The Narcissist and the Discard: The Real Reasons They Discarded You

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  • In today's video Jill talks about the Narcissist and the Discard. In today's video she is going to tell you the real reasons that Narcissists discard a person they are in a relationship with. And this doesn't only apply to people who are in a romantic relationship with a Narcissist, this applies to any relationship someone has with a Narcissist, including the relationships they have with their own children. If you have a relationship with a Narcissist, or you know someone who is, then today's video is for you.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 201

  • @emmarae4322
    @emmarae4322 4 місяці тому +64

    They become ice cold. They show their disdain for you that's always been there.

    • @sharoneh8929
      @sharoneh8929 8 днів тому +2

      @@emmarae4322 Yep so cold! Whoa 😧 I was blindsided. But I am Free, so glad it is OVER💯❗🎯✅✝️

  • @higgnz1966
    @higgnz1966 11 місяців тому +145

    One month ago, my soon-to-be ex-wife filed for divorce with zero warning. I was devastated. After learning about narcissism, I now understand better why she had treated me harshly, and why she decided to end the marriage. This video helped me understand what I had lived through for 13 years. Thank you! Thank you!

    • @wimw.8637
      @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +21

      I'm with you... It was all a game..

    • @bmoremom8458
      @bmoremom8458 11 місяців тому +21

      You are finally not her hostage. Enjoy your freedom to heal and not attract these dirtballs.

    • @onamateo9224
      @onamateo9224 11 місяців тому +7

      Thanks Lessons Learned👍👍👍

    • @onamateo9224
      @onamateo9224 11 місяців тому +6

      Thank u M out and no coming back

    • @angelakeely5859
      @angelakeely5859 9 місяців тому +8

      It's a *Blessing in Disguise*. , you will see that in time, enjoy your new found Freedom and ☮️✨💜✨

  • @johnpichla9557
    @johnpichla9557 11 місяців тому +55

    Because I finally grew the balls and said NO!

  • @cassiebennet4262
    @cassiebennet4262 11 місяців тому +80

    My sister recently stood with her husband through his vaccine injury, alcoholism when he went to rehab, his unstable relationship with his parents/employers who fired and rehired him several times and now he is just discarding her out of the fucking blue. After 12 years of marriage. I cannot wrap my head around these vile wastes of flesh. He's gone through a series of severe trauma in just under 2 years, she's held him up in every way possible and he's just throwing her away like trash. These scumbags are absolute horrors of human beings and I'm starting to question if they're human at all.

    • @cindyrosebud838
      @cindyrosebud838 11 місяців тому +22

      My psychologist calls them HSO - human shaped object. He won't last long on his own. He's riding high on all the fuel your sister gave him.

    • @edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
      @edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 11 місяців тому

      I'm convinced that these individuals are empty meat suits. They have evil souls, and they destroy and consume anything with a heartbeat without mercy.

    • @warriormom5843
      @warriormom5843 8 місяців тому +11

      They’re not. They are demons.

    • @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729
      @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729 4 місяці тому +1

      They aren't human, but evil beings

    • @liseduedue2715
      @liseduedue2715 4 місяці тому +7

      Exactly . Thanks for shearing such a story , they also have drug / alcohol problems and throwing people like trash out of the blue, yesss
      Better don’t share any financial info with them even if it’s a relationship
      So sad and dangerous

  • @Oceansgreen
    @Oceansgreen 4 місяці тому +22

    They need to feel needed and of value, always looking for praise, attention and admiration. They can’t handle criticism, not being the one in control, being questioned….they aren’t able to have a reasonable discussion, it always ends up in an argument or they walk out or clam up!! They are extremely difficult people to live with, you’re always walking on egg shells, have to think before you say anything incase you say something that upsets them and they go into one of their famous rages. Life is so much better not living with a narc.

  • @wimw.8637
    @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +30

    At the brutal sudden discard she told me cold hearted that is was all a roll play she had been doing to me all this time. Everything was fake..
    And this was after 30 years together...
    They are robots not human.

    • @L.Fontein7
      @L.Fontein7 11 місяців тому +6

      Ha! Robots are programmed to have better manners than narcs!

    • @emmarae4322
      @emmarae4322 11 місяців тому +3

      😢😢😢

    • @viewerwatching5712
      @viewerwatching5712 2 місяці тому

      They are demon possessed.

  • @spacegirl226
    @spacegirl226 11 місяців тому +63

    Jill is right. Two years out from my discard, and it's the best thing that ever happened to me. I would never go back to that skeaze now that I know what he is and understand what he did to me. Nobody deserves that kind of horrible treatment. He's already remarried(!), so #1 was definitely true for me: I was replaced. I pity her, but he's her problem now.
    Screw him. I'm free!
    Take care, everyone. Recovering and healing is a hard journey, but you're worth it. Don't give up on yourself.
    Thanks, Jill.

    • @B-Nia
      @B-Nia 10 місяців тому

      👏👏👏

    • @paulneal7495
      @paulneal7495 7 місяців тому +1

      Skeaze is a good word

    • @KeishaWoodbridge
      @KeishaWoodbridge 7 місяців тому +1

      How'd u get thru it? It's been a month. I caught him cheating again after almost 8 years. I tried closure and he said let's take a 30 day break because we can never stay away from each other. I told him not this time and he yelled at me and told me I'd never be able to find him bla bla. He lied for years it appears. I'm so lost . I'm trying so hard to move on.

    • @spacegirl226
      @spacegirl226 7 місяців тому

      @@KeishaWoodbridge I'm sorry you're having to go through this. These people don't understand the damage they cause.
      What helped me, which may not be possible for you, is that I moved away. I had no choice. But being away from him made it so much easier to deal with because I wasn't running into him and the only way we contacted each other was through text or email, nothing vocal or in person. You're going to have to break off all contact if you can, block him everywhere. Change your number. Get new email addresses. Get off social media so you aren't tempted to check on him. You have to do the tough stuff first because you're already processing the heart break. You add this to it.
      Remember this: the MF cheated on you. He doesn't love you or care about you because if he did, he wouldn't have strayed. You would have gotten closure, you could have talked about what happened. He's not going to give you that -- he THREATENED you. Remember all the bad things, write them down. If you're feeling weak, look at your list of awful things he did to you. GET ANGRY. Make up your mind that you are done with this BS and that you deserve better.
      My closure came when I discovered my ex had remarried. I wasn't even mad or upset. I laughed, I was relieved. I took a look at all the things I realized, the research I'd done into narcissism, I remembered all the awful shit he did, and I was finally able to let go without worrying and looking over my shoulder that he was going to slink back in. He still might try to hoover when this marriage grows stale. I gave him so many chances to make things right, and he refused.
      I know everything I need to. And for you with your ex, if you take a moment, make a list, you'll know everything you need to as well. You don't deserve a cheater. You deserve a gentleman. Let that stupid MF go so you can have what you need and want. He was in your way. He was stopping you. You're done.
      YOU CAN DO IT! YOU CAN DO IT! Internet high five.

    • @sharoneh8929
      @sharoneh8929 День тому

      @KeishaWoodbridge I'm praying for you 🙏🏾. Just one day at a time. Be good to yourself and take care of you now.

  • @GuitarMatt
    @GuitarMatt 8 місяців тому +26

    4:00 - #2 is where it's at! (That narcissist HATES something called ACCOUNTIBILITY)

  • @judytax9887
    @judytax9887 11 місяців тому +45

    Two years ago I started dating a man and he was decent for a couple of months and then the devaluing started overnight. My walls went up, and I kept a lot of distance from him. He moved to a town about 30 miles away for his job and soon after the gaslighting started. I did not give him the chance to discard me because I discarded him. I saw the writing on the wall and got out!

    • @samscarletta7433
      @samscarletta7433 11 місяців тому +6

      He will probably try to come back. Don't let him!!

    • @cyndigooch1162
      @cyndigooch1162 11 місяців тому +3

      Good on you and they don't all attempt to return to cause more trauma, but it's best to be prepared! It seems like you have no desire to get back with him anyway. 😊

    • @chenanigans
      @chenanigans 4 місяці тому +2

      Good for you for having enough self-esteem and self-worth and value. I'm going through round three right now with my narcissist. He discarded me twice already came back and then the last time he discarded me. I went no contact for 6 months and then he's trying to get back into my life now and I can't say that I have enough self-worth to say no. But I am very aware of what's happening and I'm trying to watch these videos and start therapy to help myself recognize what I'm dealing with and hopefully snap out of it

    • @jenettepieters4612
      @jenettepieters4612 26 днів тому

      6:09 ​@@cyndigooch1162

  • @carlthornton1831
    @carlthornton1831 11 місяців тому +40

    Once I discovered what was happening to me and let her know that I know that she's a narcissist. She replied "Ms. Narcissist" I also told her that I know my worth and shelf life wasn't going to work while your grooming your next victim and that I wouldn't be subject to anymore shaming, gaslighting and greyrocking. She greyrocked me again and I blocked her. 6 months no contact and feeling much stronger like my old self

  • @treesaremadeofwood2145
    @treesaremadeofwood2145 11 місяців тому +35

    I wish I had known this 13 1/2 years ago, it would have saved me from the hell she caused and the delight she takes in ghosting, Stonewalling and parental alienation...... I never knew let alone could have believed a person could be so vicious and so cold...... It makes you lose faith in people and makes you realise you can't really trust people because the closer they are, the more they can stab you in the heart and in the back.....

    • @wimw.8637
      @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +2

      So true...

    • @BryonSturgill
      @BryonSturgill 4 місяці тому +1

      Im right there with you brother, it sucks so bad!!!

    • @liseduedue2715
      @liseduedue2715 4 місяці тому +1

      Yesss never want to get very close to anybody anymore

    • @JD.yahthatsme
      @JD.yahthatsme Місяць тому

      It’s like unreal. What did you do?

  • @helloDobson3259
    @helloDobson3259 11 місяців тому +39

    This so well describes what I went through at the end of a 20 year marriage to my ex-wife. The discard is just brutal to a healthy person with human empathy and compassion; just zero closure.

    • @wimw.8637
      @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +5

      I am totally with you, had the exact same experience. They are not human but robots.

    • @ianmasters4225
      @ianmasters4225 11 місяців тому +2

      Right there with you. I knew she was trying to punish me since it happened now I know why. She is just vengeful.

    • @3arhodes
      @3arhodes 2 місяці тому

      Did they try to come back?

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik 17 днів тому +2

      You do your own closure..

    • @sharoneh8929
      @sharoneh8929 День тому

      @3arhodes No he married someone else while we were engaged. For me, there's no coming Back, ever!!!

  • @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729
    @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729 4 місяці тому +14

    Yes. The discard was abrupt. Suddenly she disappeared, without an explanation.

  • @AaronMartell-b9f
    @AaronMartell-b9f Місяць тому +3

    Just looking for people to take care of them.

  • @marcustrajan4873
    @marcustrajan4873 11 місяців тому +35

    Oh boy, been through break-ups (good and/or bad) and been ghosted but whoa, a narc discard is something else. The physical effects that accompanied the devaluing stage and then the discard were ones I would not want to ever put myself or anyone through.

    • @wimw.8637
      @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +6

      I hear you and know exactly where you have been through... they are beasts.

  • @writer1986
    @writer1986 11 місяців тому +15

    I'm a narcissistic target. I'm a people pleaser and give the benefit of the doubt. Therefore I've dated narcissists and am married to one. They've all discarded me after I started holding them accountable and speaking up for myself (ie. Find a full-time job, finish the dishes, no I can't hangout with you because I'm busy). I was dumped by all but my husband. He did try to reconnect with an ex, but that backfired because she's also narcissistic and tattled to me on Facebook, claiming she was the victim. BS. I left my husband after 6 years of his BS, he hit rock bottom, and finally started changing for me and our kids. Whew!... I don't recommend the rollercoaster ride that comes with narcissists. They're just miserable people who need to feel less miserable than you, so they put you through hell until they get bored of you.

  • @RaeKaeB
    @RaeKaeB 11 місяців тому +18

    It was a blessing I was discarded, that’s all I needed to hear!

  • @Sunshine-hb2tx
    @Sunshine-hb2tx 6 місяців тому +8

    My husband lied to me from the start of our marriage. He lied to me and chose not to tell me he had a girlfriend while proposing to me. He lied about his sexual transmited infection for 10yrs of our marriage. His excuse was that he knew that I wouldn't want to be with him if he had told me the truth.
    He lied to his family and our children that I was having affairs. I've never cheated. After months and yrs of arguments I discussed with him of is separating he insisted that we can work things out. However he ended up discarding me and made it clear that he made the decision to leave me.
    It is truly a blessing, I'm ready to move on

  • @zedmoe
    @zedmoe 11 місяців тому +13

    The one's I knew would love bomb/devalue/discard all in one visit, like a mini fix, or just honing the skills. They knew they didn't have much of a window to get even with me, for making them feel more insecure than they already were.
    I recognized the pattern of behaviour, long before I knew the clinical term for it, and cut them off. Just got too creepy around them and their constant need for reassurance.
    This is genuinely how they regulate their emotions, and self-validate themselves.

  • @Angie_Secret_Squirrel
    @Angie_Secret_Squirrel 7 місяців тому +10

    Im glad!!! Im FREE!! Definitely the best thing thats happened, demonic,malevolent, evil entities are not welcome in my life :)

  • @carlthornton1831
    @carlthornton1831 11 місяців тому +18

    I have a MS in Psychology and I went through all of the steps, "Love Bombing, shaming, gaslighting, triangulation and discard through greyrocking once I did research on the behavior and let the woman know that I knew what she is and what she was doing...

    • @wimw.8637
      @wimw.8637 11 місяців тому +2

      And how did she react?

    • @carlthornton1831
      @carlthornton1831 11 місяців тому

      @@wimw.8637 She said "Put a handle on it, it's Ms. Narcissist. " Then we both greyrocked each other...it's been 6 months NC... I'm getting back to my old self...✅️👍🏼👌

    • @jeffreyexposito3803
      @jeffreyexposito3803 21 день тому

      ​@@wimw.8637She discarded

  • @sleepydoppy8516
    @sleepydoppy8516 11 місяців тому +46

    You will never get closure with a narc. I allowed it to happen 3 times.

    • @forensicbadassprofiling
      @forensicbadassprofiling 11 місяців тому +9

      You did get closer.
      The way they mistreated and abused you is the closure.
      We can never expect a demon to say they're sorry or come change their behavior.
      They handed us the pain, we take that pain, and we heal.
      YOU have all the power now & YOU are the closure!!
      ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @L.Fontein7
      @L.Fontein7 11 місяців тому +4

      Maybe you could flip the script. You are loving, emotionally healthy and optimistic enough that you tried two more times. That takes courage, strength and guts. I commend you.👏👏👏

    • @sleepydoppy8516
      @sleepydoppy8516 11 місяців тому +2

      @@L.Fontein7 ok. You got a smile. Thank you

    • @SenSakura-dj6bq
      @SenSakura-dj6bq 6 місяців тому +3

      I really have a problem with closure. 18 months after the discard. I don't love that person, I don't miss her, I don't fantasize about getting back together, and yet I feek like I am not healing. I am still enraged and ruminate with all the abuse, cheating, lying, manipulation, extorsion, humiliation. I just want to stop thinking about that person and just focus in my life again.

    • @sleepydoppy8516
      @sleepydoppy8516 6 місяців тому +2

      @@SenSakura-dj6bq I'm at 8 months and feel the same wY. It sucks and I'm sorry you are going through this also.

  • @lauragadille3384
    @lauragadille3384 11 місяців тому +10

    My narcissistic father was definitely doing this, he discarded me before his passing. It really hurts when I loved him so much.

  • @opheliedussidour4643
    @opheliedussidour4643 3 дні тому

    Thank you. Years later people can watch this video and realize they are in a toxic/abusive relationship whose sole goal is to serve the relationshit for themselves and get out thank you again for this educational video.

  • @ladyvirgo013
    @ladyvirgo013 10 місяців тому +8

    Thanks for this information. I was brutally discarded by my husband of 12 years. He completely blindsided me and he enjoyed it.

  • @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729
    @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729 4 місяці тому +10

    Still suffering from the sudden discard

    • @JadaGates
      @JadaGates 4 місяці тому +4

      Me too, I am in so much pain…

    • @sharoneh8929
      @sharoneh8929 3 місяці тому +2

      After a few months of dating, while we were engaged, the "worm" married someone else. I was blindsided, because he never broke up with me💔. I confronted him right before the discard, he refused to give any reasons for his change of behavior. I saw the demon 👹, when he talked about holding grudges. What a shocker, but I am Free now😮. God is keeping and HEALING me✝️. I realized the rejection was the best thing that could have happened⭐. I found out new info about him✅. So glad it is Over💯. The new supply has no idea that she's in a demonic entrapment❗What gems in this video and spot on rational given to explain the discard with details accurately... The discard was brutal, and I gave myself closure to move forward. Be empowered to act in your own best interests and be kind to yourself 💕💕💕. Light and Love to all going through a discard. It will get better and the Best is yet to COME 🎯.

    • @roflcopter4273
      @roflcopter4273 8 днів тому +1

      Me too, me too. Please stay strong.

    • @sharoneh8929
      @sharoneh8929 8 днів тому

      @@roflcopter4273Will do. Each day gets better...

  • @judycrawford4415
    @judycrawford4415 11 місяців тому +10

    I am and was supremely blessed to let him go!

    • @paulwisdom1090
      @paulwisdom1090 8 місяців тому

      What happened why you let him go Judy?

  • @donnashaw6890
    @donnashaw6890 28 днів тому +1

    The discard would be theme best thing that’s ever happened to my sanity!

  • @johnpichla9557
    @johnpichla9557 11 місяців тому +13

    That was a great explanation video. I experienced all those situations before I even knew what narcissist personality disorder was. I spinned my wheels for year's 🤣🤔

  • @jimmoravec1326
    @jimmoravec1326 6 місяців тому +4

    Yup been through all of this on the list.
    The hurt and broken heart got pushed aside by anger now I’m ready for battle

  • @anantvirshid1766
    @anantvirshid1766 6 місяців тому +5

    Keep healthy boundaries, and you will get discarded! Awesome analysis. Keep up the good work.

  • @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729
    @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729 4 місяці тому +5

    The ending of your video was such a blessing and so empowering

  • @familylifescienceeducation5227
    @familylifescienceeducation5227 4 місяці тому +3

    The end is difficult. People will sometimes believe that the narc is the victim. No one knows who is who because so many lies have been told. However, a defining characteristic can sometimes be that the person who is not willing to trash the other person and who kept trying to seek help and who is not abusing substances...that person may be...may be....the non-narc. But that too has to be investigated. The only thing I can say is hold judgment because the non-narc was in a carnival of horror and is likely very disoriented and haven't entirely been themselves in such a long while that it adds another layer of difficulty in learning who is who.

  • @ianstewart942
    @ianstewart942 11 місяців тому +9

    Mine made false domestic abuse accusations against me with support from her narcissistic daughter to. Went to court ,i was found not guilty of 3 charges brought against me. The lies in court by them over a tv screen were evil and wicked,trying to paint me as a dangerous person. I could sense in the court that the Sheriff,my defence solicitor and the prosecution couldn't believe what was being said by them both. They both even couldn't remember what they had said on thier statements to the police Infact the daughter said different to what her mother had said in parts to what they were accusing me of. Take note. I loved this woman with all my heart ,we were due to get married to. In fact over a 4 year period with this woman she had hid from me that she was still legally married,after telling me from the start of our relationship that she was divorced. This came out in court. So there are some really,evil,devious,lieing people out there.

  • @DaRyteJuan
    @DaRyteJuan 11 місяців тому +6

    Thanks for this video. After I reestablished and enforced a boundary, the discard came almost instantaneously.
    I asked for an apology and got no response either.
    At least I have your video which confirms I did the exact right thing.

  • @HipHop-vg7cd
    @HipHop-vg7cd 10 місяців тому +6

    30 years married to one, finally got the terminology I needed to describe this hell! You are spot on, take warning folks. I’m grateful there is more info and knowledge about this subject now so others don’t waste their lives on these soul suckers like a lot of us have. I thought I was losing my mind and blamed myself for so much of his wrong doing for decades. In addition to making excuses for how hard he worked which is why he was ALWAYS absent from our lives! Little did I know!!! I finally got in that locked phone of his, boy was my gut ever right. That phone stayed glued to him like another limb on his body. UNREAL the ish they put you through 😡🤬

  • @lexilcott5747
    @lexilcott5747 11 місяців тому +7

    Hi Jill, you have made a very positive impact on me. I have a life full of female narcissists of various types and just got "out of" a relationship with one. She is now refusing to respect my boundaries and insists on coming to my place of work where I feel trapped. I guess it's time to go grey rock. Thank you Jill 🙏🌠💚

  • @lindaguy1808
    @lindaguy1808 11 місяців тому +13

    Excellent excellent video Jill. Thanks so much for all you do here! ❤

  • @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729
    @cryptolizardhehimithishers6729 4 місяці тому +3

    You are 💯 I experienced everything you mentioned. And the reasons. You are spot on.

  • @dmanmoto
    @dmanmoto 4 місяці тому +3

    What is this s*** This is exactly what happened to me.. I didn't even believe this shit was possible. Everything you said was my life with my ex Fiance. Oh my god this is my life story with her.

  • @zenmaiden1
    @zenmaiden1 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you Jill for this concise summary. I did the separation due to bad behavior , jealous of adult kids , he made tons of excuses about his horrible behavior blaming me and kids. Once I did that sep, he came back to tell me we don’t need to work on anything he’s done, so he tried to be on top for the record as the winner. His abuse did ramp up over a 12 mo period prior , I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. There wasn’t a valid reason for any of it . I also took care of him through 6 surgeries , all just a waste of my time. I have to listen to this video again and again .. I’m still feeling the loss of those years. ( not him).

  • @kat-75
    @kat-75 11 місяців тому +3

    Yay. Thankfully. Freedom to be me.

  • @venitagreer1404
    @venitagreer1404 11 місяців тому +3

    I agree everything you said about them discard you all point to me he discard me from 1-10 no closure , no warning I'm still going through this bad how he treat me 17 years in this man did everything for him, beside his side when he was down on his luck so much energy,time, money down the drain with him no from love from him all these he gave false hope to and he future fake now I'm left with no and no family especially his they all side with him on all the bad things he to people.

  • @noormohamed2991
    @noormohamed2991 10 місяців тому +4

    Spot on! Very accurate ❤

  • @437Colie
    @437Colie 12 днів тому

    I am able to identify with everything you mentioned & most of the comments from the community. Thank you for the valuable information & i feel validated by your videos. He knew i was on to him because i stopped cooking & cleaning as much & stopped showing interest & let him know im getting an apartment because the future we planned was a lie. Not realizing it was called future fakimg. When i sighed the new lease out of the city because hes a COP so i wantrd to not live in the sane area he really started to rage, lie, silent treatment, crying etc. He wouldn't allow me to come to our shared home with my mover. I had to give my mover a list of the things i wanted. Believe someone that I love and took care of for so long treating me as though I'm nobody

  • @josicordova1802
    @josicordova1802 3 місяці тому +2

    This video is so validating for me.. thank you 🙏

  • @JadaGates
    @JadaGates 4 місяці тому +1

    I needed this because I keep trying to explain it… what did I do wrong.. I tried so hard to please him… nothing I ever did was ever good enough.. I’m so broken… I carried him thru his worst times and was just thrown to the side like trash and the lies he told were atrocious.. he controlled my every move including purposely keeping me at home and buying the groceries and not wanting me to lose weight or be healthy… I really was blind and thought he cared for me.

    • @marciasimpson8852
      @marciasimpson8852 4 місяці тому +1

      Thrown away like an old pair if shoes, thats how I felt

    • @JadaGates
      @JadaGates 4 місяці тому

      @@marciasimpson8852 me too

  • @Swesum24
    @Swesum24 9 місяців тому +3

    💯 video! SPOT ON!

  • @bonitagleisle2470
    @bonitagleisle2470 День тому

    I know what I’m looking for now and can expect it but it still is would crushing every time like a glimpse of hope the get crushed every time

  • @dazpearce2096
    @dazpearce2096 11 місяців тому +5

    Good content as always Jill - and thanks for it.
    Made me think of a narcisstic person I knew 20 years ago - cycled through 'boyfriends' like most people change their socks. Must have been well into double figures in the couple of years I was acquainted with her. Interestingly enough I never heard her so much as say that she 'really liked' any of them, but then why would she?
    I mean...do people 'really like' a kettle or a toaster? When it stops working do we cry or go out and replace it?
    You nailed it J - this is how narcisstic people view other human beings...

  • @TimothyTaylor-i1v
    @TimothyTaylor-i1v 11 місяців тому +5

    Excellent video, Mrs. Wise! Nice clear break down on the subject. I don't see how anyone could have a question about the outcome on this matter. Very informative! Good night Mrs. Wise.

  • @MikeJackson690
    @MikeJackson690 7 днів тому

    In short: these people are the worst kinds you can encounter. We're all very unlucky to have done so 😔

  • @RWB20
    @RWB20 11 місяців тому +4

    We need holiday help videos! 😊😢😊 I dont want to go but know I have to. Just Thanksgiving, thank goodness. I'm making all these strategies in my head - and I keep hearing your voice in my head - "you can't out strategize narcissists". God help me.

    • @theenlightenedtarget
      @theenlightenedtarget  11 місяців тому +1

      I have one on this channel from last year I believe. Scroll through my videos on this account and you’ll find it.

  • @greghayes7933
    @greghayes7933 10 місяців тому +1

    We were together for 20 plus years ….once I finally confronted her on why she hadn’t touched me for the last 5 plus years pow she kicked me to the curb …last 10 years were brutal …thanks again for your spot on videos ❤

  • @ChrisS-vt8bw
    @ChrisS-vt8bw 11 місяців тому +2

    Mine wanted to discard me because of a new supply (who's currently married with children) and because the narcissist's Mom moved out of the house (abandonment issues). Now that the narcissist has been immersed in work and the crisis has passed, the discard is no longer mentioned. I'm still planning my exit strategy as I wait for the other shoe to drop or I'm in a position where I can leave. I keep myself safe and am in therapy. I am arming myself with knowledge like these videos. I would prefer to be discarded. Hanging on and pretending things are okay is torture, but I know techniques on how to deal with the narcissist better which makes this situation more tolerable.

  • @markcooper9033
    @markcooper9033 11 місяців тому +5

    Ms Jill...thank you again for your hard work and determination to put out purposeful content re narc abuse and recovery.☝️ This one was another homerun!💪👱‍♀️👍
    Keep up the good work

  • @veruc_w
    @veruc_w Місяць тому +1

    Very good list. Straight to the point. Thanks a lot ❤ its tremendously valuable

  • @MaryDBethany
    @MaryDBethany 7 місяців тому +2

    The last time I was discarded was when I was in intensive care, after waking from a coma. I had preeclampsia and then after being bullied in the few visits to the hospital that my husband made, I went into full toxemia. After an emergency C-section, I started having seizures and nothing was stopping the seizures. I eventually went into a coma. When I woke from the coma, no husband was at my side. (In the coma for 3 days). When he was notified that I was out of the coma, he came by the hospital in a few days and dumped me. (Both I and the baby were in bad shape, and I think he thought if he dumped me fast, then he wouldn't have responsibility for either of us. I tried to talk him out of this (I know, stupid me). When I finally got out of the hospital, he was more and more abusive to me (until he tried to choke me out). (He was still living in my house, but saying the marriag to me.e was over). After the near death, I told him to get out. He refused to leave , And told him that he better leave, or I was. calling the police. He left. I never reported him. I realize now that his wanting out was the best thing that could have happened to me.
    The attack in which I thought I was losing my life, and also a later request from his psychiatrist to meet with me, in which he made it clear that I needed to get out, that I was in danger and that he would never be a different person. The psychiatrist also gave me his diagnosis of NPD. and sociopathic (and "arrested at an adolescent way station").
    Since then I never stayed with a male who made me uncomfortable in the slightest. I have dated some nice men, but never was able to accept proposals of marriage. Just too damaged for that.
    My father and mother were narcs (my mother covert), then I married 3 narcs, the last one, the one who tried to choke me to death. Never married again, and do not date anyone past the first time they make me uncomfortable, or engage in any kind of gaslighting. Been there, done that. I attract narcs because I am a people pleaser, and am a nice person. SO even in my older age people ask me out and then boom, there is another narc, and boom I am out of the relationship, always before I have slept with them. (I take things very slow, and I say when something bothers me). It has been a tough life, but I am very happy on my own. It served me well during the pandemic. Still would like to be in a partnership with a kind and honest man, but will NEVER fall for a narc again, including family.
    Sadly, I have some narc kids, grown and successful. I raised them alone. I was devastated for a long time, but now my life feels more precious to me, and I practice deep-breathing if I think of them. Once a scapegoat always a scapegoat. Now I just remove my mind and body from those who have hurt me.
    Thank you so much for your videos, they have been so helpful to me. You know your stuff for sure. I am an expert through all the hell I have been through, but you have expanded my understanding which I really appreciate!! Your phrasing of your knowledge helps me a lot.
    Anyone watching these videos, PLEASE believe what you are hearing. Do not live in misery any time more than you have to. And if any one assaults you or a child, report them immediately and get them out of the home immediately. DO not let them return. Never have sex with them again.
    My best wishes to all the women and men who have been through this hell. Especially you young people, you can be more naive like I was.

    • @jimmoravec1326
      @jimmoravec1326 6 місяців тому

      We weren’t being naïve we did what normal people do and put our trust in someone we love. I had no idea what a narcissist even was until I seen some of these videos that described what was happening to me to a T.
      These people are down right demons in the flesh.
      I didn’t think someone could be so evil and uncaring.
      They have to be demonic because they don’t fear God because if they did they wouldn’t be treating people who love them so evil.

  • @etherealdeal1792
    @etherealdeal1792 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow. Thank u so much for the pep talk at the end and the info validating what I’ve been through. After a sudden narcissistic discard following me calling him out and seeing him for what he is,and him vocally fearing I was gonna break up with him, I’ve been shattered crying so much and chasing feeling crazy… I feel way better knowing this behavior is unfortunately a common pattern and that it is for the best to receive the discard. Thank you god bless you for sharing 🙏🏼🙏🏼💜

  • @fpitts8025
    @fpitts8025 2 місяці тому +1

    GIRLLLLLL YOU ARE THE BOMB💣💣 Everything you said is 💯 truth🤩 Very enjoyable!!!

  • @motowngirl5891
    @motowngirl5891 2 місяці тому +2

    Let him discard, if you discard they become very dangerous

  • @johnnytoronto1066
    @johnnytoronto1066 3 місяці тому +1

    Well done! ALL that you have said here jives with my experience 100%. Thank you very much.

  • @nicholaspuglia8519
    @nicholaspuglia8519 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank You!

  • @Regirl75
    @Regirl75 Місяць тому

    Oh my word, you pegged it. My friends and family said my STBX treated our marriage like a business. 30 years together, he cheated, said it ended but found out recently that he’s had an on and off relationship with the same woman for half our marriage and the kicker is there are two innocent little girls that came from it. No accountability, silent treatment.. kept me around for what?! Ugh, I’m so disturbed but slowly healing and getting back my life back. It’s a him problem now, I don’t want it.

    • @Healing_Oaks
      @Healing_Oaks 29 днів тому

      What does STBX mean?

    • @Regirl75
      @Regirl75 29 днів тому +1

      @@Healing_Oaks soon to be ex

  • @barishankhonglah4690
    @barishankhonglah4690 3 місяці тому +1

    Bull's eye. thankyou.

  • @isaacweru8084
    @isaacweru8084 5 місяців тому

    They are good points to use when you want to lose them out of our lives. These people are very tiring.

  • @rosepraveen6676
    @rosepraveen6676 12 днів тому

    Listening to your explanation made me acknowledge what is going with my life and tackling it well. Thank you for this video.

  • @aaaaaa8584
    @aaaaaa8584 10 місяців тому +2

    thank you.. your incredible free knowledge sharing. it is make me clear of what happened to me.. and know how to face it.. thank you.

  • @aquagirl9228
    @aquagirl9228 11 місяців тому +2

    You got this, right on target! Love you Jill ❤️🙏

  • @baconknightt
    @baconknightt 5 місяців тому +1

    My ex wife had me in the devalue stage for well over a year shed say:"If you do more, if you work harder, if you didnt make me angry, and yes i had to give her all my attention, all the time. An argument over nothing that lasted for 6 hours, until 2 am. I kept trying to juat apologize, and accept what she said, but it dodnt matter. Id then have to get up at 5 am to go to work. This would happen for days or even weeks. I was mentally exhausted. It didnt matter to her because shed go to bed and sleep until noon. Shed be fresh and rested by the time i got hone. Only for her to start the cycle again.She tell me " you have no reason to be angry at me for cheating/lying because it was all your fault."
    I was left alone in an empty apartment. I called her out for alot of stuff. But apparently it was all my fault.
    She took everything, even the stuff i bought. It was only a few weeks before i got divorce papers, and a week after the R.O. Apparently being an active duty US MARINE meant i could bring home a machine gun??🤔🤔. I didnt see our sons 1st birthday, 2nd birthday, and almost 3rd birthday. By the time id seen him again, i was a stranger to him.
    Everything you listed in this video, brings back so many flashbacks
    She had several boyfriends lined up.
    Gaslighting was constant. Control was i had to call her 5 minutes after getting off work and id have 15 minutes to get home. If it took me 30 minutes there was a fight. If i called her to tell her i was on my way home, but i woke her up, it was a fight. If i made it in 15 minutes getting home, i easnt allowed to go shower, or get something to eat, or go to bed, or watch tv. She was watching tv and on the computer, and i just had to sit there, watching what she was sorta watching. Usually a talk show like Oprah, or the 4 others that followed.
    I felt very isolated, trapped, controlled
    My only saving sanity was taking care of our son.making him happy made me happy. But she took that from me as well 😠

  • @dianalyall3402
    @dianalyall3402 20 днів тому

    I just heard the end.. thankyou for saying that

  • @ging-a-roo2429
    @ging-a-roo2429 27 днів тому

    My husband deployed for a year. I got the discard he didn’t call me for the entire year. Yes we emailed, and the Dayi didn’t email him, he protested. He told me he would not call cause he didn’t want to hear me complain.

  • @rhondacooper2020
    @rhondacooper2020 11 місяців тому +1

    I just found you today! I love what you have to say! It’s just so true ! And massively uplifting. It so impacted my day for healthy good. Just reminded who I am. That has been stolen. Rebuilding.

  • @Carla-pp4ru
    @Carla-pp4ru 12 днів тому

    Such a brilliant video, everything was spot on and I needed to hear it. Thank you.

  • @blackswan1983
    @blackswan1983 3 місяці тому

    I got dumped by my "best friend" of 4 years on mothers day. She knew it was a raw day for me. In retrospect, she planned it to be as painful as possible.

  • @99luftbaloons1
    @99luftbaloons1 7 місяців тому +1

    There's just not enough thumbs up to give this video 😊 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @GloriaGonzalez-zz4wp
    @GloriaGonzalez-zz4wp 11 місяців тому +1

    🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you young lady you're beautiful and I will appreciate so much yes I'm working on myself and been already two years I'm going with these videos and yes very thankful

  • @tybrown7096
    @tybrown7096 3 місяці тому

    I used to be in relationships with men like this for years at a time. Now that I’m divorced, I guess I’m not completely healed but I figure them out quickly. If I say anything about it or ignore them, they “discard “ me but I saw it first. I’ll say hey that’s not okay and then boom they leave.

  • @DemonSlayer_ISTJ
    @DemonSlayer_ISTJ 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you.

  • @fireupyourheartfortruth
    @fireupyourheartfortruth 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much!❤

  • @J2-pe6wz
    @J2-pe6wz Місяць тому +2

    They say every narc ruins 9 lives on average.

    • @Carla-pp4ru
      @Carla-pp4ru 12 днів тому

      That’s the thing, I read that one out of 10 people are narcissistic enough to be called a narcissist (not talking about full blown NPD). And I thought, yeah but that one in 10 is ruining the life of the other 9, so something needs to be done to actually successfully treat narcissists instead of saying “they usually don’t go to treatment”. Both things need to happen: the world needs to learn about narcissism so we can avoiding these people, and there needs to be effective, affordable and readily available treatment for them. Some of them are willing to at least try getting treatment.

  • @navi9418
    @navi9418 2 місяці тому

    All 10 points covered are super…..
    How do you know all this…..
    And yes it is a best ending…..else they could have used us even worse….😳

  • @RichardKincaid-hz7em
    @RichardKincaid-hz7em Місяць тому

    I walked away, then years later my ex got my daughter's against me. They have suddenly changed.

  • @breynolds3321
    @breynolds3321 8 місяців тому +1

    My ex discarded me for a few of those reasons at the same time. But she still texts me sometimes when she’s bored 😑

  • @Leokat334
    @Leokat334 2 місяці тому

    Omg! You’re describing my ex husband & my kids! With my ex I was exhausted and tired of stroking his ego. I had other things to do like kids to raise. As soon as I set boundaries and said no he discarded me and replaced me with 20 something year olds. He always went after young naive newly recovering drug addicts. He did the evil smear campaign and turned my kids against me. I couldn’t tolerate him anymore and I saw right through him. He STILL stays in my life by friending my cousins and aunts on fb along with my sisters! I’m unfriending my family bc we’ve been divorced for 15 years now. He acts like I can’t get over him and he’s the cock of the walk. He infuriates me! I do have reactive abuse after 20 years of his crap tho. That only gave him ammunition! He acts like a pathetic victim to everyone. He’s so mild and a good guy 🙄 whatever whoever wants him can have him. You can’t even be nice to them bc they think you want them. The moment I started dating someone he nutted up and started texting the guy and harassing him. This went on for 4 years. Honestly I’m so exhausted. Now my kids behave like him. I tried to tell a therapist about this when my kids were younger and they acted like I’m crazy. I’ve lost all 3 of my children now. And he is dangerously vengeful, malicious, deceitful and cruel.

  • @Menoweightloss
    @Menoweightloss 8 місяців тому +1

    I ended it at new year and he started going to his ex’s and obviously love bombing her, now fast forward, I moved out, after he coldly told me to pack my shit, he’s now back with his ex, who he left for me without both of us knowing about each other, I feel sorry for her now, as they have children together and he’s going to do the same all over again to her and she’s been his flying monkey the whole way through, I’m so glad I found out and will never look back.

  • @jojowales
    @jojowales Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @twinzzplusonecanada5499
    @twinzzplusonecanada5499 2 місяці тому

    Such a helpful video!!!

  • @linamohamed8824
    @linamohamed8824 13 годин тому

    his tone before the final discard was terrible!! he was very aggressive and turning tables accusing me of being the reason for everything bad!!

  • @linamohamed8824
    @linamohamed8824 13 годин тому

    he did the discard without any obvious reason!! just saying that he doesnt love me or care about me anymore!! and he always threatens with block !! then i fear this then he finally blocked the only door that was open in communication between us which is ( messenger) he use to block and unblock then when i confronted him that he was the one whole stole me he stopped hoovering

  • @Swagman13432
    @Swagman13432 11 місяців тому +2

    Dated someone last year for 2-3 months nd she cheated nd then discarded me blamed everything on me… then came back and treats me worse nd discarded me while going thru intense family shi … its so idk … I feel like shit, I found someone else who is genuine I jus keep thinking of my ex I get guilty it’s like fuck.

  • @zerodeconduite804
    @zerodeconduite804 11 місяців тому +1

    I find so many things 'funny' in these 'relationships.' They monitor and control, yet - when the table is turned their all hell naw. Comes down to accountability. One of the biggest issues I find with these pos's is, they think everyone thinks like them! That is the cruix of everything imo.

  • @linamohamed8824
    @linamohamed8824 13 годин тому

    he left me wondering and lost why he did that and i started doubting that maybe someone made a brain wash to him about me!! do they come back after the discard?

  • @massmediamanager9443
    @massmediamanager9443 Місяць тому +1

    After I asked the question, so what are these mixed signalling from you supposed to mean? He mumbled something weird and a week later discarded me by saying he's not going to reach out.

  • @brendaleverick3655
    @brendaleverick3655 11 місяців тому +4

    I really wish the narcissistic awareness community would do away with the terms "hoover" and "supply".

  • @demetriuslester
    @demetriuslester 11 місяців тому +2

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @linamohamed8824
    @linamohamed8824 13 годин тому

    after ive got a proof from the bank that he was the one who stole my card with his name and his phone number!! he blocked and never back!!

  • @JBthree24
    @JBthree24 3 місяці тому

    They rather be mad at you for reacting to their abuse….

  • @katogojira7223
    @katogojira7223 3 місяці тому

    She couldn't control me 😂😂😂😂

  • @jessmason2112
    @jessmason2112 11 місяців тому +2

    💯✌️😎 5:06