Seed Talk #29 - Eucalyptus with Dave Dowling
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Love the beautiful blue-green and silvery gray foliage of eucalyptus but have some questions about growing it? Today, Lisa and Layne are joined by Dave Dowling of Ball Seed to discuss all things eucalyptus. They cover why eucalyptus is worth growing, the presence of "rogue" seedlings when starting from seed, plant productivity, harvesting and overwintering tips, the best varieties to grow, which varieties to avoid, and more. Listen to the podcast and learn the best tips and techniques for growing eucalyptus on your farm or in your garden!
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I feel like I always need to have paper and pen in hand whenever I listen to your podcasts. Thank you so much for all the information!!
Thanks so much for the kind words, Jessica! So happy you are enjoying our "Seed Talk" podcasts ☺ Thanks again for watching, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
love this! i have your book lisa and now I'm just getting started on watching all your YT videos! ! thank you so much!
I've been wanting to grow eucalyptus but just couldn't find seeds and now I know why!
Yes, hopefully you will start to see more seeds becoming available again soon 🤞Have a fantastic day and a wonderful spring! 🤗
Just the right info I need!! You guys are the best! Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for the kind words, Fion ☺ So happy you found this episode helpful! Thanks again for watching, and have a fantastic evening! 🤗
I potted my eucalyptus just yesterday. Most of them are 2-3 inches long, first time growing & so happy! Will definitely try to overwinter atleast a couple of them as Dave Dowling suggested!
Pictures of your eucalyptus plants/trees make me so excited!
Oooo - yay! So excited for your eucalyptus seedlings ☺ Best of luck with your eucalyptus growing and overwintering! Hope you will have an abundance of foliage to cut 💚 Have a wonderful day! 🤗
Johnny's did a trial on Eucalyptus grown in an unheated tunnel in zone 5 over winter with protection, and they survived! I've been bringing in my peppers for years, so this makes sense.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing this information, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
Thank you!! The podcast video was so helpful, you covered all of my questions. You guys rock 👏
Yay - thanks for the positive feedback, Sarah! Hope you have some eucalyptus plants in your future 🐨☺🐨 Have a wonderful day! 🤗
I just got my plugs in from Farmer Bailey Thank you for the growing information. 🌻
Yay - great timing! Enjoy your eucalyptus, and have a fantastic day, Kim! 🤗
So very informative! Thank you so much! 🌻
Thanks so much for the positive feedback, Jean! Have a wonderful day 🤗
Awesome talk! Great start with the koala humor!😄I’m in 7b with two that grew into trees. I hope they survived the winter!
Glad to hear you appreciated the koala references 🐨😂🐨 Wow - two trees! Fingers crossed they survived the winter for you 🤞 Thanks so much for watching, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
Great info! I only planted 1, just to see. Zone 8b, overwintered. I'll be planting more!
Oh, yay! Your overwintered eucalyptus should be amazing this year 😍 Thanks so much for watching, Carol, and have a lovely evening! 🤗
Great information 👍.
Thanks so much for the positive feedback, Karen! Have a wonderful day 🤗
I love your seed talk episodes and this one on eucalyptus was so timely for me! I grow Silver Dollar and Baby Dwarf Florist Blue from seed and this is my 3 year growing them from seed and what I’ve noticed is that Silver Dollar tends to be more robust whereas the Baby Dwarf will germinate fine but then just die off/wither one day out of the blue after it’s grown to an inch high. The leaves get brown and crispy even though they get the same amount of light and watering. I don’t know if it’s a fungal disease or what but the Baby Dwarf seem to be more susceptible.
How interesting, Fiona! Thanks for sharing 🐨 My 'Silver Dollar' tends to be quite robust, as well! So happy you enjoyed this episode ☺ Thanks again for watching, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
Fab info 🌻🌻🌻
Thanks so much, Sheila! So glad you enjoyed it ☺ Have a fantastic day! 🤗
Y'all must have known that I needed information on Eucalyptus. This is my first year growing it and I think I have 8 plants that survived out of 12 seeds started, and they're tiny still. I started them in February. Thanks for the fantastic information!! I may order plugs next year!! :)
Wow! 12 made it through the winter! You rock. I'm new at this too. I had one that made it most of the way through winter, however, I never planted it outside, I think it may have made it if I had. Well done.
Yay - great job, Emily! Even if you decide to order plugs in the future, at least you have some eucalyptus seed-starting experience under your belt now 😊 Thanks so much for watching and for sharing your story! Have a fantastic day 🤗
@@lisafeck1537 Thanks for sharing, Lisa, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
Where can someone order plugs from? Please share a link. Thank you
Thanks for the great video. Those yields sound exceptional (definitely higher than our hightunnel crop in Ontario). Are those yields at that 12" spacing? Our wholesalers expect about 30" stems. Would that many stems reach those lengths?
Thank you very much. Very interesting. I love the gunni and already killed 3. I live in south Portugal. I tryed to live it in the same pot. repoted or in direct soil. Any advice??? how is the wotering better?? do they need to get dry before next watering or not????from the botom???? thank you for the feedback.
As a florist. I love the gunny
Wow! Thank you for asking such great questions! You asked everything that I was wanting to know. Awesome video!
Thanks so much for the kind words! That is such a compliment ☺ Thanks again, and have a wonderful day and a lovely spring! 💚🤗💚
i did my silver drop from seeds the year before the fires... i still have it.. its big now. montreal canada so i bring it inside under grow light.
I'm in zone 4b, I dug my eucalyptus baby blue (6-7 plants) and silver plate (8-9 plants) out of the ground and over wintered them in my basement with grow lights. The largest pot size I used was for one of my largest silver plate. I used a 5 or 10 gal pot for it. Half of my baby blue are still alive and only one of my silver plate died. Can't wait to get them back outside into the ground. I ordered baby blue bouquet plugs this year and I am growing some parvuli gum too since January.
I'm so glad to hear that. Next year it might be tough!
Great job, Mim! 🙌 Wishing you an abundance of eucalyptus stems this year 🐨☺🐨 Thanks so much for watching, and have a fantastic day! 🤗
This is encouraging to hear! I’m a 1st time grower(home gardener) of eucalyptus and hope to bring it in each year. What type of potting soil did you use? A succulent mix or standard potting soil?
@@jenniferfisher1743 I used half pro mix and half pine bark. Be aware I did deal with fungus gnats. I used the yellow sticky sheets and used gnatrol and kept my watering to a minimum. They do need a lot of light, I placed mine in my finished basement next to large windows and still supplemented with LED shop lights over heard.
Just wanted to share my home garden eucalyptus story. Many years ago i bought a eucalyptus plant in a 4 inch pot at a local garden center. I planted it on the south side of my house in zone 7b North Carolina. It came back bigger every year. The bigger it got, the faster it grew. Within about 5 years it started to push the foundation of my house up. The foundation cracked and the drywall inside the house began to crack. It happened fast. So I guess the moral of the story is: Do not plant it close to your foundation if you are in a warm climate where it turns into a tree.
Oh my goodness - how scary! 😱 Thanks so much for sharing this cautionary tale with everyone! It is hard to imagine a small seedling turning into a tree, but - as your story demonstrates - it can and will happen 🌳 Thanks again for watching and sharing your story! Have a wonderful evening 🤗
Same with wisteria, in the south, they have taken over the natural ecosystem. Vining plants are basically impossible to kill. They will bust through a basement or foundation blocks away from the original plant. They, like Wisteria, are basically uncontrollable in lower states thanks to the temperatures. They don't warn people they are really trees in their natural environment. I'm glad you are spreading your experience!
I am in 7b as well and started a few varieties of eucalyptus from seed, silver dollar, willow and another. The willow grew to 10' the first year. I wish I would have known this before and put it in a more appropriate spot in the garden. I saw off about 8' off the top each year. We had a very cold winter this year and it has a lot of damaged leaves. I need to figure out how much I can trim off vs how much will come back this spring.
I’m in dry zone 9: I worry it will fry in the direct sun. Has anyone tried growing in hot dry climate?
Can you talk about, and tell me about the glacier. Does it go by another name? I can’t find information on it.
I’m a little late with a comment but just listened to this. I am in zone 9B so eucalyptus is used as a landscape plants several feet tall. But to use for bouquets I want to keep it short. Do you prune it in the fall before the cold season or in the spring after the cold season?
I have a long main branch about 18 inches the side branches about 6 inches long but all on the bottom 3 inches.
Should I cut the long hanging main stem? If so how much. The plant was shipped this way from the nursery. Thank you.
What is the variety sold by florists called "seeded eucalyptus" - it is so gorgeous!!
I would like to know this, too!
Hey, Beverly! I will be talking to Dave on Monday and will try to remember to ask him this ☺ Have a great day!
Seeded Eucalyptus is an older plant that is producing seeds. You would need older mature plants growing in zone 9 or 10 to get seeds. Think of an oak tree. They need to be tall, older trees to produce acorns (seeds). You don’t get that growing eucalyptus overwintered in a high tunnel or field as an annual.
I"m in 6a I had 1 year when my eucalyptus was 6 foot tall! Other years have been no where near that! Wondering best way to fertilze. Also I love lemon bush euc as a cut, tips can go down but I don't have a problem with 90% of it, other than tips....
Hello! Great point regarding cutting the tips off of your stems 🙂 Regarding fertilizer, Dave just said to fertilize your plants and that any type of fertilizer will work. Hope that helps! Wishing you some large eucalyptus plants and a wonderful day 💚
Hi thanks for this. I got a few interesting rogue seedlings as well. IS there an information source to be able to identify these? Thank you
Hello 👋 Great idea! For now, the best resource for identification would probably be to look up images of different varieties and see which one looks the most similar. Hope you have lots of lovely foliage to cut this year! Thanks so much for watching, and have a wonderful day 🤗
I am a home gardeners and have two seeds that made it during the germination process. I am planning on growing mine in pots to bring in over winter. What type of potting soil do you recommend, traditional mix or succulent mix? Do the plants like to dry out between watering?
Hello, Jennifer! Dave said to water eucalyptus plants like you would any other crop (do not drown them but also do not let them be dry for extended periods of time). Regular potting mix is probably fine, as long as it is not perpetually wet or soggy. Best of luck, and have a great day! 🤗
i just bought a houseplant do i keep it in doors for the winter 34:17 34:17
Does anyone sell seeds that have been treated ? Our state of Hawaii requires the following : A certificate of treatment or Phytocanitary Certificate stating the treatment chemical and dosage is required.
How do you feed them? My plants grow ok, but I want to encourage more growth! Also, do you find Euc grows better with more or less water?
Hello, Julie! I just checked in with Dave, and he said the following: Fertilize your plants (any type of fertilizer will work), and water them like you would any other crop (do not drown them but also do not let them be dry for extended periods of time). Hope this helps, and have a great evening! 🤗
Could I order plugs to Saskatchewan Canada ? Perhaps I could grow it in a 4 inch pot buried ? My dad grew red geranium this way and dug up in fall out under lights for the winter and took cuttings for the next year
Hello, Helena! Dave may be able to recommend plug sources for you in Canada, so you may want to reach out to him. Thanks so much for watching, and have a wonderful day! 🤗
have wondered IF you can grow eucalyptus in upper northeastern Illinois??
Hello, Donna! Dave said that in locations with shorter growing seasons, you will still be able to grow eucalyptus and have enough time to harvest (provided that you plant early enough). You just may not be able to harvest for as long as people in locations with longer growing seasons. Thanks so much for watching, and have a great day! 🤗
🌻To remove sap, rub peanut butter on it...washes right off 🤗
Thanks for the helpful tip, Jess! 🥜🥜🥜 Eucalyptus is a powerful scent that can be extremely difficult to wash off 👃 Thanks so much for watching, and have a lovely day! 🤗
Coconut oil is better
I’ve managed to get , baby blue and , silver coin. Zone 4 b I’ll try overwintering with other overwintered items! Seeds are too difficult to source!
How nice that you will have a couple of different varieties to cut from this year! Thanks so much for watching, and best of luck with your overwintering next year 🤗 Have a lovely day!
@@LayneAngeloTGW thank you!
This is our first year we were able to order Eucalyptus Seed. Started them in January (zone 4b ) we have about 15 that are around 2-3in already 😬 A few of them do have some “bumps” on the leaves though and I’m having the hardest time trying to figure out what is causing it.
I grew eucalyptus last year for the first time and encountered bumps on the leaves as well and we didn’t end up being able to use our plants because of it. I think it is oedema, a condition that affects the transpiration in the leaves. Perhaps too much humidity.
Thank You so much !
When Dave refers to growing in “Ontario” is he talking about the province of Ontario in Canada?
Dave - is it true that you shouldn't plant Euc near other flowers bc it could kill or stunt their growth?
Hello, Nic! I asked Dave about this, and he said he had not heard of that issue. He added that weeds seemed to grow really well around his eucalyptus in the field 😂 Hope this helps, and have a wonderful evening! ☺