I do all of those - in small amounts. In my mix I have instruments grouped into separate buses - one for drums, one for pads, one for keys, guitars, etc. These have their own light compression and maybe saturation. The entire mix get's glued with my new favourite "BX Glue" - which does exactly what it says it does! Sometimes I add tape to the master bus too.
@@aemythjensen Nothing in particular, other than how easy it is to use. I have other multiband compressors but BX Glue is a powerful VCA compressor with lots of added features (like width control, sidechain and saturation/EQ tilt) ua-cam.com/video/UAqYJ1m5HXo/v-deo.html
my fav trick is to send everything to a reverb and then compress the reverb. then, sidechain it to the kick edit fwiw: don’t send literally everything +0db to the send. only send select sounds at varying levels
Ehhhhh that can have issues. Because you lose the dynamics of different things, if you just merge them with the reverb. Like ideally you should be able to hear each individual item instead of just a merged mess imo. It could work if you use a sort of bus channel with your reverb on. I.e. sending items which have the same sort of transients to the same buss. Then again I'm no expert.
I've done something similar: I took the whole dry signal, added some reverb, then compress and distort it so you get a maximum of little artifacts with it, EQ it. Then dial it back in gently with the dry signal.
Doesn’t really work for some genres tho. I don’t put Reverb on everything in my mix, I like to keep some elements dry and use delays, creates a sense of space without getting muddy, I only put reverb on my elements that call for it. This is the way to go IMO opinion, if you’re making stuff that’s dense like Trance, UKhardcore, Hardstyle ect.
@@naughtyducky6325 "I only put reverb on my elements that call for it." ...like elements that need to be glued together. Also this is most likely a very short reverb.
The day I got Pancz was overwhelming, as I suddenly realised everything I had made before was subpar. Transient shaping is one of the first things I do now!
Another good tip for vocals and transitions I like to use is throwing a phaser-flanger on and adjust the settings. It can take a dry sound and kinda mold it into the mix
I work mainly with Rock/Metal tracks so I do Parallel Compression on Kicks and Snares (mono comp) and then a separate one on toms, cymbals/overheads and rooms (stereo comp). As far as bass and guitar goes, i use parallel compression on the guitars (just the "tiniest kiss" as i say) and then usually an la-3a for the bass to level it and give more sustain. Vocals, i gennerally leave uncompressed if possible. Some singers have no control over their dynamics but most do.
I tried listening to the audio examples back to back. Although I noticed the difference, I wouldn't say that one was more or less cohesive than the other. I've never understood the glue concept as I don't often hear mixes that sound as if they have the problem you're trying to fix. It would be great if you could give a more obvious example because I still don't see the need for this. You could easily just fix this with your faders. All these sounds are going to a limiter eventually anyway. So, why glue them now, instead of with the full mix?
I think I kind of agree with you but here's my thoughts on the matter: Often when you don't compress any of the busses the master compressor will behave weirdly no matter how you set the faders. The point in a lot of cases is to shape the signal for the master compressor and limiter. (This isn't really glue compressing necessarily.) Honestly solo drums are the worst example for "glue" Modern electronic drums are very separate and punchy on purpose. I wouldn't compress a drum buss for glue unless it's real recorded drums. For me glue is most useful when processing a buss that has all instruments only (So no drums or vocals). Lot of different instruments can sound very out of place and too separate If they don't all go to the same buss processing. In an objective manner what glue compression is achieving is lowering the crest factor. (Crest Factor = the difference between peak and average level) If there's only random transients and no thick mass of sound carrying the mix then I find especially the mix to sound "too separate" or "not cohesive" You can't achieve this thick mass, or "glue" that easy on just the master buss because the drums are gonna hit it so hard. If you have managed to glue the rest of the mix with only master buss compression your drums will sound weak and have no punch.
I believe if you have each instrument balanced and compressed already then you dont need to GLUE it with anything, except the final step - compression on master bus.
Ableton Glue Compressor > LOTS of saturation; and sometimes before this I might add some quiet convolution reverb and some regular slow compression. usually does the trick 👌🏻
I'm really loving to send the waves ssl console master buss glue compressor plugin on the master mix buss main output, and it's glue my music multitracks Channels enhancer compression all over the mix together ❤
I like to use Abbey Road mastering chain or that Shadow Hill Compressor what is shown in the beginning of this video. Apart from that, SSL Comp and some saturation and distortion with like Vertigo VSM and some tape emulation like ATR-102.. Light reverb.
Well I’ll also say this, it is all perceived volume/dynamic based. A great way to glue things can come from inverting a signals phase, sending it to another sample and expand the signal against that with an EQ, or you can basically have a signal attenuate on a certain frequency like a bass which is side chained to the kick, so make sure you know your routing, because it’s effectively side chained to both, and then on another part of the frequency use an expander, there’s a bunch of ways to “glue” things, not just group processing, most refer it to this, just ask if compression on a group is the best action for your goal, and trust your ears, and go from there.
i've been wondering this thing for years, seeking words to define this and finaly i have found it because of your content popped out of nowhere. this is such a big help for me, thank you so much!
Excellent explanation 👌. It took me quite some time to incorporate this concept into my work because I hadn't had a genuine insight into what it was or how to do it right. I would only associate it with a compression technique that didn't even give me significant results. I'm pretty sure lots of people just understood this after watching this short
It's a completely subjective term, imo. It's basically a catch-all word that means you, "mixed multiple things to together to sound good." There is no "official" technique to accomplish this other than your ears telling you it's clean & uniform.
I just keep experimenting till I get the 3D effect I’m looking for. Along with the proper timing and the correct volume correlation between the sounds….also you wanna keep in mind which sound is thinner than the other and kinda what the distances of the sounds are gonna come off as when the track plays
I'm lazy. I use Izotope on the stereo out chanel then do few tweaks and viola! I'm careful however about setting my gain prior and applying eq to individual channels as required.
i feel like my style naturally sounds like the sounds are "glued", actually too much, to the point where u cant discern the layers separately, i think it would be cool if u made a video on how to seperate sounds particularly synths
Is "glue" a figure of speech that can also be achieved with a multiband compressor? I do everything you said but I don't have Ableton, so I don't have a "glue compressor." Is glueing just compressing everything together?
He was referencing it as very light, slow compression- so like for example you can bust all of your drums to one bus, put a compressor on it, turn the attack to like 50 ms and make sure it’s only compressing by like 1 or 2 dB and make the ratio light, like 1.2:1 or something like that. Low ratio, low dB reduction. Subtle compression
That's what I do. I bus my kick and snare and compress them. I do an old school trick where I turn the ratio ALL the way up and the threshold ALL the way down and just listen to the transients coming through while adjusting my attack and release. Then I turn everything back up with 2:1 ratio / parallel light saturation. I'm talking about glue'ing everything together though. I run multiband compressor on my master but I'm just trying to understand the whole "glue" concept. I appreciate the responses. 🫡💯
I use a lot of ambiance. Fade in and out long to and from silence. Lots of fades. My beats and vocals hang out on different frequency layers. Paints a good picture in RX. I hardly have to compress or force parts together because of the way I record and design.
I had the problem of not having my tracks as they should be and hoping to FIX it in the mix by gluing. Impossible. Get the sound right in the first place and gluing becomes far easier.
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I use whatever technique that’s optimal for achieving the desired result. There’s a tool that’s best for every task, and the task determines the best tool. Personally, I implement whichever method is the most efficient way to get me where I want to go. Your mileage may vary
Saturation by definition is a form of compression? No? I think bus saturation is the best form of glue, since all the new harmonics from each of the bus elements can blend together.
Glue is one of those terms where even once I learnt what people mean when they're saying it, it still doesn't make any sense, I hate it. At least 'compress', 'expand', 'limit', 'sidechain' hint at the overall effect. You might as well say you're 'zipping' layers together, or 'braiding' them as equally unhelpful terms. It's so stupid and overused
I bet back in the day some novice used actually glue in the studio? Hey when i first scratched a record i actually scratched the needle on the record while another 1 played. 😂. Always wondered why the records never played the same.
very cool that he mentions not only compression. Saturation for glueing works so well for me
it's because satuation is gonna compress the signal somewhat too!
Crazy !! It's the 1st time I'm hearing this lol I need to try it !!!
I do all of those - in small amounts. In my mix I have instruments grouped into separate buses - one for drums, one for pads, one for keys, guitars, etc. These have their own light compression and maybe saturation. The entire mix get's glued with my new favourite "BX Glue" - which does exactly what it says it does! Sometimes I add tape to the master bus too.
Hello, just curious, what is it that you prefer from bx glue as compared to other glue compressors?
@@aemythjensen Nothing in particular, other than how easy it is to use. I have other multiband compressors but BX Glue is a powerful VCA compressor with lots of added features (like width control, sidechain and saturation/EQ tilt)
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Probably shilling @@aemythjensen
Buster SE compressor is pure fire
@@NathanStar-vw3dm LOL - yeah. Your comment on my comment has earnt me $10 from Plugin Boutique. Thanks friend!
my fav trick is to send everything to a reverb and then compress the reverb. then, sidechain it to the kick
edit fwiw: don’t send literally everything +0db to the send. only send select sounds at varying levels
woww that’s some scientist type of production, gonna try this obe
Ehhhhh that can have issues.
Because you lose the dynamics of different things, if you just merge them with the reverb. Like ideally you should be able to hear each individual item instead of just a merged mess imo.
It could work if you use a sort of bus channel with your reverb on. I.e. sending items which have the same sort of transients to the same buss.
Then again I'm no expert.
I've done something similar:
I took the whole dry signal, added some reverb, then compress and distort it so you get a maximum of little artifacts with it, EQ it. Then dial it back in gently with the dry signal.
Doesn’t really work for some genres tho. I don’t put Reverb on everything in my mix, I like to keep some elements dry and use delays, creates a sense of space without getting muddy, I only put reverb on my elements that call for it. This is the way to go IMO opinion, if you’re making stuff that’s dense like Trance, UKhardcore, Hardstyle ect.
@@naughtyducky6325 "I only put reverb on my elements that call for it."
...like elements that need to be glued together.
Also this is most likely a very short reverb.
When gluing drums I like using a transient shaper, parallel compressing, and a small bit of distortion
The day I got Pancz was overwhelming, as I suddenly realised everything I had made before was subpar. Transient shaping is one of the first things I do now!
Recently got in to music production and could not figure out why my track sounded a bit tacky. This tip will definitely fix that thanks!!
I need to take a sound design class, all these tutorials go right over my head
Another good tip for vocals and transitions I like to use is throwing a phaser-flanger on and adjust the settings. It can take a dry sound and kinda mold it into the mix
That's a great idea!
I'll remember to try this out.
One of Ableton’s best tools! 😊 great vid!
Best explanation i've ever had.
i always use tape plugins where I saturate sound togetter. It not only glues the track very good, it sounds warmer and has more character aswelk
I like saturation a lot
I like to have a "room verb" send that sort of emulates mic bleed and/or the sound of a control booth
Love your shorts, but I often wish they were at least 2-3 minutes long
I work mainly with Rock/Metal tracks so I do Parallel Compression on Kicks and Snares (mono comp) and then a separate one on toms, cymbals/overheads and rooms (stereo comp).
As far as bass and guitar goes, i use parallel compression on the guitars (just the "tiniest kiss" as i say) and then usually an la-3a for the bass to level it and give more sustain.
Vocals, i gennerally leave uncompressed if possible. Some singers have no control over their dynamics but most do.
True Iron changed my life almost as much as finding FL in the first place. I can make things actually sound "done" now instead of sketchbook ideas.
Looking it up now, seems promising
@Vingul I don't encourage people to buy plugins much, but Massive, Razor, and True Iron are 3 I can vouch for.
Compression with some tube or tape saturation does the trick, actually often just saturation alone
Glue compressor(often on drums), sometimes saturation(bass sound, pads, filter sweeps) and short reverbs (mainly synth leads, plucks)
I tried listening to the audio examples back to back. Although I noticed the difference, I wouldn't say that one was more or less cohesive than the other. I've never understood the glue concept as I don't often hear mixes that sound as if they have the problem you're trying to fix.
It would be great if you could give a more obvious example because I still don't see the need for this. You could easily just fix this with your faders. All these sounds are going to a limiter eventually anyway. So, why glue them now, instead of with the full mix?
I think I kind of agree with you but here's my thoughts on the matter:
Often when you don't compress any of the busses the master compressor will behave weirdly no matter how you set the faders. The point in a lot of cases is to shape the signal for the master compressor and limiter. (This isn't really glue compressing necessarily.)
Honestly solo drums are the worst example for "glue" Modern electronic drums are very separate and punchy on purpose. I wouldn't compress a drum buss for glue unless it's real recorded drums.
For me glue is most useful when processing a buss that has all instruments only (So no drums or vocals). Lot of different instruments can sound very out of place and too separate If they don't all go to the same buss processing.
In an objective manner what glue compression is achieving is lowering the crest factor.
(Crest Factor = the difference between peak and average level)
If there's only random transients and no thick mass of sound carrying the mix then I find especially the mix to sound "too separate" or "not cohesive"
You can't achieve this thick mass, or "glue" that easy on just the master buss because the drums are gonna hit it so hard. If you have managed to glue the rest of the mix with only master buss compression your drums will sound weak and have no punch.
I believe if you have each instrument balanced and compressed already then you dont need to GLUE it with anything, except the final step - compression on master bus.
Ableton Glue Compressor > LOTS of saturation; and sometimes before this I might add some quiet convolution reverb and some regular slow compression. usually does the trick 👌🏻
I find using the OTT compressor by Xfer on the master helps a lot. I turn the depth down to about 35-55% and turn the dnwd % down to 40%.
I'm really loving to send the waves ssl console master buss glue compressor plugin on the master mix buss main output, and it's glue my music multitracks Channels enhancer compression all over the mix together ❤
Yeah. I need that all time for creating my tracks. Send it after in reverb. Sounds always better.
I like to use Abbey Road mastering chain or that Shadow Hill Compressor what is shown in the beginning of this video. Apart from that, SSL Comp and some saturation and distortion with like Vertigo VSM and some tape emulation like ATR-102.. Light reverb.
I'd already been doing this but never knew what they mean by glu till now thanx
Well I’ll also say this, it is all perceived volume/dynamic based. A great way to glue things can come from inverting a signals phase, sending it to another sample and expand the signal against that with an EQ, or you can basically have a signal attenuate on a certain frequency like a bass which is side chained to the kick, so make sure you know your routing, because it’s effectively side chained to both, and then on another part of the frequency use an expander, there’s a bunch of ways to “glue” things, not just group processing, most refer it to this, just ask if compression on a group is the best action for your goal, and trust your ears, and go from there.
i've been wondering this thing for years, seeking words to define this and finaly i have found it because of your content popped out of nowhere. this is such a big help for me, thank you so much!
No problem, happy to help!
Compression works well for me
If this man was ever in a room with Au5 the musical world would not survive
For me glue in production is mainly huffing the stuff for inspiration. But im quite sure you can use it like this also.
Excellent explanation 👌. It took me quite some time to incorporate this concept into my work because I hadn't had a genuine insight into what it was or how to do it right. I would only associate it with a compression technique that didn't even give me significant results. I'm pretty sure lots of people just understood this after watching this short
Super helpful thank you!!
Thank you! I didn’t know that was a thing
super helpful to remember to apply all these. thanks again for all the great tips!
No problem, glad to help 👍
Tone Projects's Unisum Mastering Compressor's preset "Sweet Sweet Glue" is awesome.
excellent overview
It's a completely subjective term, imo. It's basically a catch-all word that means you, "mixed multiple things to together to sound good." There is no "official" technique to accomplish this other than your ears telling you it's clean & uniform.
This was very helpful, thank you
You are truly invaluable!
I just keep experimenting till I get the 3D effect I’m looking for. Along with the proper timing and the correct volume correlation between the sounds….also you wanna keep in mind which sound is thinner than the other and kinda what the distances of the sounds are gonna come off as when the track plays
My favorite is sending the full mix to a light studio reverb 👌
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Bro using that the Kount sample pack 👌
These videos are great
Just running them through the same mixer often works.
😂🎉
I’m big on group saturations and glue compressor
how it's made type of voice. i like it
I literally just sound design them to compliment each other
I'm lazy. I use Izotope on the stereo out chanel then do few tweaks and viola! I'm careful however about setting my gain prior and applying eq to individual channels as required.
Nice trick!
Thanks!
I glue my sounds with superglue. One has to be very careful though, as it's quite easy to glue one's fingertips to to the keyboard in the process.
That's not glue on your keyboard, brother! Cheers haha
Just sent the whole mix to soundgoodizer and its glued
SSL bus compressor ftw
Expanding on this, the townhouse adaptation of the SSL g bus comp. My favorite plugin. Until I get a bus comp+ 😂 one day
what bus, the one you take to town?
Man I wish you did like a 5 to 10 minute video on this and stuff like it
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i like to use slight distortion and saturation to bring shit together
Glue comp/upward comp/reverb(same environment)/distortion(harmonics)
I feel like glue is essentially saturation + compression. Vintage Tape simulation plugins do this and add warmth.
It’s been so long, this almost all sounded like mumbo jumbo to me. I need to get back into music production
i feel like my style naturally sounds like the sounds are "glued", actually too much, to the point where u cant discern the layers separately, i think it would be cool if u made a video on how to seperate sounds particularly synths
What Plugins Are Good For “Gluing” Sounds Together.
Any fl compressors have this or any free good ones
Is "glue" a figure of speech that can also be achieved with a multiband compressor? I do everything you said but I don't have Ableton, so I don't have a "glue compressor." Is glueing just compressing everything together?
He was referencing it as very light, slow compression- so like for example you can bust all of your drums to one bus, put a compressor on it, turn the attack to like 50 ms and make sure it’s only compressing by like 1 or 2 dB and make the ratio light, like 1.2:1 or something like that.
Low ratio, low dB reduction. Subtle compression
Just group process them together using the same processing and very very subtly
That's what I do. I bus my kick and snare and compress them. I do an old school trick where I turn the ratio ALL the way up and the threshold ALL the way down and just listen to the transients coming through while adjusting my attack and release. Then I turn everything back up with 2:1 ratio / parallel light saturation. I'm talking about glue'ing everything together though. I run multiband compressor on my master but I'm just trying to understand the whole "glue" concept. I appreciate the responses. 🫡💯
My favorite glue is to put a tape machine on the master track.
Same always use tape machine
I use SSL Buss Compressor on each of my four Main Busses.
I use a lot of ambiance. Fade in and out long to and from silence. Lots of fades. My beats and vocals hang out on different frequency layers. Paints a good picture in RX. I hardly have to compress or force parts together because of the way I record and design.
Just put OTT on the master 😂. Really it works well about 20%
If you wanna loose a tone of headroom, due to your lowend going out of phase, sure……
I use elmer's glue
So this is basically the reason sends exist, right?
I think Re - Amping is the best glue
Sometimes the absence of glue can be a unique sound in itself
I had the problem of not having my tracks as they should be and hoping to FIX it in the mix by gluing. Impossible. Get the sound right in the first place and gluing becomes far easier.
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Substitute feature for glue comprezsor in ableton live 11 intro?
Just use the standard compressor in ableton and copy the settings in the vid, for the release set it to 2.4s
@@andrewplummer7372 will do preciate it
@@andrewplummer7372 so I group the tracks first then put the compressor on the track that I group meaning it will be glued by doing so?
@invisiblecurious856 yeah that's right bud. Just put the compressor on the group track and follow the rest of the vid 👌
@@andrewplummer7372 bet
Compression, saturation/tape.
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That ba dum tss* sound making my brain think Fletwood Mac's The Chain is gonna start playing
what is "saturating your sound" when there's no tape at play?
busses and sends ma boi
what are those drums?
Bro that drum loop in the background is from Splice 😂
I don't use compression or less as possible. saturation in parallel is and option.
I use whatever technique that’s optimal for achieving the desired result. There’s a tool that’s best for every task, and the task determines the best tool. Personally, I implement whichever method is the most efficient way to get me where I want to go. Your mileage may vary
I have to resubscribe to your channel every second day. Why do i get unsubbed?
what 808 he use chat
limiter is the easiest way to do this, it brings everything to a similar level
My favorite way to add glue is to grab my bottle of elmers and just pour it all over the screen
This is gluettony!
This is exactly my problem with vocals, they always sound separated from everything 😅
Saturation by definition is a form of compression? No? I think bus saturation is the best form of glue, since all the new harmonics from each of the bus elements can blend together.
bitcrush the master!!!!!!!!!! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
I got PVA all over my laptop trying to follow this tutorial
I mix until I am satisfied, 🤣self thought/UA-cam how to when it comes to learning music, so I only make music by ear.
Cohesiveness
Glue is one of those terms where even once I learnt what people mean when they're saying it, it still doesn't make any sense, I hate it. At least 'compress', 'expand', 'limit', 'sidechain' hint at the overall effect. You might as well say you're 'zipping' layers together, or 'braiding' them as equally unhelpful terms. It's so stupid and overused
Gorilla Tape is always an option
I bet back in the day some novice used actually glue in the studio? Hey when i first scratched a record i actually scratched the needle on the record while another 1 played. 😂. Always wondered why the records never played the same.
distortion on the master :D
Quite a sticky subject... 😂
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