This is the one thing selim did right!! Apologizing immediately to the Sultan. that his brothers mustafa and bayezid didn’t do! They were filled with arrogance and stubbornness.
He knew how to work his father the best. That's how the drunkard became the sultan. The others were themselves and didn't manipulate their father the way Selim did.
Poor Suleiman can't have a single day without stress. Rarely all day went good then you have your favorite concubine dead at night. What a chaotic life to lead!
8:49 all disappointed Suleiman in some ways, but just because of obidience and loyalty that only selim had, he got the throne despite he was drunkard and coward unlike brave bayezid and a great leader Mustafa
He knew selim was weak and scared of him. A person with an addiction issue is very vulnerable. Mustafa had self esteem and talent. Bayezid became angry very fast and caused drama. That's why both sons lost their lives. Selim was obedient because he copied hürrem who never had any self esteem when it came to süleyman.
Only thing that selim did right and that was the only thing that led him to the throne was his absolute loyalty and obidience towards suleiman, he committed a mistake and immediately apologized and sought forgiveness from Suleiman While Mustafa never sought forgiveness he thought he was right
He is lecturing Selim, as he was perfect himself... Such a double standard 😂 Didn't sultan feel that himself when he slept with many women and enjoyed drinking or while slaying his own son, making brothers war against each other or when Hurrem puppeteers him according to her will...
Lol he was lecturing selim bcz consuming alcohol is a sin and was prohibited to sell and drink..and selim as a crown prince himself is indulged in doing so! Suleiman didn’t commit any sin..all those you mentioned that he did was justified on his place as a ruler..you can see history, selim is called the drunk sultan whereas suleiman was the greatest and the most Just sultan of Ottoman Empire.
That's who your dear son, Selim is, Suleiman. And yet for some reason you and Hurrem thought that he'd make a great candidate for the throne. Then again, I guess that he's the safest option since he's so good at stroking other people's ego and appear harmless 🙄🙄
Honestly, I reckon Suleiman was the last of the great Sultans of the Ottoman Empire. Of course, there may have been a few saving graces here and there, who came in the form of Sultan Abdul Hamid, Murad IV, and a few others, but it was too little too late. After Selim's lackluster rule and during said rule, the people in his court and military must have begun seeing ways to achieve wealth and power in the Ottoman government through alliances with harem women, as well as due to Selim's negligence towards political, military, and economic affairs in favor of his days and nights of drinking, dancing, painting, and debauchery. It's just so sad that they lived like that, seeing how they treated each other, their own families, but what can you do? Frankly, it's most likely for the best that the age of empires and kings are over, although you can never truly do away with tyranny because there are people out there who are always desperate for the smallest amount of power.
Yeah, and I'll bet every coward and tyrant throughout history has used the same old excuse. Also, I'd bet you my life savings that's the same reason Selim told himself at night when he had not only Bayezid, but his four young sons strangled as well.
Do you people really comment on this show without even watching it? Hürrem very explicitly wanted Bayezid to take the throne. When she died, she made Rustem swear that he will protect Bayezid to his last breath. Not Selim. The only reason she wanted Selim in Manisa is because Bayezid was still incredibly hot headed and disobedient, but her plan was always that Bayezid should be on the throne
@@somerandomnon-importantper3219 well nobody bothered to tell Bayazid that. And let's be honest it's not like Selim would have backed down even if Hurrem wanted to. What makes you think that he would?
Manisha is a different place for both Suleiman and Mahidevran. Each of them have lots of good, radiant, peaceful and innocent memories of life when they were young. Suleiman indeed regretted Ibrahim's execution cause no matter what he did, how arrogant some of his works were deep down it's shown Ibrahim being loyal to Suleiman. As he'd been in distress whenever Suleiman got ill. But Ibrahim broke the limits to the extent where Hurrem could easy manipulate Suleiman that he's after his Throne. I loved this part, it's shows Suleiman's not losing feelings about anyone he ever loved. Lile the time when he was in deathbed. I think according to series, how it showed hallucinating Suleiman, Ibrahim and other things he did like not revealing Ibrahim's grave etc highly gives a view that Suleiman regretted about Ibrahim the most. To this point it's really tearful that Suleiman is all alone and he's best friend isn't there. Life indeed is unpredictable.
This is the one thing selim did right!! Apologizing immediately to the Sultan.
that his brothers mustafa and bayezid didn’t do! They were filled with arrogance and stubbornness.
He knew how to work his father the best. That's how the drunkard became the sultan. The others were themselves and didn't manipulate their father the way Selim did.
It's not manipulation if you do what your parent expects you to do I think. @@MellieMellie97146
@@MellieMellie97146 the others had self-respect and integrity.
Selim didn't.
@@mdabdullah4379 Allah is little
Poor Suleiman can't have a single day without stress. Rarely all day went good then you have your favorite concubine dead at night. What a chaotic life to lead!
Ottoman version of dad finding his son smoke in his room theme.
8:49 all disappointed Suleiman in some ways, but just because of obidience and loyalty that only selim had, he got the throne despite he was drunkard and coward unlike brave bayezid and a great leader Mustafa
Had Mustafa been in selim's place, Suleiman would take his head with his sword
He knew selim was weak and scared of him. A person with an addiction issue is very vulnerable. Mustafa had self esteem and talent. Bayezid became angry very fast and caused drama. That's why both sons lost their lives. Selim was obedient because he copied hürrem who never had any self esteem when it came to süleyman.
Only thing that selim did right and that was the only thing that led him to the throne was his absolute loyalty and obidience towards suleiman, he committed a mistake and immediately apologized and sought forgiveness from Suleiman
While Mustafa never sought forgiveness he thought he was right
Umar ibn khattab would never spare his son for drinking.
That's why ottoman empire would never amount to the Rashidun empire.
@@mdabdullah4379 you are wrong
valeria is not the wife of the sultan only a concubine lol
He is lecturing Selim, as he was perfect himself... Such a double standard 😂 Didn't sultan feel that himself when he slept with many women and enjoyed drinking or while slaying his own son, making brothers war against each other or when Hurrem puppeteers him according to her will...
Lol he was lecturing selim bcz consuming alcohol is a sin and was prohibited to sell and drink..and selim as a crown prince himself is indulged in doing so! Suleiman didn’t commit any sin..all those you mentioned that he did was justified on his place as a ruler..you can see history, selim is called the drunk sultan whereas suleiman was the greatest and the most Just sultan of Ottoman Empire.
Lol true but obv he's the king so he sees himself perfect but Süleyman is the true evil and root of problems in this show
Bye bye nazenin. Haseki sultan decides.
Alcohol is prohibited in Islam but most of the Muslim Princes were wasted due to Alcohol be them ottoman or Maughal
That's who your dear son, Selim is, Suleiman. And yet for some reason you and Hurrem thought that he'd make a great candidate for the throne.
Then again, I guess that he's the safest option since he's so good at stroking other people's ego and appear harmless 🙄🙄
Honestly, I reckon Suleiman was the last of the great Sultans of the Ottoman Empire. Of course, there may have been a few saving graces here and there, who came in the form of Sultan Abdul Hamid, Murad IV, and a few others, but it was too little too late. After Selim's lackluster rule and during said rule, the people in his court and military must have begun seeing ways to achieve wealth and power in the Ottoman government through alliances with harem women, as well as due to Selim's negligence towards political, military, and economic affairs in favor of his days and nights of drinking, dancing, painting, and debauchery. It's just so sad that they lived like that, seeing how they treated each other, their own families, but what can you do?
Frankly, it's most likely for the best that the age of empires and kings are over, although you can never truly do away with tyranny because there are people out there who are always desperate for the smallest amount of power.
Hurrem feared what Bayezid would do with power. Selim was the safest choice for everyone
Yeah, and I'll bet every coward and tyrant throughout history has used the same old excuse. Also, I'd bet you my life savings that's the same reason Selim told himself at night when he had not only Bayezid, but his four young sons strangled as well.
Do you people really comment on this show without even watching it? Hürrem very explicitly wanted Bayezid to take the throne. When she died, she made Rustem swear that he will protect Bayezid to his last breath. Not Selim.
The only reason she wanted Selim in Manisa is because Bayezid was still incredibly hot headed and disobedient, but her plan was always that Bayezid should be on the throne
@@somerandomnon-importantper3219 well nobody bothered to tell Bayazid that. And let's be honest it's not like Selim would have backed down even if Hurrem wanted to.
What makes you think that he would?
Drinking is haram but sleeping with na mehrem is not .
That's concubine which is halal. Learn about Islam first.
Na mehram????? Where?
Selim the unless one and everyone covering his mistakes wt coward!
Yet u didn't remove him from manisna ehat happened suliman ur JUSTICE 😂😂😂
Hurrem raising up
You choosed the wrong mother
Valeria looks like Fatma. Same actress?
No they are not :)
What was he smiling for?
He saw Lokman as hallucination of his long lost friend Pargali Ibrahim, from younger days
He saw young Ibrahim Pasha when he saw lokman agha's face that's why he smiled because he still misses his friend he killed for the throne
Episode number?
Hangi bolum
She’s the Sultan’s wife? When did THAT happen?
Manisha is a different place for both Suleiman and Mahidevran. Each of them have lots of good, radiant, peaceful and innocent memories of life when they were young. Suleiman indeed regretted Ibrahim's execution cause no matter what he did, how arrogant some of his works were deep down it's shown Ibrahim being loyal to Suleiman. As he'd been in distress whenever Suleiman got ill. But Ibrahim broke the limits to the extent where Hurrem could easy manipulate Suleiman that he's after his Throne. I loved this part, it's shows Suleiman's not losing feelings about anyone he ever loved. Lile the time when he was in deathbed. I think according to series, how it showed hallucinating Suleiman, Ibrahim and other things he did like not revealing Ibrahim's grave etc highly gives a view that Suleiman regretted about Ibrahim the most. To this point it's really tearful that Suleiman is all alone and he's best friend isn't there. Life indeed is unpredictable.
Selim did not deserve that throne!
Cant understand they lead they life ..zina adultery alcohol what are u trying to say
How did these people stray frim islam so much disgusting!! The main muslims was osman ghazi and etrugul ghazi may they rest in peace
dont play music while quran is being recited, are you all uneducated?
It's a series.
Not be so serious !
Exactly
@@CheckiiingThis is what's wrong with Turkish, Egyptian, and South Asian Muslims. Too cultural of Muslims.