will win the gold medal
I play like the olympians !
Literally.
Very smart play by both teams to try and lose the game since the idea is to win the gold medal and this gave each team the best chance don't blame the teams blame the round robin format.
You clearly aren't a lover of badminton and play the game.
You are a terrible person if you think this is the way to play... Hope I will never have to face someone like you. (Although I would probably win easily)
Wrong I enjoy watching badminton, however, their play gives them the best chance of winning the gold medal and that is your objective when you compete!
Plus most countries provide financial aid for Olympic medals also winning might also bring sponsorship!
+Lee DHendon if they are a true olympic team then it shouldn't matter who they are facing... Clearly they didn't think they could win, despite who they face, and were not going to get a medal at all.
So my question is, if this pair is so weak, why take them to the olympics?
Absolute disgrace if you ask me... Especially because these countries... They are typically strong at badminton!
Jack the hope is that someone else will knock them out before they reach you or make the draw easier for you and harder for them giving you better chance to win gold. this smart strategy and playing to the tournament format don't blame the players they won early and gave themselves the option for positional seeding.
+Lee DHendon the point of the game is to win. Hence why they got disqualified.
Doesn't matter how the tournament is played, players must play to win... Otherwise leave.
Which is why I'm proud of the fact that my country did not stand for such low lives.
The announcers are just the best...
"Well, I have to say, things look a little bit sloppy at the moment"
Lololol
I can barely hear the woman. It's like the exact opposite of the US announcers who talk over each other and the actual event...this lady sounds like "mmr mrr....long pause...mrr mrr mrrr". I have no idea what words she's even saying.
The audio is 8 secs behind
The koreans tried to play normal games,after 2 serves they realised the chinese were actually trying to throw the game away lol
This was a game of "Lose to win"
Both team trying to lose to play against weaker team in next round..Round Robin's Theory
This was an absolute disgrace to the Olympic name, hopefully this will not occur in Rio for 2016
FusionGamerElite They have to do something different with the rules to prevent it. This wasn't even the only game in London where this happened.
" Did anyone notice They Did'nt even changed the shuttle " 😂
15:00
How to play "bad" in Badminton.
Radio Lab!! Losing to win, results in losing. The irony and justice of it.
My favorite part in this match is when people started booing them.
I was like yes boo them❤❤❤😍😍😍
i am here to watch how they have choose to loose that amaze me, hope a lot of fun
i think london 2012 is most modern & stunning olympic in decoration, layout, visualization too, even tokyo 2020 olympics is not stunning & modern like this
couldnt agree more!
Mostly yes, but for gymnastics venue i prefer tokyo2020
good to know im better then a olympic team
They are faking the lose point
What a shame!!!
Yu Yang/Wang Xiaoli refused to face Zhao Yunlei/Tian Qing.
Jung Kyung Eun/Kim Ha Na refused to face Ha Jeung Eun/Kim Min Jung.
Ha Jeung Eun/Kim Min Jung refused to face Jung Kyung Eun/Kim Ha Na.
Gresyia Polii/Meliana Jauhari = Out of Server.
And you know what? The mastermind behind this tragedy was Li Yongbo.
And the players are the real victims.
And you won't find this freakin' stuff in Japanese Prespective... 😅
East Asia is none of your business. Korea looks down on your country haha
看了這場比賽，我應該也能打奧運吧
I blame the system, not the players.
Takes a surprisingly long time for Gill to notice that things are odd!
Best way to cheat :
Have one player play overly aggressive, and the other make low movements. Claim she was lightly hurt and didn't want to hurt herself more
Only works if one side trying to lose. When both sides try to lose, you need to try to throw out a point before the opponent does, that's why at one point they keep serving into the net. Because they know if they serve it over, the opponent will try to lose the point.
Wow... you can hear Gill's voice breaking at 18:57...
The best way to play badminton is just lose so you can avoid teams that are better than you in he next round
There is not much to dislike this video but the match they play.
so good match i've never seen so much precision to pass up to the net!