Revalorise has a big gun. IMO it should have 225-230 base pen and 270-280 gold pen as it already has excellent gun (minus penetration values of course) CDC is the the that should get massive buff to soft stats
Revalorize in Ru server got the APCR pen updated to 226 and the HEAT is 280 iirc, on top of a few more buffs and it's quite competitive. The CDC needs a massive rework to be competitive. If it had a gun like the SPH TVP it would be playable, the only other way is to make it a TD, as it should be, or raise the alpha to 320 with crazy DPM.
This tank is like a hidden gem to me, the decent mantlet, paired with good mobility, it can actually play pretty aggressively and bounce a good amount of shots
@@unicucumber yeah the soft stats are the problem but they changed them for this tank so it could work now btw this gun is usually on t 8 french heavies so I was pretty happy to get it on a t 8 medium
The thing is when AMX 30B was presented it was alternative to Leopard 1 and STB-1, those tanks were pretty much the same, then they buffed Leo and STB, told AMX to fuck off and it's stuck in 2015 meta like FCM 50t.
@@cikuI00 The "buff" to the STB lowered its already bad top speed, reduced view range, lowered alpha, lowered pen, reduced gun depression (if you don't use the wonky suspension that feels like playing with 400 ping) and the gun is so bad it makes people go bald trying to hit anything beyond 200 meters range. But hey, it has useless theoretical DPM that's way worse than the laser K91 anyway, so it was totally worth it.
Well, part of it is a tank buff, but I also feel like large part comes from new skills. I gave a 430u a go after the patch and this tank feels so much better. Faster and gun actually feels great again, when earlier it liked to troll
I liked the mobility, the gun handling has just been brought up to standard, War Gaming has had my money for years and Ive had crap tank, now its what I paid for!
Thanks !! WOW ya sure ya picked the right stream video ? to show the live reaction ?? LOL didn't look very excited :) See ya on the Next one or in the Stream ..
24:38 "Fast as F^&k" - really? Hope You know it is not about to be fast..... :) You should enjoy every minute and wish it would last forever :) Remember to aim right and be ready to run when something went wrong.. Sometimes You need to focus on one target, but sometimes help Your teammates on the other side as well.
Before you could not pop up, shoot, hit something accurately, then hide quickly. The reload is still kind of long, but it’s playable now. I still get PTSD when I see that skin.
From title I expected Pershing. In my opinion it's comparable to best single shot tanks and among top three tech tree tier 8 mediums with Pantera and Udes14. Pershing is now better tank per tier than Patton - I never expected to say this. Pershing with (experimental) turbo has everything - excellent gold penetration, pretty good gun handling, decent alpha and accuracy, at least some turret armor and DPM, gun now makes this tank.
tank was balanced as it came out I mean it was already extremly mobile had a very good penetration and a turret armor almost unmatched in t 8 even the frontal armor can bounce almost all without heat because of the slope and the gundepression was also very great now it lost its main weakpoint the bad gunhandling on turret rotation and got more dpm better traverse speed as a bonus no idea why this was even needed
if WG buffed premium tank for example this AMX alt 30. and after some time realized oh that buff is too strong can they reverse/back the buff to its original shape?
I always loved my AP AMX30 even before the patch, sure the gun handling wasn't great but it's so moving and fun to play with the gun depression. But now even better mobility and gun handling on top I just can't wait to play with it tonight. With the added skills I can get even better gun handling with my full XP crew.
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone with this tank, I always thought it was one of the best tier 8 tanks and never had a problem with the gun but I played it aggressively because no, it's not a sniper, at close to mid ranges the gun was great(maybe it felt that way because it didn't suck like most French tanks) and you didn't have to spam premium to make it that way like something like the Lis. Can't wait to try out my favourite tier 8 med but lately I have been playing the T17 a lot since it seems a bit OP and might get a nerf and also the 59 Patton and Raumpanzer which both seem to be much better, actually really enjoyed the Raumpanzer and I hated it before, one of the two premiums I regretted buying.
every tank wich is premium needs to be good becouse we pay real money for them, so when you pay real money you need somethink good ! adn ofc MM for premiums needs to be + - 1 no more. in case to make some money !
I've managed to get this tank dropped for me from the x2 emerald special boxes within steel hunter event that was about 1 year ago or so, and to my believe I still cannot understand how lucky I was. matter the fact this AMX alt Proto 30 got now buffed which makes me happy ofcourse but despite the 1 tank i game I got for free, game itself is still not bueno including gold shooting and disgusting matchmaking
Why did this buff this tank? It was fine before - not fantastic, but workable and definitely better than many other older Tier VIII premiums. I sometimes wish I understood why WG devs do what they do. It doesn't make sense to me.
I still have issues with myshots hitting ground even with best configuration to boost that area.On gold shells i is a lot better ofc P2Hit shells are way better.
For me the gun handling is worse than before or I'm just extremally unlucky. I've played like 100 or 200 games in the last 30 days and some shots I missed are just unreal. Ofc tank itself is now better because of better dpm and mobility but I don't see a positive difference in gun handling.
@@ThoughtCriminal696 yeah last time for 6 or 7 years as the game used to be completely diffrent...and Dose it change the fact that it hardly needs buffs ??? I mean 7 years of powercreep dont Pass you by without a trace. Specialy when u havent been one of the strongest Mofos of that time anyway
skill did you notice with the recent patch you lose view range with75% of all tanks and cvs on the new chek tanks doesnt work at all. seriously i had to get within 150 meters to spot anything with 482 view range
it's a pity that your last video wasn't flattering for this tank... there was a tank exchange and it was possible to exchange it... I assume you knew about the buff for this tank, but you didn't say anything... it's a pity once again
As the other commenter said it's a Ballista. And though it seems ridiculous, in World War II the French actually did mount ballistas on some of their tanks. They used them to launch bad wine at the Germans in the hope of demoralizing them. It didn't work, the Germans couldn't tell the difference. It would have been a different story if they'd used bad beer instead.
The treatment this tank got is what the Revalorize should get
You mean the CDC?
@@vvav add fcm 50t in the mix as well, all of those three deserve treatment like the ap amx 30
@@vvav he means the sherman with the 90mm gun on tier 8
Revalorise has a big gun. IMO it should have 225-230 base pen and 270-280 gold pen as it already has excellent gun (minus penetration values of course)
CDC is the the that should get massive buff to soft stats
Revalorize in Ru server got the APCR pen updated to 226 and the HEAT is 280 iirc, on top of a few more buffs and it's quite competitive. The CDC needs a massive rework to be competitive. If it had a gun like the SPH TVP it would be playable, the only other way is to make it a TD, as it should be, or raise the alpha to 320 with crazy DPM.
This tank is like a hidden gem to me, the decent mantlet, paired with good mobility, it can actually play pretty aggressively and bounce a good amount of shots
the mantlet is so funny. i had multiple games with 3K dmg blocked with the tank lmao
"and on the last but not least replay i will show you my early reaction on the buffs"
- no reaction
They should bring back the amx 30 line and give them the same buffs
French 100mm is insanely good. 232 normal pen is 18 away from tier 9-10 guns levels of penetration
I hate french 100mm, most tanks who got this gun have poor soft stats making it very inaccurate. For me it's a gun which likes to miss very often.
@@unicucumber
yeah the soft stats are the problem but they changed them for this tank so it could work now
btw this gun is usually on t 8 french heavies so I was pretty happy to get it on a t 8 medium
It turns out to be that amx30 prototype is better than amx30b in WG’s world.
The thing is when AMX 30B was presented it was alternative to Leopard 1 and STB-1, those tanks were pretty much the same, then they buffed Leo and STB, told AMX to fuck off and it's stuck in 2015 meta like FCM 50t.
@@cikuI00 The "buff" to the STB lowered its already bad top speed, reduced view range, lowered alpha, lowered pen, reduced gun depression (if you don't use the wonky suspension that feels like playing with 400 ping) and the gun is so bad it makes people go bald trying to hit anything beyond 200 meters range. But hey, it has useless theoretical DPM that's way worse than the laser K91 anyway, so it was totally worth it.
AMX 30B is VERY underrated. Not saying it's better than Leo1 but it's nowhere near as bad as people say it is
no its not
I loved the Alt proto pre-boost. Was a fantastic frontline tank. Now I am looking forward to the boosts.
"Good day fellas, i hope youre ready for youre daily dose of skill" this is still the best intro
Saying "excusez moi" while shooting at French tanks is savage.
Well, part of it is a tank buff, but I also feel like large part comes from new skills. I gave a 430u a go after the patch and this tank feels so much better. Faster and gun actually feels great again, when earlier it liked to troll
Before the buff I hated this tank, but now It´s my favourite Tier 8!
now it feels like a better version of lancen C
Everybody forgets the Räumpanzer :/
Got also buffed, not mentiont in the articel but it got a good byff to dpm, penentration and so on.
Did it actually?
@@Jayden_o777It did, it's alpha is now 280 instead of 240 aswell
@@ArcticWipeout Also with same reload as with smaller alfa. Quite a beast it is now. 💀
Shovel got even more OP
The shovel?
Man, that would be awesome, I should start reading patch notes...
Skill looking like a Claymore monster in the thumbnail :)
Your "Ninja", wasn't that Dr. Indiana Jones at Raiders Of The Lost Ark? ;-)
By the title I expected the Batchat
Hi skill, speaking about the index you should consider to rate tier 4 as well beacause they are getting battlepass points now
OMG. Just started the game, and everything is now changed, AGAIN!!!!!. Fuck it. Exit game!
my beloved beast of gevaudan tank
now its a BEAST of the gevaudan for sure !
I liked the mobility, the gun handling has just been brought up to standard, War Gaming has had my money for years and Ive had crap tank, now its what I paid for!
The lost teddy bear reference is so relatable, this tank also felt like that to me.
3D camo is awesome on this tank.
You, my dear sir are the commander of my A.P. AMX 30 and this tank is absolutely glorious!
Still waiting for the Premium WZ buff.
BZ buff insted 🤣
@@olivier4280 Yeah buff BZ then put in lootboxes 😈
Thanks !! WOW ya sure ya picked the right stream video ? to show the live reaction ?? LOL didn't look very excited :) See ya on the Next one or in the Stream ..
Also the best 3D style ever. Full on Spanish Inquisition/Pit And The Pendulum vibes.
24:38 "Fast as F^&k" - really? Hope You know it is not about to be fast..... :) You should enjoy every minute and wish it would last forever :) Remember to aim right and be ready to run when something went wrong.. Sometimes You need to focus on one target, but sometimes help Your teammates on the other side as well.
Before you could not pop up, shoot, hit something accurately, then hide quickly. The reload is still kind of long, but it’s playable now. I still get PTSD when I see that skin.
Aced the amx ap30 a couple months ago, it's been one of my favorites since it was released.
just went back to this tank and im actually hitting shots comfortably now
Skeeel broadened his range of polish curse words, i commend you sir!
I got this tank from Marathon back in Late 2021. Glad it's buffed
From title I expected Pershing. In my opinion it's comparable to best single shot tanks and among top three tech tree tier 8 mediums with Pantera and Udes14. Pershing is now better tank per tier than Patton - I never expected to say this. Pershing with (experimental) turbo has everything - excellent gold penetration, pretty good gun handling, decent alpha and accuracy, at least some turret armor and DPM, gun now makes this tank.
I've always liked this tank! I haven't played mine alot, but I plan on playing more!
I played this tank a good amount of battles after buff and dare I say it is as good as the progetto 46 now, it’s great,
I liked this tank before the buff but gun could let you down. Off to play it now.
i am so ready for this i was top 20 in NA for this tank before the buff so.
i love this tank now
I have this tank, and I don't think I've ever played a game in it.
tank was balanced as it came out
I mean it was already extremly mobile had a very good penetration and a turret armor almost unmatched in t 8 even the frontal armor can bounce almost all without heat because of the slope and the gundepression was also very great
now it lost its main weakpoint the bad gunhandling on turret rotation and got more dpm better traverse speed as a bonus
no idea why this was even needed
Same here. I really don't understand it.
-11 gun depression is kinda crazy. My favourite tier 8 rn
Did you think the CdC and FCM50t need to be rerated ? or perhaps they could too beneficiate from some patching love ?
if WG buffed premium tank for example this AMX alt 30. and after some time realized oh that buff is too strong can they reverse/back the buff to its original shape?
probably not
When they improve premium tank, they will not change it back.
I'm liking the Perfect Charge skill tbh
I always loved my AP AMX30 even before the patch, sure the gun handling wasn't great but it's so moving and fun to play with the gun depression. But now even better mobility and gun handling on top I just can't wait to play with it tonight. With the added skills I can get even better gun handling with my full XP crew.
Is this a tech tree tank? I dont see it on the tech tree anymore???
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone with this tank, I always thought it was one of the best tier 8 tanks and never had a problem with the gun but I played it aggressively because no, it's not a sniper, at close to mid ranges the gun was great(maybe it felt that way because it didn't suck like most French tanks) and you didn't have to spam premium to make it that way like something like the Lis. Can't wait to try out my favourite tier 8 med but lately I have been playing the T17 a lot since it seems a bit OP and might get a nerf and also the 59 Patton and Raumpanzer which both seem to be much better, actually really enjoyed the Raumpanzer and I hated it before, one of the two premiums I regretted buying.
every tank wich is premium needs to be good becouse we pay real money for them, so when you pay real money you need somethink good ! adn ofc MM for premiums needs to be + - 1 no more. in case to make some money !
Skill you gotta try the m48 ram pz it’s amazing now troll armor and a 5 sec reload with 280 alpha is so comfortable
my gunmanlet armor is not working , maybe i dont have 3d skin ?
Was the Forest Spirit in game 2 a fellow baboon? He had his gun raised when Skill was close at 11:48...
hi skill, nice video. have you tried the M48 raumpanzer yet? that 3200 dpm is wild
Amx 30B Amx 30 1er prot. A.P Amx 30 and M4A1 Revalorise are all awesome French tanks
I've managed to get this tank dropped for me from the x2 emerald special boxes within steel hunter event that was about 1 year ago or so, and to my believe I still cannot understand how lucky I was. matter the fact this AMX alt Proto 30 got now buffed which makes me happy ofcourse but despite the 1 tank i game I got for free, game itself is still not bueno including gold shooting and disgusting matchmaking
Why did this buff this tank? It was fine before - not fantastic, but workable and definitely better than many other older Tier VIII premiums. I sometimes wish I understood why WG devs do what they do. It doesn't make sense to me.
I think that AMX CDC is also better after the update.
oh elc just happens to run out in front of him in the begining of the game, tricks
Idk I have this tank for quite time and I always liked this tank even before those changes that looks juicy
Why not the french M4 Revalorize (dont know how to write it correct) or my loved CDC they also deserved love for so long time!
Is this the collectors vehicle?
Shame they forgot all that armor when they made the older T9/10 AMX 30s haha
Now they should buff the TL1-LPC
I had one when it first came out. Sold it.
I wanted this tank so badly when it came, but I saw Skill's opinion and didn't buy it. I hope that WG will well it again soon.
WG would never over buff or nerf any tank ever, over and over again. History is my evidence. WG gives gamers what they deserve; well...
Finally the french Lansen is useful....
I still have issues with myshots hitting ground even with best configuration to boost that area.On gold shells i is a lot better ofc P2Hit shells are way better.
For me the gun handling is worse than before or I'm just extremally unlucky. I've played like 100 or 200 games in the last 30 days and some shots I missed are just unreal. Ofc tank itself is now better because of better dpm and mobility but I don't see a positive difference in gun handling.
When will we get Raumpanzer????
Its like obj 430 with 100mm gun
7:00 -- every
tank ?
tell me again how many tanks are there? 😅
Can you do the sneaky boi electo trier lV British TD?
Its funny what kind of love what tanks get and T54 mod1 still stays the same as its been released. Its so ridiculous
ummm... that tank has been buffed multiple times.
@@ThoughtCriminal696 yeah last time for 6 or 7 years as the game used to be completely diffrent...and Dose it change the fact that it hardly needs buffs ??? I mean 7 years of powercreep dont Pass you by without a trace. Specialy when u havent been one of the strongest Mofos of that time anyway
I played onec and never played aftre that. Ill give it a try
How to buy A.P. Amax 30?
I loved this tank even with the awful gun, so I'm really excited for it now haha
was it booff-aid?
AMX CDC is next in line. Isn't it?
Now AP AMX 30 is great.
Oh yeah. First battles in this tank and I like it. Kinda like better Lansen C :)
skill did you notice with the recent patch you lose view range with75% of all tanks and cvs on the new chek tanks doesnt work at all. seriously i had to get within 150 meters to spot anything with 482 view range
No, I haven't noticed that.
All T8 tanks should get buffed (yes, even Defender) I'm waiting for them to buff panther 8.8
Oh lord. I sold this tank cause i hated it so much, and now its Epic.. Damn...
When the buff for WZ-114? 🤣
Now I want one... :/
One of my favorite tanks
it's a pity that your last video wasn't flattering for this tank... there was a tank exchange and it was possible to exchange it... I assume you knew about the buff for this tank, but you didn't say anything... it's a pity once again
I wil dust it off and play it again soon. 😊
Just don't assign the new perks and you should tell difference if its between new perks or not.
world of tank employee
Does this mean the charioteer is good now?😂
High shell cost for 300 dmg
Patton test when?
deffinatley not monster, just good
This tank was always goos
Did i see a crossbow on that tank come on now be serious this is ridiculous
It's a Ballista,not crossbow 👍
As the other commenter said it's a Ballista. And though it seems ridiculous, in World War II the French actually did mount ballistas on some of their tanks. They used them to launch bad wine at the Germans in the hope of demoralizing them. It didn't work, the Germans couldn't tell the difference. It would have been a different story if they'd used bad beer instead.
@@2ndfloorsongs It still is ridiculous to me but thanks for info by the way why shoot wine instead of explosifs
Not buying the wine tossing…
@@troypast3589 Me neither why toss wine when you could toss explosifs
buffed Shovel next
Hi skilll !
loads faster=more missed shots
CDC up two tiers